Wrong. Windows is not easy, its familiar which is not the same thing at all. There are no training issues with moving to Linux in any case because corporates would just do the same as they do with Windows - don't provide any training. I never went on an Office training course, I had to figure it all out myself. Windows' success on the desktop is down ubiquity and Win32 only apps.
Dynamics CRM yesterday gave me an error message "An unexpected error has occurred". The tracing gave me a stack trace of the internal Dynamics process that failed, followed by "An unexpected error has occurred". I have no idea how I'm supposed to solve this one since I have neither the source for CRM nor psychic powers.
You're probably talking to someone who loves all that shit. I'm a former mainframe programmer and even we had screen designers back in the late 80s, early 90s. However the Unix neckbeards round here seem to think that computers aren't for making people's lives easier.
Really? What are they replacing ASP.NET with? Why haven't they announced this ASP.NET replacement yet? Last time I checked IIS didn't execute HTML 5 and Javascript on the server so that will need to be reworked quite a lot, and they'll also need to completely rewrite Sharepoint, Dynamics CRM, Visual Studio and probably other apps as well. Seems like a lot of work for no benefit. Of course you could just be talking out of your arse.
You are now about to be bombarded with people calling you an idiot just because Linux suits their narrow needs and they're quite happy to spend ages fucking about with it. I once listed five different applications I'd used in different places as examples of why people still use Windows and the moron said "why are you only talking about edge cases?"
No-one is happy being condescended to and it never helps people to learn. That's one of the reasons why people struggle to learn IT skills, because of dicks like you treating them like shit. Now fuck off.
That would require me to install the centralized control update which I have the choice not to install. Plus there's nothing stopping me putting Linux on here, I just have better things to do with my time than fight with incomplete software.
A little time? For someone to whom tech comes easily maybe. Would you be happy being condescended to by someone who finds something easy that you don't?
:Give it another year. With Windows 8 for ARM systems it's inevitable that we'll see more powerful devices spill into the low-power segment between tablet transformers and netbooks/subnotebooks.
Yes I did and I don't see any reason why Windows 8 for ARM would make any difference given that there's zero advantage to owning one over an iPad or an Android tablet. Hence my comment about software availability.
It's not even the bad UI decisions, it's just that everything seems to be so much harder in Linux than it used to be, and this is coming from someone who used to be happy to compile kernels. Perhaps I'm just older and less tolerant of things wasting my time now. As an example, the trackpad on my netbook can't be relied on to work. For god's sake that tech has been around for at least 15 years. It worked fine in 1998. In 2012 I shouldn't need to worry about it at all never mind submit a bug report, dig through some truly useless error messages or learn C++.
I'm the same. I now have a Mac because Linux is way more hassle than I can be bothered with, and I used to use it a lot from 1998 onwards, when Windows sucked so badly that a concerted effort from the community could have seriously troubled Windows 98. Sadly there was more emphasis on competition and not enough on cooperation. Now it's just getting worse all the time with bad UI decisions and drivers that break from upgrade to upgrade.
For servers Linux is great because they don't need to support as much software and hardware and the UI is largely irrelevant. For desktops, don't waste your time unless you have a lot of it and don't have anything better to do.
Yeh my 8 year old Ford Focus is really a fashion statement compared to a chromed up Harley alike or a plastic covered Jap racer. DISCLAIMER I used to own a race bike. It was largely a toy.
What is the advantage to relearning it all. Learning how to use a computer is a useful skill. Having to relearn how to use Windows or Office every time Microsoft have a brainfart is not advantageous it is annoying.
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You have never worked in a large private organisation if you actually believe that.
Wrong. The private sector has magical free market fairy dust that makes it a bazillion times more efficient than the government could ever be.
So Windows is a PoS on PoS?
Really? The big icons at the bottom of the screen don't give a clue as to where to start?
Wrong. Windows is not easy, its familiar which is not the same thing at all. There are no training issues with moving to Linux in any case because corporates would just do the same as they do with Windows - don't provide any training. I never went on an Office training course, I had to figure it all out myself. Windows' success on the desktop is down ubiquity and Win32 only apps.
Dynamics CRM yesterday gave me an error message "An unexpected error has occurred". The tracing gave me a stack trace of the internal Dynamics process that failed, followed by "An unexpected error has occurred". I have no idea how I'm supposed to solve this one since I have neither the source for CRM nor psychic powers.
You're probably talking to someone who loves all that shit. I'm a former mainframe programmer and even we had screen designers back in the late 80s, early 90s. However the Unix neckbeards round here seem to think that computers aren't for making people's lives easier.
Not for the rest of us.
Really? What are they replacing ASP.NET with? Why haven't they announced this ASP.NET replacement yet? Last time I checked IIS didn't execute HTML 5 and Javascript on the server so that will need to be reworked quite a lot, and they'll also need to completely rewrite Sharepoint, Dynamics CRM, Visual Studio and probably other apps as well. Seems like a lot of work for no benefit. Of course you could just be talking out of your arse.
You are now about to be bombarded with people calling you an idiot just because Linux suits their narrow needs and they're quite happy to spend ages fucking about with it. I once listed five different applications I'd used in different places as examples of why people still use Windows and the moron said "why are you only talking about edge cases?"
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And you are a liar and a wanker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanker
No-one is happy being condescended to and it never helps people to learn. That's one of the reasons why people struggle to learn IT skills, because of dicks like you treating them like shit. Now fuck off.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Fuck_Off
That would require me to install the centralized control update which I have the choice not to install. Plus there's nothing stopping me putting Linux on here, I just have better things to do with my time than fight with incomplete software.
You're an idiot.
Posted from my Galaxy S2 using Firefox.
Until it does something unexpected and there are a million different non-working answers on Google. That's why I'm typing this on a Mac.
A little time? For someone to whom tech comes easily maybe. Would you be happy being condescended to by someone who finds something easy that you don't?
Undemocratic except for the elected MEPs that is.
Microsoft's lobbying appears to have failed spectacularly then.
Go away.
Yes I did and I don't see any reason why Windows 8 for ARM would make any difference given that there's zero advantage to owning one over an iPad or an Android tablet. Hence my comment about software availability.
It's not even the bad UI decisions, it's just that everything seems to be so much harder in Linux than it used to be, and this is coming from someone who used to be happy to compile kernels. Perhaps I'm just older and less tolerant of things wasting my time now. As an example, the trackpad on my netbook can't be relied on to work. For god's sake that tech has been around for at least 15 years. It worked fine in 1998. In 2012 I shouldn't need to worry about it at all never mind submit a bug report, dig through some truly useless error messages or learn C++.
I'm the same. I now have a Mac because Linux is way more hassle than I can be bothered with, and I used to use it a lot from 1998 onwards, when Windows sucked so badly that a concerted effort from the community could have seriously troubled Windows 98. Sadly there was more emphasis on competition and not enough on cooperation. Now it's just getting worse all the time with bad UI decisions and drivers that break from upgrade to upgrade.
For servers Linux is great because they don't need to support as much software and hardware and the UI is largely irrelevant. For desktops, don't waste your time unless you have a lot of it and don't have anything better to do.
Windows 8 ARM doesn't run Windows x86 executables so why would that make any difference?
Yeh my 8 year old Ford Focus is really a fashion statement compared to a chromed up Harley alike or a plastic covered Jap racer. DISCLAIMER I used to own a race bike. It was largely a toy.
What is the advantage to relearning it all. Learning how to use a computer is a useful skill. Having to relearn how to use Windows or Office every time Microsoft have a brainfart is not advantageous it is annoying.