Lets not also forget that it can be altered, edited and misrepresented in a equally short time. I'm not saying this is fake. But we should view these videos with the proper criticalness. These stories tend tp have a high truthiness too them. It does not make them true.
How long do you think is long enough? I think about 20 years at maximum. And just like the extensions applied to works produced before the extensions came into law, so should a shorter copyright term.
Patents have bigger problems that how long they are valid for... so I won't even go there.
I have seen it done. It was a while ago on older drives however, for a situation similar to this. Newer drives its harder, so I'm told. However I bet its wasn't overwritten once. I bet the FAT tables were deleted or files where just "unlinked". Recovery from this is not perfect, but you should be able to get back 50% or more quite easily.
aka Hollywood accounting, where a movie can make 10x what it cost and still have zero profit. Use net sales or something else that much easier to measure, not "profit". Even better do something like 5% or 10K which ever is less.
RSA, DH and EC crypto *math* was patented. Only in the USA of course.
The problem is not what can and cannot be patented. Its that they just approve anything in the patent if it sounds good enough. Then the courts are *required* to assume the patent is valid. There is no liability with the patent office for just rubber stamping everything that get push in front of them.
Yes lots of people here have also been saying that they didn't patent the gene it self. But thats how they enforce it. We have so many ways to get at this data now (solexa/454). Whole human genomes for a $1000 is not far away and IF you use that data to find this gene --guess what happens?
Some countries are already putting in void clauses in about medical patents because of abuses like this.
If you are obscure, good like finding a pirated version. Bittorrent is pretty useles for anything thats not popular. I couldn't BT a good chuck of the music I want even if I wanted too. Its just not there.
If your not selling it for money. Copyright infringement is not criminal. ie usenet/bittorrent is not criminal copyright infringement. Its a civil matter similar too, but not the same as say breaking a contract you signed. RIAA etc want this changed, but that so the state will do its enforcing for it.
I was a university student before mp3 etc were around. We survived by doing the bloody work and using the library. Yea I couldn't afford the text books.
I'm all for open access and "free" information. So then use the free text books that are out there. And if there isn't one for your field, go and write one. Its clearly not much work right. And you don't deserve to get paid since cost of reproduction is close to zero right. Or write some great music that we can all download and listen too and point out the good in bittorrent and co...
Oh your to busy infringing the copyright of others. Really even here you can see a shift with people claiming its their god given right cus everyone does it. You are losing your audience. People are getting the point that you don't care about law or rights. You just want free crap.
I'm all for copyright reform, but I think we are better off with some copyright. 20 years sounds like plenty long enough. And more reasonable "fines". ie caught with 100 mp3 you have to delete them and pay RRP for them. Its more like a parking ticket and there does not need to be any disconnected internet connections or such silly measures. Limit DRM or make it legal to break it for fair use. Have extra clauses for library's.
Well yea. I was assuming that you don't over capitalize. Its a bit lame paying for a printing press that can print 1000x what you want to print. I would think for most papers they outsource their printing needs. Even then I suspect labor costs are still the main cost of the operation over all.
I also worked part time in one. Emergency shutdowns were impressive. Impressive that it didn't break anything.
Your assertion that everybody must be able to instantly understand the law in its entirety without sufficient education..
I never asserted any such thing. Shop lifting is a lame example. Yea I need a lawer to tell me I shouldn't shoot people right? WTF?
But I get a letter from the RIAA...Then what do i do? I have to pay a lawyer. I don't get legal aid or anything. Thus the RIAA can use the law for extortion because most cannot afford proper representation or even work out what their rights are.
Its not like that in most of the countries I have lived in. You get free help and big cooperations (or anyone else for that matter) are not allowed to put a bunch of people on the same suit. It seems to be more of a USA thing.
America, where justice is blind if you have the cash. By lawyers for lawyers.
Even with things like BigInteger/BigDecimal etc its not as clear cut as everyone likes to think. Even things like rounding modes that are implied are not clear from a/b, where you tend to check the docs with a.divide(b) and there is implied state beyond the expected semantics of the operator.
I loved the idea of operator overloading in C++ until I worked on someone else's code that used it. Its no big loss in a language. I would far prefer closures, continuations and tuples.
I find it depressing how far behind mainstream languages are from the academic state of the art. However some of the academic languages have terrible tools. No matter how good the language or the coder there will be bugs. It would be nice to at least have a line number when something goes wrong.
The whole "multi core programing...is new" is a total joke. I have been writing serious code since the early 90s and it was more or less standard practice to be able to write "concurrent" code back then. Why does everyone think its new. There was lots of languages that did this automatically (badly) etc. Java was peddled as mutithread aware back when it was released.
And yet what do most people use? C or C++.
I have a hard time finding C/C++ as the right tool for the right job these days.
But, "Most free software is crap" is supported by what?
For me most of the commercial software I have to use *is* crap. Most of the free software I use is much better. Its not real data, but thats the level of this discussion.
And what metric would make sense with software? It clearly depends on what the user needs/wants.
The fixed cost of printing is very very low. Thats why we get so many glossy free advertising in the mail all the time. The main cost is getting content people want to read. Despite the popularity of blogs, reporters where the news is costs money.
Of course this is true of a lot of businesses. Labor cost are the costs, more or less.
The law is being used in an an unbalanced fashion to persecute someone not because of the crime he committed, but because he doesn't conform to the social norms of the leaders of his community.
You really think "leaders of the community" don't look at porn? Really?
I'm with you on this one. It would be nice to have better media. But we have the media that the masses want. Its what we choose to read and believe thats the problem. The general public don't buy or read things that are not sufficiently sensationalized. But heres the real catch. It doesn't matter how "concerned" or alarmed they are, about the only action you get out of these people is a few strong words about "issues" at the pub.
Some don't even have a computer. They are trawling and they are getting a bunch of false positives, and then use there size to abuse the letter of law....
I support copyright. But not what they are doing. I think a reasonable fine is the retail price of the items. ie caught with 100 mp3 --that 100 dollars and you have to delete them. But trying to make it a criminal charge or trying to fine people 100000 + dollars is stupid.
The difference is that non specialists are expected to follow those laws. I don't need to be a mechanic to drive a car. I don't need to be electrical engineer to use a xbox. I need to understand the law in order to obey or understand the consequence of lack of compliance.
So either provide free lawyers so that it is reasonable to expect us to know what the legal interpretation of the laws. Or make the laws understandable to those who are not specialists.
It should be pointed out that in many countries the later idea is implemented to varying degrees.
Terminate, Stay Resident. Yea wrote a few of those. Don't we just call them interrupt handlers these days.. What about DOS4G or whatever that would run in protected mode. Or getting himem setting correct etc. Sound was always a neat trick. I like to play the old games. But I don't miss dos.
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..would people be trying to say, "You wouldn't duplicate a car, would you?"
Yes they would. Yes they will. Yes they do.
Star Trek replicators sound nice. But who designs the first copy and why?
Lets not also forget that it can be altered, edited and misrepresented in a equally short time. I'm not saying this is fake. But we should view these videos with the proper criticalness. These stories tend tp have a high truthiness too them. It does not make them true.
How long do you think is long enough? I think about 20 years at maximum. And just like the extensions applied to works produced before the extensions came into law, so should a shorter copyright term.
Patents have bigger problems that how long they are valid for... so I won't even go there.
I have seen it done. It was a while ago on older drives however, for a situation similar to this. Newer drives its harder, so I'm told. However I bet its wasn't overwritten once. I bet the FAT tables were deleted or files where just "unlinked". Recovery from this is not perfect, but you should be able to get back 50% or more quite easily.
And two servers mirroring is *not* a backup.
aka Hollywood accounting, where a movie can make 10x what it cost and still have zero profit. Use net sales or something else that much easier to measure, not "profit". Even better do something like 5% or 10K which ever is less.
You cannot patent a mathematical function..
RSA, DH and EC crypto *math* was patented. Only in the USA of course.
The problem is not what can and cannot be patented. Its that they just approve anything in the patent if it sounds good enough. Then the courts are *required* to assume the patent is valid. There is no liability with the patent office for just rubber stamping everything that get push in front of them.
Yes lots of people here have also been saying that they didn't patent the gene it self. But thats how they enforce it. We have so many ways to get at this data now (solexa/454). Whole human genomes for a $1000 is not far away and IF you use that data to find this gene --guess what happens?
Some countries are already putting in void clauses in about medical patents because of abuses like this.
Also you'd get more K out of a stick of broccoli than an entire cow.
But the cow tastes better!
So you don't have a metric other than what you like more? Yea thats real data. You should go into politics.
If you are obscure, good like finding a pirated version. Bittorrent is pretty useles for anything thats not popular. I couldn't BT a good chuck of the music I want even if I wanted too. Its just not there.
If your not selling it for money. Copyright infringement is not criminal. ie usenet /bittorrent is not criminal copyright infringement. Its a civil matter similar too, but not the same as say breaking a contract you signed. RIAA etc want this changed, but that so the state will do its enforcing for it.
I was a university student before mp3 etc were around. We survived by doing the bloody work and using the library. Yea I couldn't afford the text books.
I'm all for open access and "free" information. So then use the free text books that are out there. And if there isn't one for your field, go and write one. Its clearly not much work right. And you don't deserve to get paid since cost of reproduction is close to zero right. Or write some great music that we can all download and listen too and point out the good in bittorrent and co...
Oh your to busy infringing the copyright of others. Really even here you can see a shift with people claiming its their god given right cus everyone does it. You are losing your audience. People are getting the point that you don't care about law or rights. You just want free crap.
I'm all for copyright reform, but I think we are better off with some copyright. 20 years sounds like plenty long enough. And more reasonable "fines". ie caught with 100 mp3 you have to delete them and pay RRP for them. Its more like a parking ticket and there does not need to be any disconnected internet connections or such silly measures. Limit DRM or make it legal to break it for fair use. Have extra clauses for library's.
Well yea. I was assuming that you don't over capitalize. Its a bit lame paying for a printing press that can print 1000x what you want to print. I would think for most papers they outsource their printing needs. Even then I suspect labor costs are still the main cost of the operation over all.
I also worked part time in one. Emergency shutdowns were impressive. Impressive that it didn't break anything.
Your assertion that everybody must be able to instantly understand the law in its entirety without sufficient education..
I never asserted any such thing. Shop lifting is a lame example. Yea I need a lawer to tell me I shouldn't shoot people right? WTF?
But I get a letter from the RIAA...Then what do i do? I have to pay a lawyer. I don't get legal aid or anything. Thus the RIAA can use the law for extortion because most cannot afford proper representation or even work out what their rights are.
Its not like that in most of the countries I have lived in. You get free help and big cooperations (or anyone else for that matter) are not allowed to put a bunch of people on the same suit. It seems to be more of a USA thing.
America, where justice is blind if you have the cash. By lawyers for lawyers.
Even with things like BigInteger/BigDecimal etc its not as clear cut as everyone likes to think. Even things like rounding modes that are implied are not clear from a/b, where you tend to check the docs with a.divide(b) and there is implied state beyond the expected semantics of the operator.
I loved the idea of operator overloading in C++ until I worked on someone else's code that used it. Its no big loss in a language. I would far prefer closures, continuations and tuples.
I find it depressing how far behind mainstream languages are from the academic state of the art. However some of the academic languages have terrible tools. No matter how good the language or the coder there will be bugs. It would be nice to at least have a line number when something goes wrong.
The whole "multi core programing...is new" is a total joke. I have been writing serious code since the early 90s and it was more or less standard practice to be able to write "concurrent" code back then. Why does everyone think its new. There was lots of languages that did this automatically (badly) etc. Java was peddled as mutithread aware back when it was released.
And yet what do most people use? C or C++.
I have a hard time finding C/C++ as the right tool for the right job these days.
But, "Most free software is crap" is supported by what?
For me most of the commercial software I have to use *is* crap. Most of the free software I use is much better. Its not real data, but thats the level of this discussion.
And what metric would make sense with software? It clearly depends on what the user needs/wants.
The fixed cost of printing is very very low. Thats why we get so many glossy free advertising in the mail all the time. The main cost is getting content people want to read. Despite the popularity of blogs, reporters where the news is costs money. Of course this is true of a lot of businesses. Labor cost are the costs, more or less.
The law is being used in an an unbalanced fashion to persecute someone not because of the crime he committed, but because he doesn't conform to the social norms of the leaders of his community.
You really think "leaders of the community" don't look at porn? Really?
There is something missing from this story.
I'm with you on this one. It would be nice to have better media. But we have the media that the masses want. Its what we choose to read and believe thats the problem. The general public don't buy or read things that are not sufficiently sensationalized. But heres the real catch. It doesn't matter how "concerned" or alarmed they are, about the only action you get out of these people is a few strong words about "issues" at the pub.
Well I heard physicists use the approximation that cows=spheres!
Some don't even have a computer. They are trawling and they are getting a bunch of false positives, and then use there size to abuse the letter of law....
I support copyright. But not what they are doing. I think a reasonable fine is the retail price of the items. ie caught with 100 mp3 --that 100 dollars and you have to delete them. But trying to make it a criminal charge or trying to fine people 100000 + dollars is stupid.
The difference is that non specialists are expected to follow those laws. I don't need to be a mechanic to drive a car. I don't need to be electrical engineer to use a xbox. I need to understand the law in order to obey or understand the consequence of lack of compliance.
So either provide free lawyers so that it is reasonable to expect us to know what the legal interpretation of the laws. Or make the laws understandable to those who are not specialists.
It should be pointed out that in many countries the later idea is implemented to varying degrees.
more xml is *never* the answer...
Terminate, Stay Resident. Yea wrote a few of those. Don't we just call them interrupt handlers these days.. What about DOS4G or whatever that would run in protected mode. Or getting himem setting correct etc. Sound was always a neat trick. I like to play the old games. But I don't miss dos.
Does it work under Linux? Cus dosbox does!