No, you need to engineer your shit so that if a machine fails it doesn't matter. You have other machines able to jump in and take over the load.
Yes, and you can let that damn'd machine that just died take the slot(s) on the rack and take your time, isn't it? Like, at least until you figure out what you had at lunch 3 days ago that now your ass is on fire; and if it's not on fire, then why the boss yells at you?
Interesting. You've gone from the idea that it is possible there may be $10/gallon gas at SOME POINT in the future (i.e. between now and Heat Death) and then, once you've gotten agreement that no, such an occurrence is not impossible, you've moved your estimate to within "a few years."
If you refer to this post, let me put an emphasis:
Now, imagine a time of $10/gallon gasoline price, with the current average wage. You think such a situation is improbable/impossible in the near future?
If something else, [Citation needed].
Fascinating. I would submit the corollary is also, "we'll see if you can afford a Tesla S in a few years"
If you won't be able to afford a Tesla, maybe you will be able to afford a MIEV. If not, maybe the Bangalore guys could entice you with a Reva? Failing this, you can try an electric moped.
WoW and EVE Online and anything else we have nowadays, no matter how "immersive," is nothing even close to the full override/substitution of the senses that would constitute virtual reality.
No the base price for the Model S Performance edition is 87,400. Adding options to that is going to make the price increase.
Are those options going to increase the range? If not, mentioning them is irrelevant, you will go to the same distance as for the base price (I can sell you a Corolla with solid gold steering wheel for half a million, is it relevant for how far you'd go on a full tank?)
To be fair, if you do start with a non-full tank, drive longer distances or raise the RPM (by driving it at higher speeds) to a fuel-driven car engine, you can expect that you may not be able to reach the next petrol station
No because petrol cars aren't that fucking pathetic.
We'll talk in a few years, see if you will be able to afford driving a petrol car (e.g. at a $10/gallon petrol price).
You can buy it whenever you will judge will serve your interest. My point in the post you replied to was:
1. the fact that a product has limits doesn't make the product is useless
2. the fact that a product has limits doesn't mean that other products won't expose limits of the same nature 3. a rational approach will always look at the limits and the context in judging the fitness to the purpose (knowing well that nothing stays the same forever).
a combining form meaning “computer,” “computer network,” or “virtual reality,” used in the formation of compound words ( cybertalk; cyberart; cyberspace ) and by extension meaning “very modern” ( cyberfashion )."
(apropos whooshing) I got it from the first post. Also made one step further: why do you think the EFF avoided the use the particle cyber- in their name? It's not like the particle cyber or the notion of cyberspace haven't had any use in 1990 (when EFF was founded).
It occurs to me that the concept of "Cyberspace" is not too distant from the concept of a soul in the individual.
So, you too think the Internet was created by God? I mean, it's highly complex, perfectly tuned (most of the time) and it's quite magic how the things in it interact and live or die from this interaction... Look, I write a post, I press the submit button and you get to read my thoughts... you can't explain that!
"Cyberpace" is a metaphor. Used as such, it is sometimes useful, but, like all metaphors, it can be misleading if taken as a literal description; the internet is obvious not a literal physical place.
Noooo! The cyberspace is the total amount of space enclosed in those tubez.
If you want to challenge the existing motor vehicle industry, you have to offer a compelling reason to buy your alternative product.
All the above makes a valid position when transposed to the pre-Ford car industry, with horses and carriages as the main competitors to cars for "go where you like" kind of travel. At that times, cars continued to be a challenger (even if not a competitor) to the "horse industry".
So far, other than "wow it's super expensive," there doesn't seem to be too much to recommend the Tesla.
I agree in the so far precondition. Now, imagine a time of $10/gallon gasoline price, with the current average wage. You think such a situation is improbable/impossible in the near future?
At $101,000 there's a very targeted market for this car....
The highest price for model S is $87,400. The lowest priced model for which the range is still defined (60kWh battery) is $62,400. Me thinks you are using the prices for the Roadster.
1) can be certain of a full charge every time they leave the house;
2) never take detours, or get forced into detours by road construction;
3) never go above the speed limit;
Given that, I'm absolutely shocked that this isn't already a mass-market blockbuster - it's clearly suitable for all the common use cases!
To be fair, if you do start with a non-full tank, drive longer distances or raise the RPM (by driving it at higher speeds) to a fuel-driven car engine, you can expect that you may not be able to reach the next petrol station (i.e. what you describe is, in principle, not specific to electric cars). The difference is in the advertised range.
Yeah just what I want in my storage gear, the fastest to market. Eh, reliability, long life, ease of use, who needs that stuff.
I think I'm done here...
Why... this is exactly the reason fast runners are required for the job! To find another stupid person to be parted with her/his money before the competition does.
Whenever I rush myself, I make mistakes, miss things, etc..
Well, you are not made of the stuff EMC is looking for.
Isn't prioritizing speed a bad thing? Better to do the job right than fast.
There's no such a thing as a "right way" in the "clouds" - (e.g. there will always be machines about to give the holly smoke out. You do need to run and run fast to replace the failing machine)
Ah... I see how suddenly reading 30-40% of the spam in this world becomes a competitive advantage - know about HGH, EPO and all the stuff for increasing physical performance.
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So get that manual out, and have a try!
You convinced me, I'll give it a go.
wasn't the whole test about seeing if you could reach the next supercharging station from one?
Didn't I say: "the difference is in the advertised range."?
No, you need to engineer your shit so that if a machine fails it doesn't matter. You have other machines able to jump in and take over the load.
Yes, and you can let that damn'd machine that just died take the slot(s) on the rack and take your time, isn't it? Like, at least until you figure out what you had at lunch 3 days ago that now your ass is on fire; and if it's not on fire, then why the boss yells at you?
Interesting. You've gone from the idea that it is possible there may be $10/gallon gas at SOME POINT in the future (i.e. between now and Heat Death) and then, once you've gotten agreement that no, such an occurrence is not impossible, you've moved your estimate to within "a few years."
If you refer to this post, let me put an emphasis:
If something else, [Citation needed].
Fascinating. I would submit the corollary is also, "we'll see if you can afford a Tesla S in a few years"
If you won't be able to afford a Tesla, maybe you will be able to afford a MIEV. If not, maybe the Bangalore guys could entice you with a Reva? Failing this, you can try an electric moped.
WoW and EVE Online and anything else we have nowadays, no matter how "immersive," is nothing even close to the full override/substitution of the senses that would constitute virtual reality.
Go sell this to gaming addicts.
But...but...electrons are 0-dimensional!
They have a classical radius and the wires in your dial-up modem do have plenty of cyber-space for them (large-grin).
(I keep forgetting the nerds need to be pedantically precise or speculative, but not necessary relevant or common-sensical).
No the base price for the Model S Performance edition is 87,400. Adding options to that is going to make the price increase.
Are those options going to increase the range? If not, mentioning them is irrelevant, you will go to the same distance as for the base price (I can sell you a Corolla with solid gold steering wheel for half a million, is it relevant for how far you'd go on a full tank?)
To be fair, if you do start with a non-full tank, drive longer distances or raise the RPM (by driving it at higher speeds) to a fuel-driven car engine, you can expect that you may not be able to reach the next petrol station
No because petrol cars aren't that fucking pathetic.
We'll talk in a few years, see if you will be able to afford driving a petrol car (e.g. at a $10/gallon petrol price).
You can buy it whenever you will judge will serve your interest. My point in the post you replied to was:
1. the fact that a product has limits doesn't make the product is useless
2. the fact that a product has limits doesn't mean that other products won't expose limits of the same nature
3. a rational approach will always look at the limits and the context in judging the fitness to the purpose (knowing well that nothing stays the same forever).
a combining form meaning “computer,” “computer network,” or “virtual reality,” used in the formation of compound words ( cybertalk; cyberart; cyberspace ) and by extension meaning “very modern” ( cyberfashion )."
(apropos whooshing) I got it from the first post. Also made one step further: why do you think the EFF avoided the use the particle cyber- in their name? It's not like the particle cyber or the notion of cyberspace haven't had any use in 1990 (when EFF was founded).
It occurs to me that the concept of "Cyberspace" is not too distant from the concept of a soul in the individual.
So, you too think the Internet was created by God? I mean, it's highly complex, perfectly tuned (most of the time) and it's quite magic how the things in it interact and live or die from this interaction...
Look, I write a post, I press the submit button and you get to read my thoughts... you can't explain that!
the electronic FRONTIER foundation.
Well, be a good chap and wake me up when they change their name to the CYBER frontier foundation, will you?
Wait until we have Virtual Reality and ask again.
What do you think EveOnline or WoW are?
"Cyberpace" is a metaphor. Used as such, it is sometimes useful, but, like all metaphors, it can be misleading if taken as a literal description; the internet is obvious not a literal physical place.
Noooo! The cyberspace is the total amount of space enclosed in those tubez.
If you want to challenge the existing motor vehicle industry, you have to offer a compelling reason to buy your alternative product.
All the above makes a valid position when transposed to the pre-Ford car industry, with horses and carriages as the main competitors to cars for "go where you like" kind of travel. At that times, cars continued to be a challenger (even if not a competitor) to the "horse industry".
So far, other than "wow it's super expensive," there doesn't seem to be too much to recommend the Tesla.
I agree in the so far precondition. Now, imagine a time of $10/gallon gasoline price, with the current average wage. You think such a situation is improbable/impossible in the near future?
Yeah its nothing like having 16 gallons of explosive fluid under your butt.
What's explosive in diesel fuel, precious? (or do you often use fertilizer as a fuel additive?)
At $101,000 there's a very targeted market for this car....
The highest price for model S is $87,400. The lowest priced model for which the range is still defined (60kWh battery) is $62,400. Me thinks you are using the prices for the Roadster.
So the Tesla is only suitable for people who:
1) can be certain of a full charge every time they leave the house; 2) never take detours, or get forced into detours by road construction; 3) never go above the speed limit;
Given that, I'm absolutely shocked that this isn't already a mass-market blockbuster - it's clearly suitable for all the common use cases!
To be fair, if you do start with a non-full tank, drive longer distances or raise the RPM (by driving it at higher speeds) to a fuel-driven car engine, you can expect that you may not be able to reach the next petrol station (i.e. what you describe is, in principle, not specific to electric cars). The difference is in the advertised range.
Consequence: sell your EMC stock (if you have one) while it's still high.
"You are holding it the wrong way..."
when Murray asks if you can work fast
Yeah just what I want in my storage gear, the fastest to market. Eh, reliability, long life, ease of use, who needs that stuff.
I think I'm done here...
Why... this is exactly the reason fast runners are required for the job! To find another stupid person to be parted with her/his money before the competition does.
Inspire Hope? Geez, who writes this stuff?
Them Even tough it doesn't stop a good chunk of this world to seek an unwarranted one.
Whenever I rush myself, I make mistakes, miss things, etc..
Well, you are not made of the stuff EMC is looking for.
Isn't prioritizing speed a bad thing? Better to do the job right than fast.
There's no such a thing as a "right way" in the "clouds" - (e.g. there will always be machines about to give the holly smoke out. You do need to run and run fast to replace the failing machine)
Ah... I see how suddenly reading 30-40% of the spam in this world becomes a competitive advantage - know about HGH, EPO and all the stuff for increasing physical performance.