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  1. Ignore the original post, this one's formatted on Human Genome Confirms Evolution · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure who wrote this, I didn't, but it has some interesting ideas...

    BIG BANGTHEORY AND EVOLUTION

    I like science. Biology and botany have been my favorite. My wife likes science, too. Her favorites are physics, microbiology, and organic chemistry. Very smart girl and rather athletic, too. Anyway, some people think the theory of evolution and the big bang theory are science. They aren't. They are religions. Really. The theory of evolution and the big bang theory are simply mixed in with science to make it look scientific. Science is knowledge though observation. Religion is something believed in. Either you know something, or you believe something. These are two different things people. Evolutionists believe that the universe came from a big bang from a dot no bigger that a period in a textbook billions of years ago. Were they there when it happened to record what they observed? No, they have to believe in it. Here are some other questions. Where did that dot come from? That dot was spinning when it exploded. Energy is required to make something move. Where did the energy come from to make the dot spin? Where did the laws come from that govern the universe (law of gravity, law of thermodynamics, etc.) Don't say man. The laws have always been around. Man simply named what was already present in order to identify them. Believing in God may be religious, but so is evolution. Don't call God religion, and evolution science. They are both religions. Evolutionists have to believe in (not know) the big bang theory to support their theory. And don't tell me that there may have been an outside force that may have manipulated the dot or anything similar to that matter. There's no evidence for that either, and if you believe in it, it's still religion. It's risky to base a theory on a theory. It's like telling a lie to cover a lie. When atheist don't have all the answers, they have to make up something to justify what they are trying to make up without anything to back up what they just made up. Also, don't tell me we don't have the equipment and space to simulate the big bang theory in the lab. Some say, "The big bang theory occurred even though we don't have empirical evidence to support it." That's what they are saying in common terms after you take away all of the fancy words. It doesn't exists, and it will never exist because real science, when applied correctly, has disproven the big bang theory with laws of physics like the law of thermodynamics, the inverse square law, the law of angular momentum, the law of conservation of energy, and so forth. Someone out there is going to say, "According to the law of conservation of energy, matter cannot be created nor destroyed. So how can God created the universe?" Don't give me that garbage either. The law and the other laws govern the universe. God is outside of the universe, He is above the laws he created so it doesn't apply to Him, and He is an infinite being.

    "The big bang is presumed to have produced just hydrogen and helium, ONLY 2 of the 92 elements of the earth's crust." -Dr. Robert V. Gentry, Research Physicist

    Let's define what evolution really is. There are actually two types of evolution: macroevolution and microevolution. Microevolution is scientific, observable, and scriptural. Examples are dogs producing a variety of dogs, cows produce a variety of cows, and roses produce a variety of roses. We as humans have actually seen this happen. Macroevolution is religious, assumed, and unscriptural. Examples are apes producing humans, cucumbers producing sheep, and hamsters producing corn. NO ONE has ever seen this occur. The evolutionists believe in macroevolution and think that microevolution gives reason to believe in macroevolution when the two are unrelated. Evolutionists believe that all life come for a common ancestor...a ROCK. And don't tell me man came from "primates" or "ape-like" animals. Let's talk about some of these so-called "ape-like" animals.

    Caveman - Did you know that there are people still living in caves today? Their lifestyles may be "primitive" compared to ours, but they are still just as human.
    Neanderthal Man - The back of the Neanderthal man is halfway between the back of an ape and the back of a human. That proves the Neanderthal man is part of the evolutionary process turning into a man. NO, IT DOESN'T! When the bones of the " Neanderthal man" was under close examination, it was discovered that the spine was bent because of arthritis. It wasn't an ape coming up to be a human. It was a man going down because of arthritis. Those people exist today.
    Cro-Magnon Man - In a nutshell, this prehistoric man is characterized by big bones. And that proves it was a part of evolution? I don't think so. Well, knowing some of the football players we have today, it may be true. (major sarcasm)
    Piltdown Man - Two scientists took the top part of a human skull, the bottom jaw of an ape's skull, filed the ape's teeth down to fit the human skull, treated the whole thing with acid to make it look old, and said is was mankind's ancestor. Yes, people. it was proven a fake soon after. Over 500 people write their dissertation on the Piltdown man. I wonder how did they feel after it was discovered that it was a fake.
    Nebraska Man - A tooth was found in Nebraska. Out of this one tooth, an evolutionist was able to construct a prehistoric man. Then later, the same evolutionist was able to construct the man's wife. This guy has got to be good. It was later discovered that the tooth actually came from a pig. That's your real Nebraska man for ya.

    Read "Bone of Contention" by Sylvia Baker and "Bones of Contention" by Marvin L. Lubenow for more scientific information on this.

    How would you like to make $10,000? No money making scheme. This is serious. If anyone can provide empirical evidence of evolution, go to www.drdino.com. If you can present imperical evidence to Dr. Kent E. Hovind, he will personally pay you $10,000. It's even on his website. Go check it out.

    "I am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it's applied, will be one of the great jokes of the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so flimsy and dubious an hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has." -Malcolm Muggeridge, journalist and philosopher, Pascal Lectures, University of Waterloo, Ontario Canada.

    "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact." -Dr. T. N. Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission, USA

    EVIDENCE FROM SPACE

    Because of the existence of short-lived comets, the universe cannot be billions of years old. Otherwise there will be no comets today. Someone named Oort said that maybe the comets come from a cloud in space. He named the cloud the "Oort Cloud." Oort theorized this without any evidence. No one has seen this cloud so we don't know it exists. That's what atheists do. When something from science disproves their theory and supports something else like the Bible, they have to make up another theory to try to "prove" their theory.

    It's a scientific fact that all mass has gravity. We have tides on the earth because of the moon's gravity on the earth. It's also a scientific fact that the moon is slowly drifting from the earth a couple of inches every year. According to the THEORY of evolution, the moon is billions of years old. There's a law called the "Inverse Square Law." It means that then you half the distance between two objects, you quadruple the attraction of the gravitational pull. IF the moon was billions of years old, the distance between the moon and the earth would have caused tides so strong it would have drowned all life on the earth everyday, TWICE.

    The moon contains considerable quantities of U-236 and Th-230. Both are short-lived isotopes that would have been long gone if the moon were billions of years old.

    Jupiter and Saturn are cooling off rapidly. They are losing heat twice as fast as they are gaining heat from the Sun. If they are billions of years old, they would have been cooled off a long time ago.

    EVIDENCE FROM EARTH

    The earth has a magnetic field around it to help filter harmful rays from the Sun. We are losing this magnetic field little by little. If the earth was billions of years old, the magnetic field would have been so strong it would have created so much heat life would not be possible on the earth. Some say that the field might have a reversal effect where it gets stronger and weaker, stronger and weaker. This is only a guess. We know that it is getting weaker, and that's all we know. When an atheist talks about the reversal effect, it's just another way to make up a theory based on another theory that cannot be supported.

    It's a fact that there is oil beneath the surface of the earth that is under pressure. That's why we have oil wells today. All scientist do agree that dead plants and animals turned into the oil after being squashed over a period of time. They also agree that the pressure of the oil can only last for about 10,000 years until it slowly seeps through the rock layer above it. If the earth is billions of years old, why hasn't all of the pressure been relieved yet? Isn't it possible that the plants, the animals, and the people who drowned in the flood got buried beneath a lot mud, got squashed, and turned into oil? Hmm... Interesting. Maybe that Flood did happened. More on that later.

    It's a scientific fact that the earth's rotation is almost 1,000 mph at the equator. It's also a scientific fact that the earth's rotation is slowing down 1/1,000 of a second everyday. If the earth were billions of years old according to the THEORY of evolution, the speed of the rotation of the earth would have cause winds to be as great as 5,000 mph due to the Corilolis effect. Of course the life on this planet wasn't effected. They were thrown off this earth because of the centrifugal forces. (sarcasm) And don't tell me a space debris or a comet hit the earth to screw up the speed of the rotation. It just another was for the atheists to make up another theory to try to "prove" their theory. Actually, a comet may have hit the earth about 4,400 years ago. More on that later.

    Stalactites do not prove that the earth is millions of years old. If you toured on of these caverns, the tour giver will say, "Don't touch the formations. It took millions of years to form." Oh, really? Evolutionists believe that it takes 1,000 years to form 1" of stalactite. The Lincoln Memorial was built in 1922. There are stalactites under it. There an old WWII fort in Florida. There are 10 inch stalactites growing there, too.

    Did you know that ice accumulates on the north and south poles? That accumulation is indicating that it is less that 5,000 years old. Didn't the Flood occurred like 4,400 years ago? More on that later.

    EVIDENCE FROM BIOLOGY

    According to the THEORY of evolution, man has been on this earth for 3 million years. The Earth's population is currently approaching 6,000,000,000. If we were to take the event of the Flood that occurred 4,400 years ago in which Noah and his family survived, we would be looking at eight people: Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their sons' wives (yes, I'm referring to the event of Noah's ark.) Using the
    genealogy in the Bible from the flood, the average rate of the growth of the population of this planet, and simple mathematics, you will end up with around about 5,000,000,000 to 6,000,000,000, about the current population of earth. IF man existed 3 millions years ago, you'd have a serious problem. We'd have 150,000 people per square inch on this earth. Some of you may say "Well, maybe some catastrophe happened that eliminated most of the population in the past." Your right. It's the Flood that occurred 4,400 years ago in which Noah and his family survived. And don't tell me that Noah and his family was simply a part of evolution who survived today. If that were the case, then how did Noah know when to build an ark to save his family from the Flood?

    The oldest tree on this planet is 4,300. Scientific fact. The largest and oldest coral reef is the Great Barrier Reef. It was damaged during WWII. The environmentalist later tried protecting it and watched it grow for the next twenty years. According to the data they gathered, the Great Barrier Reef is less than 4,100 years old. Scientific fact. According to the THEORY of evolution the earth is 4.5 billion years old. According to the Bible, the Flood destroyed the earth 4,400 years ago. Why is it that there isn't a tree or coral reef that's over 4,400 years old?

    The genetic load in man is increasing. Genetics have cataloged nearly 1,300 genetic disorders in the human race. If evolution is true, aren't we suppose to be getting better? It is certainly reasonable to believe that the human race was created perfect from the hands of the Creator, but has been going downhill due to our disobedience to the laws He established.

    Read "Scientific Creationism" by Henry Morris, "In the Beginning" by Walt Brown, and "It's a Young World After All" by Paul Ackerman for more scientific information on this.

    EVENTS FROM THE BIBLE

    If fire didn't rain on Sodom and Gomorrah, God does not exist.
    If the parting of the Red Sea didn't happen, God does not exist.
    If the Noah never built the ark to escape the flood waters with his family, God does not exist.
    Remember, God caused these events to occur. So if there is no evidence to these events, God doesn't exist.

    Sodom and Gomorrah - Sodom and Gomorrah has been found. From a distance, this city looks like a burnt city. On closer inspection, some of the bricks were complete ash. That's how hot the fire got. But did it really rain fire? Sulfur balls the size of golf ball were found all over the area. The sulfur balls were at least 99% percent pure sulfur. And the location of this burnt city fits the location of Sodom and Gomorrah.
    Parting of the Red Sea - For years, people have been looking for where the parting took place in the Gulf of Suez and couldn't find it. It's because they were looking in the wrong place. The parting took place in the Gulf of Akaba, and there's evidence. There are two pillars on both sides of the gulf where the parting took place inscribed by King Solomon commemorating the crossing of the Red Sea. Along that path underwater are skeletons of horses and humans. There are also remains of chariots and chariot wheels laced with gold detached from the chariots. The Bible did say that God pulled the wheels from the chariots to help prevent the Egyptians from following Moses and the Israelites. And the style of the wheels fit the style of the Egyptian empire of that time. Also, there are two rows of stone found at the bottom of the gulf as if waters divided themselves pushing the rock to
    both sides.
    Noah's Ark - It has been believed to be found. The site is located 17 miles from Mt. Ararat. The Bible did say that the ark rested in the mountains of Mt. Ararat. What was found was believed to be the decayed remains of the ark buried under the soil in the shape of the ark as if it had collapsed. Supporting this believe were huge deposits of iron rivets that once held the ark together along with 4 to 5 ft size anchor stones that helped kept the ark stabilized. There's a tourist center now where you can visit this site. Something else. The Turkish government claims to have found the grave of Noah. On the grave is a picture of a boat and eight people (Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their sons' wives.)

    Ron Wyatt,(ph. (615) 331-6263) researched and discovered some of this as an archeologist. Check out his website at www.anchorstone.com.

    THE FLOOD

    Yes, the flood did occur. How it occurred, we aren't for sure, but there are scientific evidence to support this theory that hasn't been disproven..

    Facts to consider:
    Saturn's rings are made of ice.
    The Moon has craters mainly concentrated on one side. If the Moon were billions of years old, it would make more sense that by chance the craters would be evenly distributed.
    The earth is tilted at 23.5 degrees which gives us the seasons. It's scientifically calculated that if the earth was not at a tilt, it would be spring all year long all over the earth, and we would have 12 hour days and twelve hours night. Remember this. Very important.
    Earth has a magnetic field around it.
    A spinning top will wobble if you threw some mud on it and will eventually stabilize itself rotating at a different angle.
    Coal, dinosaur fossils, and well preserved palm tree leaves were found under the ice on the Antarctica continent.
    Let's keep all of these facts in mind.

    We don't know the full purpose to Stonehenge, but we do know that it was used to measure the angle of the earth on the Summer Solstice (June 20, sometimes 21) based on the Summer Solstice shadow cast on Stonehenge by the Sun. An Australian astronomer, George Godwell, gathered all of the past records and information he can find on what the angle of the earth was during past Summer Solstices. After graphing all of his findings, he discovered that the earth started to wobble at about 4,350 years ago until it finally stabilized. It was also calculated that the earth was not on a tilt right before it started to wobble. Did something hit the earth back then to cause it to be at an angle? The Bible did teach that the Flood occurred at about 4,400 years ago. Remember this.

    In the northern parts of Russia like the Siberian Islands contain well preserved animals like the woolly mammoths, wolves, camels, and other animals in ice. These animals were so well preserved, the food in their stomachs did not have a chance to digest. The skin of the woolly mammoths were studied, and it was discovered that they were absent of sebaceous glands. These glands produce an oily coating on the fur of cold climate animals to make the fur waterproof. On closer inspection, the blood of the woolly mammoths had ice crystals indicating that it had to be frozen in less than 5 hours. The only way you can freeze a woolly mammoth in less than 5 hours is for it to be exposed in -300 degree Fahrenheit temperatures. The only thing known to man that is -300 degree Fahrenheit that is not of this earth are ice comets. Remember this.

    With everything said so far, it's highly plausible to say that a comet hit the earth causing this. A comet flying through space would explain the ice rings around Saturn and why the moon has craters mostly on one side if the comet flew by at this time. The ice melted and drifted off or vaporized off the surface of the moon. That's probably why there isn't any trace of what was once there. A comet is like a snowball. The harder the snowball is propelled, the more it will break apart. Well, the same can be applied to the comet. There's a law I mentioned earlier called the Inverse Square Law which means that then you half the distance between two objects, you quadruple the attraction of the gravitational pull. As the comet approached the earth, the closer it got the faster it went causing the comet to break up and get caught in the earth's magnetic field. It's a fact ice can be highly magnetized. It probably happened from the friction when it entered the earth's atmosphere. It had to be a lot of ice to not completely vaporize, and it was a lot of ice. In fact as the ice was magnetized to the top and the bottom of the earth, the ice on the top of the earth reached as far south as what is now Illinois. Sound familiar? Yes, people. This was when the "Ice Age" occurred freezing the mammoths. And when the ice hit, cold air and warm air produce rain. Also most of the plants that were on the bottom of the earth got squishes which formed into coal. Some didn't and was preserved and later discovered like the palm leaves. Now, remember it was calculated that the earth was not at a tilt at about 4,350 giving the planet springtime weather all year long. If a comet were to hit the earth, causing it to wobble, tilting the earth, which gives us the seasons we have today it fits what the Bible says. The Flood happened about 4,400 years ago. I know the dates are off by 50 years, but these are approximations. The Bible teaches us the first winter did not occur until after the flood.

    Also, the Bible teaches that there is water beneath the surface of the earth's crust. People have water wells and there are hot springs underneath the crust of the earth. It also says that "the springs of the great deep burst forth." How did this happen? It only makes sense that when the ice applied pressure to both sides on the earth, it cracked the crust causing the hot water beneath to earth causing more water to be release to contribute to the Flood. Now, these cracks are known today as the faults and the ridges we find on the earth today. When the hot water spewed from the cracks, it killed every living thing nearby in the water. Now, a diatom is a beautiful crystal like creature found in the water that cannot be seen without a microscope. When diatoms die, they fall on top on each other to accumulate to create diatomaceous earth. Diatomaceous earth is use today in products like washing detergent and cat liter. It's a fact that it takes 1,000 years to make a 1" layer of diatomaceous earth. Maybe the Flood didn't happen. Maybe the earth is billions of years old. No, it isn't. When the springs of the great deep busted forth, the ht water killed countless of diatoms along with billions of other fish who's fossils were found in the diatomaceous earth. Lompoc, CA, is located exactly on the san Andreas Fault. In that town, there a company called Workers of the Dicalcite: Division of Grefco Corporation in which they specialize in diatomaceous earth. In 1976 as they were digging in the diatomaceous earth, they came across a fossilized skeleton of a baleen whale in the diatomaceous earth. It was 80 feet long standing on end to end. If diatomaceous earth form at 1" every 1,000 years, how did the baleen whale remained there for almost 10, 000? It didn't. It was destroyed with the diatoms and other fish from the hot water busting from the earth during the flood.

    Grand Canyon is proof for the flood, too. Evolutionists believe that the Grand Canyon was carved out by a river billions of years ago. Did you know that the top of the canyon (6000 ft) is higher than the bottom? (1800 ft) Did you also know that the river in Grand Canyon is at the bottom of the canyon? Did you realize that the entrance where the river starts (2800 ft) is lower than the highest point of the Grand Canyon? That means that river had to flow uphill for billions of years to form the groove that forms Grand Canyon. I don't think so. It's true that the earth has many layers. That doesn't mean it's billions of years old. Evolutionists believe that each layer was created in a year. If that is true, why is it that there are no erosions marks between each layer? All of the layers are stacked like pancakes. If you took a jar of water, filled it with different types of soil, shook the jar up, and set the jar on a flat surface, the soil in the jar will separate itself in layers. Moving water automatically separates dirt and soil by their density. The heavier ones go first and then the lighter ones. All that water from the flood stirred up the surface of the earth, and as the dirt settled, it settled in layer.

    We all have heard of Mount St. Helen. You know, the volcano in California. This volcano erupted in 1980 if I remember correctly. The ash and mud that flowed from this volcano formed a dam that blocked a river running by it. After the eruption stopped, there was so much pressure from the river that it finally broke the dam. All of the water rushed out carving out a canyon that was 150 deep and I forget how long in 15 min. It looked very similar Grand Canyon. This is evidence to say that Grand Canyon was carved out of the flood waters that rushed off the land when it was soft mud.

    Check out Part 6, of Dr. Kent Hovind's Creation seminar for more info which can be found at www.drdino.com.

    Extra info on the flood.top 3,000 feet of Mt. Everest (from 26,000-29,000 feet) is made up of sedimentary rock packed with seashells and other ocean-dwelling animals.
    Sedimentary rock is found ALL over the world. Sedimentary rock is formed UNDERWATER.
    There is enough water in the oceans right now to cover the earth 8,000 feet deep if the surface of the earth were smooth.
    Large mountains, as we have them today, DID NOT EXIST UNTIL AFTER the flood when "the mountains arose and the valleys sank down." Psalms 104:5-9, Genesis 8:3-8
    Bent rock layers, fossil graveyards, and poly-strata fossils are best explained by a Flood
    2 Peter 3:3-8 says that scoffer are "willingly ignorant" of the Flood. "Willingly ignorant" means, "dumb on purpose."

    ABOUT GOD AND AVOIDING WORLDLY DECEPTION

    The question, "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift" is not a valid a question. Here's why. A rock is a finite object. It has bounds and limits. God is an infinite being. He has no bounds and limits. How can you associate finite attributes to an infinite being? You can't. We can only associate certain descriptive words to an infinite being in describing ONLY what we can understand about Him. Examples are "He is awesome" or "He is just," but He is also INFINITELY awesome and just. Asking the question "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift" is implying that God has finite attributes when he doesn't. It's like trying to match two things that don't go together. Therefore, this question is not valid to disprove the existence of God. I have heard the question many times, and it's used to brainwash people into believing there isn't a God. When it is defined that God is infinite and a rock is finite, it becomes clear that the question is bogus. That question is like saying, "Did you beat your wife recently?" If I said "yes," that means I have. If I said "no," it implies I did in the past. The question should be, "Have you ever beaten your wife?" and then, "Did you beat her recently?" Since the answer is "no," it makes the second part moot. The same applies to the question, "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift?" It should ask, "Is God a finite or infinite being?" and then, "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift?" Since the answer is "INFINITE," it makes the second part moot. DON'T get trapped in this. And don't give me that stuff that "if God is knowing of all things to come, it limits His choices on what He can do because he has to follow the events to come." Whoever said He was limited to His choices? It was His choice for the events to transpire the way they are in the first place. He's not following time, time is following Him. Besides, He is outside of time so time doesn't apply to Him anyway. For God, everything that has happened, everything that's going on now, and everything that will happen has already happened to God and everything else in His Creation. Don't let people get you with this either.

    Someone here said that the Bible claims to be the "Ultimate Truth." But what is it the ultimate truth of? Building a PC? Fixing a Ford vehicle? Playing a video game? The Bible is not the ultimate truth, but it is the TRUTH. For someone to say that the Bible is the "ultimate truth" is DECEIVING which will lead to question giving doubt about the Bible. GOD is the ULTIMATE TRUTH.

    Some of you don't believe there is a God because you do not know Him. You may know of Him, but you don't know Him. God is a stranger to you. How can you understand a stranger walking down the sidewalk until you have met him? Even after becoming friends you still wouldn't understand everything about him. The more you know a person, the more you will understand him. The more you know God, the more you will understand Him. The only way to know God is through Christ. And until you know Him, your criticisms of God will NOT hold up.

    I may not have all of the answers about God, but not having all the answers DOES NOT disprove He exists. We don't have all the answers about the human brain, and we know it exists. The answers I do have are facts that have been proven. I may have a few theories, but they are backed up by evidence through science that HAS NOT BEEN DISPROVEN. If you want more answers than the ones I have given, go check out your local library or here on the internet. I've already named a few books and websites.

    This is the truth. It has nothing to do with science. There is nothing scientific that disproves the Bible since God created the sciences. There are theories created by man that contradicts the Bible, but they are just theories. They haven't been proven. It all has to do with lifestyles. The Bible teaches that there will be scoffers in the land. There will be people who scoff at the Bible because it cramps their lifestyles. That's why
    they deny the existence of God. I'm not mad at the scoffers. I'm mad at Satan. Satan have been deceive mankind starting with Eve. A lot of you people do not believe in God is because Satan has deceived you. When Christ was crucified on the cross, He said, "Father forgive these people for they do not know what they are doing." The same thing is happening to those who do not believe in Him. You do not know what you are doing because you have been deceived.

  2. Something interesting I read before... on Human Genome Confirms Evolution · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure who wrote this, I didn't, but it has some interesting ideas... BIG BANG THEORY AND EVOLUTION I like science. Biology and botany have been my favorite. My wife likes science, too. Her favorites are physics, microbiology, and organic chemistry. Very smart girl and rather athletic, too. Anyway, some people think the theory of evolution and the big bang theory are science. They aren't. They are religions. Really. The theory of evolution and the big bang theory are simply mixed in with science to make it look scientific. Science is knowledge though observation. Religion is something believed in. Either you know something, or you believe something. These are two different things people. Evolutionists believe that the universe came from a big bang from a dot no bigger that a period in a textbook billions of years ago. Were they there when it happened to record what they observed? No, they have to believe in it. Here are some other questions. Where did that dot come from? That dot was spinning when it exploded. Energy is required to make something move. Where did the energy come from to make the dot spin? Where did the laws come from that govern the universe (law of gravity, law of thermodynamics, etc.) Don't say man. The laws have always been around. Man simply named what was already present in order to identify them. Believing in God may be religious, but so is evolution. Don't call God religion, and evolution science. They are both religions. Evolutionists have to believe in (not know) the big bang theory to support their theory. And don't tell me that there may have been an outside force that may have manipulated the dot or anything similar to that matter. There's no evidence for that either, and if you believe in it, it's still religion. It's risky to base a theory on a theory. It's like telling a lie to cover a lie. When atheist don't have all the answers, they have to make up something to justify what they are trying to make up without anything to back up what they just made up. Also, don't tell me we don't have the equipment and space to simulate the big bang theory in the lab. Some say, "The big bang theory occurred even though we don't have empirical evidence to support it." That's what they are saying in common terms after you take away all of the fancy words. It doesn't exists, and it will never exist because real science, when applied correctly, has disproven the big bang theory with laws of physics like the law of thermodynamics, the inverse square law, the law of angular momentum, the law of conservation of energy, and so forth. Someone out there is going to say, "According to the law of conservation of energy, matter cannot be created nor destroyed. So how can God created the universe?" Don't give me that garbage either. The law and the other laws govern the universe. God is outside of the universe, He is above the laws he created so it doesn't apply to Him, and He is an infinite being. "The big bang is presumed to have produced just hydrogen and helium, ONLY 2 of the 92 elements of the earth's crust." -Dr. Robert V. Gentry, Research Physicist Let's define what evolution really is. There are actually two types of evolution: macroevolution and microevolution. Microevolution is scientific, observable, and scriptural. Examples are dogs producing a variety of dogs, cows produce a variety of cows, and roses produce a variety of roses. We as humans have actually seen this happen. Macroevolution is religious, assumed, and unscriptural. Examples are apes producing humans, cucumbers producing sheep, and hamsters producing corn. NO ONE has ever seen this occur. The evolutionists believe in macroevolution and think that microevolution gives reason to believe in macroevolution when the two are unrelated. Evolutionists believe that all life come for a common ancestor...a ROCK. And don't tell me man came from "primates" or "ape-like" animals. Let's talk about some of these so-called "ape-like" animals. Caveman - Did you know that there are people still living in caves today? Their lifestyles may be "primitive" compared to ours, but they are still just as human. Neanderthal Man - The back of the Neanderthal man is halfway between the back of an ape and the back of a human. That proves the Neanderthal man is part of the evolutionary process turning into a man. NO, IT DOESN'T! When the bones of the " Neanderthal man" was under close examination, it was discovered that the spine was bent because of arthritis. It wasn't an ape coming up to be a human. It was a man going down because of arthritis. Those people exist today. Cro-Magnon Man - In a nutshell, this prehistoric man is characterized by big bones. And that proves it was a part of evolution? I don't think so. Well, knowing some of the football players we have today, it may be true. (major sarcasm) Piltdown Man - Two scientists took the top part of a human skull, the bottom jaw of an ape's skull, filed the ape's teeth down to fit the human skull, treated the whole thing with acid to make it look old, and said is was mankind's ancestor. Yes, people. it was proven a fake soon after. Over 500 people write their dissertation on the Piltdown man. I wonder how did they feel after it was discovered that it was a fake. Nebraska Man - A tooth was found in Nebraska. Out of this one tooth, an evolutionist was able to construct a prehistoric man. Then later, the same evolutionist was able to construct the man's wife. This guy has got to be good. It was later discovered that the tooth actually came from a pig. That's your real Nebraska man for ya. Read "Bone of Contention" by Sylvia Baker and "Bones of Contention" by Marvin L. Lubenow for more scientific information on this. How would you like to make $10,000? No money making scheme. This is serious. If anyone can provide empirical evidence of evolution, go to www.drdino.com. If you can present imperical evidence to Dr. Kent E. Hovind, he will personally pay you $10,000. It's even on his website. Go check it out. "I am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it's applied, will be one of the great jokes of the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so flimsy and dubious an hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has." -Malcolm Muggeridge, journalist and philosopher, Pascal Lectures, University of Waterloo, Ontario Canada. "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact." -Dr. T. N. Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission, USA EVIDENCE FROM SPACE Because of the existence of short-lived comets, the universe cannot be billions of years old. Otherwise there will be no comets today. Someone named Oort said that maybe the comets come from a cloud in space. He named the cloud the "Oort Cloud." Oort theorized this without any evidence. No one has seen this cloud so we don't know it exists. That's what atheists do. When something from science disproves their theory and supports something else like the Bible, they have to make up another theory to try to "prove" their theory. It's a scientific fact that all mass has gravity. We have tides on the earth because of the moon's gravity on the earth. It's also a scientific fact that the moon is slowly drifting from the earth a couple of inches every year. According to the THEORY of evolution, the moon is billions of years old. There's a law called the "Inverse Square Law." It means that then you half the distance between two objects, you quadruple the attraction of the gravitational pull. IF the moon was billions of years old, the distance between the moon and the earth would have caused tides so strong it would have drowned all life on the earth everyday, TWICE. The moon contains considerable quantities of U-236 and Th-230. Both are short-lived isotopes that would have been long gone if the moon were billions of years old. Jupiter and Saturn are cooling off rapidly. They are losing heat twice as fast as they are gaining heat from the Sun. If they are billions of years old, they would have been cooled off a long time ago. EVIDENCE FROM EARTH The earth has a magnetic field around it to help filter harmful rays from the Sun. We are losing this magnetic field little by little. If the earth was billions of years old, the magnetic field would have been so strong it would have created so much heat life would not be possible on the earth. Some say that the field might have a reversal effect where it gets stronger and weaker, stronger and weaker. This is only a guess. We know that it is getting weaker, and that's all we know. When an atheist talks about the reversal effect, it's just another way to make up a theory based on another theory that cannot be supported. It's a fact that there is oil beneath the surface of the earth that is under pressure. That's why we have oil wells today. All scientist do agree that dead plants and animals turned into the oil after being squashed over a period of time. They also agree that the pressure of the oil can only last for about 10,000 years until it slowly seeps through the rock layer above it. If the earth is billions of years old, why hasn't all of the pressure been relieved yet? Isn't it possible that the plants, the animals, and the people who drowned in the flood got buried beneath a lot mud, got squashed, and turned into oil? Hmm... Interesting. Maybe that Flood did happened. More on that later. It's a scientific fact that the earth's rotation is almost 1,000 mph at the equator. It's also a scientific fact that the earth's rotation is slowing down 1/1,000 of a second everyday. If the earth were billions of years old according to the THEORY of evolution, the speed of the rotation of the earth would have cause winds to be as great as 5,000 mph due to the Corilolis effect. Of course the life on this planet wasn't effected. They were thrown off this earth because of the centrifugal forces. (sarcasm) And don't tell me a space debris or a comet hit the earth to screw up the speed of the rotation. It just another was for the atheists to make up another theory to try to "prove" their theory. Actually, a comet may have hit the earth about 4,400 years ago. More on that later. Stalactites do not prove that the earth is millions of years old. If you toured on of these caverns, the tour giver will say, "Don't touch the formations. It took millions of years to form." Oh, really? Evolutionists believe that it takes 1,000 years to form 1" of stalactite. The Lincoln Memorial was built in 1922. There are stalactites under it. There an old WWII fort in Florida. There are 10 inch stalactites growing there, too. Did you know that ice accumulates on the north and south poles? That accumulation is indicating that it is less that 5,000 years old. Didn't the Flood occurred like 4,400 years ago? More on that later. EVIDENCE FROM BIOLOGY According to the THEORY of evolution, man has been on this earth for 3 million years. The Earth's population is currently approaching 6,000,000,000. If we were to take the event of the Flood that occurred 4,400 years ago in which Noah and his family survived, we would be looking at eight people: Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their sons' wives (yes, I'm referring to the event of Noah's ark.) Using the genealogy in the Bible from the flood, the average rate of the growth of the population of this planet, and simple mathematics, you will end up with around about 5,000,000,000 to 6,000,000,000, about the current population of earth. IF man existed 3 millions years ago, you'd have a serious problem. We'd have 150,000 people per square inch on this earth. Some of you may say "Well, maybe some catastrophe happened that eliminated most of the population in the past." Your right. It's the Flood that occurred 4,400 years ago in which Noah and his family survived. And don't tell me that Noah and his family was simply a part of evolution who survived today. If that were the case, then how did Noah know when to build an ark to save his family from the Flood? The oldest tree on this planet is 4,300. Scientific fact. The largest and oldest coral reef is the Great Barrier Reef. It was damaged during WWII. The environmentalist later tried protecting it and watched it grow for the next twenty years. According to the data they gathered, the Great Barrier Reef is less than 4,100 years old. Scientific fact. According to the THEORY of evolution the earth is 4.5 billion years old. According to the Bible, the Flood destroyed the earth 4,400 years ago. Why is it that there isn't a tree or coral reef that's over 4,400 years old? The genetic load in man is increasing. Genetics have cataloged nearly 1,300 genetic disorders in the human race. If evolution is true, aren't we suppose to be getting better? It is certainly reasonable to believe that the human race was created perfect from the hands of the Creator, but has been going downhill due to our disobedience to the laws He established. Read "Scientific Creationism" by Henry Morris, "In the Beginning" by Walt Brown, and "It's a Young World After All" by Paul Ackerman for more scientific information on this. EVENTS FROM THE BIBLE If fire didn't rain on Sodom and Gomorrah, God does not exist. If the parting of the Red Sea didn't happen, God does not exist. If the Noah never built the ark to escape the flood waters with his family, God does not exist. Remember, God caused these events to occur. So if there is no evidence to these events, God doesn't exist. Sodom and Gomorrah - Sodom and Gomorrah has been found. From a distance, this city looks like a burnt city. On closer inspection, some of the bricks were complete ash. That's how hot the fire got. But did it really rain fire? Sulfur balls the size of golf ball were found all over the area. The sulfur balls were at least 99% percent pure sulfur. And the location of this burnt city fits the location of Sodom and Gomorrah. Parting of the Red Sea - For years, people have been looking for where the parting took place in the Gulf of Suez and couldn't find it. It's because they were looking in the wrong place. The parting took place in the Gulf of Akaba, and there's evidence. There are two pillars on both sides of the gulf where the parting took place inscribed by King Solomon commemorating the crossing of the Red Sea. Along that path underwater are skeletons of horses and humans. There are also remains of chariots and chariot wheels laced with gold detached from the chariots. The Bible did say that God pulled the wheels from the chariots to help prevent the Egyptians from following Moses and the Israelites. And the style of the wheels fit the style of the Egyptian empire of that time. Also, there are two rows of stone found at the bottom of the gulf as if waters divided themselves pushing the rock to both sides. Noah's Ark - It has been believed to be found. The site is located 17 miles from Mt. Ararat. The Bible did say that the ark rested in the mountains of Mt. Ararat. What was found was believed to be the decayed remains of the ark buried under the soil in the shape of the ark as if it had collapsed. Supporting this believe were huge deposits of iron rivets that once held the ark together along with 4 to 5 ft size anchor stones that helped kept the ark stabilized. There's a tourist center now where you can visit this site. Something else. The Turkish government claims to have found the grave of Noah. On the grave is a picture of a boat and eight people (Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their sons' wives.) Ron Wyatt,(ph. (615) 331-6263) researched and discovered some of this as an archeologist. Check out his website at www.anchorstone.com. THE FLOOD Yes, the flood did occur. How it occurred, we aren't for sure, but there are scientific evidence to support this theory that hasn't been disproven.. Facts to consider: Saturn's rings are made of ice. The Moon has craters mainly concentrated on one side. If the Moon were billions of years old, it would make more sense that by chance the craters would be evenly distributed. The earth is tilted at 23.5 degrees which gives us the seasons. It's scientifically calculated that if the earth was not at a tilt, it would be spring all year long all over the earth, and we would have 12 hour days and twelve hours night. Remember this. Very important. Earth has a magnetic field around it. A spinning top will wobble if you threw some mud on it and will eventually stabilize itself rotating at a different angle. Coal, dinosaur fossils, and well preserved palm tree leaves were found under the ice on the Antarctica continent. Let's keep all of these facts in mind. We don't know the full purpose to Stonehenge, but we do know that it was used to measure the angle of the earth on the Summer Solstice (June 20, sometimes 21) based on the Summer Solstice shadow cast on Stonehenge by the Sun. An Australian astronomer, George Godwell, gathered all of the past records and information he can find on what the angle of the earth was during past Summer Solstices. After graphing all of his findings, he discovered that the earth started to wobble at about 4,350 years ago until it finally stabilized. It was also calculated that the earth was not on a tilt right before it started to wobble. Did something hit the earth back then to cause it to be at an angle? The Bible did teach that the Flood occurred at about 4,400 years ago. Remember this. In the northern parts of Russia like the Siberian Islands contain well preserved animals like the woolly mammoths, wolves, camels, and other animals in ice. These animals were so well preserved, the food in their stomachs did not have a chance to digest. The skin of the woolly mammoths were studied, and it was discovered that they were absent of sebaceous glands. These glands produce an oily coating on the fur of cold climate animals to make the fur waterproof. On closer inspection, the blood of the woolly mammoths had ice crystals indicating that it had to be frozen in less than 5 hours. The only way you can freeze a woolly mammoth in less than 5 hours is for it to be exposed in -300 degree Fahrenheit temperatures. The only thing known to man that is -300 degree Fahrenheit that is not of this earth are ice comets. Remember this. With everything said so far, it's highly plausible to say that a comet hit the earth causing this. A comet flying through space would explain the ice rings around Saturn and why the moon has craters mostly on one side if the comet flew by at this time. The ice melted and drifted off or vaporized off the surface of the moon. That's probably why there isn't any trace of what was once there. A comet is like a snowball. The harder the snowball is propelled, the more it will break apart. Well, the same can be applied to the comet. There's a law I mentioned earlier called the Inverse Square Law which means that then you half the distance between two objects, you quadruple the attraction of the gravitational pull. As the comet approached the earth, the closer it got the faster it went causing the comet to break up and get caught in the earth's magnetic field. It's a fact ice can be highly magnetized. It probably happened from the friction when it entered the earth's atmosphere. It had to be a lot of ice to not completely vaporize, and it was a lot of ice. In fact as the ice was magnetized to the top and the bottom of the earth, the ice on the top of the earth reached as far south as what is now Illinois. Sound familiar? Yes, people. This was when the "Ice Age" occurred freezing the mammoths. And when the ice hit, cold air and warm air produce rain. Also most of the plants that were on the bottom of the earth got squishes which formed into coal. Some didn't and was preserved and later discovered like the palm leaves. Now, remember it was calculated that the earth was not at a tilt at about 4,350 giving the planet springtime weather all year long. If a comet were to hit the earth, causing it to wobble, tilting the earth, which gives us the seasons we have today it fits what the Bible says. The Flood happened about 4,400 years ago. I know the dates are off by 50 years, but these are approximations. The Bible teaches us the first winter did not occur until after the flood. Also, the Bible teaches that there is water beneath the surface of the earth's crust. People have water wells and there are hot springs underneath the crust of the earth. It also says that "the springs of the great deep burst forth." How did this happen? It only makes sense that when the ice applied pressure to both sides on the earth, it cracked the crust causing the hot water beneath to earth causing more water to be release to contribute to the Flood. Now, these cracks are known today as the faults and the ridges we find on the earth today. When the hot water spewed from the cracks, it killed every living thing nearby in the water. Now, a diatom is a beautiful crystal like creature found in the water that cannot be seen without a microscope. When diatoms die, they fall on top on each other to accumulate to create diatomaceous earth. Diatomaceous earth is use today in products like washing detergent and cat liter. It's a fact that it takes 1,000 years to make a 1" layer of diatomaceous earth. Maybe the Flood didn't happen. Maybe the earth is billions of years old. No, it isn't. When the springs of the great deep busted forth, the ht water killed countless of diatoms along with billions of other fish who's fossils were found in the diatomaceous earth. Lompoc, CA, is located exactly on the san Andreas Fault. In that town, there a company called Workers of the Dicalcite: Division of Grefco Corporation in which they specialize in diatomaceous earth. In 1976 as they were digging in the diatomaceous earth, they came across a fossilized skeleton of a baleen whale in the diatomaceous earth. It was 80 feet long standing on end to end. If diatomaceous earth form at 1" every 1,000 years, how did the baleen whale remained there for almost 10, 000? It didn't. It was destroyed with the diatoms and other fish from the hot water busting from the earth during the flood. Grand Canyon is proof for the flood, too. Evolutionists believe that the Grand Canyon was carved out by a river billions of years ago. Did you know that the top of the canyon (6000 ft) is higher than the bottom? (1800 ft) Did you also know that the river in Grand Canyon is at the bottom of the canyon? Did you realize that the entrance where the river starts (2800 ft) is lower than the highest point of the Grand Canyon? That means that river had to flow uphill for billions of years to form the groove that forms Grand Canyon. I don't think so. It's true that the earth has many layers. That doesn't mean it's billions of years old. Evolutionists believe that each layer was created in a year. If that is true, why is it that there are no erosions marks between each layer? All of the layers are stacked like pancakes. If you took a jar of water, filled it with different types of soil, shook the jar up, and set the jar on a flat surface, the soil in the jar will separate itself in layers. Moving water automatically separates dirt and soil by their density. The heavier ones go first and then the lighter ones. All that water from the flood stirred up the surface of the earth, and as the dirt settled, it settled in layer. We all have heard of Mount St. Helen. You know, the volcano in California. This volcano erupted in 1980 if I remember correctly. The ash and mud that flowed from this volcano formed a dam that blocked a river running by it. After the eruption stopped, there was so much pressure from the river that it finally broke the dam. All of the water rushed out carving out a canyon that was 150 deep and I forget how long in 15 min. It looked very similar Grand Canyon. This is evidence to say that Grand Canyon was carved out of the flood waters that rushed off the land when it was soft mud. Check out Part 6, of Dr. Kent Hovind's Creation seminar for more info which can be found at www.drdino.com. Extra info on the flood.top 3,000 feet of Mt. Everest (from 26,000-29,000 feet) is made up of sedimentary rock packed with seashells and other ocean-dwelling animals. Sedimentary rock is found ALL over the world. Sedimentary rock is formed UNDERWATER. There is enough water in the oceans right now to cover the earth 8,000 feet deep if the surface of the earth were smooth. Large mountains, as we have them today, DID NOT EXIST UNTIL AFTER the flood when "the mountains arose and the valleys sank down." Psalms 104:5-9, Genesis 8:3-8 Bent rock layers, fossil graveyards, and poly-strata fossils are best explained by a Flood 2 Peter 3:3-8 says that scoffer are "willingly ignorant" of the Flood. "Willingly ignorant" means, "dumb on purpose." ABOUT GOD AND AVOIDING WORLDLY DECEPTION The question, "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift" is not a valid a question. Here's why. A rock is a finite object. It has bounds and limits. God is an infinite being. He has no bounds and limits. How can you associate finite attributes to an infinite being? You can't. We can only associate certain descriptive words to an infinite being in describing ONLY what we can understand about Him. Examples are "He is awesome" or "He is just," but He is also INFINITELY awesome and just. Asking the question "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift" is implying that God has finite attributes when he doesn't. It's like trying to match two things that don't go together. Therefore, this question is not valid to disprove the existence of God. I have heard the question many times, and it's used to brainwash people into believing there isn't a God. When it is defined that God is infinite and a rock is finite, it becomes clear that the question is bogus. That question is like saying, "Did you beat your wife recently?" If I said "yes," that means I have. If I said "no," it implies I did in the past. The question should be, "Have you ever beaten your wife?" and then, "Did you beat her recently?" Since the answer is "no," it makes the second part moot. The same applies to the question, "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift?" It should ask, "Is God a finite or infinite being?" and then, "Can God create a rock too big for him to lift?" Since the answer is "INFINITE," it makes the second part moot. DON'T get trapped in this. And don't give me that stuff that "if God is knowing of all things to come, it limits His choices on what He can do because he has to follow the events to come." Whoever said He was limited to His choices? It was His choice for the events to transpire the way they are in the first place. He's not following time, time is following Him. Besides, He is outside of time so time doesn't apply to Him anyway. For God, everything that has happened, everything that's going on now, and everything that will happen has already happened to God and everything else in His Creation. Don't let people get you with this either. Someone here said that the Bible claims to be the "Ultimate Truth." But what is it the ultimate truth of? Building a PC? Fixing a Ford vehicle? Playing a video game? The Bible is not the ultimate truth, but it is the TRUTH. For someone to say that the Bible is the "ultimate truth" is DECEIVING which will lead to question giving doubt about the Bible. GOD is the ULTIMATE TRUTH. Some of you don't believe there is a God because you do not know Him. You may know of Him, but you don't know Him. God is a stranger to you. How can you understand a stranger walking down the sidewalk until you have met him? Even after becoming friends you still wouldn't understand everything about him. The more you know a person, the more you will understand him. The more you know God, the more you will understand Him. The only way to know God is through Christ. And until you know Him, your criticisms of God will NOT hold up. I may not have all of the answers about God, but not having all the answers DOES NOT disprove He exists. We don't have all the answers about the human brain, and we know it exists. The answers I do have are facts that have been proven. I may have a few theories, but they are backed up by evidence through science that HAS NOT BEEN DISPROVEN. If you want more answers than the ones I have given, go check out your local library or here on the internet. I've already named a few books and websites. This is the truth. It has nothing to do with science. There is nothing scientific that disproves the Bible since God created the sciences. There are theories created by man that contradicts the Bible, but they are just theories. They haven't been proven. It all has to do with lifestyles. The Bible teaches that there will be scoffers in the land. There will be people who scoff at the Bible because it cramps their lifestyles. That's why they deny the existence of God. I'm not mad at the scoffers. I'm mad at Satan. Satan have been deceive mankind starting with Eve. A lot of you people do not believe in God is because Satan has deceived you. When Christ was crucified on the cross, He said, "Father forgive these people for they do not know what they are doing." The same thing is happening to those who do not believe in Him. You do not know what you are doing because you have been deceived.

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