"Unlimited downloads during peak hours" is what the fine print says. The other plans only let you download 50GB during primetime. I guess it's similar to how cellphones only let you have XX minutes during primetime, unless you specifically buy an "unlimited minutes" plan.
It used to be, back in the 90s, you were only given 100 hours (approximately) per month.
Even today some providers like Netzero only give you 10 hours. So "unlimited" advertising in the 90s meant unlimited HOURS not data. In this case they TELL you exactly 200 GB, so you can't claim ignorance of the data cap
>>>As for throttling once you've used a set amount of data, that's pretty much standard practice... it's not like they hide it.
Precisely. If you paid for 200 GB ( and you hit that limit, I think the companies have every right to cut your off completely, just the same as my calling card or cellphone "cut me off" when I run out of minutes. The fact you still have Dialup speed is actually quite generous of them.
>>>it forces you to boil down your message into simple and direct language.
I wonder if phones will ever evolve to have email-length texts?
I was disappointed that VirginMobile eliminated their $15/month Texters Delight plan. That was a perfect plan for those who rarely call but do use texting. Now if you want the same service you have to spend $25. Good for the company but sucks for us. (I was similarly disappointed that Dish eliminated their $20 Family TV plan.) It seems these companies are eliminating all their budget options when families need them most.
Alright I looked it up. "Unlimited downloads" is what the fine print says. The other plans only let you have a fixed number of downloads during primetime.
I guess it's similar to how cellphones only let you have XX minutes during primetime, unless you specifically buy an "unlimited minutes" plan.
Yeah that means "unlimited time". It used to be, back in the 90s, you were only given 100 hours (approximately) per month. Even today some providers like Netzero only give you 10 hours.
So unlimited time is a nice benefit, and should not be held against the Aussie ISP. Especially when they TELL you exactly 200 GB.
>>>If we reduce to 80 million we have to kill 720 million.
Nice troll. Have you never heard of China's 1 child per family policy? It will take some time, but the size of each succeeding generation will be cut in half, and no need to kill anyone. So the US/EU starts with 800 million, and we'll assume they are all in their 20s for ease of calculation. They have 400 million kids. 20 years later the next generation will be 400 million parents having 200 million kids. 20 years later the next generation of 200 has 100 million kids. That generation grows-up and has 50 million kids.
And then they grow-up and have 25 million. Then 12.5 million kids. Of course you still have some of the previous generations hanging-around (about 25+50==75 million), but they will eventually pass away due to Natural causes, not genocide. You've basically achieved the original 80 million goal in only 100 years time.
Then you can revoke the one child per family law in 2110 as no longer needed because the US/EU population will be 1/10th what it used to be. And pollution also will be approximately 1/9th-1/10th what it used to be.
All I have to do is look at my Comcast Monopoly, realize that it was GIVEN that monopoly by my state government, and that negates any belief that government is "good" for the consumer.
Government is more often an impediment because otherwise I would be served by numerous cable companies like Comcast plus Cox plus Cablevision, and be able to choose for myself. Government grants of monopoly have taken away that choice, as they did during the 1920s-70s ATT era.
If you paid for 250 GB (for example) and you hit that limit, I think the companies have every right to cut your off completely, just the same as my calling card or cellphone "cut me off" when I run out of minutes. The fact you still have Dialup speed is actually quite generous of them.
If the customers desires more than 250 GB, then let him buy more from his Aussie provider.
>>>You cannot possibly have driven on the modern autobahn
No not "driven" but I've been a passenger multiple times. The autobahn looks no different than I-95 in northern Maryland or I-66 west of DC. I could trick myself into believing I'm still in the US, if not for the german signs. .
>>>it is a shame he didn't notice Germany's excellent rail network, which was much more effective at moving war goods than the autobahn was.
No not really. Hitler's Blitzkrieg was dependent upon the highway system - i.e. move tanks quickly across Germany as needed. Eisenhower wanted that same fast mobilization in the US. .
>>>So roughly one third is limited to 120-130 km/h (75-80mph)?
And the rest having no speed limit (except what the driver feels comfortable with). Yes that's how I think US interstates should be designed. In fact Montana had such a system in the 1990s, and it worked just fine. The only reason they switched from "no limit" to 75 was because of Congress ordering them to, else their rural interstates would still be unlimited.
Highway engineers already suggest speed limits of 85 on most interstates, but then they get overruled by politicians trying to score points with voters by arbitrarily declaring 65 is the maximum. ("See? I am tough on crime!" they declare.) If the politicians do not listen to College-educated engineers, then they certainly won't listen to me. .
No what you don't understand..... what you seem to not realize..... it that I'm a cheapass. I pay $0 for TV, $0/month for my pay-as-you-use cellphone, and only $15 for my internet. Why? Because I'm cheap.
For me the difference between a PC and a Mac IS significant, because I'm not going to spend $700 for any computer. I'll buy the lowest price I can find (which was $200 in this case). Also claims that Macs are worth $700 assume that I want the software they came with. I don't. All software I use is either open-source or free, so when I have the same capabilities as a Mac but still only spent $200.
Your arguments are reminiscent of how people claim the Civic Hybrid was worth the $22,000 pricetag. That's only true if you want the luxury. If you don't want the luxury, a standard 40mpg Civic can be had for $13,000... a significant savings.
>>>Yeah, and falling from heights is not fatal, only impact is.
Nonsequitor. And does not prove that speeding, alone, causes accidents. As I mentioned I could drive through the empty plains of Montana at 90mph and never have an accident. Accidents are caused by changing lanes or zig-zagging through masses of other cars (aka driver error). That is what causes 99% of the wrecks in the US, not speed.
Even if you made everyone drive at 10mph, there'd still be accidents because speed is not the cause.
Ditto. I don't mind that Ubuntu moved the windows gadgets to the left and I quickly adapted, but most people my age bitch and moan about it. (Although I do agree with them that it was a pointless.)
I've also noticed the same thing in music where people my age refuse to listen to the latest songs, but instead insist upon switching to the oldies 90s or 80s station. I like 90s/80s but it's not really any better than 2000s stuff - just nostalgic. Their brains have calcified, and they refuse to try something new, instead choosing to call it "crap"
>>>This assumes that you trust this self promoting douche to not be completely full of shit.
I don't trust him. Good thing he provides video, such as the soldiers killing journalists/children, plus laughing about it ("Look a dead kid. Shouldn't have come into the middle of a warzone brat."). I trust video. Hard to refute video evidence, although I've seen a few nutcases try.
What I wonder is why our government wants to cover it up. How many thousands of similar videos exist? We probably won't find out until most of us are dead.
Just like the wired phone service lets you choose your long-distance and local provider, so too do cellular service let you choose from many companies. I've got Virgin. You might have Sprint. My iPhone friend has ATT I think. Then there's Cricket and Clear and Boost and Verizon and Cingular and.....
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EXPENSIVE. You are paying ~$60/month for this 150k upload service. My DSL gives me the same speed for only $15. Even satellite is cheaper
Alright I looked it up.
"Unlimited downloads during peak hours" is what the fine print says. The other plans only let you download 50GB during primetime. I guess it's similar to how cellphones only let you have XX minutes during primetime, unless you specifically buy an "unlimited minutes" plan.
It used to be, back in the 90s, you were only given 100 hours (approximately) per month.
Even today some providers like Netzero only give you 10 hours. So "unlimited" advertising in the 90s meant unlimited HOURS not data. In this case they TELL you exactly 200 GB, so you can't claim ignorance of the data cap
>>>As for throttling once you've used a set amount of data, that's pretty much standard practice... it's not like they hide it.
Precisely. If you paid for 200 GB ( and you hit that limit, I think the companies have every right to cut your off completely, just the same as my calling card or cellphone "cut me off" when I run out of minutes. The fact you still have Dialup speed is actually quite generous of them.
>>>it forces you to boil down your message into simple and direct language.
I wonder if phones will ever evolve to have email-length texts?
I was disappointed that VirginMobile eliminated their $15/month Texters Delight plan. That was a perfect plan for those who rarely call but do use texting. Now if you want the same service you have to spend $25. Good for the company but sucks for us. (I was similarly disappointed that Dish eliminated their $20 Family TV plan.) It seems these companies are eliminating all their budget options when families need them most.
And it probably cost 5 times as much as the equal-sized disk drive. That is why game consoles stopped using solid state ROM cartridges .
Alright I looked it up. "Unlimited downloads" is what the fine print says. The other plans only let you have a fixed number of downloads during primetime.
I guess it's similar to how cellphones only let you have XX minutes during primetime, unless you specifically buy an "unlimited minutes" plan.
>>>4 gigabyte DVD image needs 32 months to download
Wow that IS slow. Even on dialup it would only take a little over 9 days
Yeah Australia's service is pretty bad. One of the worst according to these figures by Speedtest.net (average internet speed):
Russian Federation 8.3 Mbit/s
U.S. 7.0
E.U. 6.6
Canada 5.7
Australia 5.1
China 3.0
Brazil 2.1
Mexico 1.1 Mbit/s
Yeah that means "unlimited time". It used to be, back in the 90s, you were only given 100 hours (approximately) per month. Even today some providers like Netzero only give you 10 hours.
So unlimited time is a nice benefit, and should not be held against the Aussie ISP. Especially when they TELL you exactly 200 GB.
>>>If we reduce to 80 million we have to kill 720 million.
Nice troll. Have you never heard of China's 1 child per family policy? It will take some time, but the size of each succeeding generation will be cut in half, and no need to kill anyone. So the US/EU starts with 800 million, and we'll assume they are all in their 20s for ease of calculation. They have 400 million kids. 20 years later the next generation will be 400 million parents having 200 million kids. 20 years later the next generation of 200 has 100 million kids. That generation grows-up and has 50 million kids.
And then they grow-up and have 25 million. Then 12.5 million kids. Of course you still have some of the previous generations hanging-around (about 25+50==75 million), but they will eventually pass away due to Natural causes, not genocide. You've basically achieved the original 80 million goal in only 100 years time.
Then you can revoke the one child per family law in 2110 as no longer needed because the US/EU population will be 1/10th what it used to be. And pollution also will be approximately 1/9th-1/10th what it used to be.
>>>ATT...Sprint...Verizon...T-Mobile owns towers
Okay now I see your point. So if it any different over in the European Union? (just curious) Or do they also have a quadopoly like US has?
All I have to do is look at my Comcast Monopoly, realize that it was GIVEN that monopoly by my state government, and that negates any belief that government is "good" for the consumer.
Government is more often an impediment because otherwise I would be served by numerous cable companies like Comcast plus Cox plus Cablevision, and be able to choose for myself. Government grants of monopoly have taken away that choice, as they did during the 1920s-70s ATT era.
It wasn't advertised as such. They advertise you get 120GB for the cheapest plan and 200GB for the highest plan.
I just looked up their plans. They have multiple tiers, but the AUS$60 plan allows 120GB prior to being throttled
You can buy upto 200GB if you are a heavy user (with 256k throttle when exceeded). That's still 1/3rd my full speed CATV plan and not that bad.
If you paid for 250 GB (for example) and you hit that limit, I think the companies have every right to cut your off completely, just the same as my calling card or cellphone "cut me off" when I run out of minutes. The fact you still have Dialup speed is actually quite generous of them.
If the customers desires more than 250 GB, then let him buy more from his Aussie provider.
>>>You cannot possibly have driven on the modern autobahn
No not "driven" but I've been a passenger multiple times. The autobahn looks no different than I-95 in northern Maryland or I-66 west of DC. I could trick myself into believing I'm still in the US, if not for the german signs.
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>>>it is a shame he didn't notice Germany's excellent rail network, which was much more effective at moving war goods than the autobahn was.
No not really. Hitler's Blitzkrieg was dependent upon the highway system - i.e. move tanks quickly across Germany as needed. Eisenhower wanted that same fast mobilization in the US.
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>>>So roughly one third is limited to 120-130 km/h (75-80mph)?
And the rest having no speed limit (except what the driver feels comfortable with). Yes that's how I think US interstates should be designed. In fact Montana had such a system in the 1990s, and it worked just fine. The only reason they switched from "no limit" to 75 was because of Congress ordering them to, else their rural interstates would still be unlimited.
Highway engineers already suggest speed limits of 85 on most interstates, but then they get overruled by politicians trying to score points with voters by arbitrarily declaring 65 is the maximum. ("See? I am tough on crime!" they declare.) If the politicians do not listen to College-educated engineers, then they certainly won't listen to me.
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>>>the markup is negligible.
No what you don't understand..... what you seem to not realize..... it that I'm a cheapass. I pay $0 for TV, $0/month for my pay-as-you-use cellphone, and only $15 for my internet. Why? Because I'm cheap.
For me the difference between a PC and a Mac IS significant, because I'm not going to spend $700 for any computer. I'll buy the lowest price I can find (which was $200 in this case). Also claims that Macs are worth $700 assume that I want the software they came with. I don't. All software I use is either open-source or free, so when I have the same capabilities as a Mac but still only spent $200.
Your arguments are reminiscent of how people claim the Civic Hybrid was worth the $22,000 pricetag. That's only true if you want the luxury. If you don't want the luxury, a standard 40mpg Civic can be had for $13,000... a significant savings.
>>>Yeah, and falling from heights is not fatal, only impact is.
Nonsequitor. And does not prove that speeding, alone, causes accidents. As I mentioned I could drive through the empty plains of Montana at 90mph and never have an accident. Accidents are caused by changing lanes or zig-zagging through masses of other cars (aka driver error). That is what causes 99% of the wrecks in the US, not speed.
Even if you made everyone drive at 10mph, there'd still be accidents because speed is not the cause.
>>>Virgin and Boost are Sprint. Cingular is AT&T
No they really aren't. For example Virgin's HQ is in London, United Kingdom, EU
Ditto. I don't mind that Ubuntu moved the windows gadgets to the left and I quickly adapted, but most people my age bitch and moan about it. (Although I do agree with them that it was a pointless.)
I've also noticed the same thing in music where people my age refuse to listen to the latest songs, but instead insist upon switching to the oldies 90s or 80s station. I like 90s/80s but it's not really any better than 2000s stuff - just nostalgic. Their brains have calcified, and they refuse to try something new, instead choosing to call it "crap"
>>>This assumes that you trust this self promoting douche to not be completely full of shit.
I don't trust him. Good thing he provides video, such as the soldiers killing journalists/children, plus laughing about it ("Look a dead kid. Shouldn't have come into the middle of a warzone brat."). I trust video. Hard to refute video evidence, although I've seen a few nutcases try.
What I wonder is why our government wants to cover it up. How many thousands of similar videos exist? We probably won't find out until most of us are dead.
>>>Full HD porn video streaming?
Sure.
You can do 1920x1080 video streaming at 150k. It's just really blocky. (I routinely stream at 50k albeit at DVD quality, not HD.)
Hey that's still five times faster than my Netscape Dialup service!
How is the cellular market not competitive?
Just like the wired phone service lets you choose your long-distance and local provider, so too do cellular service let you choose from many companies. I've got Virgin. You might have Sprint. My iPhone friend has ATT I think. Then there's Cricket and Clear and Boost and Verizon and Cingular and.....