Users want something that just works, out of the box Users want less choices Users don't want to learn something new Users don't want something that's not easy plus others i'm not able to think of off the top of my head.
while great strides have been made, it's still not there. I was hopeful ubuntu might do it. And who knows, maybe it will someday.
Sure... maybe you should care a bit more about what happens with how the money in investment (in particular retirement) funds is spent. At least governments are somewhat open and accountable...
You missed part about me not being able to do anything or have any say over it. the government can fund the entire NBA and i'm helpless to stop it short of moving out of country. The government is forcing me to pay for something, the CEO only wishes he had that power.
Has Zimbabwe stopped existing? it vanished in a puff of whatever libertarians smoke?
Their money basically has.
This is the fundamental difference between states and corporations. No matter what you do, as a state, as long as you stay independent, people can't repossess you. States do not fail unless they get conquered.
So states can't fail, unless they fail?
Also, this imbecilic notion that the right thing should not be done on the grounds that some piece of paper written many centuries ago did not specifically specify it needs to die. And that is equally valid for all religions.
You're right, we just need the government to do whatever it wants, unconstrained. You know what's that's called? that's called a dictatorship. The constitution was written to prevent those very things, and does decently at, except people like you just want to ignore it whenever it doesn't suit them.
ability to be read by third party portability (gl having that C++ app run on z/OS, where as with java quite doable.) availability of third party libraries, that will work. Also, HF trying to port that C++ library that you now need to compile to an.so(or is it.sl?) on AIX. far less gotchas and weird oddities of the language (friends for instance) consistency because java is compile once, for every platform, you only have to deal with one compiler, where as with C++.. every platform..
The argument goes like this: if the private sector invests in something risky and fails, it is Capitalism and it is Good; when the government does it, itis Socialism, and it is Bad.
When someone else spends their money on something, good for them. If it works out, great, if it doesn't, that sucks.
When someone else spends my money without my consent, that's typically called theft. And albeit that in some cases that's acceptable, it's the exception. So when everyone wants to use my mney to fund whatever bologna project that they want done, yeah it's called socialism, among other acceptable definitions.
All the argument is specious: CEOs invest in their golfing friends' companies, and they don't invest their own money: they invest the shareholder's.
All people who gave their money to that CEO to do that. No coercion.
The question is, since the government is this huge corporation which cannot go bankrupt, what should it invest in?
The government can go bankrupt. Ask Zimbabwe. Also the government is not suppose to invest money, other than the things laid out in the constitution. Which most of the crap that they spend their money on, is not.
On a more philosophical note, it is wholly reasonable that the governement does the high-risk stuff: it cannot fail
Seriously, it cannot fail? Have you ever opened a history book? And no, it's not reasonable, again that whole constitution thing.
and if google+ takes over facebook, there's another source of income. I'd be more worried about a company not trying to do these sorts of things myself, but i guess it doesn't matter i'm not a stock holder anyway lol.
Yeah all those civil rights activists would have just given up. Not like they would have boycotted stores that still had whites only signs.
But i'm never going to convince you of this. You just want to believe that those southerners were all incredibly racist and thank god we forced them to not be racist.
The funny part about all this, is it's a relatively minor point in terms of practicality in the current state of the US government (although important in terms of principle). Everyone wants to bring it up, because they think they've got a nice gotcha on the libertarian view.
Jim Crow laws forced segregation, which is certainly not libertarian/free market. Ending them was all that was needed. People would have taken care of any places that still served whites only and crap like that, by boycotting as they were already doing.
You're another example of someone who will willfully cheer the government on as they fuck us in the ass.
I would say just start using some of these tools on your own and see if they get traction. Just setup a CVS/SVN server and start using it. Setup Cruisecontrol or hudson or whatever, and start using it. You can spend a lot of time arguing about stupid shit, or just do it, and have everything ready to go and show them. Often time people will just use the excuse about not having "enough time" and crap like that.
And I don't think it would be cowardly to leave. If it's a helpless situation, only a fool would stay.
Yeah, I guess you're correct. He wants to reset the clock to 1860 when it was still legal for states to individually determine that owning slaves was legal.
My recollection of John Carmack's tweets was that, that was not really the limiting factor. The limiting factor was the way mega texturing worked (which I don't recall at all). I dunno how to effectively search twitter or i'd go find those tweets lol.
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i dunno, it's available in single player.
as opposed to the OWS, which is a message from a child.
you can turn them off.
there's a lot of reasons.
Users want something that just works, out of the box
Users want less choices
Users don't want to learn something new
Users don't want something that's not easy
plus others i'm not able to think of off the top of my head.
while great strides have been made, it's still not there. I was hopeful ubuntu might do it. And who knows, maybe it will someday.
The summary's bit about power users is stupid.
So, you work in academics then?
Sure... maybe you should care a bit more about what happens with how the money in investment (in particular retirement) funds is spent. At least governments are somewhat open and accountable...
You missed part about me not being able to do anything or have any say over it. the government can fund the entire NBA and i'm helpless to stop it short of moving out of country. The government is forcing me to pay for something, the CEO only wishes he had that power.
Has Zimbabwe stopped existing? it vanished in a puff of whatever libertarians smoke?
Their money basically has.
This is the fundamental difference between states and corporations. No matter what you do, as a state, as long as you stay independent, people can't repossess you. States do not fail unless they get conquered.
So states can't fail, unless they fail?
Also, this imbecilic notion that the right thing should not be done on the grounds that some piece of paper written many centuries ago did not specifically specify it needs to die. And that is equally valid for all religions.
You're right, we just need the government to do whatever it wants, unconstrained. You know what's that's called? that's called a dictatorship. The constitution was written to prevent those very things, and does decently at, except people like you just want to ignore it whenever it doesn't suit them.
IMO
ability to be read by third party .so(or is it .sl?) on AIX.
portability (gl having that C++ app run on z/OS, where as with java quite doable.)
availability of third party libraries, that will work. Also, HF trying to port that C++ library that you now need to compile to an
far less gotchas and weird oddities of the language (friends for instance)
consistency because java is compile once, for every platform, you only have to deal with one compiler, where as with C++.. every platform..
a few points off the top of my head
The argument goes like this: if the private sector invests in something risky and fails, it is Capitalism and it is Good; when the government does it, itis Socialism, and it is Bad.
When someone else spends their money on something, good for them. If it works out, great, if it doesn't, that sucks.
When someone else spends my money without my consent, that's typically called theft. And albeit that in some cases that's acceptable, it's the exception. So when everyone wants to use my mney to fund whatever bologna project that they want done, yeah it's called socialism, among other acceptable definitions.
All the argument is specious: CEOs invest in their golfing friends' companies, and they don't invest their own money: they invest the shareholder's.
All people who gave their money to that CEO to do that. No coercion.
The question is, since the government is this huge corporation which cannot go bankrupt, what should it invest in?
The government can go bankrupt. Ask Zimbabwe. Also the government is not suppose to invest money, other than the things laid out in the constitution. Which most of the crap that they spend their money on, is not.
On a more philosophical note, it is wholly reasonable that the governement does the high-risk stuff: it cannot fail
Seriously, it cannot fail? Have you ever opened a history book? And no, it's not reasonable, again that whole constitution thing.
and if google+ takes over facebook, there's another source of income. I'd be more worried about a company not trying to do these sorts of things myself, but i guess it doesn't matter i'm not a stock holder anyway lol.
Yeah all those civil rights activists would have just given up. Not like they would have boycotted stores that still had whites only signs.
But i'm never going to convince you of this. You just want to believe that those southerners were all incredibly racist and thank god we forced them to not be racist.
The funny part about all this, is it's a relatively minor point in terms of practicality in the current state of the US government (although important in terms of principle). Everyone wants to bring it up, because they think they've got a nice gotcha on the libertarian view.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/13/technology/google_earnings/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2
yeah both google and microsoft are still putting billions in the bank.
can't turn them into opportunities.
which requires risk and anyone knows that. And google+ the risk/reward ratio was probably great for share holders.
Or maybe it was exactly as described. that quote "Never attribute to malice..." comes to mind.
I think the billions in the bank speak for themselves..
you link to a page showing many of the spending increases and then you say he didn't increase spending?
Oh damn your really got me there. After All, I said states are perfect or something?
But be sure to ignore my point.
that's great you want to ignore reality. because you don't buy it. You're not even debating what i said.
Looking at that page...
I doubt many people would question he's increased spending a shitton.
Jim Crow laws forced segregation, which is certainly not libertarian/free market. Ending them was all that was needed. People would have taken care of any places that still served whites only and crap like that, by boycotting as they were already doing.
You're another example of someone who will willfully cheer the government on as they fuck us in the ass.
guess what jim crow was? it was government. So guess what, the businesses had no freedom. Both Pauls were certainly in favor of ending jim crow laws.
yes, your business, you should be allowed to discriminate, as all businesses do, who you deal with.
And just how long do you think a business that had a whites only sign up, would last? It wouldn't. Free market working.
And freedom from government is freedom, because no one has power over you.
Paraphrasing Thomas Jeffersion, Liberty yields as government gains ground.
I would say just start using some of these tools on your own and see if they get traction. Just setup a CVS/SVN server and start using it. Setup Cruisecontrol or hudson or whatever, and start using it. You can spend a lot of time arguing about stupid shit, or just do it, and have everything ready to go and show them. Often time people will just use the excuse about not having "enough time" and crap like that.
And I don't think it would be cowardly to leave. If it's a helpless situation, only a fool would stay.
Yeah, I guess you're correct. He wants to reset the clock to 1860 when it was still legal for states to individually determine that owning slaves was legal.
Your comment makes you quite the idiot as well.
It's funny you complain about swing and then bring up an example of eclipse, which is not swing.
It's true java uses up too much memory in general. There's also many complaints about swing, but you don't know what you're talking about.
And eclipse, btw, does a ton of shit. Not that it should eat up .5 GB of memory, but..
My recollection of John Carmack's tweets was that, that was not really the limiting factor. The limiting factor was the way mega texturing worked (which I don't recall at all). I dunno how to effectively search twitter or i'd go find those tweets lol.