Good point. I suppose you could make the case he is a "significant flight risk" but 200,000 seems a bit excessive given the fine. Maybe up to ten times the fine cost would have been appropriate, with closer to ten getting unreasonable but tolerable.
Yes. I am aware of the earlier links. But I have seen on their webpage recently they have MORE to leak on banks and other institutions but "lately" they have been focusing on the US war in Iraq/Afganistan and US diplomatic cables.
Just saying, they are overzealous. They need to censor some things that may harm private citizens at the get go rather than flood it all out without editorial review.
So punish them after the fact. Impose fines, fines on their estate, prison time, ect. Im just saying, if we shared with everyone that "LOLZ!! US AMerIKuNS ARE D-VELOP-NG an AtOmic BOMbZ." during WWII there may have been some harder times.
The money to make up that debt has to come from somewhere, and with 60 percent benefits going out to mostly poor people you are basically condemning them to an early death. Why not just outright say you don't give a damn about poor/unemployed/sickly people rather than window dress it or change the subject? I know some middle class and wealthy people get social security benefits. I hope that will be the first cut if they genuinely do not need it. I know one guy with 1 million plus assets collecting social security. My grandparents have nothing. They paid into social security their whole lives and they need more money to support a modest 2 bedroom household with a rentable basement. This being the case my grandfather works construction at 72 years old. Basically, the wealthy have a lot of money, significantly more share than the previous 6 decades. It doesn't seem fair to punish the poor and unemployed for the wealthy politicians shitty mistakes. I have a solution we might both agree on. Tax the shit out of politicians.
No, they aren't. Some SUVs can be more efficient then others. There is a difference.
Thats like saying Trucks aren't fuel efficient, some are just more fuel efficient than others. Trucks have a purpose, i.e. hauling shit but it comes at a cost of fuel efficiency. You are comparing it to mass transit and/or cars. The point is there is a use for SUV's whether you like it or not. Maybe you have been exposed to too many asshats that take up two parking spaces or two lanes of traffic in their fuel guzzling Hummers and Escalades. Using an SUV as a single/double person commute car to a reasonable metro city, it would not be efficient and I agree, that is, unless you recently moved from a rural area and can't afford a new car. Unfortunately some cities have crappy weather and shitty transit systems with horrible infrastructure as well. Houston is a shit city and I plan to GTFO. Don't ever move here, and only stay one night if you absolutely have to. The parent post made a generalization about how people don't need SUV's, and I responded to him after reading many others so perhaps it was a bit unfair.
Im just saying, it deserves inquiry as to whether a crime was committed. I don't think its appropriate to label this as a conspiracy just because you support Wikileaks.
I don't know. Why should people have their shits recorded or their sexual relations, or their weird fetishes. Power may corrupt but you have to be reasonable. Government officials are also citizens, just working for the government. They still have all the rights you have. If anything, for example, the President has more eyes on him just because of his position anyway.
* Ahmed Wali Karzai, brother of President Hamid Karzai, is on the CIA payroll and a major drug dealer.
* The US Government lied to the American people about its activities in Yemen.
* Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered American diplomats to collect information on foreign officials and diplomats
* At the urging of the Afghan Government, the US State Dept pressured The Washington Post into watering down a story about
security contractor DynCorp (who were commissioned to train the Afghan police forces) paying for drugs and (pre)teen party boys
1. Not so bad. Sometimes you need to pay dirt-bags for information.
2. Pretty crappy, but maybe necessary as I don't know the specifics.
3. Not so bad. To be expected and probably done by the foreign officials themselves.
4. The worst of the bunch. Probably done to avoid embarrassment. The real question is, where the contractors punished/terminated?
Dude. Wikileaks may have some utility for transparency and exposing corruption but they are incredibly irresponsible. They are more on an anti-US crusade than actually trying to expose corruption worldwide. Why leak US cables rather than the Banking and Insurance memos/documents? It seems to me that that would be much more interesting and probably show all sorts of corruption that would make the US look like a saint.
Rape allegations deserve an inquiry. I don't think its entirely "trumped up", perhaps the women believe they were violated. Who knows? The real problem is that rape charges carry with them social damage even when a person is found not-guilty, which is really the fault of society in general and the justice system for not making it clear enough.
They still have a border with China so China could be trading with them for food. The NK government is a fail cake based on an over-zealous power grab. I agree the US is evil sometimes, but at least its citizens are well fed and have many freedoms no-one in the NK has. As far as Iraq, I don't know if it would actually be that bad assuming you survived the war. The US is spending a lot of money over there for infrastructure and other aid.
That is a little absurd. To be fair, US citizens should have a reasonable expectation to be informed of our diplomatic efforts overseas. If its a sensitive matter that may lead to war? Maybe not immediately, but in a decade or two? yes. To have a ruling class that hides things from its people makes it so we cannot hold them accountable simply because we don't know what the hell they are doing.
Wikileaks is irresponsible in how they handle the materials given to them.
Agreed. They also seem to be anti-US in their agenda rather than interested in informing the public about corruption worldwide. I see no reason why the banking and insurance leaks shouldn't be posted right now as well. They seem rather attention whoreish and trying to feed off of global and domestic anti-US sentiment.
US Government and all citizens working in an official capacity for said gov't don't?
To be fair, government officials do have a right to privacy as far as their life off the clock. While they work, their efforts and deeds must be recorded.
SUV drivers are not necessarily assholes. Stop being one yourself. There are many practical reasons for having an SUV in snowy or mountainous environments. It depends on what you do, how big your family is, ect. Its actually less fuel efficient to get yourself a massive 4 door truck than an SUV if all you need to do is mostly transport 4 people around and sometimes larger items. If you ran a business where you needed to transport lumber all the time, hell you could say the truck is better. Im not saying Paris should have them or tax credits should be the same as cars, but you are making over-generalizations about SUV drivers probably based upon the few times you've see dickhead Hummer or Escalade drivers taking up two lanes of traffic or two parking spaces. Japanese SUV's are pretty practical machines for some places.
Depends. If they are a native English speaker then they are sort of being a twat. If they are not native, no biggie. It looks to me like they are not a native speaker from what I read.
I disagree. SUV's allow you to have four wheel drive and extra weight for snowy and/or mountainous environments which help you get around with more than just two people comfortably. Getting a massive four door truck is actually less fuel efficient than getting a Japanese SUV, which can typically seat 5 or more comfortably and get around better than a car or van. Vans weigh more and are just as top heavy or worse than SUV's and do not always have four wheel drive. Just saying, SUV's have their purpose if they are designed properly. Im not talking about Hummers here, that is for sure opulent and unnecessary. But Honda and Toyota, (Even Chevy I think) make some decent and fuel efficient SUV's with four wheel drive and can seat 5 or more people.
SUV's can be fuel efficient you know. The Japanese seem to make them pretty well. Frankly, I don't give a damn about Paris but this whole anti-SUV mentality is sort of bullshit. An SUV is very useful for Houston, where it floods and there are crappy pothole laden roads everywhere. I must be truthful however, as Houston has a shitty mass transit system. You "could" use the bus routes (which run late) or use the Metro-rail to get from N to S and downtown, but Houston is so spread out the people that benefit from the Metro to commute and could feasibly use the Bus lines to get around is few.
There are SUV's that are useful and fuel economical. Look at Japanese models. Now, I suppose a van in a city setting is more economical since roads should be more or less flat, but try driving around in Houston in a car or van. There are so many damn potholes and weird inclinations or depressions that you almost need an SUV to climb over them. Not to mention when it rains here it starts flooding many areas and cars would get damaged. Paris probably doesn't have that problem, but SUV's have their uses in metro cities like Houston or rural areas.
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Good point. I suppose you could make the case he is a "significant flight risk" but 200,000 seems a bit excessive given the fine. Maybe up to ten times the fine cost would have been appropriate, with closer to ten getting unreasonable but tolerable.
Yes. I am aware of the earlier links. But I have seen on their webpage recently they have MORE to leak on banks and other institutions but "lately" they have been focusing on the US war in Iraq/Afganistan and US diplomatic cables.
Just saying, they are overzealous. They need to censor some things that may harm private citizens at the get go rather than flood it all out without editorial review.
So punish them after the fact. Impose fines, fines on their estate, prison time, ect. Im just saying, if we shared with everyone that "LOLZ!! US AMerIKuNS ARE D-VELOP-NG an AtOmic BOMbZ." during WWII there may have been some harder times.
The money to make up that debt has to come from somewhere, and with 60 percent benefits going out to mostly poor people you are basically condemning them to an early death. Why not just outright say you don't give a damn about poor/unemployed/sickly people rather than window dress it or change the subject? I know some middle class and wealthy people get social security benefits. I hope that will be the first cut if they genuinely do not need it. I know one guy with 1 million plus assets collecting social security. My grandparents have nothing. They paid into social security their whole lives and they need more money to support a modest 2 bedroom household with a rentable basement. This being the case my grandfather works construction at 72 years old. Basically, the wealthy have a lot of money, significantly more share than the previous 6 decades. It doesn't seem fair to punish the poor and unemployed for the wealthy politicians shitty mistakes. I have a solution we might both agree on. Tax the shit out of politicians.
I use "rape" loosely. There is statutory, violent, and "not-really" included.
I can't until Hale-Bopp returns.
No, they aren't. Some SUVs can be more efficient then others. There is a difference.
Thats like saying Trucks aren't fuel efficient, some are just more fuel efficient than others. Trucks have a purpose, i.e. hauling shit but it comes at a cost of fuel efficiency. You are comparing it to mass transit and/or cars. The point is there is a use for SUV's whether you like it or not. Maybe you have been exposed to too many asshats that take up two parking spaces or two lanes of traffic in their fuel guzzling Hummers and Escalades. Using an SUV as a single/double person commute car to a reasonable metro city, it would not be efficient and I agree, that is, unless you recently moved from a rural area and can't afford a new car. Unfortunately some cities have crappy weather and shitty transit systems with horrible infrastructure as well. Houston is a shit city and I plan to GTFO. Don't ever move here, and only stay one night if you absolutely have to. The parent post made a generalization about how people don't need SUV's, and I responded to him after reading many others so perhaps it was a bit unfair.
Im just saying, it deserves inquiry as to whether a crime was committed. I don't think its appropriate to label this as a conspiracy just because you support Wikileaks.
I don't know. Why should people have their shits recorded or their sexual relations, or their weird fetishes. Power may corrupt but you have to be reasonable. Government officials are also citizens, just working for the government. They still have all the rights you have. If anything, for example, the President has more eyes on him just because of his position anyway.
* Ahmed Wali Karzai, brother of President Hamid Karzai, is on the CIA payroll and a major drug dealer.
* The US Government lied to the American people about its activities in Yemen.
* Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered American diplomats to collect information on foreign officials and diplomats
* At the urging of the Afghan Government, the US State Dept pressured The Washington Post into watering down a story about security contractor DynCorp (who were commissioned to train the Afghan police forces) paying for drugs and (pre)teen party boys
1. Not so bad. Sometimes you need to pay dirt-bags for information.
2. Pretty crappy, but maybe necessary as I don't know the specifics.
3. Not so bad. To be expected and probably done by the foreign officials themselves.
4. The worst of the bunch. Probably done to avoid embarrassment. The real question is, where the contractors punished/terminated?
A worthy quote.
Dude. Wikileaks may have some utility for transparency and exposing corruption but they are incredibly irresponsible. They are more on an anti-US crusade than actually trying to expose corruption worldwide. Why leak US cables rather than the Banking and Insurance memos/documents? It seems to me that that would be much more interesting and probably show all sorts of corruption that would make the US look like a saint.
Rape allegations deserve an inquiry. I don't think its entirely "trumped up", perhaps the women believe they were violated. Who knows? The real problem is that rape charges carry with them social damage even when a person is found not-guilty, which is really the fault of society in general and the justice system for not making it clear enough.
They still have a border with China so China could be trading with them for food. The NK government is a fail cake based on an over-zealous power grab. I agree the US is evil sometimes, but at least its citizens are well fed and have many freedoms no-one in the NK has. As far as Iraq, I don't know if it would actually be that bad assuming you survived the war. The US is spending a lot of money over there for infrastructure and other aid.
That is a little absurd. To be fair, US citizens should have a reasonable expectation to be informed of our diplomatic efforts overseas. If its a sensitive matter that may lead to war? Maybe not immediately, but in a decade or two? yes. To have a ruling class that hides things from its people makes it so we cannot hold them accountable simply because we don't know what the hell they are doing.
Wikileaks is irresponsible in how they handle the materials given to them.
Agreed. They also seem to be anti-US in their agenda rather than interested in informing the public about corruption worldwide. I see no reason why the banking and insurance leaks shouldn't be posted right now as well. They seem rather attention whoreish and trying to feed off of global and domestic anti-US sentiment.
To be fair the rape allegations deserve to be looked into, however beyond that I don't believe prosecution of Assange or Wikileaks is warranted.
US Government and all citizens working in an official capacity for said gov't don't?
To be fair, government officials do have a right to privacy as far as their life off the clock. While they work, their efforts and deeds must be recorded.
Your game idea will be stolen and replicated "slightly" better by Zynga shortly and you will lose half your player base.
SUV drivers are not necessarily assholes. Stop being one yourself. There are many practical reasons for having an SUV in snowy or mountainous environments. It depends on what you do, how big your family is, ect. Its actually less fuel efficient to get yourself a massive 4 door truck than an SUV if all you need to do is mostly transport 4 people around and sometimes larger items. If you ran a business where you needed to transport lumber all the time, hell you could say the truck is better. Im not saying Paris should have them or tax credits should be the same as cars, but you are making over-generalizations about SUV drivers probably based upon the few times you've see dickhead Hummer or Escalade drivers taking up two lanes of traffic or two parking spaces. Japanese SUV's are pretty practical machines for some places.
Depends. If they are a native English speaker then they are sort of being a twat. If they are not native, no biggie. It looks to me like they are not a native speaker from what I read.
I disagree. SUV's allow you to have four wheel drive and extra weight for snowy and/or mountainous environments which help you get around with more than just two people comfortably. Getting a massive four door truck is actually less fuel efficient than getting a Japanese SUV, which can typically seat 5 or more comfortably and get around better than a car or van. Vans weigh more and are just as top heavy or worse than SUV's and do not always have four wheel drive. Just saying, SUV's have their purpose if they are designed properly. Im not talking about Hummers here, that is for sure opulent and unnecessary. But Honda and Toyota, (Even Chevy I think) make some decent and fuel efficient SUV's with four wheel drive and can seat 5 or more people.
SUV's can be fuel efficient you know. The Japanese seem to make them pretty well. Frankly, I don't give a damn about Paris but this whole anti-SUV mentality is sort of bullshit. An SUV is very useful for Houston, where it floods and there are crappy pothole laden roads everywhere. I must be truthful however, as Houston has a shitty mass transit system. You "could" use the bus routes (which run late) or use the Metro-rail to get from N to S and downtown, but Houston is so spread out the people that benefit from the Metro to commute and could feasibly use the Bus lines to get around is few.
There are SUV's that are useful and fuel economical. Look at Japanese models. Now, I suppose a van in a city setting is more economical since roads should be more or less flat, but try driving around in Houston in a car or van. There are so many damn potholes and weird inclinations or depressions that you almost need an SUV to climb over them. Not to mention when it rains here it starts flooding many areas and cars would get damaged. Paris probably doesn't have that problem, but SUV's have their uses in metro cities like Houston or rural areas.