The elephant in the room is that in American society, people are in general far more educated than they need to be.
My apologies, I cannot agree. First, I my opinion, there's no such a thing as "too much education". (Indiana PI bill? Or the more recent DHMO?)
1. here's an analogy: I have in my shed a sledge-hammer. Of course I'm using the other tools far more frequently than the sledge-hammer, but... boy... now and then I'm so happy to have it handy.
2. the education is not made only in the knowledge, but also the aptitude to seek relevant knowledge and apply it. Until somebody invents an alternative to education as a way of training/grooming this aptitude, I reckon there's no way one can have "too much training" to "stay fit" along one's life. (and it's only too bad the schools of the present are very bad "gyms" in this respect).
When I was in university I wrote a group paper with one guy whose wife was a professional editor, she helped us out by reviewing it and making suggestions, we had to fight not to get expelled because our paper was "too well written" to be our own work.
You had it proof read and edited by a professional. You did in fact "cheat", the work was not completely yours. This is essentially the same as buying your term paper on-line. You can rationalize it all you want, but the bottom line is your professor expected the work to be yours, not that of a "professional editor". I assume you went on to get an MBA?
Wow... learning something supplementary – like: "how to write a good paper"or "why the peer-review is good in academia" or even "improve the quality your work" – is cheating, right?
Because nothing sounds to me as having a third party reviewing and making improvement suggestions*** leads to a lower level of education/learning/knowledge in the student. My guess on what was screwed in the process: probably the ego of the teacher grading the paper (who is also teaching that "being better is punishable")
*** suggestions that still need to be worked into the paper by the original authors. It is not like the reviewer wrote the paper by himself.
If I fall into the anomaly category without cheating, I'll be screwed. What can I demonstrate in my defense? Not much.
What??? I mean, you can demonstrate the knowledge required to pass the test at any time, isn't it? I mean, you did actually study and the results of the test really reflects you learning. Isn't it? Isn't it? 'Cause if it is not, then you don't worth your grades, cheater or not!
the reality of what it takes to track cheating even remotely accurately will also motivate people to not want to take the class by itself, and also make teaching ineffective.
Which, I argue, is a very desirable outcome. I mean, if you go to college, you should seek the learning not the diploma. Having the later without the former has high chances to create only troubles down the track,
why not connect the racetracks directly to the internet tubes. then the information could slide along the racetrack into a series of tubes and ultimately slide right into your own personal racetrack.
I imagine the Pentagon and US State Dept would strongly object, even sue... and please think at the Swedish court and women population: do you think they'd be able to handle the entire inter-tubes connected population?
Wow, apparently "sarcasm" isn't spoken here, or at least you bozos don't understand it. Work on that then get back to me, k?
Why would one get back to you? It's not like your sarcasm is of a good quality or you have something interesting to add anyway.
Now get back under the rock you sprang in the outer world and, for the God sake, pay for some tutoring in respect subjects if you can't learn them by yourself.
Multi-threading is still the same rule, and can be seen as a sequential series of singular threads that have stop / pause points.
Hmmmm... I sense a mathematician structured mind here
The validity of a conceptual description of the reality is limited and will limit what you can derived from the model.
That's what happens on a single processor anyway.
For example, do you care to explain within your limited model how a GPU works? Does your model helps here? If not, wouldn't one rather drop a simplistic model (easy to understand for an 11 years old) and advance your learning?
For the matter at hand: isn't this supposed to happen for the students on a programming or CS track? I.e. if C/C++ is allegedly better than Basic and should be preffered, why stop here and not add a "better understanding of multi-threading and parallel processing" down the track? Should one stagnate at the same level of understanding one had while at age of 11 years old?
Basing it on CO2/person/km doesn't work for lorries -- unless you count how many people the lorry COULD carry if you stacked them, and by that measure the SUV would likely win against most compact cars anyway.
Mate, the idea is "care how you define CO2 efficiency". Of course CO2/person/km doesn't work for lorries, but CO2/km doesn't work either.
Anyway, what was I speaking of? Oh yeah, I'm thirsty. Mmmm... Sluuuuuurmmm...
Hope that's a good brandy (substitute with your alcoholic beverage you like) that you drank... Are oomplaloopas tasks or threads?
If tasks, there can be multiple oompaloompas in progress at any given time (even if only some of them active). Also, the coordination for the table is not necessary, the boss takes care to allocate *dedicated* virtual table-space, moving physical table pages back and forth to accommodate (unlike in the real-world, the boss does something!). The access to the cabinet (HDD) is subject to queueing (and no, the boss have nothing to say about concurrent accesses to the same post-it note, the oompas need to take care by themselves, potentially involving IoC... errr... that's inter-oompaloompa-communication, not the inversion-of-control).
If oompas are threads, then yes, they'll need to coordinate between them... but only if they really need exclusive access to the same virtual table space or post-it notes. And the godly creator of the oompaloompas (i.e. the programmer) should be very careful to minimize the need of oomtexes...
Errr...? Where's that cold "James Squire" ale? What? Already finished? Time for another. Pffsssst.. gulp... ahhhh...
Will simulate even the discovery of "the theory of everything"... have to tell you, that would be about time... I'm already sick of the super-string theories.
Presumably Bengie is sufficiently older than 11 now that they learned "C/C++" at a time where processors you'd typically find in a computer were not multi core. Given that assumption, they're right, and I have to wonder what you understand about multi-threading.
Given that assumption and also assuming Bengie (or they, whoever they are) stopped learning in the meant time. BTW: have you noticed? They also invented GPU in the mean-time... lo-and-behold... GPU-es are already notorious for handling multiple math manipulations per every clock-cycle (letting aside the threading issue).
(as for my understanding of multi-threading... don't be fulled by my 7 digits ID; it's only when getting older that I got frustrated enough to post on/.)
Many systems are electric within city limits (where it's easy to run the wires) and only switch to Diesel on routes without overhead wires.
Thanks for the info, appreciated.
Many other systems use propane or natural gas extensively.
Is the CO2/km for any gas-powered bus lower than an SUV?
They could also have "clean" Diesel buses that emit less soot than a typical city bus.
My point is: the CO2/km seems like a faulty metric, as it is not a measure of "CO2 efficiency for the purpose" (e.g. public transport is more efficient even if a single bus emits more CO2/km than an SUV). As a consequence, banning vehicles based on it is bound to be sub-optimal (injecting more effort for they purpose of "CO2 efficiency" goal).
Impose a bad metric (CO2/km) and then figure out heaps of exceptions to the rule to make it work. How typical for bureaucrats... they'd even do it on purpose to justify their presence(by creating a chaos only they are able to manage) and grab the cash under the form of fees and fines (... that's how they show they can function in a profitable way).
If your teaching style is to frustrate your students, rather than get them doing something fun and satisfying as quickly as possible.
Since when programming and software engineering is supposed to be fun and satisfying as quick as possible? If that's the goal of your students, why don't they teach marketing, sales and advertisement (like... have fun deceiving your potential customers. If it doesn't work with some of them, move quickly along, you are bound to find others. Better still... pays more than anything related with engineering or science).
Then what of OOP? When you get right down to it, OOP is just procedural with a heavy amount of implicit data indirection.
The original BASIC's were spaghetti 1.0 while anything fully OOP is spaghetti 2.0..and don't even get started on the more complex OOP stuff like polymorphism, because thats spaghetti 3.0.
Why bar someone from bringing an SUV with six people in it, but permit someone to drive a slightly smaller vehicle carrying only one person?
The thing that I found striking in TFA: the ban mentions "amount of CO2 per kilometer" only not "per km and per person transported". Like what? The public transportation in Paris doesn't use buses powered by Diesel engines?
Ok.. ban the SUV's. But can somebody please do something about all the damn cigaarette smoke?
;) Huh? The ciggies are carbon-neutral (obtained from plants), thus more env friendly than even a G-Wiz. This letting aside the taxes/accises collected from smokers far exceeds the taxes on gasoline/roads.;)
... will producing all those additional 'city cars' people will need to buy consume?
I think the most restricting factor will be the parking space for the residents of Paris - I imagine one can't afford to own multiple cars in Paris for this reason.
New business idea: "long-term-parking combined with rent/switch between SUV/small-car" on the outskirts of Paris: SUV-owners visiting Paris will let their SUV in parking and rent a small car, residents of Paris will park their small car and rent and SUV when needed. This as a transition phase to a more extended "car pooling/sharing" scheme - I reckon the pressure will be enough to make such schemes profitable in about 15 years (smaller/cheaper cars + banning large cars in areas with high urban densities) - works well for bikes now.
If we read the story on/. then follow a link to the article, and follow a link to Pirate Bay then are we are all "accessories to copyright infringement?"
FTFY: no need to RTFA.. a lot easier now to act as accessories to copyright infringement, along with/.
You end up with a system that's either hugely expensive and a losing battle because there are millions of these sites or it's just not effective. The cost of putting these systems in place outweigh the benefits, to my mind.
Just release a public statement that you'll be happy to institute this filter but you'll have to significantly raise rates for customers to recoup the cost. Angry constituents will be flooding the politician's in-boxes to put a stop to this.
This will be a double lie: lie that you can do it effectively (nobody can) and lie that will cost anyone an arm and a leg. What's wrong with admitting that parentship, nanny-ing and supervision must stay within the family?
Besides, if there aren't only "consumers"only the money in their pocket in this world that mind: the donations to Wikileaks sort-of prove it.
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The elephant in the room is that in American society, people are in general far more educated than they need to be.
My apologies, I cannot agree. First, I my opinion, there's no such a thing as "too much education". (Indiana PI bill? Or the more recent DHMO?)
1. here's an analogy: I have in my shed a sledge-hammer. Of course I'm using the other tools far more frequently than the sledge-hammer, but... boy... now and then I'm so happy to have it handy.
2. the education is not made only in the knowledge, but also the aptitude to seek relevant knowledge and apply it . Until somebody invents an alternative to education as a way of training/grooming this aptitude, I reckon there's no way one can have "too much training" to "stay fit" along one's life. (and it's only too bad the schools of the present are very bad "gyms" in this respect).
When I was in university I wrote a group paper with one guy whose wife was a professional editor, she helped us out by reviewing it and making suggestions, we had to fight not to get expelled because our paper was "too well written" to be our own work.
You had it proof read and edited by a professional. You did in fact "cheat", the work was not completely yours. This is essentially the same as buying your term paper on-line. You can rationalize it all you want, but the bottom line is your professor expected the work to be yours, not that of a "professional editor". I assume you went on to get an MBA?
Wow... learning something supplementary – like: "how to write a good paper"or "why the peer-review is good in academia" or even "improve the quality your work" – is cheating, right?
Because nothing sounds to me as having a third party reviewing and making improvement suggestions*** leads to a lower level of education/learning/knowledge in the student.
My guess on what was screwed in the process: probably the ego of the teacher grading the paper (who is also teaching that "being better is punishable")
*** suggestions that still need to be worked into the paper by the original authors. It is not like the reviewer wrote the paper by himself.
If I fall into the anomaly category without cheating, I'll be screwed. What can I demonstrate in my defense? Not much.
What??? I mean, you can demonstrate the knowledge required to pass the test at any time, isn't it?
I mean, you did actually study and the results of the test really reflects you learning. Isn't it? Isn't it? 'Cause if it is not, then you don't worth your grades, cheater or not!
the reality of what it takes to track cheating even remotely accurately will also motivate people to not want to take the class by itself, and also make teaching ineffective.
Which, I argue, is a very desirable outcome. I mean, if you go to college, you should seek the learning not the diploma. Having the later without the former has high chances to create only troubles down the track,
why not connect the racetracks directly to the internet tubes. then the information could slide along the racetrack into a series of tubes and ultimately slide right into your own personal racetrack.
I imagine the Pentagon and US State Dept would strongly object, even sue... and please think at the Swedish court and women population: do you think they'd be able to handle the entire inter-tubes connected population?
Wow, apparently "sarcasm" isn't spoken here, or at least you bozos don't understand it. Work on that then get back to me, k?
Why would one get back to you? It's not like your sarcasm is of a good quality or you have something interesting to add anyway.
Now get back under the rock you sprang in the outer world and, for the God sake, pay for some tutoring in respect subjects if you can't learn them by yourself.
Multi-threading is still the same rule, and can be seen as a sequential series of singular threads that have stop / pause points.
Hmmmm... I sense a mathematician structured mind here
The validity of a conceptual description of the reality is limited and will limit what you can derived from the model.
That's what happens on a single processor anyway.
For example, do you care to explain within your limited model how a GPU works? Does your model helps here? If not, wouldn't one rather drop a simplistic model (easy to understand for an 11 years old) and advance your learning?
For the matter at hand: isn't this supposed to happen for the students on a programming or CS track? I.e. if C/C++ is allegedly better than Basic and should be preffered, why stop here and not add a "better understanding of multi-threading and parallel processing" down the track? Should one stagnate at the same level of understanding one had while at age of 11 years old?
Basing it on CO2/person/km doesn't work for lorries -- unless you count how many people the lorry COULD carry if you stacked them, and by that measure the SUV would likely win against most compact cars anyway.
Mate, the idea is "care how you define CO2 efficiency". Of course CO2/person/km doesn't work for lorries, but CO2/km doesn't work either.
Anyway, what was I speaking of? Oh yeah, I'm thirsty. Mmmm... Sluuuuuurmmm...
Hope that's a good brandy (substitute with your alcoholic beverage you like) that you drank... Are oomplaloopas tasks or threads?
If tasks, there can be multiple oompaloompas in progress at any given time (even if only some of them active). Also, the coordination for the table is not necessary, the boss takes care to allocate *dedicated* virtual table-space, moving physical table pages back and forth to accommodate (unlike in the real-world, the boss does something!). The access to the cabinet (HDD) is subject to queueing (and no, the boss have nothing to say about concurrent accesses to the same post-it note, the oompas need to take care by themselves, potentially involving IoC... errr... that's inter-oompaloompa-communication, not the inversion-of-control).
If oompas are threads, then yes, they'll need to coordinate between them... but only if they really need exclusive access to the same virtual table space or post-it notes. And the godly creator of the oompaloompas (i.e. the programmer) should be very careful to minimize the need of oomtexes...
Errr...? Where's that cold "James Squire" ale? What? Already finished? Time for another. Pffsssst.. gulp... ahhhh...
simulating everything?
Will simulate even the discovery of "the theory of everything"... have to tell you, that would be about time... I'm already sick of the super-string theories.
Presumably Bengie is sufficiently older than 11 now that they learned "C/C++" at a time where processors you'd typically find in a computer were not multi core. Given that assumption, they're right, and I have to wonder what you understand about multi-threading.
Given that assumption and also assuming Bengie (or they, whoever they are) stopped learning in the meant time .
BTW: have you noticed? They also invented GPU in the mean-time... lo-and-behold... GPU-es are already notorious for handling multiple math manipulations per every clock-cycle (letting aside the threading issue).
(as for my understanding of multi-threading... don't be fulled by my 7 digits ID; it's only when getting older that I got frustrated enough to post on /.)
Is the person who chose the name "Elliptic" vis-à-vis "Epileptic" fit for the job?
Unless he is Venus, I think he is.
Many systems are electric within city limits (where it's easy to run the wires) and only switch to Diesel on routes without overhead wires.
Thanks for the info, appreciated.
Many other systems use propane or natural gas extensively.
Is the CO2/km for any gas-powered bus lower than an SUV?
They could also have "clean" Diesel buses that emit less soot than a typical city bus.
My point is: the CO2/km seems like a faulty metric, as it is not a measure of "CO2 efficiency for the purpose" (e.g. public transport is more efficient even if a single bus emits more CO2/km than an SUV). As a consequence, banning vehicles based on it is bound to be sub-optimal (injecting more effort for they purpose of "CO2 efficiency" goal).
Impose a bad metric (CO2/km) and then figure out heaps of exceptions to the rule to make it work.
How typical for bureaucrats... they'd even do it on purpose to justify their presence(by creating a chaos only they are able to manage) and grab the cash under the form of fees and fines (... that's how they show they can function in a profitable way).
If your teaching style is to frustrate your students, rather than get them doing something fun and satisfying as quickly as possible.
Since when programming and software engineering is supposed to be fun and satisfying as quick as possible? If that's the goal of your students, why don't they teach marketing, sales and advertisement (like... have fun deceiving your potential customers. If it doesn't work with some of them, move quickly along, you are bound to find others. Better still... pays more than anything related with engineering or science).
Or, you know, there's actual emulators such as AppleWin for the ][ series and VICE for the C=64 and its brethren. Also RetroForth.
Not as an IPhone app, though. And that's the tool I heard the new generation is using.
Procedural languages turn into a spaghetti mess.
Then what of OOP? When you get right down to it, OOP is just procedural with a heavy amount of implicit data indirection. The original BASIC's were spaghetti 1.0 while anything fully OOP is spaghetti 2.0 ..and don't even get started on the more complex OOP stuff like polymorphism, because thats spaghetti 3.0.
Template and meta-programming? spaghetti Aleph-1.
I still find multi-threading and C/C++ easier than Basic.
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Computer's just manipulate math, one problem at a time. Crazy easy.
I wonder what did you understand from multi-threading?
Why bar someone from bringing an SUV with six people in it, but permit someone to drive a slightly smaller vehicle carrying only one person?
The thing that I found striking in TFA: the ban mentions "amount of CO2 per kilometer" only not "per km and per person transported". Like what? The public transportation in Paris doesn't use buses powered by Diesel engines?
Ok.. ban the SUV's. But can somebody please do something about all the damn cigaarette smoke?
;) Huh? The ciggies are carbon-neutral (obtained from plants), thus more env friendly than even a G-Wiz. This letting aside the taxes/accises collected from smokers far exceeds the taxes on gasoline/roads. ;)
... will producing all those additional 'city cars' people will need to buy consume?
I think the most restricting factor will be the parking space for the residents of Paris - I imagine one can't afford to own multiple cars in Paris for this reason.
New business idea: "long-term-parking combined with rent/switch between SUV/small-car" on the outskirts of Paris: SUV-owners visiting Paris will let their SUV in parking and rent a small car, residents of Paris will park their small car and rent and SUV when needed.
This as a transition phase to a more extended "car pooling/sharing" scheme - I reckon the pressure will be enough to make such schemes profitable in about 15 years (smaller/cheaper cars + banning large cars in areas with high urban densities) - works well for bikes now.
If we read the story on /. then follow a link to the article, and follow a link to Pirate Bay then are we are all "accessories to copyright infringement?"
FTFY: no need to RTFA.. a lot easier now to act as accessories to copyright infringement, along with /.
Sucks to be him but that's what happens when you let your malice get the best of you.
Agrravating circumstances... when what's the best of you isn't even remotely good enough.
You end up with a system that's either hugely expensive and a losing battle because there are millions of these sites or it's just not effective. The cost of putting these systems in place outweigh the benefits, to my mind.
Just release a public statement that you'll be happy to institute this filter but you'll have to significantly raise rates for customers to recoup the cost. Angry constituents will be flooding the politician's in-boxes to put a stop to this.
This will be a double lie: lie that you can do it effectively (nobody can) and lie that will cost anyone an arm and a leg. What's wrong with admitting that parentship, nanny-ing and supervision must stay within the family?
Besides, if there aren't only "consumers"only the money in their pocket in this world that mind: the donations to Wikileaks sort-of prove it.
Easy. The rear admirals are well known for applying pressure on the poop deck...
Ah, now I see... then, methinks, the Sweden Pirate Party should start doing something about a rape case against the rear admirals...