The flaw in this otherwise sinister scheme would be: What kind of effort would it take, on the part of the would-be bad guys, to ensure that the components in question found their way into machines that were of any consequence?
And once discovered, the retribution to the manufacturer would be harsh and most likely final, as in going out of business final.
I am not saying that it would be impossible, only difficult in the extreme. I imagine that this kind of scenario would be so improbable (and since we are here talking about it, not likely to slip under the radar of people who need hardened machines, ergo the NSA chip factory) as to be a huge investment of time for the would be attacker without any real chance of success.
Yes, because that is exactly what we need, all apps should be online, even the OS! That way we can just subscribe to the software we want, and they can just bundle us up with all the stuff we need. And really great ads.
Cause the cloud is the future! And by cloud, of course, I mean the same, stupid, ridiculously imagined world were pc hardware is irrelevant and the almight internets holds everything we need, accessible from everywhere, no waiting, no outages, what could possibly go wrong? All my data is stored on someone elses hardware on a drive farm in Bangledesh? No problem!
The people who imagine this very short-sighted 'utopia' deserve to get the 'All-you-care-use-it plan'! You get unlimited storage, unlimited email, unlimited search, office productivity apps, all for $89.99. Wow!!!
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The 'Cloud' is nothing but storage on the internet, new name, same shit... Stop being stupid.
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WTF???... thats... all....crap. All that stuff you just said. That shit makes ZERO sense.
Rituals from Social Studies? Religion from English class? I dont know if you realize this (apparently not), but you were most likely raised in a cult and schooled by its members, cause I dont think the vast majority of us recieved that brand of education.
Now quit yer bitchin and go prepare for the purification, the time is at hand.
And by 'mask incompetence' I mean 'severly undercut's our ability to sell you stuff. And that makes me scared and confused, and I say shit like this when I'm scared and confused. I hope Joran Van der Sloot asks you out for a drink, Linus Torvalds'.
Again, you insist on projecting your big-picture opinion of "whats best" over the often frustrating work of breaking the hold that groups like the Mehdi army have over swaths of the population in Iraq. That work is largely done now, thanks our commanders actually knowing how to do that and directing the troops to execute that plan.
And I completely reject your assertion that it is a hopeless loop. Iraq is stable, their military and civilian institutions are functional, if not efficient. Your assesment of the situation as a whole is much more pessimistic than that of almost anyone involved, in fact. Within a couple of weeks, the U.S. presence will consist of a smaller reactionary force and a majority of State Deptartment personnel.
I realize that is has become fashionable for talk shows and folks here on the internets to write fool-proof prescriptions for all that ails U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, and of course its our right to do so anytime we please, and entertaining in any case. However, we actually do have really intelligent, technically and tactically proficient people that actually *know* what they are doing, know the risk, know the reward, and make deliberate trade-offs all the time in the pursuit of objectives. We pin a bunch of stars on them and tell them to go win wars for us... they have consistently done that. Given the choice, I'll go with their assessment over yours, no offense.
In any case, I'm over the entire conversation. For those keeping score at home, mark this one down as a victory for dreampod due to my unconditional surrender. I realize that to the victor goes the spoils, and you can have either all of the beer in my fridge or a small, tateful plaque commemorating the event if you would prefer. Also you can have this Dell Axim X30 that I cant seem to get rid of.
You raise some interesting points. However, you dont get to make the rules of engagement... the end. You and your ilk can say whatever you like, it doesnt change a thing for that incident nor will it affect any similar incident going forward. This is not a defensive operation. We dont have to wait to be fired on or be threatened to open fire, we are not the police, they dont have to be guilty of anything overt to be targets. If they were actually innocent civilians carrying AK's and being interviewed by Reuters then they were incredibly stupid civilians who apparently live under a rock somewhere.
And no, Iraq is not a police action, and yes, there are clear indications of U.S. forces conducting operations in urban areas. Despite your impression from CNN, we dont have units idly driving around the country side or through cities with Apache gunship support. And you are simply wrong about men carrying around weapons out of fear for their safety as a normal every-day occurence. There have been strict prohibitions and warnings about carrying weapons through the streets for YEARS now, these men didnt look scared to me, they looked like legitimate targets.
The van was unfortunate, I agree, and I bet the CPG would like to have those rounds back. The men on the street, however, got what they got.
Sure, that one is easy... Insurgents carry AK-47's around at the ready and dont have a IDF, ICDC, or Police uniform on. It's not rocket science... Iraqi civilians are very much aware of the fact that carrying an assualt weapon around town without a clear indication of your official status is foolhardy at best and quite probably a lethal mistake at worst. To brazenly carry one in broad daylight in a city that size with coalition forces operating in the area leaves little room for debate as to who the reporters were interviewing.
Its neat that you can use your 20/20 hindsight to indict people for murder like that. However, you apparently dont have a clue about the conduct of war or the rules of engagement. I watched the video. The pilots of that Apache had none of the information that you and I have now, and they made the right decision. Armed men in an area of U.S. operation: check. Indications that these men were not coalition forces: check. Potential threat to ground forces: check.
The reporters were in the presence of insurgents, not "civilians", and if they did not understand the risks of what they were doing, on a battlefield no less, then they were not cut out to be war correspondants. When the ground forces arrived they rendered aid to the "actual" civilians that were an unfortunate casualty of the incident. As for the men killed, they met the same end that any other combatant would have under the circumstances.
If you are simply "anti-war" or just dont have the stomach for combat then by all means say so, but dont try to sieze the moral high ground. Without the post-production editing and the accompanying story, (which of course the pilots did not have the benefit of) I would have pulled the trigger myself, and I would posit that nearly 100% of soldiers in the U.S. or any other army would have done the same under the conditions.
War is brutal and ugly and people die in a lot of not-very-nice ways. Monday morning quarterbacks screaming "murder" is pointless and hypocritical... If you pay your taxes you support the troops, and the government that puts us in harms way, and I appreciated that during my 2 combat tours.
What turns people "extremist" is poverty, ignorance and religion. Since we are missing the "poverty" ingredient in the recipe here in the U.S., and the religious nuts have their own T.V. shows and just want money in most cases, we get ignorant hypocrites instead (A.K.A. Activists). If the majority of people thought like you do we would not be there to begin with.... there is a lesson in that.
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The flaw in this otherwise sinister scheme would be: What kind of effort would it take, on the part of the would-be bad guys, to ensure that the components in question found their way into machines that were of any consequence? And once discovered, the retribution to the manufacturer would be harsh and most likely final, as in going out of business final. I am not saying that it would be impossible, only difficult in the extreme. I imagine that this kind of scenario would be so improbable (and since we are here talking about it, not likely to slip under the radar of people who need hardened machines, ergo the NSA chip factory) as to be a huge investment of time for the would be attacker without any real chance of success.
Yes, because that is exactly what we need, all apps should be online, even the OS! That way we can just subscribe to the software we want, and they can just bundle us up with all the stuff we need. And really great ads. Cause the cloud is the future! And by cloud, of course, I mean the same, stupid, ridiculously imagined world were pc hardware is irrelevant and the almight internets holds everything we need, accessible from everywhere, no waiting, no outages, what could possibly go wrong? All my data is stored on someone elses hardware on a drive farm in Bangledesh? No problem! The people who imagine this very short-sighted 'utopia' deserve to get the 'All-you-care-use-it plan'! You get unlimited storage, unlimited email, unlimited search, office productivity apps, all for $89.99. Wow!!! -- The 'Cloud' is nothing but storage on the internet, new name, same shit... Stop being stupid.
WTF??? ... thats ... all ....crap. All that stuff you just said. That shit makes ZERO sense.
Rituals from Social Studies? Religion from English class? I dont know if you realize this (apparently not), but you were most likely raised in a cult and schooled by its members, cause I dont think the vast majority of us recieved that brand of education.
Now quit yer bitchin and go prepare for the purification, the time is at hand.
And by 'mask incompetence' I mean 'severly undercut's our ability to sell you stuff. And that makes me scared and confused, and I say shit like this when I'm scared and confused. I hope Joran Van der Sloot asks you out for a drink, Linus Torvalds'.
Again, you insist on projecting your big-picture opinion of "whats best" over the often frustrating work of breaking the hold that groups like the Mehdi army have over swaths of the population in Iraq. That work is largely done now, thanks our commanders actually knowing how to do that and directing the troops to execute that plan. And I completely reject your assertion that it is a hopeless loop. Iraq is stable, their military and civilian institutions are functional, if not efficient. Your assesment of the situation as a whole is much more pessimistic than that of almost anyone involved, in fact. Within a couple of weeks, the U.S. presence will consist of a smaller reactionary force and a majority of State Deptartment personnel. I realize that is has become fashionable for talk shows and folks here on the internets to write fool-proof prescriptions for all that ails U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, and of course its our right to do so anytime we please, and entertaining in any case. However, we actually do have really intelligent, technically and tactically proficient people that actually *know* what they are doing, know the risk, know the reward, and make deliberate trade-offs all the time in the pursuit of objectives. We pin a bunch of stars on them and tell them to go win wars for us... they have consistently done that. Given the choice, I'll go with their assessment over yours, no offense. In any case, I'm over the entire conversation. For those keeping score at home, mark this one down as a victory for dreampod due to my unconditional surrender. I realize that to the victor goes the spoils, and you can have either all of the beer in my fridge or a small, tateful plaque commemorating the event if you would prefer. Also you can have this Dell Axim X30 that I cant seem to get rid of.
You raise some interesting points. However, you dont get to make the rules of engagement... the end. You and your ilk can say whatever you like, it doesnt change a thing for that incident nor will it affect any similar incident going forward. This is not a defensive operation. We dont have to wait to be fired on or be threatened to open fire, we are not the police, they dont have to be guilty of anything overt to be targets. If they were actually innocent civilians carrying AK's and being interviewed by Reuters then they were incredibly stupid civilians who apparently live under a rock somewhere. And no, Iraq is not a police action, and yes, there are clear indications of U.S. forces conducting operations in urban areas. Despite your impression from CNN, we dont have units idly driving around the country side or through cities with Apache gunship support. And you are simply wrong about men carrying around weapons out of fear for their safety as a normal every-day occurence. There have been strict prohibitions and warnings about carrying weapons through the streets for YEARS now, these men didnt look scared to me, they looked like legitimate targets. The van was unfortunate, I agree, and I bet the CPG would like to have those rounds back. The men on the street, however, got what they got.
Sure, that one is easy... Insurgents carry AK-47's around at the ready and dont have a IDF, ICDC, or Police uniform on. It's not rocket science... Iraqi civilians are very much aware of the fact that carrying an assualt weapon around town without a clear indication of your official status is foolhardy at best and quite probably a lethal mistake at worst. To brazenly carry one in broad daylight in a city that size with coalition forces operating in the area leaves little room for debate as to who the reporters were interviewing.
Its neat that you can use your 20/20 hindsight to indict people for murder like that. However, you apparently dont have a clue about the conduct of war or the rules of engagement. I watched the video. The pilots of that Apache had none of the information that you and I have now, and they made the right decision. Armed men in an area of U.S. operation: check. Indications that these men were not coalition forces: check. Potential threat to ground forces: check.
The reporters were in the presence of insurgents, not "civilians", and if they did not understand the risks of what they were doing, on a battlefield no less, then they were not cut out to be war correspondants. When the ground forces arrived they rendered aid to the "actual" civilians that were an unfortunate casualty of the incident. As for the men killed, they met the same end that any other combatant would have under the circumstances.
If you are simply "anti-war" or just dont have the stomach for combat then by all means say so, but dont try to sieze the moral high ground. Without the post-production editing and the accompanying story, (which of course the pilots did not have the benefit of) I would have pulled the trigger myself, and I would posit that nearly 100% of soldiers in the U.S. or any other army would have done the same under the conditions.
War is brutal and ugly and people die in a lot of not-very-nice ways. Monday morning quarterbacks screaming "murder" is pointless and hypocritical... If you pay your taxes you support the troops, and the government that puts us in harms way, and I appreciated that during my 2 combat tours.
What turns people "extremist" is poverty, ignorance and religion. Since we are missing the "poverty" ingredient in the recipe here in the U.S., and the religious nuts have their own T.V. shows and just want money in most cases, we get ignorant hypocrites instead (A.K.A. Activists). If the majority of people thought like you do we would not be there to begin with.... there is a lesson in that.