That was what I was wondering, if it was in the Book of Mormon or somesuch. Thanks for the reference!:) You are right about it not necessarily being about skyscrapers any more than the "two birds flying into the arms of two brothers" Nostradamus Quattrain (or whatever it was) necessarily being a prophecy of the WTC (prophecy is a funny beast...) but it is still interesting...
Likely it was poetic language, but it does fit nicely don't you think?
In response to your sig... have you seen the Upright Citizens' Brigade sketch where the woman becomes addicted to scrapbooks and makes scrapbooks of everything from condoms to candywrappers? Funny stuff...
It would be interesting if the Mormon Prophecy predated skyscrapers. Do you have a reference? As for the legality of SCO's recent actions, I actually would question the legality of a lot of what they are doing. if they are not engaging in illegal behaviour, they are certainly walking a fine line. Even then, it would be evidence the line wants moving.
I have to agree with you w/r/t what Mormons would probably think of such things. My understanding of Mormon ethics has been that they value hard work and honesty, which is the antithesis of the current SCO.
I'm not so sure about the cows. Animal rights activists have been far mor successful geting rights for lab animals than they have for livestock. I think the Futurama hypothesis that being tasty reduces an animal's rights applies here.
Hmm. Actually Solaris and HP-UX do. My Linux box seems not to, however. It seems I misremembered the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. On Solaris,/bin is a link to/usr/bin which would mean it might not be mounted on a given boot. If you follow the FHS,/bin is supposed to be part of / and therefore this takes away the problem I stated before, and the FHS says/sbin should be things run by root only and/bin things that everyone runs. I don't think/sbin should be suid programs.. that sounds backwards to me.
Yes, mormons were killed for their religion not so long ago, in fact hunted for sport in some circles. No, that is not genocide. Genocide is trying to kill an ethnic group.
BYU is kind of an odd bird. On the one hand there is the history of being a private religious school and on the other hand they are quick to deny that they are strictly Mormon school in circles where it is important to stress academic freedom/prowess. Much like Texas A&M and their history not only as a military school but as an agricultural school, it is something they seem to be simultaneously embarrassed by and proud of depending on the situation (speaking of which, I wonder what became of those TA&M/BYU cold fusion efforts?).
Interestingly enough, notice that all of SCO's current top execs, most conspicuously those hwo are making the public threats, are BYU alumni...
Still I think it is grossly unfair to claim that Mormons are to blame as a religion for this debacle and that SCO employees are uniformly complicit in this. Firstly, I think the guy who did this was a troll, and a pretty successful one at that. Secondly, I have known a lot of mormons in my time, and they have actually been more freethinking as a rule than a lot of other groups I could think of. Thirdly, the only SCO employees who have spoken publicly and are not top execs have not only been against the current lawsuits, but have given damning evidence.
The mountains look beautiful, but all I have ever seen in Utah besides those mountains is miles and miles of barren waste, salt, etc. It might be beautiful to you, but I am more of a forest lover than that. Then again, most of what I have seen is an aerial view of SLC and the surrounding area. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will say the Mormon Temples are beautiful, though I have not had occasion to see them up close and personal.
Most (all?) unices put some kind of *sh in/sbin. The whole point of/sbin is that if / is mounted,/sbin is mounted, and the binaries there do not need to link to libraries (they are statically linked). The reason is that if you need to rescue your system you will need tools, such as a shell, and editor, etc to do so and you may not have access to other filesystems. Besides that you can't get access unless you have stuff like mount, etc...
This is probably the best explanation. I was thinking myself that it is a bad time for anyone to be looking for a job right now, much less a techie in Utah of all places.
Sorry but you are completely wrong. IBM in germany was seized by the Nazis when they took over. Yes, IBM machines were being used by the Nazis, but IBM, the American company, was not helping the Nazis whatsoever. Even a cursory examination of the evidence readily at hand reveals the truth.
In other news, world-class journalistChristiane Amanpour has announced a new SourceForge project, AmanpourOS. It will include a realtime kernel, POSIX and Win32 compatability, a full suite of GNU tools, and of course a Journalling File System called CNNFS (CNNFS is Not aNother File System).
When asked how much code she had available on her project site presently, she replied "Code? Oh, I haven't written any code, really. All I did was get a sourceforge project up and secured an OSNews interview with Eugenia Loli-Queru. But that's the power of Open Source. These geeks, for whatever reason, seem to be obsessed with me, or any girl who has anything to do with computers, really. If they will slave away for millions of man-hours for Linus, just think what motivation my leadership can provide! Why the benefits in sheer x-ray and slideshow technology alone are simply staggering!"
SCO CEO Darl McBride, however, was clearly upset over the announcement. "What Ms. Amanpour is doing here is clearly wrong, violates contracts, SCO Intellectual Property, the USAPATRIOT Act, and any sense of human decency," McBride snarled as he slammed a playbook lent him by Hillary Rosen of the RIAA down on the table. "This blatantly contradicts prior agreements we feel we had with Ms. Amanpour as set down during dinner da - I mean meetings we may or may not have had as early as ten days before she is going to say she started this project, whenever that is."
Mr. McBride then turned his attention to suing the Netherlands over a violation of SCO's ownership of the idea of windmills. "And we are still looking for this infamous pirate De La Mancha, aka, Don Quixote. I have important leads from an informant named Dulcinea who says he has been stalking her in on the internet for centuries. With her testimony and that of Sancho Panza, we should soon put an end to him." McBride rubbed his hands together with great zeal and droooled at the prospect as we slipped quietly into the night, never to return to the quiet Maryland Mental facility where he now resides.
Some sources I have found in the past said that he was misquoted or that the quote was a legend. It is still a very famous and oft-quoted er, quote.:) One of the reasons cited for this quote being false is that the Japanese meant Pearl Harbor to be a surprise attack.
But according to many many sources including IBM, IBM does not have or need a license from SCO to use/sell AIX. AIX is derived ultimately from the Unix code, and needs a license to be called unix, but the rights to the UNix code are from Novell and the rights to call AIX Unix come from the Open Group. In fact I would say that at this stage of the game it would be difficult to say whether even novell or the Open Group would have any kind of right to stop the distribution of AIX. Presumably most of AIX is 100% IBM IP and anything which was not could be changed if it was really deemed necessary.
No matter what, the company now known as SCO never had any agreements with IBM whatsoever, unless perhaps they bought some software from IBM. Ultimately they have tried to use legal tricks and fiat to claim the rights over vast amounts of IP they have 0 claim to (every form of Linux and Unix) and it is not working so far.
IBM is used to being sued by loudmouth idiots and usually do not rise to the bait (for instance recall the people that were trying to claim IBM supported the Nazis during WWII even though they were actively supporting the allies by manufacturing arms and providing computing services, etc.). They have lasted this long by being careful what they say and do and maintaining their serious reputation. They will easily weather this FUDfest.
Of course if a person does not like this, they can rip it out/ put it back in as it pleases them, since it is Free Software. This is not possible with Windows.
So qnx is useful in high school programming courses, or at least was in 1986. But the guy who actually tried to do real work with it knows nothing? I don't think he was trying to speak to its viability as a teaching tool, but rather to its viability as a platform for real products in the real world...
Not sure about that, but no matter the kernel, last I checked ntfs writes were "experimental! dangerous! WILL fuck up your system!" on any linux kernel. Reading works reasonably most of the time, though I still have trouble because of characters used in filenames that don't translate (damn you "smart quotes and smart apostrophes!" Damn you!) and therefore become ? which screws up ls, tar, and pretty much anything else. (And of course, writes are required to change a filename:P ).
Anyway, so yes ntfs support is there and I have used it to get data off of ntfs and onto a more reasonable filesystem, but it's not what it could be...
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That was what I was wondering, if it was in the Book of Mormon or somesuch. Thanks for the reference! :)
You are right about it not necessarily being about skyscrapers any more than the "two birds flying into the arms of two brothers" Nostradamus Quattrain (or whatever it was) necessarily being a prophecy of the WTC (prophecy is a funny beast...) but it is still interesting...
Likely it was poetic language, but it does fit nicely don't you think?
In response to your sig... have you seen the Upright Citizens' Brigade sketch where the woman becomes addicted to scrapbooks and makes scrapbooks of everything from condoms to candywrappers? Funny stuff...
It would be interesting if the Mormon Prophecy predated skyscrapers. Do you have a reference? As for the legality of SCO's recent actions, I actually would question the legality of a lot of what they are doing. if they are not engaging in illegal behaviour, they are certainly walking a fine line. Even then, it would be evidence the line wants moving.
I have to agree with you w/r/t what Mormons would probably think of such things. My understanding of Mormon ethics has been that they value hard work and honesty, which is the antithesis of the current SCO.
I'm not so sure about the cows. Animal rights activists have been far mor successful geting rights for lab animals than they have for livestock. I think the Futurama hypothesis that being tasty reduces an animal's rights applies here.
If you have proof of this, feel free to provide links.
That is grossly unfair to the keyboard. Maybe they should use a suitably large, old, overheating RS6000 box.
Hmm. Actually Solaris and HP-UX do. My Linux box seems not to, however. It seems I misremembered the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. On Solaris, /bin is a link to /usr/bin which would mean it might not be mounted on a given boot. If you follow the FHS, /bin is supposed to be part of / and therefore this takes away the problem I stated before, and the FHS says /sbin should be things run by root only and /bin things that everyone runs. I don't think /sbin should be suid programs.. that sounds backwards to me.
I doubt any employee of SCO is under the delusion that Darl McBride is a prophet...
Don't give him ideas, man! :)
Yes, mormons were killed for their religion not so long ago, in fact hunted for sport in some circles. No, that is not genocide. Genocide is trying to kill an ethnic group.
BYU is kind of an odd bird. On the one hand there is the history of being a private religious school and on the other hand they are quick to deny that they are strictly Mormon school in circles where it is important to stress academic freedom/prowess. Much like Texas A&M and their history not only as a military school but as an agricultural school, it is something they seem to be simultaneously embarrassed by and proud of depending on the situation (speaking of which, I wonder what became of those TA&M/BYU cold fusion efforts?).
Interestingly enough, notice that all of SCO's current top execs, most conspicuously those hwo are making the public threats, are BYU alumni...
Still I think it is grossly unfair to claim that Mormons are to blame as a religion for this debacle and that SCO employees are uniformly complicit in this. Firstly, I think the guy who did this was a troll, and a pretty successful one at that. Secondly, I have known a lot of mormons in my time, and they have actually been more freethinking as a rule than a lot of other groups I could think of. Thirdly, the only SCO employees who have spoken publicly and are not top execs have not only been against the current lawsuits, but have given damning evidence.
The mountains look beautiful, but all I have ever seen in Utah besides those mountains is miles and miles of barren waste, salt, etc. It might be beautiful to you, but I am more of a forest lover than that. Then again, most of what I have seen is an aerial view of SLC and the surrounding area. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will say the Mormon Temples are beautiful, though I have not had occasion to see them up close and personal.
Most (all?) unices put some kind of *sh in /sbin. The whole point of /sbin is that if / is mounted, /sbin is mounted, and the binaries there do not need to link to libraries (they are statically linked). The reason is that if you need to rescue your system you will need tools, such as a shell, and editor, etc to do so and you may not have access to other filesystems. Besides that you can't get access unless you have stuff like mount, etc...
That is because Open Source software is Terrorism. Never mind that Al Qaeda use pirated windows rather than learn to use Linux.
This is probably the best explanation. I was thinking myself that it is a bad time for anyone to be looking for a job right now, much less a techie in Utah of all places.
Still much better than the $0.60 it was worth before they started this business.
Sorry but you are completely wrong. IBM in germany was seized by the Nazis when they took over. Yes, IBM machines were being used by the Nazis, but IBM, the American company, was not helping the Nazis whatsoever. Even a cursory examination of the evidence readily at hand reveals the truth.
In other news, world-class journalistChristiane Amanpour has announced a new SourceForge project, AmanpourOS. It will include a realtime kernel, POSIX and Win32 compatability, a full suite of GNU tools, and of course a Journalling File System called CNNFS (CNNFS is Not aNother File System).
When asked how much code she had available on her project site presently, she replied "Code? Oh, I haven't written any code, really. All I did was get a sourceforge project up and secured an OSNews interview with Eugenia Loli-Queru. But that's the power of Open Source. These geeks, for whatever reason, seem to be obsessed with me, or any girl who has anything to do with computers, really. If they will slave away for millions of man-hours for Linus, just think what motivation my leadership can provide! Why the benefits in sheer x-ray and slideshow technology alone are simply staggering!"
SCO CEO Darl McBride, however, was clearly upset over the announcement. "What Ms. Amanpour is doing here is clearly wrong, violates contracts, SCO Intellectual Property, the USAPATRIOT Act, and any sense of human decency," McBride snarled as he slammed a playbook lent him by Hillary Rosen of the RIAA down on the table. "This blatantly contradicts prior agreements we feel we had with Ms. Amanpour as set down during dinner da - I mean meetings we may or may not have had as early as ten days before she is going to say she started this project, whenever that is."
Mr. McBride then turned his attention to suing the Netherlands over a violation of SCO's ownership of the idea of windmills. "And we are still looking for this infamous pirate De La Mancha, aka, Don Quixote. I have important leads from an informant named Dulcinea who says he has been stalking her in on the internet for centuries. With her testimony and that of Sancho Panza, we should soon put an end to him." McBride rubbed his hands together with great zeal and droooled at the prospect as we slipped quietly into the night, never to return to the quiet Maryland Mental facility where he now resides.
Legend (and the movie "Tora! Tora! Tora!") has it that after realizing that the bombing of Pearl Harbor was a surprise to Americans Admiral Yamamoto said, "I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve."
Some sources I have found in the past said that he was misquoted or that the quote was a legend. It is still a very famous and oft-quoted er, quote. :) One of the reasons cited for this quote being false is that the Japanese meant Pearl Harbor to be a surprise attack.
But according to many many sources including IBM, IBM does not have or need a license from SCO to use/sell AIX. AIX is derived ultimately from the Unix code, and needs a license to be called unix, but the rights to the UNix code are from Novell and the rights to call AIX Unix come from the Open Group. In fact I would say that at this stage of the game it would be difficult to say whether even novell or the Open Group would have any kind of right to stop the distribution of AIX. Presumably most of AIX is 100% IBM IP and anything which was not could be changed if it was really deemed necessary.
No matter what, the company now known as SCO never had any agreements with IBM whatsoever, unless perhaps they bought some software from IBM. Ultimately they have tried to use legal tricks and fiat to claim the rights over vast amounts of IP they have 0 claim to (every form of Linux and Unix) and it is not working so far.
IBM is used to being sued by loudmouth idiots and usually do not rise to the bait (for instance recall the people that were trying to claim IBM supported the Nazis during WWII even though they were actively supporting the allies by manufacturing arms and providing computing services, etc.). They have lasted this long by being careful what they say and do and maintaining their serious reputation. They will easily weather this FUDfest.
BUt since the LInux printouts are from the lkml, there would have been dates, since all emails have timestamps.
Then they found that step 2 was IPO, never made it to step 3 (Profit), and.. oh damn I am getting South Park confused with a .Com.. :P
Of course if a person does not like this, they can rip it out/ put it back in as it pleases them, since it is Free Software. This is not possible with Windows.
Here you go, computers designed by Microsoft not to run Linux.
So qnx is useful in high school programming courses, or at least was in 1986. But the guy who actually tried to do real work with it knows nothing? I don't think he was trying to speak to its viability as a teaching tool, but rather to its viability as a platform for real products in the real world...
Not sure about that, but no matter the kernel, last I checked ntfs writes were "experimental! dangerous! WILL fuck up your system!" on any linux kernel. Reading works reasonably most of the time, though I still have trouble because of characters used in filenames that don't translate (damn you "smart quotes and smart apostrophes!" Damn you!) and therefore become ? which screws up ls, tar, and pretty much anything else. (And of course, writes are required to change a filename :P ).
Anyway, so yes ntfs support is there and I have used it to get data off of ntfs and onto a more reasonable filesystem, but it's not what it could be...