heh - my company had a DCOM-based program, and when we decided to port to Unix, did we look for a DCOM solution for Unix? Hell no. We yanked DCOM and reinvented a proprietary subset for our own use. Portable, far more stable, and much, much faster. No more coding around MS bugs, no more code-and-see to make sure it behaves as documented, no more service packs breaking things in our code.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I don't understand how this post ( http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=99/10/19/16432 38&cid=3 )could possibly be moderated "redundant"! It's #3! it wasn't redundant when there were only two other posts. Moderate the others redundant. Leave mine alone.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I know that a lot of people dissed Kraftwerk back in the 70's for a concert tour they did - where they showed up on stage, set up their synths (all sequencers), and left the music to play on autopilot.
Then again, at a Front 242 concert many years ago, the performers were so boring to me, they could have just as well not been there. The light show and music, and especially the crowd, was the experience. eh? Just go to a dance-club then, I guess.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Not only does it NOT work, but by the time it DOES work, the API will change. W2K anyone? How about every friggin time MS updates MSVC++? It ain't gonna happen. Not to dis Open Source, or anything, but the pace of OSS projects just can't keep up with big money. I know you can't hire 9 mothers and make a baby in 1 month, but MS has a shitload of cash, and a lot of developers.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Yes, witness Microsoft's "Linux Killer". I'm sure it's a lame attempt, won't work, but won't be their last attempt - but here's the "angle".
The monopoly, is NOT the Windows OS itself. I'm not even sure Microsoft gives a rat's ass about the OS (witness the quality of it). Microsoft's franchise is THE PLATFORM. If Microsoft can make the platform more attractive, (by letting it run on Linux), they can keep more customers from defecting wholesale. Sure, some folks will defect to Linux because now they can run their favorite MS apps on it. But they're still buying closed source software from Microsoft. The non-technies will try it out, and the first few iterations might make it worthwhile, they'll feel like techies because they're running KRAD Linux. Then, Microsoft's partner will find some critical bugs in the system, and send out updates fixing the bugs, but bundled with performance slowing "enhancements". Gradually, the features will get crappier and crappier, and the non-technies will leave the Linux platform with a bad taste in their mouths, and go back to running Win apps natively on Windows. Either way, MS has not lost any MS Office customers.
This same strategy played out on the Macintosh platform - with the Mac port of Office. Mac users loved it, they had compatible files with the rest of the world, and then MS screwed it up so that it was unuseable (4.2.1), and people, instead of abandoning Office, abandoned Macintosh. Now, MS did a fine job with Office98. It's great. but it's meant to be a hold-off for the DOJ case. I'll bet you a 1100MHz Intel chip that the next version of MS Office for Mac SUCKS really really bad, on purpose. And people who spent money demigrating from Mac to Windows, and back to Mac, will be forced to go back to Windows with an even stronger "Windows Only" mentality than before. The folks that trusted MS, and bought Office98, in my opinion, are going to get screwed for trusting MS. Y'all should have bought Apple Works, and that file-translation thingie. Y'all should also bitch-slap anyone you know using MS Office on Windows, to get them to start using RTF or some other x-platform format, instead of native Word. By allowing people to continue using Word, you've gotten stuck in Microsoft's trap, and when Office01 sucks rocks, you'll have nobody to blame but yourself.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
". . . should have no problem running an emulated environment for x86 programs"
The way I understand it, Intel is going to scale their lineup of CPU's, the high-end (very costly, only for businesses with $2burn) ones will do the x86 emulation in hardware, the low-end IA-64 chips will do the x86 emulation differently, with slower software-based emulation. So anybody caught running Windows NT on an IA-64 CPU better pay for the high-end CPU or it's going to run more slowly than the high-end IA-32. Especially since Microsoft has no *realistic* plans for porting NT to 64 bit anytime soon. (oh, they DO have plans, they're about as realistic as Intel getting an 1100MHz chip to market in two months).
This is why every Unix vendor this side of the pecos has jumped on porting their OS to IA-64. They don't want to be in the same sinking boat MS is in right now. There will be HUGE performance advantages for native IA-64 OSes. I'm actually a bit piqued about how Linux-friendly Intel has been lately. If this is done right, MS will look pretty bad in about two years, while they're still busily cranking out service packs to get 32-bit W2K running properly. Will they port to 64-bit? Yes, a little at a time, and I'm sure that they'll write like a 64-bit Notepad, and run it on 32-bit NT, and slap a big "optimized for Itanium" sticker on the box.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
naw. I'm just hoping that when the 1100MHz comes out, the 500MHz will drop enough in price that my cheap-ass boss will buy me one. I'm SO tired of waiting for MS Word to open a document on my old 250.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
yeah, but the decision to adopt Rambus was an intel SCREW UP, and one driven by greed and a desire to force other players out of the motherboard market.
I hope intel does release an 1100 MHz chip, and I hope they sell a billion of them, and I hope they're forced to recall them due to severe bugs, and not performing as advertised.
Will the world THEN learn not to listen to Intel's flatulent vapor? I doubt it.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I read an article, today, that seemed to indicate that 3com/Palm WERE actually planning on using the new Dragonball VZ chip in a new palm device.
Now, I don't give a rat's ass about color, but it's 33MHz, instead of 16MHz, so I'm wondering if there's going to be some kind of retrofit kit, or even a hardware hack. I know that there's a software program that overclocks the 16MHz up to like 18, and the expense of extreme battery wear and tear, but if the new processor could be soldiered/plugged into the same socket, and run at 33MHz, with no other mods, and give the same battery life, then. . . I'm dreamin' dude!
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
The more computers we have composing music, the less Ricky Martins we'll have to put up with in the future. I'm SURE a computer can do better than that. Even the 486-25 I've got running 95 in the lab. ..
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
If you choose to believe Intel - go right ahead. Where's coppermine? Wasn't that supposed to ship Oct 17?
(disclaimer: "coppermine" in no way refers to copper wiring technology. Intel still uses aluminum. Apparently, they know better than the rest of the chip industry)
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Unfortunately, my work uses Motorola MobileComm pagers - So, this Palm thing has a Motorola processor in it, yet no enterprising marketroid at 3Com or Motorola ever got the bright idea to make a Motorola pager card?
Que Estupido!
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
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heh - my company had a DCOM-based program, and when we decided to port to Unix, did we look for a DCOM solution for Unix? Hell no. We yanked DCOM and reinvented a proprietary subset for our own use. Portable, far more stable, and much, much faster. No more coding around MS bugs, no more code-and-see to make sure it behaves as documented, no more service packs breaking things in our code.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
. . . yeah, and the electricity your computer uses dates back to Franklin's little experiment with a kite. . .
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I don't understand how this post ( http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=99/10/19/16432 38&cid=3 )could possibly be moderated "redundant"! It's #3! it wasn't redundant when there were only two other posts. Moderate the others redundant. Leave mine alone.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Making WinCE apps portable to Palm would kill off WinCE?
Sorry, that didn't work for the Macintosh. There are several Windows emulators for Mac, and Windows is (sadly) not dead.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I suppose they could choose the best random improvisation using a genetic algorithm. . .
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I know that a lot of people dissed Kraftwerk back in the 70's for a concert tour they did - where they showed up on stage, set up their synths (all sequencers), and left the music to play on autopilot.
Then again, at a Front 242 concert many years ago, the performers were so boring to me, they could have just as well not been there. The light show and music, and especially the crowd, was the experience. eh? Just go to a dance-club then, I guess.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
"and yes i probably am ignorant, but its people like me who will make or break linux in the desktop
marketplace."
He's probably correct on this last point. . .
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Not only does it NOT work, but by the time it DOES work, the API will change. W2K anyone? How about every friggin time MS updates MSVC++? It ain't gonna happen. Not to dis Open Source, or anything, but the pace of OSS projects just can't keep up with big money. I know you can't hire 9 mothers and make a baby in 1 month, but MS has a shitload of cash, and a lot of developers.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
" to drag
potentially drifting developers back to Win32 with the promise of cross-platform binary
compatibility."
It IS a nice promise. Too bad Apple doesn't get it. (another opportuninty to bitch about Win32-Yellowbox licensing taken).
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
if it's that vague and technical, I think we can all count on Microsoft to begin abusing that term any day now.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Yes, witness Microsoft's "Linux Killer". I'm sure it's a lame attempt, won't work, but won't be their last attempt - but here's the "angle".
The monopoly, is NOT the Windows OS itself. I'm not even sure Microsoft gives a rat's ass about the OS (witness the quality of it). Microsoft's franchise is THE PLATFORM.
If Microsoft can make the platform more attractive, (by letting it run on Linux), they can keep more customers from defecting wholesale. Sure, some folks will defect to Linux because now they can run their favorite MS apps on it. But they're still buying closed source software from Microsoft. The non-technies will try it out, and the first few iterations might make it worthwhile, they'll feel like techies because they're running KRAD Linux. Then, Microsoft's partner will find some critical bugs in the system, and send out updates fixing the bugs, but bundled with performance slowing "enhancements". Gradually, the features will get crappier and crappier, and the non-technies will leave the Linux platform with a bad taste in their mouths, and go back to running Win apps natively on Windows. Either way, MS has not lost any MS Office customers.
This same strategy played out on the Macintosh platform - with the Mac port of Office. Mac users loved it, they had compatible files with the rest of the world, and then MS screwed it up so that it was unuseable (4.2.1), and people, instead of abandoning Office, abandoned Macintosh.
Now, MS did a fine job with Office98. It's great. but it's meant to be a hold-off for the DOJ case. I'll bet you a 1100MHz Intel chip that the next version of MS Office for Mac SUCKS really really bad, on purpose. And people who spent money demigrating from Mac to Windows, and back to Mac, will be forced to go back to Windows with an even stronger "Windows Only" mentality than before.
The folks that trusted MS, and bought Office98, in my opinion, are going to get screwed for trusting MS. Y'all should have bought Apple Works, and that file-translation thingie. Y'all should also bitch-slap anyone you know using MS Office on Windows, to get them to start using RTF or some other x-platform format, instead of native Word. By allowing people to continue using Word, you've gotten stuck in Microsoft's trap, and when Office01 sucks rocks, you'll have nobody to blame but yourself.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
". . . should have no problem running an emulated environment for x86 programs"
The way I understand it, Intel is going to scale their lineup of CPU's, the high-end (very costly, only for businesses with $2burn) ones will do the x86 emulation in hardware, the low-end IA-64 chips will do the x86 emulation differently, with slower software-based emulation. So anybody caught running Windows NT on an IA-64 CPU better pay for the high-end CPU or it's going to run more slowly than the high-end IA-32. Especially since Microsoft has no *realistic* plans for porting NT to 64 bit anytime soon. (oh, they DO have plans, they're about as realistic as Intel getting an 1100MHz chip to market in two months).
This is why every Unix vendor this side of the pecos has jumped on porting their OS to IA-64. They don't want to be in the same sinking boat MS is in right now. There will be HUGE performance advantages for native IA-64 OSes. I'm actually a bit piqued about how Linux-friendly Intel has been lately. If this is done right, MS will look pretty bad in about two years, while they're still busily cranking out service packs to get 32-bit W2K running properly. Will they port to 64-bit? Yes, a little at a time, and I'm sure that they'll write like a 64-bit Notepad, and run it on 32-bit NT, and slap a big "optimized for Itanium" sticker on the box.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
naw. I'm just hoping that when the 1100MHz comes out, the 500MHz will drop enough in price that my cheap-ass boss will buy me one. I'm SO tired of waiting for MS Word to open a document on my old 250.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
um. been saying that for 10 years. . .
Moore's law; It's not a keen observation of microprocessor technology, it's a business plan.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Ah, the only Pentium Killer I know about is Windows NT. . . It sure killed MY pentium.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
yeah, but the decision to adopt Rambus was an intel SCREW UP, and one driven by greed and a desire to force other players out of the motherboard market.
I hope intel does release an 1100 MHz chip, and I hope they sell a billion of them, and I hope they're forced to recall them due to severe bugs, and not performing as advertised.
Will the world THEN learn not to listen to Intel's flatulent vapor? I doubt it.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
I read an article, today, that seemed to indicate that 3com/Palm WERE actually planning on using the new Dragonball VZ chip in a new palm device.
Now, I don't give a rat's ass about color, but it's 33MHz, instead of 16MHz, so I'm wondering if there's going to be some kind of retrofit kit, or even a hardware hack. I know that there's a software program that overclocks the 16MHz up to like 18, and the expense of extreme battery wear and tear, but if the new processor could be soldiered/plugged into the same socket, and run at 33MHz, with no other mods, and give the same battery life, then. . . I'm dreamin' dude!
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Hell, I'm suprised that they acknowleged the fact that Macintosh exists.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
The more computers we have composing music, the less Ricky Martins we'll have to put up with in the future. I'm SURE a computer can do better than that. Even the 486-25 I've got running 95 in the lab. . .
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
" The Internet
is almost singlehandedly responsible for our current state of economic bliss."
Think again.
Think, cheap oil.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
If you choose to believe Intel - go right ahead. Where's coppermine? Wasn't that supposed to ship Oct 17?
(disclaimer: "coppermine" in no way refers to copper wiring technology. Intel still uses aluminum. Apparently, they know better than the rest of the chip industry)
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
That sideways-grip thing really irks me. Especially when cops do it, since it supposedly came from LA gangsta-rap videos.
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Considering what they price these things at, cost isn't a problem. . .
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Unfortunately, my work uses Motorola MobileComm pagers -
So, this Palm thing has a Motorola processor in it, yet no enterprising marketroid at 3Com or Motorola ever got the bright idea to make a Motorola pager card?
Que Estupido!
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
Photo editing? No.
pr0n - yes.
Brings new meaning to the word Palmtop.
(some wince devices even play Mpegs. . . I hope they're moisture and shock resistant)
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."