Funny how in both respects you applied Socrates ethical rule of egoism:
An act is wrong if it creates a negative balance of consequences for the agent, and act is right if it creates a positive balance of consequences for the agent. I suppose in the way I asked the question that was really the only way to answer it.
Having read Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, and the coda written by Bradbury that followed, I feel that he probably would not mind too awful much as long as his books were not censored in any way shape or form. Fahrenheit 451 was more about the censorship of these books than the actual non-existance of paper books. Personally, I don't like staring at a screen all day, but I do love to read books. I think something is going to be lost if we start curling next to the fire with a blanket, glass of YO-J and our palm pilots to read my old Dr. Seuss books. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Morals are just words in a book somebody has elevated to the status of an idol. Ethics are real-world ways to solve real-world problems with a minimum of pain.
You have some gread ideas and insight here, my question would be:
Why does it seem that all human beings, wether they be skin-head nazis in the big cities of the US or the simple tribes in Paupa New Guinea, we all have the same "core" morals/ethics. Why do we all see it as wrong to kill and why do we all (for the most part I'll grant you) see it as wrong to be in polygomous relationships. Those who tell you they don't see polygomous relationships as wrong (Mormans) are usually saying so not because of true moral beliefs, but mostly to excuse their own desires. Social Conditioning is not an acceptable answer, for why would we all have basicly the "same" social conditioning?
I think what one needs to do when posing themselves with this question, is ask the one they are inovled with. More often than not, I believe your significant other would have a problem with you having "cyber-sex" or whatever they call it these days. If they don't have a problem with it, then you had better wonder if they are beginning to look elsewhere.
I know my wife would believe that I am cheating on her if I was to have virtual sex, and I would think the same. I know that nothing physically is happening, but I don't want my wife thinking about another man.
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I have been trying to hit their site for the last 5 minutes and have nothing but a black screen. It seems they need to work on this. Either that or they didn't plan on 1 million Slashdot users hitting their site at the same time.
Does anyone know where I can buy me one of those NEAR things? That seems fun!!! In all seriousness though, it is pretty cool that we can do all of this stuff. Does anyone know what OS their software is running on?
I think that this is necessary if the open source community expects to be a major player in the business world. The "managers" of most companies (you know them, the old guys in suits who always forget your name) don't really care what's running their e-mail/project/calandering/whaever software, they just want it to do what they need, and they want to pay as little as possible for it. Until this project is finished, we have nothing. I know that you will want to come back with "What about the places where Linux is used like web servers and the such. Remeber, this is a discussion about Group Ware. I have heard of no international company that is using sendmail because it's more stable. They all want Exchange/GroupWise/Notes because they offer the functionality businesses want. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wron Copyright Dennis Miller)
Like I said, I run Outlook and I have no problems with it. I know what to look for though. It's the uneducated or foolish users that make the job of an internal IS person horrible but gives the unexperienced hacker something to boast about. I guess it depends on your point of view.
Pine is the Yugo. Yeah, it can get you from home to work but there isn't much dignity along the way. The Concorde, on the other hand, might burst into flames every few years but there is no more enjoyable way to travel.
It isn't a question fo wether or not the Concorde will burst into flames, but that the security around it is so piss poor, anyone could attach and explosive to it and blow it up at will.
I think I have to agree with you, unless, (and I am not a programmer here) they can do it in a secure manner. I really don't see how that's possible though I doubt M$ has ever tried.
Actually, I run outlook currently. It's an unfortunate company policy. Any moron (I'm sure even yourself) can write a VB Script that can be opened in outlook and kill your hard drive. Try writing one for pine.
I would love to see a piece of software that could replace the bug-riddled Outlook/Exchange/IE/whatver_else_exisist_on_your_c omputer. If they can pull this off while keeping it secure from the most novice of hackers, I will definitley be into it.
I agree with you 100% when it comes to mobile devices and if Maxtor (or anyone else) can come up with a HDD or other components that can be used in such environments and lessen the frequency of failure, then that would be great. Doubt I'll be hanging onto a cliff by 3 fingers anytime soon though.:-)
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So, with longer spikes, could something similar to this be used for capital punishment?
Maybe it's just my lack of experince in the real world, but how many times, in all honesty, have you had a hard drive crash on you? With today's technology in back-ups and the such, it just doesn't seem to me that this needs to be an issue. I have been in the Computer/Network racket for about 3 years now, and I have only had two hard drives crash hard on me. One was on a RAID 5 server, so it didn't matter. I just think that this is a waste of time for the "Unsinkable Hardrive". Let's call it Titantic and watch her dive on her maiden voyage. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. (copyright Dennis Miller)
"The fact that Microsoft's stock price has dropped from a high of $120 per share in December of 1999 to around $58 per share today is a pretty good indicator of a company on the ropes, if not dying"
What does it say for Red Hat going from somewhere around $140 a share to the $7-$8 a share today? Not picking a fight or anything, cuz I am an RHCE myself and love the product, just found it interesting.
I think, and this is only my opinion, that the problem with trying to make money off Open Source is that the people who actually use it know how and don't need to pay the money for the support that RedHat, TurboLinux, and others are trying to sell. If you can't figure it out, post it on a local LUG and someone can walk you through it. They need to find a better scheme, similar to Cobalt. Just my opinion you understand...
Have you not recognized the difference between smartness and wisdom? Wisdom comes with experience, experience comes with age. Please tell me that you have at least learned that bit of information. I could never expect, at 25 with 3-4 years experince in any field, to be as wise in my profession as someone who is in their 40's with 10-15 years experience. THAT'S WHY THEY GET PAID MORE NUMBNUTS!!! I don't by any means believe that someone 17-25 cannot be "smart". My younger brother is one of the smartest people I know and he is only 22. However, lacking experience in life, business, and his field, his is not yet wise.
It is obvious that you just haven't hit the maturity level at this point in your life to realize that you don't know the best solution in every case. If you haven't gotten any smarter since you were 18 the one of two things is true, you are 19, or you are too proud to admit that you may have something to learn from someone else. Get a job, a life, grow up a little, and then write me back. I imagine I will never hear from you...
While this varies from company to company, for the most part, the "Upper Management" has put in a lot of time and a lot of effort for the company to get where it is. I'm sure they will come to you for questions in a technical matter, but when it comes to running a business, younger people (including myself) are better served to sit at the table and pay attention, listen, and offer advice when asked an opinion. The more you learn at the meeting table, the more you will have to offer. In all honesty, in most situations, someone who is 17-30 will not have the experience on the business end of the company to offer great advice. Just my opinon, i could be wrong.
"Microsoft's Miller also took a shot at one of Linux's strongholds: servers. Miller claimed that recently released numbers from IDC System Software Research show that "Linux growth in server OS share has been flat for two quarters, and Unix and Novell continue to fall."
Take a look at IDC's web site (www.idc.com) and you will notice that they are part of www.idg.com. In looking into what they do, in their training alone, everything is Microsoft. I think that Mr. Miller should try to use a more neutral research organization if he plans for his statements to hold any water.
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Funny how in both respects you applied Socrates ethical rule of egoism:
An act is wrong if it creates a negative balance of consequences for the agent, and act is right if it creates a positive balance of consequences for the agent. I suppose in the way I asked the question that was really the only way to answer it.
Having read Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, and the coda written by Bradbury that followed, I feel that he probably would not mind too awful much as long as his books were not censored in any way shape or form. Fahrenheit 451 was more about the censorship of these books than the actual non-existance of paper books. Personally, I don't like staring at a screen all day, but I do love to read books. I think something is going to be lost if we start curling next to the fire with a blanket, glass of YO-J and our palm pilots to read my old Dr. Seuss books. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Morals are just words in a book somebody has elevated to the status of an idol. Ethics are real-world ways to solve real-world problems with a minimum of pain.
You have some gread ideas and insight here, my question would be:
Why does it seem that all human beings, wether they be skin-head nazis in the big cities of the US or the simple tribes in Paupa New Guinea, we all have the same "core" morals/ethics. Why do we all see it as wrong to kill and why do we all (for the most part I'll grant you) see it as wrong to be in polygomous relationships. Those who tell you they don't see polygomous relationships as wrong (Mormans) are usually saying so not because of true moral beliefs, but mostly to excuse their own desires. Social Conditioning is not an acceptable answer, for why would we all have basicly the "same" social conditioning?
Just curious on your thoughts.
I think what one needs to do when posing themselves with this question, is ask the one they are inovled with. More often than not, I believe your significant other would have a problem with you having "cyber-sex" or whatever they call it these days. If they don't have a problem with it, then you had better wonder if they are beginning to look elsewhere.
I know my wife would believe that I am cheating on her if I was to have virtual sex, and I would think the same. I know that nothing physically is happening, but I don't want my wife thinking about another man.
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
What would you be doing with a laptop that would need that sort of requirement? Not being antagonistic here, genuinely curious.
I have been trying to hit their site for the last 5 minutes and have nothing but a black screen. It seems they need to work on this. Either that or they didn't plan on 1 million Slashdot users hitting their site at the same time.
Does anyone know where I can buy me one of those NEAR things? That seems fun!!! In all seriousness though, it is pretty cool that we can do all of this stuff. Does anyone know what OS their software is running on?
I think that this is necessary if the open source community expects to be a major player in the business world. The "managers" of most companies (you know them, the old guys in suits who always forget your name) don't really care what's running their e-mail/project/calandering/whaever software, they just want it to do what they need, and they want to pay as little as possible for it. Until this project is finished, we have nothing. I know that you will want to come back with "What about the places where Linux is used like web servers and the such. Remeber, this is a discussion about Group Ware. I have heard of no international company that is using sendmail because it's more stable. They all want Exchange/GroupWise/Notes because they offer the functionality businesses want. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wron Copyright Dennis Miller)
Like I said, I run Outlook and I have no problems with it. I know what to look for though. It's the uneducated or foolish users that make the job of an internal IS person horrible but gives the unexperienced hacker something to boast about. I guess it depends on your point of view.
Pine is the Yugo. Yeah, it can get you from home to work but there isn't much dignity along the way. The Concorde, on the other hand, might burst into flames every few years but there is no more enjoyable way to travel.
It isn't a question fo wether or not the Concorde will burst into flames, but that the security around it is so piss poor, anyone could attach and explosive to it and blow it up at will.
I think I have to agree with you, unless, (and I am not a programmer here) they can do it in a secure manner. I really don't see how that's possible though I doubt M$ has ever tried.
Actually, I run outlook currently. It's an unfortunate company policy. Any moron (I'm sure even yourself) can write a VB Script that can be opened in outlook and kill your hard drive. Try writing one for pine.
I would love to see a piece of software that could replace the bug-riddled Outlook/Exchange/IE/whatver_else_exisist_on_your_c omputer. If they can pull this off while keeping it secure from the most novice of hackers, I will definitley be into it.
I agree with you 100% when it comes to mobile devices and if Maxtor (or anyone else) can come up with a HDD or other components that can be used in such environments and lessen the frequency of failure, then that would be great. Doubt I'll be hanging onto a cliff by 3 fingers anytime soon though. :-)
So, with longer spikes, could something similar to this be used for capital punishment?
Well, I don't deal with the HDD's anymore, just Cisco, but don't worry, I don't plan on tempting fate anytime soon. Thanks for the input.
Like I said, it could be my lack of experience in the field, and I am willing to admit that. Sorry to hear that you have lost so many though.
Maybe it's just my lack of experince in the real world, but how many times, in all honesty, have you had a hard drive crash on you? With today's technology in back-ups and the such, it just doesn't seem to me that this needs to be an issue. I have been in the Computer/Network racket for about 3 years now, and I have only had two hard drives crash hard on me. One was on a RAID 5 server, so it didn't matter. I just think that this is a waste of time for the "Unsinkable Hardrive". Let's call it Titantic and watch her dive on her maiden voyage. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. (copyright Dennis Miller)
"The fact that Microsoft's stock price has dropped from a high of $120 per share in December of 1999 to around $58 per share today is a pretty good indicator of a company on the ropes, if not dying" What does it say for Red Hat going from somewhere around $140 a share to the $7-$8 a share today? Not picking a fight or anything, cuz I am an RHCE myself and love the product, just found it interesting.
I think, and this is only my opinion, that the problem with trying to make money off Open Source is that the people who actually use it know how and don't need to pay the money for the support that RedHat, TurboLinux, and others are trying to sell. If you can't figure it out, post it on a local LUG and someone can walk you through it. They need to find a better scheme, similar to Cobalt. Just my opinion you understand...
Have you not recognized the difference between smartness and wisdom? Wisdom comes with experience, experience comes with age. Please tell me that you have at least learned that bit of information. I could never expect, at 25 with 3-4 years experince in any field, to be as wise in my profession as someone who is in their 40's with 10-15 years experience. THAT'S WHY THEY GET PAID MORE NUMBNUTS!!! I don't by any means believe that someone 17-25 cannot be "smart". My younger brother is one of the smartest people I know and he is only 22. However, lacking experience in life, business, and his field, his is not yet wise.
It is obvious that you just haven't hit the maturity level at this point in your life to realize that you don't know the best solution in every case. If you haven't gotten any smarter since you were 18 the one of two things is true, you are 19, or you are too proud to admit that you may have something to learn from someone else. Get a job, a life, grow up a little, and then write me back. I imagine I will never hear from you...
While this varies from company to company, for the most part, the "Upper Management" has put in a lot of time and a lot of effort for the company to get where it is. I'm sure they will come to you for questions in a technical matter, but when it comes to running a business, younger people (including myself) are better served to sit at the table and pay attention, listen, and offer advice when asked an opinion. The more you learn at the meeting table, the more you will have to offer. In all honesty, in most situations, someone who is 17-30 will not have the experience on the business end of the company to offer great advice. Just my opinon, i could be wrong.
"Microsoft's Miller also took a shot at one of Linux's strongholds: servers. Miller claimed that recently released numbers from IDC System Software Research show that "Linux growth in server OS share has been flat for two quarters, and Unix and Novell continue to fall." Take a look at IDC's web site (www.idc.com) and you will notice that they are part of www.idg.com. In looking into what they do, in their training alone, everything is Microsoft. I think that Mr. Miller should try to use a more neutral research organization if he plans for his statements to hold any water.