There just is no link between.NET and Passport. Again, I say this because I have written applications in it for a year and have never seen Passport.
I said very clearly that Passport and Hailstorm will be built on.NET, not that it equaled.NET or was a part of.NET as you seem to imply. Regardless, that IS the link between them which everyone but you seems to be discussing.
dought very much Microsoft is going to come into my building, change the code and "make it" do Passport
This is nonsense and I never implied any such thing.
I say that you can do.NET forever without ever seeing Passport
I never said you couldn't, all I said was there will are consequences in supporting.NET, as there are with supporting any technology. I can't give you the "scientific" evidence you want, because that's nonsense. Speculation isn't, IN MY OPINION, a bad thing, you clearly like speculating on my familiarity with.NET.
What's wrong? Passport and Hailstorm will be built on.NET, and therefore Microsoft needs.NET as far reaching as possible. What do you think the point of.NET is? Microsoft's kind gesture to free us from the tyranny of Java?
Nothing I said was anti-Microsoft, however, your attempt at being fair and open-minded only leads you to naive conclusions.
IMO,.NET is the means to the end of Passport and Hailstorm!.NET is Microsoft's way of trying to get Java off the server side so it will have more oppurtunity to own authentication services. Microsoft isn't an Open Source programmer.NET is not just scratching an itch, there is some far reaching plan. That's the way business work, or at least should.
Just ask yourself this question: If.NET really mattered to Microsoft, would they be helping Free Software implementations and submitting things standards bodies? My answer would be "Hell no!" By supporting.NET you will be supporting Passport and Hailstorm.
Exactly. Those idiots at Ximian should be putting their efforts into Kaffe, which is way out of date and doesn't support half of what Java has to offer. Perhaps it's a vision of Mono-things to come? I'll tell you why they don't: Miguel is just too damn stupid.
They could have worked with Sun to integrate some of the.NET ideas that Java lacked. If I were Sun I'd switch focus to KDE.
Ximian is a joke of a company and will most likely be dead before they finish the clone of.NET. Why work on what you have now? It obviously needs a lot of work.
They should try to form services around the GNOME API's, but consulting on non-Free Software would probably go against their delicate ideals. Oh well...
Microsoft is worried because a lot of the Open Source/Free Software alternatives are better than their own stuff.
Nonsense. MS has beaten technologically better software from DAY ONE in nearly ever market it has entered.
MS is afraid of OS/FS because it can be gotten at no cost, not because of Stallman's hippy ideals, and not because Linux is so much better. MS doesn't want to have to give away Windows like it did IE.
This is not insightful, it's completely wrong. A company developing proprietary CLOSED SOURCE, whether it had started from a BSD-style licensed base or not, would have to pay just the same.
If anything it would be better for Borland and it's paying customers if there was BSD-style licensed code that they could put into their own proprietary products.
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There just is no link between .NET and Passport. Again, I say this because I have written applications in it for a year and have never seen Passport.
.NET, not that it equaled .NET or was a part of .NET as you seem to imply. Regardless, that IS the link between them which everyone but you seems to be discussing.
.NET forever without ever seeing Passport
.NET, as there are with supporting any technology. I can't give you the "scientific" evidence you want, because that's nonsense. Speculation isn't, IN MY OPINION, a bad thing, you clearly like speculating on my familiarity with .NET.
I said very clearly that Passport and Hailstorm will be built on
dought very much Microsoft is going to come into my building, change the code and "make it" do Passport
This is nonsense and I never implied any such thing.
I say that you can do
I never said you couldn't, all I said was there will are consequences in supporting
What's wrong? Passport and Hailstorm will be built on .NET, and therefore Microsoft needs .NET as far reaching as possible. What do you think the point of .NET is? Microsoft's kind gesture to free us from the tyranny of Java?
Nothing I said was anti-Microsoft, however, your attempt at being fair and open-minded only leads you to naive conclusions.
IMO, .NET is the means to the end of Passport and Hailstorm! .NET is Microsoft's way of trying to get Java off the server side so it will have more oppurtunity to own authentication services. Microsoft isn't an Open Source programmer .NET is not just scratching an itch, there is some far reaching plan. That's the way business work, or at least should.
.NET really mattered to Microsoft, would they be helping Free Software implementations and submitting things standards bodies? My answer would be "Hell no!" By supporting .NET you will be supporting Passport and Hailstorm.
Just ask yourself this question: If
Exactly. Those idiots at Ximian should be putting their efforts into Kaffe, which is way out of date and doesn't support half of what Java has to offer. Perhaps it's a vision of Mono-things to come? I'll tell you why they don't: Miguel is just too damn stupid.
.NET ideas that Java lacked. If I were Sun I'd switch focus to KDE.
They could have worked with Sun to integrate some of the
Ximian is a joke of a company and will most likely be dead before they finish the clone of .NET. Why work on what you have now? It obviously needs a lot of work.
They should try to form services around the GNOME API's, but consulting on non-Free Software would probably go against their delicate ideals. Oh well...
Microsoft is worried because a lot of the Open Source/Free Software alternatives are better than their own stuff.
Nonsense. MS has beaten technologically better software from DAY ONE in nearly ever market it has entered.
MS is afraid of OS/FS because it can be gotten at no cost, not because of Stallman's hippy ideals, and not because Linux is so much better. MS doesn't want to have to give away Windows like it did IE.
for hundreds of cheap Kylix clones with no code to be on SourceForge by morning.
This is not insightful, it's completely wrong. A company developing proprietary CLOSED SOURCE, whether it had started from a BSD-style licensed base or not, would have to pay just the same.
If anything it would be better for Borland and it's paying customers if there was BSD-style licensed code that they could put into their own proprietary products.