Also some people win in halo a lot more then others and some people loose more then others. Both have autoaim and both are using controllers. Its a different skill and a different game. Just because you couldn't beat your friend that one time he asked you to come over doesn't mean he had more auto aim then you.
>>Remove auto-aim from the equation. And what do you get? Yes, thank you for proving my point.
Ssh! The console people who think they're elite FPSers will become irate if they realize the game is actually doing the aiming for them!
actually a lot of competitive people turn this feature off to avoid getting pulled onto an undesired target./gasp some people CAN use their thumbs with precision.
Also try to draw a complex shape with your mouse right now. Now try that with a tablet or touch screen, way easier. So lets all get touch screens since they are more precise and just tap each others faces to death that sounds like a whole lot of fun!!! =/
wow. a mice is more precise which is why you couldn't pick up a controller and own me. Your too used having your pointer doing exactly what you tell it. The controller is an abstract art. Yes the keyboard and mouse is faster and more precise but for the last time the fun of a controller is that its not as fast a mouse and you have to work it and your surroundings harder to maintain edge. You guys love to bully the controller people with your speed and precision but the truth is the controller is a sentimental device and all the little halo kids who are growing up now with a controller in hand are gonna have similar feelings. One of my first memories is playing Popeye on colecovision, and i hope consoles and controllers thrive for the rest of my life even if you think they are garbage they make me and apparently the people I compete with happy and I think at the end of the day that's all that matters. I don't think any laws are being passed in the near future dictating what type of controls are to be used when playing a first person shooter so there is no need to argue mice superiority anymore.
well if you got where i was going with my poor analogy you didn't exactly show me.
We get it, that many console gamers like to play casually. Just stop insisting that a gamepad is on par with a mouse for PC derived games, like RTSs and FPSs, because it's not.
Tell this to the however many thousands play it every day. Lot's of console players consider themselves more then casual and some are actually starting to get paid pretty decent money to play professionally, so I don't think you can make the claim they are not on par they are just two different categories. Maybe another poor sports analogy will help me explain what I'm getting at. Why Put the basketball hoop at 10feet when it would be a lot easier to reach at 6 or 7. And as what I meant about your surrounding's is that in a console fps the sticks don't spin you around instantly like a mouse with the sensitivity up will, so if someone sneaks up behind you on a console you have to be a little more ready then just spinning and firing.
Also I'm pretty sure people that QQ about the mouse being better just hate getting ownd with the sticks. With enough practice you too could own analogous.
corked baseball bats work better too what's your point? The competition in halo is the controller, who is better at manipulating it and who is best at compensating for the slow look speed by being very aware of your surroundings. Not everyone is fond of the Unreal spray and pray run as fast as you can chaos.
I think they are trying to say they came up with a better way to run the game from the controller other then using it as a gimp mouse. As in the past playing the console version of an RTS felt very clumsy and slow. I don't see why it would be hard to believe someone getting excited over an RTS that actually put a lot of thought into the control scheme and made it fun to play on the console. A game outside the standard "box" the genre is in, will in my opinion, be a fun thing to see.
Other than the people who aren't old enough, who played Halo that didn't play Goldeneye first? I don't get that statement.
Goldeneye was the first console FPS that was a lot of fun, until your friends left of course or you had to go home. It was on the N64 so there was no online play. Halo 2 brought online competitiveness to console fps though unreal did try on the dreamcast but 56k didnt cut it =P.
And for the people that think they are ruining an rts by making it controller friendly i dont know about you but WOW has destroyed my wrists and I hate to sit at my pc anylonger then I need to. Yes the mouse is faster and there are more buttons on a keyboard to bind to, but my bed and tv with the controler is where i want to be. Not having my hand and ass go numb in my chair.
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Also some people win in halo a lot more then others and some people loose more then others. Both have autoaim and both are using controllers. Its a different skill and a different game. Just because you couldn't beat your friend that one time he asked you to come over doesn't mean he had more auto aim then you.
>>Remove auto-aim from the equation. And what do you get? Yes, thank you for proving my point.
Ssh! The console people who think they're elite FPSers will become irate if they realize the game is actually doing the aiming for them!
actually a lot of competitive people turn this feature off to avoid getting pulled onto an undesired target. /gasp some people CAN use their thumbs with precision.
If anyone needs a colonist I was recently laid off. I can weld and swim well.(You swim to move in zero g right?).
Don't forget surround sound. My pc is louder and has more speakers then my tv. yes i have all that and even http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1578906&csid=_21 to make my mouse decent from bed. doesn't make me like my xbox any less or care less that a lot of people are working hard on making something....different.
Also try to draw a complex shape with your mouse right now. Now try that with a tablet or touch screen, way easier. So lets all get touch screens since they are more precise and just tap each others faces to death that sounds like a whole lot of fun!!! =/
wow. a mice is more precise which is why you couldn't pick up a controller and own me. Your too used having your pointer doing exactly what you tell it. The controller is an abstract art. Yes the keyboard and mouse is faster and more precise but for the last time the fun of a controller is that its not as fast a mouse and you have to work it and your surroundings harder to maintain edge. You guys love to bully the controller people with your speed and precision but the truth is the controller is a sentimental device and all the little halo kids who are growing up now with a controller in hand are gonna have similar feelings. One of my first memories is playing Popeye on colecovision, and i hope consoles and controllers thrive for the rest of my life even if you think they are garbage they make me and apparently the people I compete with happy and I think at the end of the day that's all that matters. I don't think any laws are being passed in the near future dictating what type of controls are to be used when playing a first person shooter so there is no need to argue mice superiority anymore.
Also dribbling can be tough as well, so let's carry the ball between the 6 foot hoops.
We get it, that many console gamers like to play casually. Just stop insisting that a gamepad is on par with a mouse for PC derived games, like RTSs and FPSs, because it's not.
Tell this to the however many thousands play it every day. Lot's of console players consider themselves more then casual and some are actually starting to get paid pretty decent money to play professionally, so I don't think you can make the claim they are not on par they are just two different categories. Maybe another poor sports analogy will help me explain what I'm getting at. Why Put the basketball hoop at 10feet when it would be a lot easier to reach at 6 or 7. And as what I meant about your surrounding's is that in a console fps the sticks don't spin you around instantly like a mouse with the sensitivity up will, so if someone sneaks up behind you on a console you have to be a little more ready then just spinning and firing. Also I'm pretty sure people that QQ about the mouse being better just hate getting ownd with the sticks. With enough practice you too could own analogous.
corked baseball bats work better too what's your point? The competition in halo is the controller, who is better at manipulating it and who is best at compensating for the slow look speed by being very aware of your surroundings. Not everyone is fond of the Unreal spray and pray run as fast as you can chaos.
I think they are trying to say they came up with a better way to run the game from the controller other then using it as a gimp mouse. As in the past playing the console version of an RTS felt very clumsy and slow. I don't see why it would be hard to believe someone getting excited over an RTS that actually put a lot of thought into the control scheme and made it fun to play on the console. A game outside the standard "box" the genre is in, will in my opinion, be a fun thing to see.
Other than the people who aren't old enough, who played Halo that didn't play Goldeneye first? I don't get that statement.
Goldeneye was the first console FPS that was a lot of fun, until your friends left of course or you had to go home. It was on the N64 so there was no online play. Halo 2 brought online competitiveness to console fps though unreal did try on the dreamcast but 56k didnt cut it =P. And for the people that think they are ruining an rts by making it controller friendly i dont know about you but WOW has destroyed my wrists and I hate to sit at my pc anylonger then I need to. Yes the mouse is faster and there are more buttons on a keyboard to bind to, but my bed and tv with the controler is where i want to be. Not having my hand and ass go numb in my chair.