That's been tried already. Its called mainframe computing. Client/Server computing, even with it's warts, is still cheaper and more prodcutive in userland. If the bighorkinmachine ever went down, you're SOL, EVERYONE is down. While in client/server while I may loose access to a program or two, I still can work on other things. Or I am smart enough to have redundancy (Citrix) to serve my applications and I don't have any downtime with a puking server. All still cheaper than the mainframe route.
Because that corporation you mentioned is NOT in the business of being software experts. And in case you haven't noticed, Linux documentation sucks for non-programmers. Paying someone, like Red Hat, who has the ability to modify the code and/or come up with intergration soluntions will be a must. Maintaining a corporate network is far more than knowing the workstation OS setup. There are plenty of desktop jockies that know Win9x/Win2k/WinXP that think they can run a Windows network. They can't. Same applies to the desktop jockies in Linux.
With offshore accounts and falsified returns, etc. I don't see this as an effective anti-spammer tactic. I believe that all the US govn't sees is: internet...tax. Senator Bedfellow has dollar signs dancing in his head with little regard on how this will affect us good or ill.
That's part of what I was getting at. But that would be immaterial for the US govn't if they could reliably tax the majority of US emails. The point for the govn't is to create a new revenue stream, not to provide us spam protection. Once they started billing, the govn't would never stop.
We could get into a discussion on how to structure it to tax mostly spammers, but that defeats the purpose of the proposal. Spammers are a red herring.
For the truely paranoid: The govn't impliments this and has to count your emails. So they require all ISPs to install Carnavor style systems. Since they're counting the emails anyway, why not just snoop them while they're at it? So now we would be paying the govn't to read our email.:-)
You're ignoring Germany and most of Post WWII Europe. We "haven't learned that lesson" because we learned, with alot of blood, the lesson of non-intervention. WWI & WWII are still more costlier in terms of lives lost that most of these smaller conficts put together. We can't let these things go because you never know which one is going to escalate into full world war. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Terrorism is a problem, but it beats having a world war every now and then.
True enough. But the US is a convient target because of the current global popularity of American pop culture. We're in the spotlight and that puts a target on our backs.
I wouldn't say the govn't ALWAYS does things not in our best interest. The purpose of taxes is to run the govn't and provide public services. In the case of taxing email, the govn't isn't really going to provide a new service for us, they are porposing a new revenue stream to fund other projects. If they were going to use the money to say, run fiber to my door, I'd be more sympathetic. But I'd still be doubtful of their ability to produce. In the end this is just a trail ballon for a large money grab, no matter how impossible the implimentation might be.
No one has free heathcare. You pay for it in some way. We just think outside the box here in the USA and pay for it in another way. And we have better care than anyone else in the world.
horse pucky. We're not shoving this culture thing down their throats. People around the world are buying it of their own free will. THAT is what pisses off the fringe and why they try and take us on.
It is our Constitutionally protected right to bitch about our government. It is one of the few rights that is consistently exercised by our nation. We're good at it and we're not giving it up!
The Canadians are proud of their country and every so often like to take a pot shot or two at their neighbors to the south. That's ok. We're stealing all their hockey teams.:)
First, I don't think this would ever work. Second, sending email is not free, I have to pay my ISP for the privilge. Third, where the hell does the government get off tring to con me into thinking they are providing me with some sort of service in this money grab? Pay per use is going the way of the dinosaur in communications. Look at MCI and Sprint offering one price per month for all calls. Pay one price and use it as much as you like. That is the way of the internet and the telephone/cellular business is moving to this model. The government has been salivating at the prospect of taxing the internet, especally email, for years now.
So answer my next question, when do they vote? They are not treated as full legal persons. Not all protections are seemlessly applicable to a corporate entity. Corporations also have limits on their speech.
But does the condo owner really want to get into the IT business? That is another important question to ask. If you run ethernet, you will have to support your local LAN.
They sent letters to the subscribers that were "downloading too much." Not to people that were trading on P2P. In the end they sent letters to about 70% of the subscriber base. They want your money but don't want you to actually use the service.
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Whatever happened to the C3D guys making 140 GB disks? Weren't they supposed to have a product by now? Or did they go under with everyone else?
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Get back on your feet and then counter sue later, after you dorm buddy has his law degree.
True, but you still miss out on the benefits of distributed CPU power. But everything has pros and cons.
That's been tried already. Its called mainframe computing. Client/Server computing, even with it's warts, is still cheaper and more prodcutive in userland. If the bighorkinmachine ever went down, you're SOL, EVERYONE is down. While in client/server while I may loose access to a program or two, I still can work on other things. Or I am smart enough to have redundancy (Citrix) to serve my applications and I don't have any downtime with a puking server. All still cheaper than the mainframe route.
Because that corporation you mentioned is NOT in the business of being software experts. And in case you haven't noticed, Linux documentation sucks for non-programmers. Paying someone, like Red Hat, who has the ability to modify the code and/or come up with intergration soluntions will be a must. Maintaining a corporate network is far more than knowing the workstation OS setup. There are plenty of desktop jockies that know Win9x/Win2k/WinXP that think they can run a Windows network. They can't. Same applies to the desktop jockies in Linux.
But will Lucas call him and make the big sword guy shoot first?
With offshore accounts and falsified returns, etc. I don't see this as an effective anti-spammer tactic. I believe that all the US govn't sees is: internet...tax. Senator Bedfellow has dollar signs dancing in his head with little regard on how this will affect us good or ill.
You don't read so well, do you?
And yet nothing you said has any relevance to the question at hand.
We could get into a discussion on how to structure it to tax mostly spammers, but that defeats the purpose of the proposal. Spammers are a red herring.
For the truely paranoid: The govn't impliments this and has to count your emails. So they require all ISPs to install Carnavor style systems. Since they're counting the emails anyway, why not just snoop them while they're at it? So now we would be paying the govn't to read our email. :-)
You're ignoring Germany and most of Post WWII Europe. We "haven't learned that lesson" because we learned, with alot of blood, the lesson of non-intervention. WWI & WWII are still more costlier in terms of lives lost that most of these smaller conficts put together. We can't let these things go because you never know which one is going to escalate into full world war. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Terrorism is a problem, but it beats having a world war every now and then.
True enough. But the US is a convient target because of the current global popularity of American pop culture. We're in the spotlight and that puts a target on our backs.
Our best interests are not always popular.
No one has free heathcare. You pay for it in some way. We just think outside the box here in the USA and pay for it in another way. And we have better care than anyone else in the world.
horse pucky. We're not shoving this culture thing down their throats. People around the world are buying it of their own free will. THAT is what pisses off the fringe and why they try and take us on.
The Canadians are proud of their country and every so often like to take a pot shot or two at their neighbors to the south. That's ok. We're stealing all their hockey teams. :)
For the humor impaired: that last sentence was dripping with sarcasm.
It wouldn't. But the government could finally cash in on the internet. Its all in our best interests of course.
First, I don't think this would ever work. Second, sending email is not free, I have to pay my ISP for the privilge. Third, where the hell does the government get off tring to con me into thinking they are providing me with some sort of service in this money grab? Pay per use is going the way of the dinosaur in communications. Look at MCI and Sprint offering one price per month for all calls. Pay one price and use it as much as you like. That is the way of the internet and the telephone/cellular business is moving to this model. The government has been salivating at the prospect of taxing the internet, especally email, for years now.
Other than all the people that have to USE those Java apps and know that it should be faster and conform to the UI specs.
So answer my next question, when do they vote? They are not treated as full legal persons. Not all protections are seemlessly applicable to a corporate entity. Corporations also have limits on their speech.
The Disney Corporation is entitled to Constitutional protection? Since when? When do they start voting?
That's what the mute button on your remote is for.
But does the condo owner really want to get into the IT business? That is another important question to ask. If you run ethernet, you will have to support your local LAN.
They sent letters to the subscribers that were "downloading too much." Not to people that were trading on P2P. In the end they sent letters to about 70% of the subscriber base. They want your money but don't want you to actually use the service.
Whatever happened to the C3D guys making 140 GB disks? Weren't they supposed to have a product by now? Or did they go under with everyone else?