If i give you permission to use my cell phone in a private matter, sure. If i don't give you permission, then no. And chances are, they did not give her permission to do that sort of thing.
there's an expectation of privacy there. Is there an expectation of privacy when you're logged into someone elses computer? i really don't think so. but meh. whatever.
Umm well there's the US (we've done pretty damn well, though we're going to fall because we've strayed to far from our roots). there's certainl sucesses in socialized countries, but they're not because of the socialism. Look at hong kong, look at tiawan.
Pure capitalism is ugly as hell and does not really work at all. The reason for this is that those who get the wrong end of the stick has no other choice then to turn to crime. (At least it is the easiest way out.)
umm no. pure capitalism, as i know it, means you cannot force others to do something. so it means anything you are a part of is your choice. that means when you buy milk from the store, you're better off and the store is better off. Let's take a look at some heavily regulated industries vs little government involvement. health care: costs have risen, quality, in some aspects has gone up, in others it has gone down. But in places where government has had little influence, lasik, prices have gone down, quality has gone up. government is heavily involved in insurance now.
But hell, just look at everything you have, you spend so much less on stuff you want, as a percentage of your income, than your grandparents did. it's not because some magical government involvement made things better. it's because the government kept out, and people were free to do what they wanted, for the most part.
I'd love to hear your cases of socialism working out so well. we're about to go through a major economic crisis that's gonna affect everyone, it's largely because of government intervention. (looking at you, mr. federal reserve).
you know why? because we never realize all the benefits of free markets. So, here's a benefit, that you never see or hear about, but it's there. This would not happen if we had similiar laws and regulations for harddrives.
not directly. But thanks to the fact that in a free market, a worker can choose to work where he or she wants, guess what happens? the employers have to care about their employees, or else they'll leave. Good lord, look at all the people on slashdot, benefiting from technology, one of the places where capitalism has been allowed to thrive. What do we bitch about? meetings, coffee not being warm? booo fucking hoo.
Or let's look at hong kong. a place where government did very little. in 50 years, less than a life time, they went from being third world, to being among the richest.
So in reality, they care about the workers, because they want the most of the workers.
don't think it's possible? challenge your politician, and see how many laws they can write to protect us from exploding harddrives, or drives that can break, or get stolen or.. who knows.
this is what happens when you let free markets thrive, and don't bog them down in regulations and laws. You get nice steady improvements, and cheaper prices.
HCR has been ANYTHING but rushed through. How long has Obama been in office? The only problem with HCR is that there won't be a public option or single payer.
right the great leaders can magically cover all the details of medical coverage in such a short amount of time.
Guantanamo. You can't call a change not a change. Hell, anything I say you could just say, "But that's not a real (x)!" although that's not really an argument. It's just contradiction.
I asked what major good he's done. You list this, which is no real change, anymore than using y instead of x in a math problem. It's incredibly superficial, and changes absolutely nothing.
Yes, that's what presidents do. They send people to do things. They don't actually, you know, go pull people from collapsed buildings themselves.
he sent someone down there to speak, and that's helping haiti? right dude. Here, you're starving and your entire city has collapsed, lemme have a speaker come down there, that will help a lot.
The two wars: It's a damn shame, but, it is also exactly what Obama said he'd do on the campaign trail.
Last i recalled, he talked about ending them. He is, instead, continuing them.
Civil rights. We've stopped torture. The patriot act has been amended. We're giving trials to enemy combatants.
we didn't stop torture, there were plenty of loopholes left. Can't remember them off the top of my head. a few got a trial. a few before got a trial. and again, anyone labeled an enemy combatant can still be held indefinitely.
Foreign policy: people seem to like him: right there, 180 degrees difference from Bush
yep the rest of the world is no smarter than we are. woohoo. He's done nothing of substance as far as foreign policy goes. again there's the thing with bases around russia, there's iraq and afghanistan. At some point you and others will realize just cus he's a 'gifted speaker' doesn't really mean anything.
The economy: What more bailouts? Bush bailed the banks out, what new bailouts has Obama created?
wow. I don't know what else to say, than you must be living in la la land. He supported the bank bailouts, infact he was given credit for the fucking plan.
Oh well, guess you don't have a case. I provide examples that hold up, you provide examples that show a complete lack of research.
I asked you what major good he's done, you provide pretty much nothing. instead you want to argue about whether a plan was signed under him, or just he created it and signed by the previous president. I don't actually remember, don't care, since it was fucking obama's plan.
Healthcare reform? rushing something through is a good idea? never mind whether it will work or not, you would atleast want something that people have read. But this is atleast different from bush.
Closing Guantanamo? that's a purely political act. All the enemy combatants in the world can still be held indefinitely. So now they get housed somewhere else. No real change.
Don't ask don't tell? well, there's a major issue. It's not even gay marriage, it's something that is sort of working. There's plenty of gay people serving right now.
Helping Haiti? last i checked it was the people who were helping Haiti. Great he sent Clinton down there. woohoo.
Let's check some big issues and their equivalence with bush policy: War in iraq: Check War in afghanistan: Check(even more troops now!) Civil rights: check (patriot act, enemy combatants, torture) Economy: Check (more bailouts, more insane printing of money, bye bye US dollar) Foreign Policy: Check (people seem to like him, but as I'm pointing out, there's little substance to that. Oh and building bases along russian border sounds like a great idea to me!) Transparency: Check(didn't keep his promises of 5 days, this article, nothing of substance has changed)
The first link is bullshit, he hasn't changed the approach to the wars much at all. his plan is nearly identical to bush's. He's spending money, money that isn't there, very similar to bush. Different areas of spending it, but same affect.
The second link "Obama's first year in office has been marked by a series of significant achievements, including creating jobs as a result of the economic stimulus, eliminating wasteful spending, increasing government transparency, and expanding federal health insurance programs to cover millions more children."
All i can do is laugh. Bush could have made many similar claims, probably even did. It's all phony anyways. I dunno how people can claim he's eliminated wasteful spending. I mean the federal budget is going sky high.
bush/clinton/greenspan/bernanke and now obama all played key roles in our current economy. I personally blame greenspan and bernanke more than the presidents for the economic situation. but economic trends take years/decades. so it's not entirely unfair to blame some of the current situation on bush. But the problem is, obama is doing all the same crap over again. Yay!! i can't wait for our dollar to reach parity with the Zimbabwean dollar.
However, Obama has done far more good, and less harm, since he has been in office than Bush did in all his years.
What is the major good he's done? on almost every major issue, he's doing the same crap bush did. So he smiles more and is more charismatic, that makes it better or something? I think he's doing, overall, more harm than bush did. Which is somewhat amazing.
I used to run the same way. only problem i ever ran into was a counter strike map i dled off a popular site, had some sort of winrar exploit apparently. installed some crap.
yes they do. see all the companies making profits off of organic food and such(even though i think that's bullshit), see people investing for retirement. I think it's a little weird you would try to cite an example from china.
if the FDA didn't exist, there would be people like consumer reports, underwriters laboratories, ect. that will fill that role. So you could still wait for whatever you want.
But who do you trust more: the government (run by politics and bureaucracy) or companies (run by greed and greenbacks)
the companies need to make a decent product, to get my money. That's pretty good motivation.
The only people who don't want the FDA are ignorant people, and people who want to bilk innocent people out of there life saving based on a promise. Which one are you?
that generalization, is pretty ignorant, don't you think?
You might want to study up on why there is an FDA, look into non-regulated countries, and realize that people are no damn good at making informed decisions about areas outside their expertise.
well you're non regulated countries.. that could mean a lot of things.
I don't know a lot about cars, yet I bought a decent car.
I don't know how to make bread, yet i can buy bread.
I don't know how to make medicine, yet i can buy medicine.
I'm not an expert on almost any of the crap i buy. Yet most of the stuff I buy, is what i want, and of decent quality. Why? because of market forces. very little to do with regulations by government. Because guess what? people tend not to waste their money on crap that doesn't give them what they want for what they spent on it.
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nope i didn't. then in this case i would say the company shouldn't be able to.
If i give you permission to use my cell phone in a private matter, sure. If i don't give you permission, then no. And chances are, they did not give her permission to do that sort of thing.
there's an expectation of privacy there. Is there an expectation of privacy when you're logged into someone elses computer? i really don't think so. but meh. whatever.
yeah because they wouldn't have wanted to show off their GWT stuff...
Although, this was more of a, this sounds like a neat hack, let's do it, than anything else.
If you do something on someone else's property, they don't have a right to observe it?
yeah, mods are so fair. parent gets neutral mod, i get -1 troll. hahaha. biased much?
Umm well there's the US (we've done pretty damn well, though we're going to fall because we've strayed to far from our roots). there's certainl sucesses in socialized countries, but they're not because of the socialism. Look at hong kong, look at tiawan.
Pure capitalism is ugly as hell and does not really work at all. The reason for this is that those who get the wrong end of the stick has no other choice then to turn to crime. (At least it is the easiest way out.)
umm no. pure capitalism, as i know it, means you cannot force others to do something. so it means anything you are a part of is your choice. that means when you buy milk from the store, you're better off and the store is better off. Let's take a look at some heavily regulated industries vs little government involvement. health care: costs have risen, quality, in some aspects has gone up, in others it has gone down. But in places where government has had little influence, lasik, prices have gone down, quality has gone up. government is heavily involved in insurance now.
But hell, just look at everything you have, you spend so much less on stuff you want, as a percentage of your income, than your grandparents did. it's not because some magical government involvement made things better. it's because the government kept out, and people were free to do what they wanted, for the most part.
I'd love to hear your cases of socialism working out so well. we're about to go through a major economic crisis that's gonna affect everyone, it's largely because of government intervention. (looking at you, mr. federal reserve).
offtopic but..
John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
Then he would have changed his view a long time ago :P
lol and your alternative is? socialism? fascism? capitalism isn't always pretty, but it works better than anything else.
you know why? because we never realize all the benefits of free markets. So, here's a benefit, that you never see or hear about, but it's there. This would not happen if we had similiar laws and regulations for harddrives.
not directly. But thanks to the fact that in a free market, a worker can choose to work where he or she wants, guess what happens? the employers have to care about their employees, or else they'll leave. Good lord, look at all the people on slashdot, benefiting from technology, one of the places where capitalism has been allowed to thrive. What do we bitch about? meetings, coffee not being warm? booo fucking hoo.
Or let's look at hong kong. a place where government did very little. in 50 years, less than a life time, they went from being third world, to being among the richest.
So in reality, they care about the workers, because they want the most of the workers.
don't think it's possible? challenge your politician, and see how many laws they can write to protect us from exploding harddrives, or drives that can break, or get stolen or.. who knows.
such an insightful comment there! lol
this is what happens when you let free markets thrive, and don't bog them down in regulations and laws. You get nice steady improvements, and cheaper prices.
Well, if many people are right, china will be the economic center of this century, so, they could be losing out on a lot of potential.
HCR has been ANYTHING but rushed through. How long has Obama been in office? The only problem with HCR is that there won't be a public option or single payer.
right the great leaders can magically cover all the details of medical coverage in such a short amount of time.
Guantanamo. You can't call a change not a change. Hell, anything I say you could just say, "But that's not a real (x)!" although that's not really an argument. It's just contradiction.
I asked what major good he's done. You list this, which is no real change, anymore than using y instead of x in a math problem. It's incredibly superficial, and changes absolutely nothing.
Yes, that's what presidents do. They send people to do things. They don't actually, you know, go pull people from collapsed buildings themselves.
he sent someone down there to speak, and that's helping haiti? right dude. Here, you're starving and your entire city has collapsed, lemme have a speaker come down there, that will help a lot.
The two wars: It's a damn shame, but, it is also exactly what Obama said he'd do on the campaign trail.
Last i recalled, he talked about ending them. He is, instead, continuing them.
Civil rights. We've stopped torture. The patriot act has been amended. We're giving trials to enemy combatants.
we didn't stop torture, there were plenty of loopholes left. Can't remember them off the top of my head. a few got a trial. a few before got a trial. and again, anyone labeled an enemy combatant can still be held indefinitely.
Foreign policy: people seem to like him: right there, 180 degrees difference from Bush
yep the rest of the world is no smarter than we are. woohoo. He's done nothing of substance as far as foreign policy goes. again there's the thing with bases around russia, there's iraq and afghanistan. At some point you and others will realize just cus he's a 'gifted speaker' doesn't really mean anything.
The economy: What more bailouts? Bush bailed the banks out, what new bailouts has Obama created?
wow. I don't know what else to say, than you must be living in la la land. He supported the bank bailouts, infact he was given credit for the fucking plan.
Oh well, guess you don't have a case. I provide examples that hold up, you provide examples that show a complete lack of research.
I asked you what major good he's done, you provide pretty much nothing. instead you want to argue about whether a plan was signed under him, or just he created it and signed by the previous president. I don't actually remember, don't care, since it was fucking obama's plan.
Healthcare reform? rushing something through is a good idea? never mind whether it will work or not, you would atleast want something that people have read. But this is atleast different from bush.
Closing Guantanamo? that's a purely political act. All the enemy combatants in the world can still be held indefinitely. So now they get housed somewhere else. No real change.
Don't ask don't tell? well, there's a major issue. It's not even gay marriage, it's something that is sort of working. There's plenty of gay people serving right now.
Helping Haiti? last i checked it was the people who were helping Haiti. Great he sent Clinton down there. woohoo.
Let's check some big issues and their equivalence with bush policy:
War in iraq: Check
War in afghanistan: Check(even more troops now!)
Civil rights: check (patriot act, enemy combatants, torture)
Economy: Check (more bailouts, more insane printing of money, bye bye US dollar)
Foreign Policy: Check (people seem to like him, but as I'm pointing out, there's little substance to that. Oh and building bases along russian border sounds like a great idea to me!)
Transparency: Check(didn't keep his promises of 5 days, this article, nothing of substance has changed)
The first link is bullshit, he hasn't changed the approach to the wars much at all. his plan is nearly identical to bush's. He's spending money, money that isn't there, very similar to bush. Different areas of spending it, but same affect.
The second link "Obama's first year in office has been marked by a series of significant achievements, including creating jobs as a result of the economic stimulus, eliminating wasteful spending, increasing government transparency, and expanding federal health insurance programs to cover millions more children."
All i can do is laugh. Bush could have made many similar claims, probably even did. It's all phony anyways. I dunno how people can claim he's eliminated wasteful spending. I mean the federal budget is going sky high.
Third link seems like more of the same.
bush/clinton/greenspan/bernanke and now obama all played key roles in our current economy. I personally blame greenspan and bernanke more than the presidents for the economic situation. but economic trends take years/decades. so it's not entirely unfair to blame some of the current situation on bush. But the problem is, obama is doing all the same crap over again. Yay!! i can't wait for our dollar to reach parity with the Zimbabwean dollar.
However, Obama has done far more good, and less harm, since he has been in office than Bush did in all his years.
What is the major good he's done? on almost every major issue, he's doing the same crap bush did. So he smiles more and is more charismatic, that makes it better or something? I think he's doing, overall, more harm than bush did. Which is somewhat amazing.
I used to run the same way. only problem i ever ran into was a counter strike map i dled off a popular site, had some sort of winrar exploit apparently. installed some crap.
sure. the thing is the best form of universal healthcare is the free market.
i'd love to hear about how free trade caused the us to devalue the dollar.
yes they do. see all the companies making profits off of organic food and such(even though i think that's bullshit), see people investing for retirement. I think it's a little weird you would try to cite an example from china.
if the FDA didn't exist, there would be people like consumer reports, underwriters laboratories, ect. that will fill that role. So you could still wait for whatever you want.
But who do you trust more: the government (run by politics and bureaucracy) or companies (run by greed and greenbacks)
the companies need to make a decent product, to get my money. That's pretty good motivation.
The only people who don't want the FDA are ignorant people, and people who want to bilk innocent people out of there life saving based on a promise. Which one are you?
that generalization, is pretty ignorant, don't you think?
You might want to study up on why there is an FDA, look into non-regulated countries, and realize that people are no damn good at making informed decisions about areas outside their expertise.
well you're non regulated countries.. that could mean a lot of things.
I don't know a lot about cars, yet I bought a decent car.
I don't know how to make bread, yet i can buy bread.
I don't know how to make medicine, yet i can buy medicine.
I'm not an expert on almost any of the crap i buy. Yet most of the stuff I buy, is what i want, and of decent quality. Why? because of market forces. very little to do with regulations by government. Because guess what? people tend not to waste their money on crap that doesn't give them what they want for what they spent on it.