Subject: CAT vs NAT
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:21:00 -0500
From: anon@netscape.net
To: Ellis299@aol.com
In your article CAT vs NAT you missed many saliant and critical points. Until recently multiple IP addresses were unavailable for the home user, requiring a "business" connection at considerably higher prices, and usually the service was not provided to home. Home office users had no choice, the service providers incalcitance and myopia could not stand in the way of need and innovation. Case in point, my co-worker was one of the test users for @Home. The day the service was installed he tried to hook up his second computer and was told by @Home that he was limited by @Home to one address and try as he may they would not sell him a second address. With a newborn in arms and needing both parents to work from home, he installed a beta version of Novell's NAT product and promptly called @Home for help to properly configure his side of the network. He made them aware of what he was doing and they told him he was in violation of his agreement. He asked for a second connection and box to the h ome, but they refused. With thier help he completed the NAT installation and the problem solved, or in your opinion, crime perpetrated.
Let me offer one more thought. Any scheme invented by the Cable Operators that flew in the face of innovation or proved costly, would be defeated by the droves of people who needed innovation. Imagine the headache and huge cost the cable operator could bear in any investigation of NAT usage that involved physical inspection as electronic efforts would be both disguised by real users and ghosted by software designed to mimic NAT usage and network loads. Now wouldn't that be a scary idea?
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I'm using the Riccochet to connect to the net with my Palm. The size is a bit large, but the speed is okay for now (33k) and about to radically improve to 64k or 128k depending on location and equipment. I pay flat rate and really enjoy it. Since I live on a boat, this is the best option for me. Now I need to improve reception which is the downside of the current system, but that too will change as MCI rolls out the service.
RSP and RTSP or Real Time Streaming Protocol requires special support from the proxy server and fails under most NAT implementations.
RealAudio/Video uses HTTP which is widely supported but far less efficient. Funny thing is that I am using NAT on my Cisco router and RTSP fails, even though Cisco supports RTSP for CiscoTV. So much for Cisco supporting standards.
I'm about to spark up my Novell Border Manager to see if it supports RTSP and if Novell's NAT works.
Rumors of the demise of the NLM based Notes server were rampant in '97. It was the hope (and may still be) that Dr. Schmidt's relationship with Notes Co. would foster a new realtionship based on a Java Deployment.
Everything that PepsiMan stood for is dead at Apple. No Games; No consumer products; rise in prices; The Board, Copeland, the Newton, all things that Steve had to kill and excise from Apple so as to improve the Corporate Fen Shui and assert his revenge on those who stole his company and dumped him like a jilted lover.
Apple today is so much more exciting than PepsiMan's off-white computing, even if Jobs did throw the baby out with the bath water.
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Subject: CAT vs NAT
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:21:00 -0500
From: anon@netscape.net
To: Ellis299@aol.com
In your article CAT vs NAT you missed many saliant and critical points. Until recently multiple IP addresses were unavailable for the home user, requiring a "business" connection at considerably higher prices, and usually the service was not provided to home. Home office users had no choice, the service providers incalcitance and myopia could not stand in the way of need and innovation. Case in point, my co-worker was one of the test users for @Home. The day the service was installed he tried to hook up his second computer and was told by @Home that he was limited by @Home to one address and try as he may they would not sell him a second address. With a newborn in arms and needing both parents to work from home, he installed a beta version of Novell's NAT product and promptly called @Home for help to properly configure his side of the network. He made them aware of what he was doing and they told him he was in violation of his agreement. He asked for a second connection and box to the h ome, but they refused. With thier help he completed the NAT installation and the problem solved, or in your opinion, crime perpetrated.
Let me offer one more thought. Any scheme invented by the Cable Operators that flew in the face of innovation or proved costly, would be defeated by the droves of people who needed innovation. Imagine the headache and huge cost the cable operator could bear in any investigation of NAT usage that involved physical inspection as electronic efforts would be both disguised by real users and ghosted by software designed to mimic NAT usage and network loads. Now wouldn't that be a scary idea?
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I'm using the Riccochet to connect to the net with my Palm. The size is a bit large, but the speed is okay for now (33k) and about to radically improve to 64k or 128k depending on location and equipment. I pay flat rate and really enjoy it. Since I live on a boat, this is the best option for me. Now I need to improve reception which is the downside of the current system, but that too will change as MCI rolls out the service.
RSP and RTSP or Real Time Streaming Protocol requires special support from the proxy server and fails under most NAT implementations.
RealAudio/Video uses HTTP which is widely supported but far less efficient. Funny thing is that I am using NAT on my Cisco router and RTSP fails, even though Cisco supports RTSP for CiscoTV. So much for Cisco supporting standards.
I'm about to spark up my Novell Border Manager to see if it supports RTSP and if Novell's NAT works.
Rumors of the demise of the NLM based Notes server were rampant in '97. It was the hope (and may still be) that Dr. Schmidt's relationship with Notes Co. would foster a new realtionship based on a Java Deployment.
So much for hope...
"If you hate Microsoft, you can use Linux. It has all the basics necessary to get you through your computing life"
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Everything that PepsiMan stood for is dead at Apple. No Games; No consumer products; rise in prices; The Board, Copeland, the Newton, all things that Steve had to kill and excise from Apple so as to improve the Corporate Fen Shui and assert his revenge on those who stole his company and dumped him like a jilted lover.
Apple today is so much more exciting than PepsiMan's off-white computing, even if Jobs did throw the baby out with the bath water.
Until I get bandwidth, I'm stuck doing my surfing from work. But that doesn't mean I have to run Windoze at home.