We have an empire in the same sense that the British once had an empire. Sure Britain was democratic, but it still had an empire that reached around the world. So too does the US with bases straddling the globe.
But if Congress gives itself power to regulate net neutrality, then it also gives itself power to remove nudity from the web, and to require licenses to publish blogs. Like they did with TV and Radio. That too started as a way to prevent multiple stations from interfering with one another, but quickly expanded to restrict the actual content.
But what about when Comcast gives priority to its streaming rented videos, and slows down streaming from outside connections (like hulu and netflix). That's the real concern.
In the last 100 years? Just a few hundred in the US (because of safety requirements). Not >100,000,000. ALSO: I worked in a coal mine. For one day. I decided I didn't want to stay and risk getting killed, so I left. People who stay behind and CHOOSE to do dangerous work are equivalent to a person walking up to a cop and grabbing the cop's gun. They chose that fate and the consequences.
Also I find it odd you would compare an *accident* in a coal mine, to the government's willful extermination of its own citizens. Not the same thing.
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>>>Most of them deserved it. Not all sadly, but most.
15 million mentally ill, Jews, and Gypsies deserved to be exterminated by the German National Socialists? 40 million Ukranians and "undesirables" deserved to be exterminated by Lenin and Stalin? 50 million by Mao Tse-tung? Really??? Oh my god.
Precisely. The "free market" simply means "power to the citizen". What is so horrible about letting people decide for themselves? i.e. "Microsoft sucks, I'm switching to Apple or Linux or Amiga OS." Or: "Comcast sucks... I'm switching to Verizon or Cricket Broadband instead."
What Google and the FCC want to do is give control to themselves, like they did with TV, and away from the citizens. Goodbye any illegal activities (like bittorrent or encrypted file-sharing) or adult content (nudist websites) or free speech (you'll need a license to publish a blog).
>>>Almost as well as letting banks and investment companies police themselves.
Don't blame them. It was government that caused the housing bubble (and subsequent crash). It was *too much* regulation not a lack of regulation. Basically it boils down to: Loan mortgages to people who can't pay them back, else the US Government will drag you into court and prosecute you. The government speaker even admits it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64#t=2m10s
>>>Government bad, corporate self-regulation good. Just stick to that line and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
Government is responsible for killing over 100 million of its own citizens (since 1910). Government used executions, gas chambers, and genocide. How many corporations do that? So yes government IS bad.
>>>The problem is some have decided to take advantage of the changes to position themselves better.
That's for sure. If the Government gets hold of the internet (via regulation) we can expect the following to happen:
- Porn will be pulled off the net. - Even nudity will eventually be outlawed. The internet will become as tame & boring as broadcast television, thanks to the FCC. - Internet licenses will be required if you want to publish a blog. i.e. No more free speech for the citizenry - - And possibly a reinvigoration of the fairness doctrine. So if I want to publish an article on my web journal about the Tyranny of Bush and the loss of freedom under the Patriot Act, I then have to link to a counter-article that claims Bush was a great president and the Act was brilliant. (Quoting ideas direct from Obama's white house employees.)
>>>Government [good], corporate self-regulation [bad]. Just stick to that DNC line and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
Fixed that for you. Which agency is responsible for executing over 100 million of its own citizens over the last hundred years? Corporations? Nope. They don't operate firing squads or gas chambers. So then it must be government. I consider BOTH entities to be evil, dangerous, and untrustworthy and so should you. The difference: Corporations don't have power to throw me in jail, bust down my door, send me to Afghanistan to die, or suck money directly from my wallet. Corporations are the lesser evil. Government is the greater evil.
Also "free market" simply means "power to the citizen". What is so horrible about letting people decide for themselves? i.e. "Microsoft sucks, I'm switching to Apple or Linux or Amiga OS."
Finally: It was government that caused the housing bubble (and subsequent crash). It was *too much* regulation not a lack of regulation. Here is the late-90s regulation that made it happen. Basically it boils down to: Loan mortgages to people who can't pay them back, else the US Government will drag you into court and prosecute you. The government speaker even admits it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64#t=2m10s
>>>diet cola that wasn't sweetened with [formaldehyde]
Fixed that for you. That's what NutraSweet/aspartame becomes after it breaks-down in your body. Instead I try to look for sucralose sweetened drinks, which are safer. Or no sweeteners, like the canned fruit sold by Walmart.
I didn't say Apple claimed it. *I* claim it. Both Apple and Microsoft have rewritten history to make it sound like they've invented the computer (along with the original IBM PC). I was talking to a college-aged guy the other day, and he said he had no idea there were other computers like Tandy, Atari, Commodore, or Texas Instruments. He thought it was always just Apple v. Microsoft.
Similarly a lot of people today look at my MP3 player and say, "Why are using that cheap iPod knockoff? Get the real thing." They think iPod was the inventor of MP3 players. VERY effective marketing on Apple's part.
>>>>>"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy." >> >>It seems more likely to me that she meant that all of the nonsense spouted by the extreme right (death panels and whatnot) made it impossible to have a reasonable discussion on what the bill was about.
Riiiiiight.
And when Hitler mentioned the "final solution to the Jewish question" what he really meant was a renovation program for synagogues. He's been miunderstood for decades.
How about listening to what Nancy ACTUALLY said. i.e. We the citizens don't need to know what's in the bill. We should just remain ignorant until it's already passed.
>>>It's amazing how Republicans keep spouting that completely ignoring that Clinton neither suggested nor mandated ANY of the lending practices that lead to the collapse.
But Clinton, or rather his employees, did sue several banks for Discrimination. It then left the banks scared to turn-down loans for fear of being drug into court.
The 1997 policy (that's when it was announced) set-up the Housing Boom by forcing banks to loan to everyone, even those too poor to pay back the loan.
>>>It sounds like it makes recommendations based on primitive demographic stereotypes
So it's just like LastFM then. No matter how much I use that site, it always recommends music I DON'T like simply because it assumes a male in his 30s would like to hear X, Y, and Z when I'd rather hear A, B, and C.
I have no idea what a Chive is. I fell for it, because the "fake boss" reminded me of the my last two idiot bosses. So it was believable in my mind. Plus I'd just seen the story about the airport guy quitting by sliding out of the plane. So it just felt like more of the usual whackiness.
The one thing I was suspicious of was the photo where the sign is hanging in midair without support. But I just figured there must be somebody else helping her, like a coworker or boyfriend.
As for making signs, that didn't seem that unusual. I've done all kinds of things on my jobs, especially on weekends:
- Use the free internet (back before I had DSL at home) - Watch Sci-Fi Friday evening (because I don't have it). - Borrow friend's dreamcast and play on big-screen conference room TV - Sleep - Watch NASCAR Race- Wander around on a Sunday, looking at all the hot daughters' photos (the bikini ones are best)
Basically I could easily imagine myself doing something like this "photo quit" routine. Do it on a Sunday when nobody's around, pack up my desk, email it, and never return. That doesn't seem far-fetched at all.
The country of Japan uses almost nothing but ADSL, and they have the world's fastest internet. You shouldn't make false assumptions that a certain technology is automatically slow.
>>>The ones in another city or state... which is apparently less of a hassle than leaving the US entirely.
+1 insightful. Better to have 1000 choices, than no choice. If I think Baltimore sucks I can move to one of the other cities and get new local government (or ISP)..... or even switch states completely. I hear DE is taxfree.
But you can't leave if the entire US (or internet) is being ruled by a single government. Then there's no choice whatsoever.
There's the wonderful place called wikipedia that provides a history of tablets, which predates iPad by almost three decades. Just like with the iPod Apple has successfully rewritten history to make everyone believe the iPod was the first MP3 player (it wasn't). Now they've convinced people the iPad was first, but it was not.
1950s- Tom Dimond demonstrates the Styalator electronic tablet with pen for computer input and software for recognition of handwritten text in real-time
1968 - The movie 2001 includes wireless iPad like devices for watching videos or doing work.
early 80s - KoalaPad - drawing pad designed for use with Atari, Commodore, and Apple -bit computers
1985 - Pencept and CIC both offer PC computers for the consumer market using a tablet and handwriting recognition instead of a keyboard and mouse. Operating system is MS-DOS.
1989 - The first commercially available tablet-type portable computer was the GRiDPad[27] from GRiD Systems, released in September. Its operating system was based on MS-DOS.
You're wrong. When the Enterprise's central computer dies, the PADDs become worthless bricks. They have no processing power by themselves. They are simply dumb terminals, like the old VAX terminals.
>>>The PADD was the first conceived cloud accessory.
Let's not exaggerate. In 1987 when TNG premiered, a lot of us were still using VAX terminals tied to a central computer. i.e. "cloud accessories". TNG didn't invent the concept.
>>>>> Do you not care about those [laidoff Chinese/Maxican/Indian] workers left to starve? >> >>No,
As I suspected. Typical anti-walmart kook (aka liberal aka democrat). You claim to despise how WM treats its employees, but then don't give a fuck about the thousands of workers that would be laid off when Walmart starts selling US-only goods again.
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>>>We don't have an "empire"
We have an empire in the same sense that the British once had an empire. Sure Britain was democratic, but it still had an empire that reached around the world. So too does the US with bases straddling the globe.
Well... at least until we go bankrupt.
But if Congress gives itself power to regulate net neutrality, then it also gives itself power to remove nudity from the web, and to require licenses to publish blogs. Like they did with TV and Radio. That too started as a way to prevent multiple stations from interfering with one another, but quickly expanded to restrict the actual content.
But what about when Comcast gives priority to its streaming rented videos, and slows down streaming from outside connections (like hulu and netflix). That's the real concern.
>>>So how many people died in coal mines?
In the last 100 years? Just a few hundred in the US (because of safety requirements). Not >100,000,000. ALSO: I worked in a coal mine. For one day. I decided I didn't want to stay and risk getting killed, so I left. People who stay behind and CHOOSE to do dangerous work are equivalent to a person walking up to a cop and grabbing the cop's gun. They chose that fate and the consequences.
Also I find it odd you would compare an *accident* in a coal mine, to the government's willful extermination of its own citizens. Not the same thing.
.
>>>Most of them deserved it. Not all sadly, but most.
15 million mentally ill, Jews, and Gypsies deserved to be exterminated by the German National Socialists? 40 million Ukranians and "undesirables" deserved to be exterminated by Lenin and Stalin? 50 million by Mao Tse-tung? Really??? Oh my god.
>>>Or letting Internet users police themselves.
Precisely. The "free market" simply means "power to the citizen". What is so horrible about letting people decide for themselves? i.e. "Microsoft sucks, I'm switching to Apple or Linux or Amiga OS." Or: "Comcast sucks... I'm switching to Verizon or Cricket Broadband instead."
What Google and the FCC want to do is give control to themselves, like they did with TV, and away from the citizens. Goodbye any illegal activities (like bittorrent or encrypted file-sharing) or adult content (nudist websites) or free speech (you'll need a license to publish a blog).
>>>Almost as well as letting banks and investment companies police themselves.
Don't blame them. It was government that caused the housing bubble (and subsequent crash). It was *too much* regulation not a lack of regulation. Basically it boils down to: Loan mortgages to people who can't pay them back, else the US Government will drag you into court and prosecute you. The government speaker even admits it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64#t=2m10s
An Inconvenient Truth indeed.
>>>Government bad, corporate self-regulation good. Just stick to that line and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
Government is responsible for killing over 100 million of its own citizens (since 1910). Government used executions, gas chambers, and genocide. How many corporations do that? So yes government IS bad.
>>>The problem is some have decided to take advantage of the changes to position themselves better.
That's for sure. If the Government gets hold of the internet (via regulation) we can expect the following to happen:
- Porn will be pulled off the net.
- Even nudity will eventually be outlawed. The internet will become as tame & boring as broadcast television, thanks to the FCC.
- Internet licenses will be required if you want to publish a blog. i.e. No more free speech for the citizenry
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- And possibly a reinvigoration of the fairness doctrine. So if I want to publish an article on my web journal about the Tyranny of Bush and the loss of freedom under the Patriot Act, I then have to link to a counter-article that claims Bush was a great president and the Act was brilliant. (Quoting ideas direct from Obama's white house employees.)
>>>Government [good], corporate self-regulation [bad]. Just stick to that DNC line and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
Fixed that for you. Which agency is responsible for executing over 100 million of its own citizens over the last hundred years? Corporations? Nope. They don't operate firing squads or gas chambers. So then it must be government. I consider BOTH entities to be evil, dangerous, and untrustworthy and so should you. The difference: Corporations don't have power to throw me in jail, bust down my door, send me to Afghanistan to die, or suck money directly from my wallet. Corporations are the lesser evil. Government is the greater evil.
Also "free market" simply means "power to the citizen". What is so horrible about letting people decide for themselves? i.e. "Microsoft sucks, I'm switching to Apple or Linux or Amiga OS."
Finally: It was government that caused the housing bubble (and subsequent crash). It was *too much* regulation not a lack of regulation. Here is the late-90s regulation that made it happen. Basically it boils down to: Loan mortgages to people who can't pay them back, else the US Government will drag you into court and prosecute you. The government speaker even admits it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64#t=2m10s
An Inconvenient Truth indeed.
Ron Paul voted against it AND kept his seat
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>>>diet cola that wasn't sweetened with [formaldehyde]
Fixed that for you. That's what NutraSweet/aspartame becomes after it breaks-down in your body. Instead I try to look for sucralose sweetened drinks, which are safer. Or no sweeteners, like the canned fruit sold by Walmart.
I didn't say Apple claimed it. *I* claim it. Both Apple and Microsoft have rewritten history to make it sound like they've invented the computer (along with the original IBM PC). I was talking to a college-aged guy the other day, and he said he had no idea there were other computers like Tandy, Atari, Commodore, or Texas Instruments. He thought it was always just Apple v. Microsoft.
Similarly a lot of people today look at my MP3 player and say, "Why are using that cheap iPod knockoff? Get the real thing." They think iPod was the inventor of MP3 players. VERY effective marketing on Apple's part.
>>>>>"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
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>>It seems more likely to me that she meant that all of the nonsense spouted by the extreme right (death panels and whatnot) made it impossible to have a reasonable discussion on what the bill was about.
Riiiiiight.
And when Hitler mentioned the "final solution to the Jewish question" what he really meant was a renovation program for synagogues. He's been miunderstood for decades.
How about listening to what Nancy ACTUALLY said. i.e. We the citizens don't need to know what's in the bill. We should just remain ignorant until it's already passed.
>>>It's amazing how Republicans keep spouting that completely ignoring that Clinton neither suggested nor mandated ANY of the lending practices that lead to the collapse.
But Clinton, or rather his employees, did sue several banks for Discrimination. It then left the banks scared to turn-down loans for fear of being drug into court.
The 1997 policy (that's when it was announced) set-up the Housing Boom by forcing banks to loan to everyone, even those too poor to pay back the loan.
>>>It sounds like it makes recommendations based on primitive demographic stereotypes
So it's just like LastFM then. No matter how much I use that site, it always recommends music I DON'T like simply because it assumes a male in his 30s would like to hear X, Y, and Z when I'd rather hear A, B, and C.
P.S.
For the humor-impaired, the last one was a joke. ;-)
I have no idea what a Chive is. I fell for it, because the "fake boss" reminded me of the my last two idiot bosses. So it was believable in my mind. Plus I'd just seen the story about the airport guy quitting by sliding out of the plane. So it just felt like more of the usual whackiness.
The one thing I was suspicious of was the photo where the sign is hanging in midair without support. But I just figured there must be somebody else helping her, like a coworker or boyfriend.
As for making signs, that didn't seem that unusual. I've done all kinds of things on my jobs, especially on weekends:
- Use the free internet (back before I had DSL at home)
- Watch Sci-Fi Friday evening (because I don't have it).
- Borrow friend's dreamcast and play on big-screen conference room TV
- Sleep
- Watch NASCAR Race- Wander around on a Sunday, looking at all the hot daughters' photos (the bikini ones are best)
Basically I could easily imagine myself doing something like this "photo quit" routine. Do it on a Sunday when nobody's around, pack up my desk, email it, and never return. That doesn't seem far-fetched at all.
.
>>>very-slow adsl
The country of Japan uses almost nothing but ADSL, and they have the world's fastest internet. You shouldn't make false assumptions that a certain technology is automatically slow.
>>>The ones in another city or state... which is apparently less of a hassle than leaving the US entirely.
+1 insightful. Better to have 1000 choices, than no choice. If I think Baltimore sucks I can move to one of the other cities and get new local government (or ISP)..... or even switch states completely. I hear DE is taxfree.
But you can't leave if the entire US (or internet) is being ruled by a single government. Then there's no choice whatsoever.
There's the wonderful place called wikipedia that provides a history of tablets, which predates iPad by almost three decades. Just like with the iPod Apple has successfully rewritten history to make everyone believe the iPod was the first MP3 player (it wasn't). Now they've convinced people the iPad was first, but it was not.
1950s- Tom Dimond demonstrates the Styalator electronic tablet with pen for computer input and software for recognition of handwritten text in real-time
1968 - The movie 2001 includes wireless iPad like devices for watching videos or doing work.
early 80s - KoalaPad - drawing pad designed for use with Atari, Commodore, and Apple -bit computers
1985 - Pencept and CIC both offer PC computers for the consumer market using a tablet and handwriting recognition instead of a keyboard and mouse. Operating system is MS-DOS.
1989 - The first commercially available tablet-type portable computer was the GRiDPad[27] from GRiD Systems, released in September. Its operating system was based on MS-DOS.
>>>the very name was from Star Trek...
Oh
my
god.
You really think Star Trek invented the word "pad"? Really??? OMG. The word "pad" has existed for over a century.
You're wrong. When the Enterprise's central computer dies, the PADDs become worthless bricks. They have no processing power by themselves. They are simply dumb terminals, like the old VAX terminals.
>>>The PADD was the first conceived cloud accessory.
Let's not exaggerate. In 1987 when TNG premiered, a lot of us were still using VAX terminals tied to a central computer. i.e. "cloud accessories". TNG didn't invent the concept.
But Europe has topless beaches.
>>>>> Do you not care about those [laidoff Chinese/Maxican/Indian] workers left to starve?
>>
>>No,
As I suspected. Typical anti-walmart kook (aka liberal aka democrat). You claim to despise how WM treats its employees, but then don't give a fuck about the thousands of workers that would be laid off when Walmart starts selling US-only goods again.