winning in court isnt about being right, its about how long you can afford to stay in there... why do you think MS get away with so much? the world sucks doesnt it... always greed over morals
i know its slightly off subject... but how come so many people "Linux ports" are simply java? sorrie just something that was anoying me, i`ll go back into my hole now
MS can use almost any Linux lib wihtout having to GPL or open source the code they make, the LGPL has really taken away the best bits of the GPL that stoped copmanys like this doing what MS must plan to do... what i see coming is Linux core with a ton of MS extensions to run windows apps etc and things like office only working on the MS version of Linux... sad really.. we need more pure GPL
>I mean come on, it's a Windows app. Point >and click. It's not like you're having to edit a >.mswordrc file.
give me a.mswordrc anyday, at least then i only need to cp one file if i want to take my settings to another computer... not to mention the way MS Office (and more genrally windows) stores too many settings by computer instead of by user.
~ is where settings that affect how a user works belong.
it may have not come to your attention that geeks are simply a super class of people (;
i agree with some of the others who commented to this that i wont be going anywhere near the MS Office suit, on or off Linux.
>it doesn't matter whether MS Office is bloated or >not, people need it anyway.
hmm people need it? the bloat? people need to write in word processors equals true, people need to have things installed on the hard disk they will never use? false. bloatware is not needed, the "someone somewhere will need it so lets put it in" doenst work, with open source the people who need it can add it or get another too or jsut find someone who has if your not a "geek", why should i have the html extensions in a word processor when i dont want to use them? or have a pile of clipart i never use, or what about the other functions i not found yet? will i use them? no
people do not need bloatware and people do not need microsoft.
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this is the same idea i see ms having... i also see them haivng the winapi in these secreate libs, so that MS Linux and only MS Linux can run windows applications.
btw i know about wine etc, just MS have the api (including the undocumented ones) and could get things "working" as "good" as windows...
it simply has to have some extra reson for even considering office for Linux... abusing its strong hold on the mainstream OS market is how it does everything, esp Office. rember ppl will buy crap of MS and think the bugs are features!
MS Office for Linux, its still clear that all these companys dont understand the greater movment which Linux is a part of. The greatest thing about Linux is that your not tied down to any one company, the fate of your company does not relly on when busnesses like MS release the bug fixes, how unstable is Office under windows? and windows contains a large portion of hidden api calls just for office and MS apps... are we really going to accept this sort of instablity? is the Linux world really going to give up the freedom from monoplys we have? I have nothing against MS, but unless them, and the others like them, change to fit our world, i for one will not be changing for theres, bloatware has a place, but its not here.
GNU, BSD its not about handouts. Why do you supose so many people spend there time writing Linux/applications for Linux? They aint all Richard Stallman. Infact if Linux was just about Linuxs and Richard then we would be nowhere. Stallman has an ideal, and hes willing to sacrifce a cosy life for it, i wish more of us were like that.
Linux/*BSD are more of a community than anything else. It works, infact even relies on the good nature of the community members. I`m not totally against the suits, they have some good (somewhere) but they need to realises that it is them that have to addapt to the situation. They are trying to rewrite the community, its not going to happen, the sooner they realise this the better.
True we all need to eat, its a shame the world is built upon greed that makes money esentuial. But Linux isnt built on that. And if the day ever comes that greed runs Linux the way it runs the "Windows world" and the real world itself is the day the community will go elsewhere.
Sure some people use these operating systems for price and techincal merits, but let us not forget the underlying principles that brings these about.
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winning in court isnt about being right, its about how long you can afford to stay in there... why do you think MS get away with so much? the world sucks doesnt it... always greed over morals
i know its slightly off subject... but how come so many people "Linux ports" are simply java?
sorrie just something that was anoying me, i`ll go back into my hole now
MS can use almost any Linux lib wihtout having to GPL or open source the code they make, the LGPL has really taken away the best bits of the GPL that stoped copmanys like this doing what MS must plan to do... what i see coming is Linux core with a ton of MS extensions to run windows apps etc and things like office only working on the MS version of Linux... sad really.. we need more pure GPL
>I mean come on, it's a Windows app. Point
.mswordrc anyday, at least then i only need to cp one file if i want to take my settings to another computer... not to mention the way MS Office (and more genrally windows) stores too many settings by computer instead of by user.
>and click. It's not like you're having to edit a
>.mswordrc file.
give me a
~ is where settings that affect how a user works belong.
it may have not come to your attention that geeks are simply a super class of people (;
i agree with some of the others who commented to this that i wont be going anywhere near the MS Office suit, on or off Linux.
>it doesn't matter whether MS Office is bloated or
>not, people need it anyway.
hmm people need it? the bloat? people need to write in word processors equals true, people need to have things installed on the hard disk they will never use? false. bloatware is not needed, the "someone somewhere will need it so lets put it in" doenst work, with open source the people who need it can add it or get another too or jsut find someone who has if your not a "geek", why should i have the html extensions in a word processor when i dont want to use them? or have a pile of clipart i never use, or what about the other functions i not found yet? will i use them? no
people do not need bloatware and people do not need microsoft.
this is the same idea i see ms having... i also see them haivng the winapi in these secreate libs, so that MS Linux and only MS Linux can run windows applications.
btw i know about wine etc, just MS have the api (including the undocumented ones) and could get things "working" as "good" as windows...
it simply has to have some extra reson for even considering office for Linux... abusing its strong hold on the mainstream OS market is how it does everything, esp Office. rember ppl will buy crap of MS and think the bugs are features!
MS Office for Linux, its still clear that all these companys dont understand the greater movment which Linux is a part of. The greatest thing about Linux is that your not tied down to any one company, the fate of your company does not relly on when busnesses like MS release the bug fixes, how unstable is Office under windows? and windows contains a large portion of hidden api calls just for office and MS apps... are we really going to accept this sort of instablity? is the Linux world really going to give up the freedom from monoplys we have? I have nothing against MS, but unless them, and the others like them, change to fit our world, i for one will not be changing for theres, bloatware has a place, but its not here.
GNU, BSD its not about handouts.
Why do you supose so many people spend there time writing Linux/applications for Linux? They aint all Richard Stallman. Infact if Linux was just about Linuxs and Richard then we would be nowhere.
Stallman has an ideal, and hes willing to sacrifce a cosy life for it, i wish more of us were like that.
Linux/*BSD are more of a community than anything else. It works, infact even relies on the good nature of the community members. I`m not totally against the suits, they have some good (somewhere) but they need to realises that it is them that have to addapt to the situation. They are trying to rewrite the community, its not going to happen, the sooner they realise this the better.
True we all need to eat, its a shame the world is built upon greed that makes money esentuial. But Linux isnt built on that. And if the day ever comes that greed runs Linux the way it runs the "Windows world" and the real world itself is the day the community will go elsewhere.
Sure some people use these operating systems for price and techincal merits, but let us not forget the underlying principles that brings these about.
Linux is Freedom, the suits cant take that.
i`m setting up a site not too disimalar to wat you must be planing on. i looked over a couple of carts but found this one the best:
http://www.minivend.com/iri/mvend.html
Scott (vpp)