I wasn't completely convinced by your arguments, until I saw the ï in "naïve". That shows true class, so you must be right! (Note: just kidding, I think you're right regardless)
Exactly true, and that's kind of the problem. I don't mean to Godwin, but even the invasion of Poland was done under the guise of a justified response. A more recent example -- Russia's atrocities in Chechnya were all completely justified, there were real Chechen terrorists and real attacks on what Russia claimed was its sovereignty. The point is, no government as powerful as Israel's is stupid enough to do anything without a well though out diplomatic ass-covering. If you just listen to the Israeli government's official stance on everything they have done the last several decades, then yes -- they are completely innocent, their actions are always in response to unjustifiable violence towards their citizens, etc. But -- surprise, surprise -- diplomats are really good at twisting any situation and presenting it in a light that makes their side look like cherubs. I should know, I've seen first-hand the kind of mental gymnastics the soviets and their inheritors were/are capable of, true masters of the art like the world had never seen.
If you're satisfied just listening to the "party line" of one side and drawing your conclusions from that, then good for you, you will never experience the torment of trying to sift through the endless bullshit all sides of an issue always spew. But if that's not good enough for you, then just consider this -- any, and I mean any, population can be driven to violent rebellion (or terrorism, as they're calling it these days) if you apply enough pressure. People like Sharon, Netanyahu, Bush, Clinton, Obama & co know this very very well. And to suggest that the Israeli government doesn't understand that peace can't be achieved through some "an eye for an eye" policy is unrealistic -- it takes the intelligence of a 13 year old to see that no conflict has been resolved that way (barring, of course, complete annihilation/enslavement of the opponent).
Given that realization, the conclusion that achieving peace in the region has been nowhere in the agenda of any recent Israeli (or US, for that matter) administration is inevitable. Where does that leave us?
Oh no, look out, they're building a house! Those terrorists!
You are either willfully ignorant, or incredibly disingenuous (probably the former, if you've been getting your news from mainstream US news sources). With even minimal amounts of research, one can easily see that Palestinian civilians have definitely been subjected to kinds of treatment that, at least in any civilized country, should be considered basic rights violations. (Note that I'm not making a comparison between the Israeli government and any Palestinian organizations.) If you really have no idea what I'm talking about, I suggest you begin educating yourself by looking at the link in my sig.
Can you seriously claim, with a straight face, that none of Israels actions over the last several decades have been in violation of international law, or at least some kind of basic moral code?
Your assumption is that Israel wants to resolve the conflict; their actions clearly show that they don't. Israel doesn't really have a safety problem -- sure, they need fairly tough security in important places, but other than that they have a stable country. Their current policy (the same one they've been using for decades) is working great for them: keep squeezing the Palestinians, increase pressure (economic, political, and social) until they make a "mistake", e.g. some kid throwing a stone at a cop car, and use that as an excuse to expand the occupied territories, build more "settlements", and further increase the pressure resulting in more emigration and increasingly unbearable living conditions... Israel are right where they want to be.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Brave New World yet. If a reliable way of influencing dreams is discovered, the potential implications could be immense.
that he didn't stand up when they were drinking to Stalin's health." Citizens being urged to report "anything suspicious," leaves a good taste in your mouth, doesn't it?
It seems from the other comments that you (and me) are actually the majority -- it's just that the people in that one thread were a self-selected group that wanted tabs on the bottom... And whoever wrote the summary apparently doesn't understand the difference.
oh, what difference one apostrophe can make: "my girlfriend's moms" -> gay, possibly polygamous parents. "my girlfriends' moms" -> multiple girlfriends, one mom each.../grammar nazi
not exclusive to chinese culture either, same perception exists where i'm from. also, sorry for your loss. glad to hear that you're still independent, and i hope your kids are there for you when you do need them.
Trackball = YES! I switched to one of those logitech thumb operated trackball mice a few years ago, and i'd never go back. it is infinitely more comfortable not moving your wrist, not having to worry about having free space around the mouse, not having the cable pulling in weird directions, etc.
It's simple deconvolution FFS, there's no magic... In the fourier domain, it can be expressed as division, nothing more. The hard part is actually figuring out what the image was convolved with, e.g. the path the camera took as the picture was being taken.
I see, no problem.
I wasn't completely convinced by your arguments, until I saw the ï in "naïve". That shows true class, so you must be right! (Note: just kidding, I think you're right regardless)
What? I pretty much completely agree with your previous post, I was mostly making a separate point about [not so] hidden agendas.
Exactly true, and that's kind of the problem. I don't mean to Godwin, but even the invasion of Poland was done under the guise of a justified response. A more recent example -- Russia's atrocities in Chechnya were all completely justified, there were real Chechen terrorists and real attacks on what Russia claimed was its sovereignty. The point is, no government as powerful as Israel's is stupid enough to do anything without a well though out diplomatic ass-covering. If you just listen to the Israeli government's official stance on everything they have done the last several decades, then yes -- they are completely innocent, their actions are always in response to unjustifiable violence towards their citizens, etc. But -- surprise, surprise -- diplomats are really good at twisting any situation and presenting it in a light that makes their side look like cherubs. I should know, I've seen first-hand the kind of mental gymnastics the soviets and their inheritors were/are capable of, true masters of the art like the world had never seen.
If you're satisfied just listening to the "party line" of one side and drawing your conclusions from that, then good for you, you will never experience the torment of trying to sift through the endless bullshit all sides of an issue always spew. But if that's not good enough for you, then just consider this -- any, and I mean any, population can be driven to violent rebellion (or terrorism, as they're calling it these days) if you apply enough pressure. People like Sharon, Netanyahu, Bush, Clinton, Obama & co know this very very well. And to suggest that the Israeli government doesn't understand that peace can't be achieved through some "an eye for an eye" policy is unrealistic -- it takes the intelligence of a 13 year old to see that no conflict has been resolved that way (barring, of course, complete annihilation/enslavement of the opponent).
Given that realization, the conclusion that achieving peace in the region has been nowhere in the agenda of any recent Israeli (or US, for that matter) administration is inevitable. Where does that leave us?
Oh no, look out, they're building a house! Those terrorists!
You are either willfully ignorant, or incredibly disingenuous (probably the former, if you've been getting your news from mainstream US news sources). With even minimal amounts of research, one can easily see that Palestinian civilians have definitely been subjected to kinds of treatment that, at least in any civilized country, should be considered basic rights violations. (Note that I'm not making a comparison between the Israeli government and any Palestinian organizations.) If you really have no idea what I'm talking about, I suggest you begin educating yourself by looking at the link in my sig.
Can you seriously claim, with a straight face, that none of Israels actions over the last several decades have been in violation of international law, or at least some kind of basic moral code?
a group on multiple terrorist list (Hamas)
And who made these lists exactly? I can't recall participating in such decisions...
Your assumption is that Israel wants to resolve the conflict; their actions clearly show that they don't. Israel doesn't really have a safety problem -- sure, they need fairly tough security in important places, but other than that they have a stable country. Their current policy (the same one they've been using for decades) is working great for them: keep squeezing the Palestinians, increase pressure (economic, political, and social) until they make a "mistake", e.g. some kid throwing a stone at a cop car, and use that as an excuse to expand the occupied territories, build more "settlements", and further increase the pressure resulting in more emigration and increasingly unbearable living conditions... Israel are right where they want to be.
My sig once again depressingly relevant. (for posterity: Noam Chomsky - US/ Israeli Crimes Against Palestine)
Oh, but there is at least one partial solution -- extremely stringent campaign financing regulations, perhaps at the constitutional level.
Could you explain further?
To the cloud!!!
Surprised nobody has mentioned Brave New World yet. If a reliable way of influencing dreams is discovered, the potential implications could be immense.
Very funny, but all three branches of government are complicit in this sort of thing. And yes, both parties as well.
that he didn't stand up when they were drinking to Stalin's health." Citizens being urged to report "anything suspicious," leaves a good taste in your mouth, doesn't it?
there was no cause, because there was no problem -- it was just media panic.
It seems from the other comments that you (and me) are actually the majority -- it's just that the people in that one thread were a self-selected group that wanted tabs on the bottom... And whoever wrote the summary apparently doesn't understand the difference.
true. i was too lazy, so i skipped the "with high probability" part.
oh, what difference one apostrophe can make: "my girlfriend's moms" -> gay, possibly polygamous parents. "my girlfriends' moms" -> multiple girlfriends, one mom each... /grammar nazi
not exclusive to chinese culture either, same perception exists where i'm from. also, sorry for your loss. glad to hear that you're still independent, and i hope your kids are there for you when you do need them.
How did we let something like this happen? Makes me wish those comets had been on target...
Trackball = YES! I switched to one of those logitech thumb operated trackball mice a few years ago, and i'd never go back. it is infinitely more comfortable not moving your wrist, not having to worry about having free space around the mouse, not having the cable pulling in weird directions, etc.
Inapplicable; those are pixelated, it's not a convolution. It can't be undone.
It's simple deconvolution FFS, there's no magic... In the fourier domain, it can be expressed as division, nothing more. The hard part is actually figuring out what the image was convolved with, e.g. the path the camera took as the picture was being taken.
OT: I love your sig, I'd give a leg to see it happen for the sheer entertainment value.