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  1. You really have to interview them on Best Security / Vulnerability Testing Firms for Web Apps? · · Score: 5, Informative

    I worked for KPMG for ten years performing penetration tests. For the last several of those years I ran the teams and worked with clients to scope the work.

    The following is true for most big companies that have country or regional teams and for any team for that matter: there are good teams and bad teams. You're going to have to talk to the techies to get comfortable with them.

    The bad companies will use a lot of automated methods. For example they'll tell you that they have a software product that does the pen test and then they manually review the output. There are a few of those 'pen test in a box' companies out there you should avoid. Or they'll say they know what they're doing and actually run nmap, nessus and then do some poor manual testing.

    What you need is someone who will make use of some automated tools but spend a lot of time manually testing the web application. This means they are manually testings various inputs to see what they can do and they have to know what they're talking about. I don't mind companies that rely on products like WebInspect or AppScan, but that should only be a tool and not the main show. Make sure you ask to talk to the techies and not just the salesguy so you can ask them how a web app should be secured and what kind of things you should look for to get your app in shape before a pen test begins. What often distinguished us was that we could give free advice to help improve security even before our testing began.

    Besides some of the teams at KPMG and the other big firms (again, you have to vet each team) I would also suggest Corsaire which is a smaller company.

    In terms of scoping work you should ask for an infrastructure test and an application test. If you are really unsure of things you should ask for them also to review your architecture and things like your firewall rules. Expect to pay a minimum of 5k USD but depending on how big your app is you may get as high as 30k. After htat you can look at regular scanning but there are a lot of companies that offer that more cheaply (like Qualys)

    Ask whoever you choose to first run an automated scan against the site so you can fix those things before they do their work. Give yourself a few weeks for that. You really really don't want them to test your site before it is ready. Otherwise it might be a waste of money. I now work for another global company but on the other side of the table: I use services from companies like KPMG. I'm still impressed with the service they and some of the biggies give us. They find things that I haven't even had a chance to hear about yet. And occasionally we'll have a really crappy B team that misses things I've already found in our apps but didn't tell them. That tends to happen more from some of our smaller vendors who magically got on our approved tester list.