I guess they have zero visibility now! It's melting, it's melting... Yikes... we'll miss them. Surely the glass mirrors could be destroyed in seconds or days without there even being direct fire burning the buildings... it's warping... it's warping... beam the telescopes up scotty... it was a far better thing that they have done... opening our eyes to the universe... to infinity and beyond...
How many bits does it take to kill a human? Bits of what is the real question?
Bits of information? Bits of bullets? Bits of concrete? Bits of glass? Bits of a virus?
They can all get the job done given the right, er wrong, context.
3.2KiB of data with the flu eh?
How about three bytes, 24 bits, uttered from the mouth of Bush? "War"! That killed a whole bunch of people with a lot less information. Ok, sure there was lots of supporting info.
Many people have died from a lot fewer bits than the flu needs.
solar road panel of 13m2 = 15.5 square yards x $7.84 = $122 resurfacing cost compared to $10,000 for the same surface area of solar road panel that generates $0.38 worth of electricity per day.
It would take an estimated 4.8 billion solar road panels to cover all of the roads in the US according to their crazy plan.
4.8 billion x 10,000 = $48 TRILLION which equals $137,000 for every single person in the US
Americans can't even afford to fix all of their roads for $7.84 per square yard so its an impossibility they could afford $48 trillion for such a pie in the sky project.
Besides, after 21 years they would need to spend another $48 trillion to replace to old solar road panels which up to that point would have generated $2,912 in electricity leaving $7,087 debt per panel. That's assuming they have 100% reliability, in reality they would probably all break down long before that.
Yes, the devil is indeed in the details and he's traveling on highway 666!
(Thanks to SR, the devils detailer, for his insights).
The coming Larrabee extensions to the X64-86 architecture will cream nvidia and they are frightened of this so they are panicking with silly predictions soothsaying the future bright for GPUs while pretending to portent a bleak future for CPUs.
I'll take a Larrabee style CPU capable Predicate+SIMD+4Tread Multicore processor over NVidia or ATI any day BECAUSE it is a general purpose cpu with TONS of software that can work on it already. Basically Larrabee is an open spec architecture extension while NVidia keeps it's assembly language secret. Give me access so my code can run free! Thanks Intel! Now share Larrabee with AMD please! Oh, and bring the Larrabee instruction enhancements to ALL Intel and AMD CPUs please! Thanks again.
As a consultant I've been exposed to many different corporate computer systems and often use their equipment.
The policy usually is that one is not permitted to mix personal data on any company equipment and that includes laptop computers. The policy is often stated on the login panel or with the background image or screen saver image as well.
Some companies allow personal browsing during breaks while others strictly forbid that. Some even don't allow personal equipment in company buildings.
Even with the restrictions there are some exceptions. A personal data stick might be permitted to allow for personal data to be accessed while at work. Usually this is for consultants to complete time sheets and other reporting functions.
It's best to keep your personal data on your own equipment. However, I'm always concerned that while at some client site they might confiscate my personal electronic gear for examination at anytime. So it's best to limit person information at work. This is especially true the tighter the security policy is. Even your phone might not be safe from data dumping by company security personnel.
That said, at most companies reason will likely prevail however be prepared for it not prevailing. A portable hard drive that you can detach in seconds might be best. Never leave it in the desk but always carry it with you in your pocket or you risk losing it.
As a consultant often new equipment is needed for the job when I work off site, for example a new spiffy computer, so I arrange for it to be part of the payment for work. This way I can use the equipment as I wish and these complications disappear for the most part. However, in some cases especially when work of high value is being done it's best to not do anything with the equipment that is personal or that leaves any personal data on the computer in case there are any troubles.
The best thing is to find out your company's policies and if needed get permission in writing from management who have the authority beforehand.
So tread with care and make use of removable data sticks or drives. These can also be helpful to have your own OS installed on a laptop. The best is likely to just travel with your own equipment to work making sure it's well marked and well secured against theft by other employees or company management!
Not only that but if they are truly serving the public good then they have nothing to hide from the public at all! There is zero need for them to hide anything about their activities. Any hint that they are hiding anything should immediately bring about their removal from public service without any hesitation what so ever and they should also be barred from ever serving in a public capacity ever again even as a sub contractor. Identification of ALL PUBLIC servants is a MUST. All secrets held by governments are not in the public interest they are in the governments interest, the two are NOT the same. What is important to government is often the last thing that is good for the public. If it isn't in the public view it's not for the good of the public. Public servants MUST BE HELD to the highest possible standards of conduct.
With folks like you, yup repetition even in one sentence is necessary because you reject facts of life preferring fantasy instead.
I most certainly do not trust the google in today's political climate. That doesn't mean that they have spilled their guts, but it's very possible and highly probable as well given the power grab by Bush/Cheney and other arrogants who think they run the world (or those that desire to).
"You're a twat.... In short, please STFU or at least do some reading before you post on a complicated subject. Slashdot is full enough of loud, uninformed morons." - AC
Ok, that's a great way to start off a dialog. Oh, right you're attempting to incite a flame war. How interesting.
"The warrantless wiretapping program was established by executive order, not the PATRIOT Act." - AC
So what? It's irrelevant, not that I agree with the accuracy of your statements. The point that you miss is that they can spy on us if they want to and it's better to assume that they are than that they are not especially after the entire wiretapping that they did do illegally.
There is a wee little thing called the Patriot Act dude that they used to spy on Americans telephone calls and internet messages so hooking into The Google wouldn't be a problem at all.
Just think about it, you're George Bush or Dick Cheney and The Google is just sitting there ripe for the plucking. Done deal dude. The USA Government very likely has all the access they want at Google to anything at all in real time with all details. If it's not true assume it is to be on the safe side.
Yes, there are some companies who use the GPL with varying degrees of success and for a variety of reasons. The article is showing that there are many companies that choose to explicitly avoid the use of the GPL for a variety of reasons including but not limited to the very reasons that those other companies choose the GPL!!! The FORCED distribution of source code to modified GPL projects means just what the article says, it's a serious limitation for the business and loss of revenue potential. That's fine for some but not for most.
It's not about stirring FUD at all. It's about educating people that the GPL isn't right for many.
In my company we have no fear of USING a GPLed program or even of shipping it with our software. What we do not do is commit lots of time and money developing an existing GPL program and giving OUR changes away for free. Sure we'll change a line or twenty if needed to fix a bug or add a simple command line option we need for example, but we'll not put in any effort to develop it further. For serious updates we prefer to maximize our profit potential so we do prefer the other actually free licenses.
When shipping and using a GPLed program in your software make sure that you keep it contained in a GPL Virus Containment Condom so that it can't infect your own software! You do this by keeping it a separate program or by putting it into a separate program if you're linking to a library. Often a command line program is one of the best forms to wrap libraries in so that you can access it without being contaminated by it.
Now you might not like the way that I think or write about the GPL but it's not FUD, it's the reality of how my company and it's people hold the GPL in low regard and as a danger to our financial endeavors.
So choose your software licenses carefully for it can have a real world impact and the GPL can destroy your business if you're not careful.
Never shake hands with GPL dude Richard Stallman and this is why.
What other surprise horrors lurk in the GPL?
Does anyone see that Richard Stallman is no longer qualified to lead the Free Software Foundation as a result of his disgusting public act (linked above)? If you think he should still lead the GPL and GNU and FSF as a public figure then does that mean that you support people doing what he did in public (or even in private)?
Maybe it's time to publicly rebuke Richard Stallman for his actions in the above linked item. Shivers. Get some manners Richard, please.
That's funny, I'm the one who started this thread sumdumass so technically it's you who is refusing to leave.
Actually your posts have devolved to flame incitement and nothing more. Just empty nothings of a person who kills people rather than coming up with other solutions. Murderer.
Again an unnecessary attack against my grandpa... such childish behavior dude. Demonstrates that you are attempting to flame, yet failing.
If you don't support indiscriminate murderous killing then you can't support the USA Government and it's actions in doing indiscriminate murders of innocents euphemistically known as "collateral damage". By supporting them you are a mass murderer. It really is that simple.
It matters not what you think of me sumdumass, what matters are the facts in objective reality where you are a mass murderer and a supporter of mass murder by your Government.
SumDumAss, your desires are 100% irrelevant. What matters is what actions you take and what groups and political policies you support! By supporting mass murder you thus become, already are, a mass murderer. By supporting the mass murder of your government you are giving permission for those that they attack to attack you back - basic international law.
"Then the rest of the world should attempt to stop the US."
Ok, clearly you can even comprehend even basic concepts put forward in a discussion.
"Of course your a coward troll who comes from a line of cowards so I guess you might be dense.... You should run off and have homosexual sex with your granddaddy who help Jews and queers escape the nazi's instead of defending his country from the invading army just before he ran."
And you call me the troll, how sad.
"... I do know the difference between evil humans over innocent humans and will not expect them to get away with murder..."
Very strange coming from an evil human being who supports indiscriminate mass murder. So I guess you need to not let yourself get away with murder. Arrest yourself for the mass murdering polices you support. Oh, and while you're at it it's likely that you're not telling the truth about what really happened so arrest yourself for those two murders too.
Obviously you can't see how your own stated policy applies to yourself, but then people like you only see things from your one sided point of view and ignore the damage you do in the world only concerned with your own perceived victories.
You've not schooled anyone except in how evil and murderous you are. I guess you got a taste for it.
Hey, this is my thread so you go and troll somewhere else some dumb ass.
Lame. Clearly you don't get what other people write dude sumdumass; fullfilling your screen name I guess. Whatever dude.
"You can make shit up all you want but that will not make you right. Until Bin laden or anyone involve with 9/11 says it was for different reasons, you are just making it up."
What? That's a good one. You think that I wrote those quotes of OBL? That's a good one. No, those are quotes attributed to him sumdumass.
I didn't miss anything, in fact I put the quote there!
The USA has a long history of drawing blood in the region in one way or another thinking it has impunity to do so. As the rest of the world now knows the USA doesn't have impunity in it's actions... I just wonder when the people in America will figure that out.
Drawing of first blood is irrelevant anyhow since even if that question were settled (which it can't be due to the many claims and counter claims) it wouldn't stop the cycle of violence. What will stop the cycle of violence is those that make the decisions to conduct violence stop choosing violence as their solution to problems. Until then it'll keep going back and forth. This is a basic notion that isn't even disputed. Many disputes have been finally settled only once the violence stopped. Again look to history for examples. Sometimes it takes a long time for it to happen which is too bad for all those needlessly killed as the waring parties keep at their deadly murderous killing dance.
I've made up no history murderous sumdumass. How do you think I've made up history? That's really funny. As for reality, I'm fully connected. You see I do actually understand your point of view, I used to hold something similar in my foolish years then this thing called wisdom happened... I value human life... clearly you don't which is why it's so easy for you to kill and murder people indiscriminately with your politics which is just an open invitation for your enemies (OBL for example) to strike back against your policies. When you get that then maybe you'll be on your way back to reality and compassion from that dark place you inhabit now.
"sumdumbass" - you sure picked a great name that fits you.
Sigh... claiming someone is a troll when obviously they are not is the last refuge of someone who has no arguments left... you keep saying that I'm a troll yet here I am asking cogent questions and making cogent and on point statements relevant to the topic at hand. None of this is intended to inflame you. Obviously I didn't know that you had killed two people in self defense until you said so (assuming your story is factual). So enough of the troll silliness... at best it's lame that's why I never use it first and then only use it to point out that from my point of view the other party could be said to be one too. So whatever, it's meaningless to me anyhow.
I wrote: "Oh, 911 was a revenge military style based response by Al-Qaeda to prior USA Attacks against Al-Qaeda." and you foolishly replied "No it was not and it was never claimed to have been by Al Qeada or anyone involved with them.... bla bla bla...".
You really do need to get some history into you sumdumass. While I don't support either Bin Laden's and his group(s) actions nor those of Bush/Cheney/Blair/Obama/Biden/... I can read the history and comprehend it. You know people can have more than one reason for doing a thing? You do know that don't you?
"As for their accusations of terrorizing the innocent, the children, and the women, these are in the category of 'accusing others with their own affliction in order to fool the masses.' The evidence overwhelmingly shows America and Israel killing the weaker men, women and children in the Muslim world and elsewhere. A few examples of this are seen in the recent Qana massacre in Lebanon, and the death of more than 600,000 Iraqi children because of the shortage of food and medicine which resulted from the boycotts and sanctions against the Muslim Iraqi people, also their withholding of arms from the Muslims of Bosnia-Herzegovina leaving them prey to the Christian Serbians who massacred and raped in a manner not seen in contemporary history. Not to forget the dropping of the H-bombs on cities with their entire populations of children, elderly, and women, on purpose, and in a premeditated manner as was the case with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Osama bin Laden, In Nida'ul Islam magazine October-November 1996"
Here's another one more recent.
"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women. Osama bin Laden, Admitting responsibility for attacks on US on September 11, 2001, on videotape shown on Al Jazeera, October 29, 2004"
So the revenge cycle is perpetuated by Osama Bin Laden and the United States of America doling out destruction and death and murder and killing on a mass scale across the globe. They are both killing machines with little or no regard for human life, that is why they and those that support their mass murderous policies are vile evil monsters. When you get that that is why you are one of these monsters you'll get what I'm saying. Until then you're a lost cause and are a member of the dark side of the forces of good and evil.
Of course you'd believe the bullshit peddled by your media and politicians and political nationalism of the USA that you'd think that they drew first blood. How short are the memories of the foolish and dumb asses.
You perpetuate the revenge killing cycle and THUS are THE PROBLEM especially to those that are being killed now and the families and friends of those that have been killed. You are no different than Osama Bin
That's funny but completely off target. I don't drink the Dew, although it can be a refreshing beverage! Also my Mom's basement is over 3,000 miles away and I've not been in it for years, er, decades. Cheeto's, ick.
Yes, at when consulting at a real corporation they would only allow IE, that's why if you were to actually read my posting I said for MS to adopt HTML5... but then I guess the comprehension part of reading wasn't your strong suit in school.
I really don't care which browser people use. I use three currently: Firefox, Chrome, and Safari on my Macs and Windows and *BSD boxes. Oh, and on occasion MSIE when it's the only choice. Funny enough that's rare nowadays - except at certain clients.
As for reality... comprehension is important for understanding reality too.
But just for you I can adjust my words "Who uses IE anymore?" to be "Who in the know uses IE anymore?". There you go.
Microsoft is the last one standing when it comes to the browser musical chairs... how exactly is their browser relevant anymore? Who uses it? WTF? Why?
Video and Audio tags are very cool. Get OGGed and Theora'd out Msie.
Slashdot Mirror
Sorry, I could not resist the static jolt. Now I'm sure I'll be hairanged by those charging lights off topic!
I guess they have zero visibility now! It's melting, it's melting... Yikes... we'll miss them. Surely the glass mirrors could be destroyed in seconds or days without there even being direct fire burning the buildings... it's warping... it's warping... beam the telescopes up scotty... it was a far better thing that they have done... opening our eyes to the universe... to infinity and beyond...
Maybe they'll need those adjustable glasses retrofitted after? http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/josh_silver_demos_adjustable_liquid_filled_eyeglasses.html
A sad song of sorrow for the mechanical eyes that have showed us so much. May you rest in pieces.
Awesome! Funny! Intelligent! Relevant!
Moderators are such fools...
How many bits does it take to kill a human? Bits of what is the real question?
Bits of information? Bits of bullets? Bits of concrete? Bits of glass? Bits of a virus?
They can all get the job done given the right, er wrong, context.
3.2KiB of data with the flu eh?
How about three bytes, 24 bits, uttered from the mouth of Bush? "War"! That killed a whole bunch of people with a lot less information. Ok, sure there was lots of supporting info.
Many people have died from a lot fewer bits than the flu needs.
Further analysis: Repairing roads that lasts for over 22 years (solar road panel expected to last 21 years)
100,000 square yards costs $784,000 = $7.84 per square yard
Hot-In-Place Asphalt Surface Recycling Single Pass Method
http://www.smoothroads.com/psi/hot-in-place.html
Costs Analysis:
http://www.smoothroads.com/psi/images/enc_1615_2.jpg
solar road panel of 13m2 = 15.5 square yards x $7.84 = $122 resurfacing cost compared to $10,000 for the same surface area of solar road panel that generates $0.38 worth of electricity per day.
It would take an estimated 4.8 billion solar road panels to cover all of the roads in the US according to their crazy plan.
4.8 billion x 10,000 = $48 TRILLION which equals $137,000 for every single person in the US
Americans can't even afford to fix all of their roads for $7.84 per square yard so its an impossibility they could afford $48 trillion for such a pie in the sky project.
Besides, after 21 years they would need to spend another $48 trillion to replace to old solar road panels which up to that point would have generated $2,912 in electricity leaving $7,087 debt per panel. That's assuming they have 100% reliability, in reality they would probably all break down long before that.
Yes, the devil is indeed in the details and he's traveling on highway 666!
(Thanks to SR, the devils detailer, for his insights).
The coming Larrabee extensions to the X64-86 architecture will cream nvidia and they are frightened of this so they are panicking with silly predictions soothsaying the future bright for GPUs while pretending to portent a bleak future for CPUs.
I'll take a Larrabee style CPU capable Predicate+SIMD+4Tread Multicore processor over NVidia or ATI any day BECAUSE it is a general purpose cpu with TONS of software that can work on it already. Basically Larrabee is an open spec architecture extension while NVidia keeps it's assembly language secret. Give me access so my code can run free! Thanks Intel! Now share Larrabee with AMD please! Oh, and bring the Larrabee instruction enhancements to ALL Intel and AMD CPUs please! Thanks again.
As a consultant I've been exposed to many different corporate computer systems and often use their equipment.
The policy usually is that one is not permitted to mix personal data on any company equipment and that includes laptop computers. The policy is often stated on the login panel or with the background image or screen saver image as well.
Some companies allow personal browsing during breaks while others strictly forbid that. Some even don't allow personal equipment in company buildings.
Even with the restrictions there are some exceptions. A personal data stick might be permitted to allow for personal data to be accessed while at work. Usually this is for consultants to complete time sheets and other reporting functions.
It's best to keep your personal data on your own equipment. However, I'm always concerned that while at some client site they might confiscate my personal electronic gear for examination at anytime. So it's best to limit person information at work. This is especially true the tighter the security policy is. Even your phone might not be safe from data dumping by company security personnel.
That said, at most companies reason will likely prevail however be prepared for it not prevailing. A portable hard drive that you can detach in seconds might be best. Never leave it in the desk but always carry it with you in your pocket or you risk losing it.
As a consultant often new equipment is needed for the job when I work off site, for example a new spiffy computer, so I arrange for it to be part of the payment for work. This way I can use the equipment as I wish and these complications disappear for the most part. However, in some cases especially when work of high value is being done it's best to not do anything with the equipment that is personal or that leaves any personal data on the computer in case there are any troubles.
The best thing is to find out your company's policies and if needed get permission in writing from management who have the authority beforehand.
So tread with care and make use of removable data sticks or drives. These can also be helpful to have your own OS installed on a laptop. The best is likely to just travel with your own equipment to work making sure it's well marked and well secured against theft by other employees or company management!
Ok... it's all good... I just couldn't resist once it had entered my brain...
By your command supreme leader.
Not only that but if they are truly serving the public good then they have nothing to hide from the public at all! There is zero need for them to hide anything about their activities. Any hint that they are hiding anything should immediately bring about their removal from public service without any hesitation what so ever and they should also be barred from ever serving in a public capacity ever again even as a sub contractor. Identification of ALL PUBLIC servants is a MUST. All secrets held by governments are not in the public interest they are in the governments interest, the two are NOT the same. What is important to government is often the last thing that is good for the public. If it isn't in the public view it's not for the good of the public. Public servants MUST BE HELD to the highest possible standards of conduct.
With folks like you, yup repetition even in one sentence is necessary because you reject facts of life preferring fantasy instead.
I most certainly do not trust the google in today's political climate. That doesn't mean that they have spilled their guts, but it's very possible and highly probable as well given the power grab by Bush/Cheney and other arrogants who think they run the world (or those that desire to).
"You're a twat. ... In short, please STFU or at least do some reading before you post on a complicated subject. Slashdot is full enough of loud, uninformed morons." - AC
Ok, that's a great way to start off a dialog. Oh, right you're attempting to incite a flame war. How interesting.
"The warrantless wiretapping program was established by executive order, not the PATRIOT Act." - AC
So what? It's irrelevant, not that I agree with the accuracy of your statements. The point that you miss is that they can spy on us if they want to and it's better to assume that they are than that they are not especially after the entire wiretapping that they did do illegally.
There is a wee little thing called the Patriot Act dude that they used to spy on Americans telephone calls and internet messages so hooking into The Google wouldn't be a problem at all.
Just think about it, you're George Bush or Dick Cheney and The Google is just sitting there ripe for the plucking. Done deal dude. The USA Government very likely has all the access they want at Google to anything at all in real time with all details. If it's not true assume it is to be on the safe side.
Yes, there are some companies who use the GPL with varying degrees of success and for a variety of reasons. The article is showing that there are many companies that choose to explicitly avoid the use of the GPL for a variety of reasons including but not limited to the very reasons that those other companies choose the GPL!!! The FORCED distribution of source code to modified GPL projects means just what the article says, it's a serious limitation for the business and loss of revenue potential. That's fine for some but not for most.
It's not about stirring FUD at all. It's about educating people that the GPL isn't right for many.
In my company we have no fear of USING a GPLed program or even of shipping it with our software. What we do not do is commit lots of time and money developing an existing GPL program and giving OUR changes away for free. Sure we'll change a line or twenty if needed to fix a bug or add a simple command line option we need for example, but we'll not put in any effort to develop it further. For serious updates we prefer to maximize our profit potential so we do prefer the other actually free licenses.
When shipping and using a GPLed program in your software make sure that you keep it contained in a GPL Virus Containment Condom so that it can't infect your own software! You do this by keeping it a separate program or by putting it into a separate program if you're linking to a library. Often a command line program is one of the best forms to wrap libraries in so that you can access it without being contaminated by it.
Now you might not like the way that I think or write about the GPL but it's not FUD, it's the reality of how my company and it's people hold the GPL in low regard and as a danger to our financial endeavors.
So choose your software licenses carefully for it can have a real world impact and the GPL can destroy your business if you're not careful.
Never shake hands with GPL dude Richard Stallman and this is why. What other surprise horrors lurk in the GPL? Does anyone see that Richard Stallman is no longer qualified to lead the Free Software Foundation as a result of his disgusting public act (linked above)? If you think he should still lead the GPL and GNU and FSF as a public figure then does that mean that you support people doing what he did in public (or even in private)? Maybe it's time to publicly rebuke Richard Stallman for his actions in the above linked item. Shivers. Get some manners Richard, please.
That's funny, I'm the one who started this thread sumdumass so technically it's you who is refusing to leave.
Actually your posts have devolved to flame incitement and nothing more. Just empty nothings of a person who kills people rather than coming up with other solutions. Murderer.
Lame troll nonsense dude.
Again an unnecessary attack against my grandpa... such childish behavior dude. Demonstrates that you are attempting to flame, yet failing.
If you don't support indiscriminate murderous killing then you can't support the USA Government and it's actions in doing indiscriminate murders of innocents euphemistically known as "collateral damage". By supporting them you are a mass murderer. It really is that simple.
It matters not what you think of me sumdumass, what matters are the facts in objective reality where you are a mass murderer and a supporter of mass murder by your Government.
SumDumAss, your desires are 100% irrelevant. What matters is what actions you take and what groups and political policies you support! By supporting mass murder you thus become, already are, a mass murderer. By supporting the mass murder of your government you are giving permission for those that they attack to attack you back - basic international law.
That's not adding anything new and is simply an ad hominem troll flame attack dude.
"Then the rest of the world should attempt to stop the US." - sumdumass (really that's the guys appropriately self chosen handle).
CORRECTION: Ok, clearly you [sumdumass] can NOT even comprehend even basic concepts put forward in a discussion.
"Then the rest of the world should attempt to stop the US."
Ok, clearly you can even comprehend even basic concepts put forward in a discussion.
"Of course your a coward troll who comes from a line of cowards so I guess you might be dense. ... You should run off and have homosexual sex with your granddaddy who help Jews and queers escape the nazi's instead of defending his country from the invading army just before he ran."
And you call me the troll, how sad.
"... I do know the difference between evil humans over innocent humans and will not expect them to get away with murder ..."
Very strange coming from an evil human being who supports indiscriminate mass murder. So I guess you need to not let yourself get away with murder. Arrest yourself for the mass murdering polices you support. Oh, and while you're at it it's likely that you're not telling the truth about what really happened so arrest yourself for those two murders too.
Obviously you can't see how your own stated policy applies to yourself, but then people like you only see things from your one sided point of view and ignore the damage you do in the world only concerned with your own perceived victories.
You've not schooled anyone except in how evil and murderous you are. I guess you got a taste for it.
Hey, this is my thread so you go and troll somewhere else some dumb ass.
"It's clear that you are a troll."
Lame. Clearly you don't get what other people write dude sumdumass; fullfilling your screen name I guess. Whatever dude.
"You can make shit up all you want but that will not make you right. Until Bin laden or anyone involve with 9/11 says it was for different reasons, you are just making it up."
What? That's a good one. You think that I wrote those quotes of OBL? That's a good one. No, those are quotes attributed to him sumdumass.
I didn't miss anything, in fact I put the quote there!
The USA has a long history of drawing blood in the region in one way or another thinking it has impunity to do so. As the rest of the world now knows the USA doesn't have impunity in it's actions... I just wonder when the people in America will figure that out.
Drawing of first blood is irrelevant anyhow since even if that question were settled (which it can't be due to the many claims and counter claims) it wouldn't stop the cycle of violence. What will stop the cycle of violence is those that make the decisions to conduct violence stop choosing violence as their solution to problems. Until then it'll keep going back and forth. This is a basic notion that isn't even disputed. Many disputes have been finally settled only once the violence stopped. Again look to history for examples. Sometimes it takes a long time for it to happen which is too bad for all those needlessly killed as the waring parties keep at their deadly murderous killing dance.
I've made up no history murderous sumdumass. How do you think I've made up history? That's really funny. As for reality, I'm fully connected. You see I do actually understand your point of view, I used to hold something similar in my foolish years then this thing called wisdom happened... I value human life... clearly you don't which is why it's so easy for you to kill and murder people indiscriminately with your politics which is just an open invitation for your enemies (OBL for example) to strike back against your policies. When you get that then maybe you'll be on your way back to reality and compassion from that dark place you inhabit now.
"sumdumbass" - you sure picked a great name that fits you.
Sigh... claiming someone is a troll when obviously they are not is the last refuge of someone who has no arguments left... you keep saying that I'm a troll yet here I am asking cogent questions and making cogent and on point statements relevant to the topic at hand. None of this is intended to inflame you. Obviously I didn't know that you had killed two people in self defense until you said so (assuming your story is factual). So enough of the troll silliness... at best it's lame that's why I never use it first and then only use it to point out that from my point of view the other party could be said to be one too. So whatever, it's meaningless to me anyhow.
I wrote: "Oh, 911 was a revenge military style based response by Al-Qaeda to prior USA Attacks against Al-Qaeda." and you foolishly replied "No it was not and it was never claimed to have been by Al Qeada or anyone involved with them. ... bla bla bla ...".
You really do need to get some history into you sumdumass. While I don't support either Bin Laden's and his group(s) actions nor those of Bush/Cheney/Blair/Obama/Biden/... I can read the history and comprehend it. You know people can have more than one reason for doing a thing? You do know that don't you?
"As for their accusations of terrorizing the innocent, the children, and the women, these are in the category of 'accusing others with their own affliction in order to fool the masses.' The evidence overwhelmingly shows America and Israel killing the weaker men, women and children in the Muslim world and elsewhere. A few examples of this are seen in the recent Qana massacre in Lebanon, and the death of more than 600,000 Iraqi children because of the shortage of food and medicine which resulted from the boycotts and sanctions against the Muslim Iraqi people, also their withholding of arms from the Muslims of Bosnia-Herzegovina leaving them prey to the Christian Serbians who massacred and raped in a manner not seen in contemporary history. Not to forget the dropping of the H-bombs on cities with their entire populations of children, elderly, and women, on purpose, and in a premeditated manner as was the case with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Osama bin Laden, In Nida'ul Islam magazine October-November 1996"
Here's another one more recent.
"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.
Osama bin Laden, Admitting responsibility for attacks on US on September 11, 2001, on videotape shown on Al Jazeera, October 29, 2004"
So the revenge cycle is perpetuated by Osama Bin Laden and the United States of America doling out destruction and death and murder and killing on a mass scale across the globe. They are both killing machines with little or no regard for human life, that is why they and those that support their mass murderous policies are vile evil monsters. When you get that that is why you are one of these monsters you'll get what I'm saying. Until then you're a lost cause and are a member of the dark side of the forces of good and evil.
Of course you'd believe the bullshit peddled by your media and politicians and political nationalism of the USA that you'd think that they drew first blood. How short are the memories of the foolish and dumb asses.
You perpetuate the revenge killing cycle and THUS are THE PROBLEM especially to those that are being killed now and the families and friends of those that have been killed. You are no different than Osama Bin
That's funny but completely off target. I don't drink the Dew, although it can be a refreshing beverage! Also my Mom's basement is over 3,000 miles away and I've not been in it for years, er, decades. Cheeto's, ick.
Yes, at when consulting at a real corporation they would only allow IE, that's why if you were to actually read my posting I said for MS to adopt HTML5... but then I guess the comprehension part of reading wasn't your strong suit in school.
I really don't care which browser people use. I use three currently: Firefox, Chrome, and Safari on my Macs and Windows and *BSD boxes. Oh, and on occasion MSIE when it's the only choice. Funny enough that's rare nowadays - except at certain clients.
As for reality... comprehension is important for understanding reality too.
But just for you I can adjust my words "Who uses IE anymore?" to be "Who in the know uses IE anymore?". There you go.
Microsoft is the last one standing when it comes to the browser musical chairs... how exactly is their browser relevant anymore? Who uses it? WTF? Why?
Video and Audio tags are very cool. Get OGGed and Theora'd out Msie.
Get with HTML5 Msie!