Hi Tom, I am no where near this project and thus am giving a very unqualified comment. I think tone is very important to win the hearts and minds of the community. As you know by now, things are very flamable online (strange law of physics).
Even the mention of commercially laced ideas.. i know i know, we need money to even answer a phone call because if no one pays the phone bills, the phone gets cut off.
But there is so much fear among community of a MYSQL style sell off where licensing can be dualised overnight and a sudden feeling of losing one's own home. This has happened at Mambo/Joomla and Compiere/ADempiere.
In the end the community will gravitate and return as a bigger commercial threat.
many regards red1 Leader of The ADempiere Bazaar (ADempiere Project is part of it but i quit as the BDFL due to some sudden combustion:) )
We at ADempiere FOSS project can relate to many of the comments in this story as we have our very own wars all the time particularly this present fiery one in our forum here.
3 off us due to disagreement and disgust at each other, resigned this week our benevolent positions but still work on the sidelines. I am not sure to cry or to laugh. I trust Eric Raymond's Cathedral and The Bazaar story.
Somehow when you adopt what Linus Torvalds did for Linux, you got a revolution, but you have to survive the egos especially your own. GNU was going ok, but ok is not enough to take on the world giants. Linus finished off the game via his attitude of giving and not caring for kudos back.
From our community FOSS project in ADempiere which is heavy on java and ERP subject matter, all these stories seems to run true even so in our mountainous project. Particularly this one about 'trade secrets' within the codes.
I not only believe that there are none, but much business secrets are actually data or config data that is not in source code but sitting in the Database. Guess it must be an invisible hand of Karma ensuring FOSS lives!
red1
ADempiere ERP
Fixed it again. Close_Source==Money, Open_Source!=Money
My 2 cents here is that community is risky no doubt but when they got it right they can swallow SAP.
red1
The ADempiere Project
Hi Tom,
I am no where near this project and thus am giving a very unqualified comment. I think tone is very important to win the hearts and minds of the community. As you know by now, things are very flamable online (strange law of physics).
Even the mention of commercially laced ideas.. i know i know, we need money to even answer a phone call because if no one pays the phone bills, the phone gets cut off.
But there is so much fear among community of a MYSQL style sell off where licensing can be dualised overnight and a sudden feeling of losing one's own home. This has happened at Mambo/Joomla and Compiere/ADempiere.
In the end the community will gravitate and return as a bigger commercial threat.
many regards :) )
red1
Leader of The ADempiere Bazaar
(ADempiere Project is part of it but i quit as the BDFL due to some sudden combustion
We at ADempiere FOSS project can relate to many of the comments in this story as we have our very own wars all the time particularly this present fiery one in our forum here.
3 off us due to disagreement and disgust at each other, resigned this week our benevolent positions but still work on the sidelines. I am not sure to cry or to laugh. I trust Eric Raymond's Cathedral and The Bazaar story.
Somehow when you adopt what Linus Torvalds did for Linux, you got a revolution, but you have to survive the egos especially your own. GNU was going ok, but ok is not enough to take on the world giants. Linus finished off the game via his attitude of giving and not caring for kudos back.
red1
ADempiere Bazaar
(evangelist/former benevolent dictator - September 2006 - Today)
From our community FOSS project in ADempiere which is heavy on java and ERP subject matter, all these stories seems to run true even so in our mountainous project. Particularly this one about 'trade secrets' within the codes. I not only believe that there are none, but much business secrets are actually data or config data that is not in source code but sitting in the Database. Guess it must be an invisible hand of Karma ensuring FOSS lives! red1 ADempiere ERP
Fixed it again. Close_Source==Money, Open_Source!=Money My 2 cents here is that community is risky no doubt but when they got it right they can swallow SAP. red1 The ADempiere Project
Shocked that i am called an Anon Coward, l created an account and sign here :>
red1