This seems awfully familiar. I think I recall reading something similar on wikipedia: ""Embrace" AOL's IM protocol [or Google browser]. "Extend" the standard with proprietary Microsoft addons which added new features but broke compatibility with AOL's [or Google's] software. Gain dominance since Microsoft had 95% OS share and their MS Messenger was provided for free. And finally, "extinguish" and lockout AOL's IM [or Google's VP8] software, since AOL was unable to use the modified MS-patented protocol."
BTW I wrote this paragraph two years ago. Thank you.:-)
But he didn't end them either (as promised during his first year).
We're now on year three. Had I been elected president I'd have said, "That's enough" and bring all the boys home in 2009. Next I'd empty all the foreign bases and hand them over to the EU, Japan, S. Korea, and so on. The excess money saved would be used to eliminate half the annual deficit.
This story reminds me of the Sliders episode (season 1?) where being a geek/nerd makes you a superstar. They even have sports where bonus points are scored for answering questions while shooting a ball into a hoop.
>>>By the time the patents expire, they won't matter anymore.
GIF, JPEG, and MPEG1 expired and we still use them.
>>>12k is the sort of thing that gets used maybe for cell phone audio
I listen to music at 12 kbit/s. Sounds a bit like AM Radio, but that is fine with me. If you want CD quality you can get it at 48k using MPEG's AACplus format.
NO open source can do that because open source (codecs) are almost always a generation behind what the pros are doing. So why the hell would I choose an inferior codec??? I'm not a zealot or religious.
>>>WebM has a nearly identical quality to H264
Not even close. WebM is almost as bad as MPEG2, both video and audio.
Not all will be scrapped. In the above article: "If a design only uses ports 0 & 1 off the chipset (the unaffected ports), then the end user would never encounter an issue and may not even be recalled."
Isn't WinAmp and VLC Player open source? (shrug). Well it's free anyway (zero cost), and it uses HE-AAC so that dismantles your argument that MPEG-produced codec cannot be used by Free players or Free browsers like chrome, firefox, etc.
If WinAmp and VLC can include built-in support for MPEG standards, despite the 1 cent per unit cost, so too can other free software.
>>>That 7 MHz 68000 CPU rendered a lot faster than my quad core Phenom does today.
That's because most of the Commodore=Amiga Fractal demo was performed by the CPU's graphics coprocessor (multi-processing in 1985 - impressive eh?). Of course a modern PC also has a graphics coprocessor, so I don't understand why it would be so slow?
Even now Amigas only need 500 megahertz and yet still equal the graphics/sound capability of a 2000+ MHz Mac or PC. (Playing youtube et cetera.)
GIF is free forever. JPEG is free forever. MPEG1 is free forever. And MPEG2/4 will be free forever too in just a few years. (Yes I consider a decade to be a "few" years - those decades just fly by when you're old.)
Eventually even patented stuff becomes free, so why choose an inferior Theora or other OSS Codec that sounds like "shit" at 12 kbit/s when I can use the soon-to-be public domain AACplusSBR codec that sounds great?
>>>ARM superchips are comparable to the pentium 2.
Yeah but my Pentium 2 laptop didn't run on 5 watts power. That's equal to how much my TV's digital-to-analog converter box uses.
Think of all the money saved if I used this ARMplug to bittorrent movies/shows instead of my regular computer! (24/7 on time * ~100 watts savings == 72 KWhr or $7.20 per month.
Speaking of assignments: the FCC is planning to sell-off the Free TV frequencies sometime this decade (current date is 2015 but will probably be pushed back). What on earth would replace it, I wonder? Non-free cable tv I suppose.
>>>Are you sure they aren't just auctioning off the part of the spectrum they freed up by pushing digital broadcasting? >>>
No those channels (52-to-69) were sold-off in 2008, before the transition was even complete, and then the money used to supply $40 coupons. This is a new plan to convert channels 14-to-51 into cellualr/internet usage.
Obama didn't start the wars. But he didn't end them either (as promised during his first year). We're now on year three. Had I been elected president I'd have said, "That's enough" on day two and bring all the boys home. Next I'd empty all the foreign bases and hand them over to the EU, Japan, S. Korea, and so on. The excess money saved would be used to eliminate half the annual deficit.
You mean like how China refused to let the Nobel prize winner go to his own ceremony? Maybe between now and then, the US will arrest Assange and do the same thing. That would truly be ironic.
Betamax, Betacam, Minidisc, CD, DVD, and Bluray are not standards. They are proprietary formats which Sony (and partners) get a cut from each sale.
>>>offering one of most open DAPs >>>giving us CCDs to create with...
What are DAPs and CCDs? Also what's this about Sony e-readers being "open"? Not the last time I checked, but maybe things have improved. One advantage of Kindle, although closed, is that amazon has a huge library of compatible books. Like my recent purchase - The Greatest Science Fiction volume 7.
Most people here dislike Sony for (1) their exaggeration that the PS2 could do Toy Story graphics and PS3 would be so great people would want to pay $700 initial price. (2) The Rootkit installed on music CDs without prior customer knowledge (or permission) which damaged many computers. (3) The rootkit removal tool which damaged even MORE computers as it destroyed important Windows components.
Of course my blacklist of companies is more than just Sony: - Google - Microsoft - Comcast - Verizon - Apple - Nintendo (although they are not as bad now as during the 80s).
That's because most of Amiga Fractal work was performed by the CPU's graphics coprocessor (multi-processing in 1985 - impressive eh?). - Of course a modern PC also has a graphics coprocessor, so I don't understand why it would be so slow.
Yeah but my Pentium 2 laptop didn't run on 5 watts power. That's equal to how much my TV's digital-to-analog converter box uses.
Think of all the money saved if I used this ARMplug to bittorrent movies/shows instead of my regular computer! (24/7 on time * 1 year * ~100 watts savings == 72 KWhr or $7.20 per month.
Speaking of assignments: the FCC is planning to sell-off the Free TV frequencies sometime this decade (current date is 2015 but will probably be pushed back). What on earth would replace it, I wonder. Non-free cable tv I suppose.
"Appelbaum, a high-profile associate of the Wikileaks whistleblowers' site, said the "irony was rich" in how the US Government that supported the pro-democracy protesters treated him on his return to the country and the experiences of an Egyptian democracy activist who was harassed on his return to Egypt as revealed in a Wikileaks cable."
It's the twisted-pair copper that carries my internet (upto 50 Mbit/s via VDSL2).
Speaking of phone lines, can my 56K Dialup modem be made to work through my cellphone? I'm thinking of an emergency use, like with the egyptians who have lost internet. The challenge would be connecting the POTS line from the modem to the cellphone's input. (Maybe this cable would work - http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/7830/ )
I got internet in 1988 via 1 kbit/s modem. I was one of the lucky ones who had an internet BBS nearby, so I could access the email and newsgroups of the period (also Fidonet).
My first web browser was Mosaic for Commodore Amiga in 1993. Then Mac Mosaic, Mac Netscape, and finally I sold my soul and bought a Win98 PC (and computing grew dull).
I think it's funny but not in the "haha you're stupid" vein, but more like how you laugh when a child is first learning to walk or write. My niece wrote "I hat you" on my laptop and when I read it out loud, she started laughing at herself.
I like to watch old videos from the 80s era. People are even more ignorant. "You call this a keyboard?" Um... yeah that's what it be called. Just like a typewriter.
>>>Uncharted 2 & 3, God of War 3, Demon Soul, Killzone 2 & 3, Gran Turismo, LittleBigPlanet, Resistence 1 & 2 (I think)
None of those are compelling reasons to buy a PS3 if I've already got a Wii and X360 (I don't but I'm planning to acquire one of each). Maybe if you listed something "unique" like Final Fantasy 14 or Space Channel 5, part 3, but you did not so I'll pass the ps3.
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>>>"here Google, we fixed your browser for you".
This seems awfully familiar. I think I recall reading something similar on wikipedia: ""Embrace" AOL's IM protocol [or Google browser]. "Extend" the standard with proprietary Microsoft addons which added new features but broke compatibility with AOL's [or Google's] software. Gain dominance since Microsoft had 95% OS share and their MS Messenger was provided for free. And finally, "extinguish" and lockout AOL's IM [or Google's VP8] software, since AOL was unable to use the modified MS-patented protocol."
BTW I wrote this paragraph two years ago. Thank you. :-)
Obama didn't start the wars.
But he didn't end them either (as promised during his first year).
We're now on year three. Had I been elected president I'd have said, "That's enough" and bring all the boys home in 2009. Next I'd empty all the foreign bases and hand them over to the EU, Japan, S. Korea, and so on. The excess money saved would be used to eliminate half the annual deficit.
That's the only reason I watch the Super Bowl. Although lately the ads haven't been too great. We don't get the cool "Bud. Weis. Er" ads of the past.
This story reminds me of the Sliders episode (season 1?) where being a geek/nerd makes you a superstar. They even have sports where bonus points are scored for answering questions while shooting a ball into a hoop.
>>>By the time the patents expire, they won't matter anymore.
GIF, JPEG, and MPEG1 expired and we still use them.
>>>12k is the sort of thing that gets used maybe for cell phone audio
I listen to music at 12 kbit/s. Sounds a bit like AM Radio, but that is fine with me. If you want CD quality you can get it at 48k using MPEG's AACplus format.
NO open source can do that because open source (codecs) are almost always a generation behind what the pros are doing. So why the hell would I choose an inferior codec??? I'm not a zealot or religious.
>>>WebM has a nearly identical quality to H264
Not even close. WebM is almost as bad as MPEG2, both video and audio.
>>>This seems like a terrible waste
Not all will be scrapped. In the above article: "If a design only uses ports 0 & 1 off the chipset (the unaffected ports), then the end user would never encounter an issue and may not even be recalled."
Isn't WinAmp and VLC Player open source? (shrug). Well it's free anyway (zero cost), and it uses HE-AAC so that dismantles your argument that MPEG-produced codec cannot be used by Free players or Free browsers like chrome, firefox, etc.
If WinAmp and VLC can include built-in support for MPEG standards, despite the 1 cent per unit cost, so too can other free software.
>>>That 7 MHz 68000 CPU rendered a lot faster than my quad core Phenom does today.
That's because most of the Commodore=Amiga Fractal demo was performed by the CPU's graphics coprocessor (multi-processing in 1985 - impressive eh?). Of course a modern PC also has a graphics coprocessor, so I don't understand why it would be so slow?
Even now Amigas only need 500 megahertz and yet still equal the graphics/sound capability of a 2000+ MHz Mac or PC. (Playing youtube et cetera.)
>>>A. Free forever, no matter what
GIF is free forever.
JPEG is free forever.
MPEG1 is free forever.
And MPEG2/4 will be free forever too in just a few years. (Yes I consider a decade to be a "few" years - those decades just fly by when you're old.)
Eventually even patented stuff becomes free, so why choose an inferior Theora or other OSS Codec that sounds like "shit" at 12 kbit/s when I can use the soon-to-be public domain AACplusSBR codec that sounds great?
>>>ARM superchips are comparable to the pentium 2.
Yeah but my Pentium 2 laptop didn't run on 5 watts power. That's equal to how much my TV's digital-to-analog converter box uses.
Think of all the money saved if I used this ARMplug to bittorrent movies/shows instead of my regular computer! (24/7 on time * ~100 watts savings == 72 KWhr or $7.20 per month.
Okay not so much but it does add up over time.
>>>I don't mind Frequency Assignments
Speaking of assignments: the FCC is planning to sell-off the Free TV frequencies sometime this decade (current date is 2015 but will probably be pushed back). What on earth would replace it, I wonder? Non-free cable tv I suppose.
>>>Are you sure they aren't just auctioning off the part of the spectrum they freed up by pushing digital broadcasting?
>>>
No those channels (52-to-69) were sold-off in 2008, before the transition was even complete, and then the money used to supply $40 coupons. This is a new plan to convert channels 14-to-51 into cellualr/internet usage.
Obama didn't start the wars.
But he didn't end them either (as promised during his first year).
We're now on year three. Had I been elected president I'd have said, "That's enough" on day two and bring all the boys home. Next I'd empty all the foreign bases and hand them over to the EU, Japan, S. Korea, and so on. The excess money saved would be used to eliminate half the annual deficit.
>>>I'm sure this will be suppressed somehow
You mean like how China refused to let the Nobel prize winner go to his own ceremony? Maybe between now and then, the US will arrest Assange and do the same thing. That would truly be ironic.
(US acting like China).
>>>universally used standards
Betamax, Betacam, Minidisc, CD, DVD, and Bluray are not standards. They are proprietary formats which Sony (and partners) get a cut from each sale.
>>>offering one of most open DAPs
>>>giving us CCDs to create with...
What are DAPs and CCDs? Also what's this about Sony e-readers being "open"? Not the last time I checked, but maybe things have improved. One advantage of Kindle, although closed, is that amazon has a huge library of compatible books. Like my recent purchase - The Greatest Science Fiction volume 7.
Most people here dislike Sony for (1) their exaggeration that the PS2 could do Toy Story graphics and PS3 would be so great people would want to pay $700 initial price. (2) The Rootkit installed on music CDs without prior customer knowledge (or permission) which damaged many computers. (3) The rootkit removal tool which damaged even MORE computers as it destroyed important Windows components.
Of course my blacklist of companies is more than just Sony:
- Google
- Microsoft
- Comcast
- Verizon
- Apple
- Nintendo (although they are not as bad now as during the 80s).
That's because most of Amiga Fractal work was performed by the CPU's graphics coprocessor (multi-processing in 1985 - impressive eh?). - Of course a modern PC also has a graphics coprocessor, so I don't understand why it would be so slow.
>>>Betamax is still very popular in commercial television
Bullshit. They use betaCAM not betamax. I really, really wish people would stop spreading This bit of misinformation.
Ooops. I meant 15. I'd buy a PS3 to get a game like Final Fantasy 15, if it was exclusive (which I doubt).
Yeah but my Pentium 2 laptop didn't run on 5 watts power. That's equal to how much my TV's digital-to-analog converter box uses.
Think of all the money saved if I used this ARMplug to bittorrent movies/shows instead of my regular computer! (24/7 on time * 1 year * ~100 watts savings == 72 KWhr or $7.20 per month.
Okay not so much but it does add up over time.
>>>I don't mind Frequency Assignments
Speaking of assignments: the FCC is planning to sell-off the Free TV frequencies sometime this decade (current date is 2015 but will probably be pushed back). What on earth would replace it, I wonder. Non-free cable tv I suppose.
I have a feeling we'll need one in the US very soon (sometime this decade).
TOR: Congress prepares to follow Egypt with internet kill switch
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/246707,egyptians-turn-to-tor-to-organise-dissent-online.aspx
"Appelbaum, a high-profile associate of the Wikileaks whistleblowers' site, said the "irony was rich" in how the US Government that supported the pro-democracy protesters treated him on his return to the country and the experiences of an Egyptian democracy activist who was harassed on his return to Egypt as revealed in a Wikileaks cable."
>>>what's a phone line?
It's the twisted-pair copper that carries my internet (upto 50 Mbit/s via VDSL2).
Speaking of phone lines, can my 56K Dialup modem be made to work through my cellphone? I'm thinking of an emergency use, like with the egyptians who have lost internet. The challenge would be connecting the POTS line from the modem to the cellphone's input. (Maybe this cable would work - http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/7830/ )
I got internet in 1988 via 1 kbit/s modem. I was one of the lucky ones who had an internet BBS nearby, so I could access the email and newsgroups of the period (also Fidonet).
My first web browser was Mosaic for Commodore Amiga in 1993. Then Mac Mosaic, Mac Netscape, and finally I sold my soul and bought a Win98 PC (and computing grew dull).
>>>I agree I didn't find this very funny
I think it's funny but not in the "haha you're stupid" vein, but more like how you laugh when a child is first learning to walk or write. My niece wrote "I hat you" on my laptop and when I read it out loud, she started laughing at herself.
I like to watch old videos from the 80s era. People are even more ignorant. "You call this a keyboard?" Um... yeah that's what it be called. Just like a typewriter.
>>>Uncharted 2 & 3, God of War 3, Demon Soul, Killzone 2 & 3, Gran Turismo, LittleBigPlanet, Resistence 1 & 2 (I think)
None of those are compelling reasons to buy a PS3 if I've already got a Wii and X360 (I don't but I'm planning to acquire one of each). Maybe if you listed something "unique" like Final Fantasy 14 or Space Channel 5, part 3, but you did not so I'll pass the ps3.
- embrace the google addon for MS Explorer so you can copy its data
- extend your own MS Bing engine with new features incompatible with the google addon
- extinguish the google addon because it can't use the new MS extensions (or simply disallowing its use in Explorer 10)
- profit
.