People are not going to give up and this is going to cause some serious innovation.
Gnutella is a great idea, but in my opinion, it doesn't scale like Opennap which I even find better than Napster!
If they shut this down, what replaces it will be unstoppable. I'm don't advocate piracy, but with the technology today, really it seems impossible to stop this peer-to-peer file sharing.
I've only recently got into music sharing (gotta love broadband!:) and the first thing I downloaded was LOPSTER which put me on to part of the OPENNAP network.
I was really impressed, then I connected into musiccity who have about 20 servers chained together. Last night there were 12,000 users and about 15 terrabytes of files to download.(That is any file, not just MP3!)
I've figured out how to make Lopster connect into the "real" Napster servers and at the same time, there were about 7000 users with only 4 terrabytes of data shared.
This says a few things to me:
1) Opennap is bigger than Napster
2) Opennap users are more prone to sharing
3) The signal to noise level is much much better
All I can say is that Lopster is an excellent client (get the CVS version if possible) and that the opennap servers are in my opinion better than the whole Napster business in the first place.
Napster is dead, hail the OpenNap network!
Now we'll see how long before they try to shut Opennap down. I think, the sooner the better, because each time they try to close the doors, the system will become stealthier and harder to stop.
It is all over for the record industry as far as I'm concerned and I'm not even a music fan!!
I don't advocate piracy, but when I can download exactly what I want, faster than I can listen to it and faster than I could even get to the record store. What possible motive am I going to have to hand over cash for overpriced media?
I work in security and holes are discovered all the time.
This one doesn't look that easy to exploit (closed source). But when you have the possibility to infect millions of computers, I expect that someone will spend the time at least producing a Windows/IE exploit.
Lots of windows mail readers seem to use IE embedded to view content, so I'm wondering if this could work as an email virus too.
I'm sure there are exploits for many other plugins on all browsers, but with flash installed by default these days, this looks on the face of it to be one of the most serious security flaws to be announced in recent years.
Don't be surprised by the slowness of a vendor to respond, this is typical. I've seen serious security flaws on popular server software remain unfixed for months. If this becomes a real problem, then they will probably move a lot faster!
Erm guess again! You're thinking about checking out this data with DSP and voice regognition stuff. The keyword checking is all done with analogue components and it is a total reality that they can and do already do this. What they are requesting is to be able to legally do this without any special authority. WAKE UP
Look, this isn't a commercial web host, this a university system on the JANET network. (http://www.ja.net)
If you read the letter of university regulations, facilities are only for academic purposes.
Being fairly open and nice, universities will let you put pretty much anything up on your webpage (after all you're learning!)
If they get complaints about this, they can pull your page and even your access. You don't have any rights, if you want your page to have rights, put it on a commercial webhost. If they pull the page then, you can argue the toss about their AUP.
One thing I remember from the JANET regulations, which is a whole book, is that you must not do anything to damage the university's reputation. Your webpage reflects on the whole university, not just yourself.
The actual merits of any case are not important, if the university doesn't like it, they can pull it!!!
I think the best thing anyone can do whenever a page is taken offline like this is to ensure its mirrored 10x around the world.
Each time you strike us down, we will rise up more powerful than before!
For years, slackware held on to libc5 when Redhat et al switched to libc6.
Can you explain your reasons for finally switching? Can anyone explain why libc6 is at least 6 times the size of libc5!? Why is libc6 better when almost all programs seem to link against libc5 without problems?
How does one build a libc6 based single disk Linux install? Also, whoever decided to make two incompatible versions of libc6 should be taken out and shot!
This might seem an unreasonable rant, but I didn't have any compatibility or linking problems with Linux (using since 93) until libc6 came along. I'd just like to know what the reasons behind the switch were and why libc6 is so much better that I have to waste 3mb of ram holding it?
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Well, the first shot is fired against Opennap.
People are not going to give up and this is going to cause some serious innovation.
Gnutella is a great idea, but in my opinion, it doesn't scale like Opennap which I even find better than Napster!
If they shut this down, what replaces it will be unstoppable. I'm don't advocate piracy, but with the technology today, really it seems impossible to stop this peer-to-peer file sharing.
This is a war that I'm sure they'll lose.
I've only recently got into music sharing (gotta love broadband! :) and the first thing I downloaded was LOPSTER which put me on to part of the OPENNAP network.
I was really impressed, then I connected into musiccity who have about 20 servers chained together. Last night there were 12,000 users and about 15 terrabytes of files to download.(That is any file, not just MP3!)
I've figured out how to make Lopster connect into the "real" Napster servers and at the same time, there were about 7000 users with only 4 terrabytes of data shared.
This says a few things to me:
1) Opennap is bigger than Napster
2) Opennap users are more prone to sharing
3) The signal to noise level is much much better
All I can say is that Lopster is an excellent client (get the CVS version if possible) and that the opennap servers are in my opinion better than the whole Napster business in the first place.
Napster is dead, hail the OpenNap network!
Now we'll see how long before they try to shut Opennap down. I think, the sooner the better, because each time they try to close the doors, the system will become stealthier and harder to stop.
It is all over for the record industry as far as I'm concerned and I'm not even a music fan!!
I don't advocate piracy, but when I can download exactly what I want, faster than I can listen to it and faster than I could even get to the record store. What possible motive am I going to have to hand over cash for overpriced media?
That should put a spanner in the works!
Everyone seems to have forgotten that years ago, Frau accidently left the source code for their original MP3 encoder on their FTP site!
;)
This is the basis for many open MP3 encoders today.
Perhaps they will be helpful enough to make the same mistake twice
I work in security and holes are discovered all the time.
This one doesn't look that easy to exploit (closed source). But when you have the possibility to infect millions of computers, I expect that someone will spend the time at least producing a Windows/IE exploit.
Lots of windows mail readers seem to use IE embedded to view content, so I'm wondering if this could work as an email virus too.
I'm sure there are exploits for many other plugins on all browsers, but with flash installed by default these days, this looks on the face of it to be one of the most serious security flaws to be announced in recent years.
Don't be surprised by the slowness of a vendor to respond, this is typical. I've seen serious security flaws on popular server software remain unfixed for months. If this becomes a real problem, then they will probably move a lot faster!
Erm guess again! You're thinking about checking out this data with DSP and voice regognition stuff. The keyword checking is all done with analogue components and it is a total reality that they can and do already do this. What they are requesting is to be able to legally do this without any special authority. WAKE UP
Look, this isn't a commercial web host, this a university system on the JANET network. (http://www.ja.net)
If you read the letter of university regulations, facilities are only for academic purposes.
Being fairly open and nice, universities will let you put pretty much anything up on your webpage (after all you're learning!)
If they get complaints about this, they can pull your page and even your access. You don't have any rights, if you want your page to have rights, put it on a commercial webhost. If they pull the page then, you can argue the toss about their AUP.
One thing I remember from the JANET regulations, which is a whole book, is that you must not do anything to damage the university's reputation. Your webpage reflects on the whole university, not just yourself.
The actual merits of any case are not important, if the university doesn't like it, they can pull it!!!
I think the best thing anyone can do whenever a page is taken offline like this is to ensure its mirrored 10x around the world.
Each time you strike us down, we will rise up more powerful than before!
Can you explain your reasons for finally switching? Can anyone explain why libc6 is at least 6 times the size of libc5!? Why is libc6 better when almost all programs seem to link against libc5 without problems?
How does one build a libc6 based single disk Linux install? Also, whoever decided to make two incompatible versions of libc6 should be taken out and shot!
This might seem an unreasonable rant, but I didn't have any compatibility or linking problems with Linux (using since 93) until libc6 came along. I'd just like to know what the reasons behind the switch were and why libc6 is so much better that I have to waste 3mb of ram holding it?
libc6 == bloat (IMHO)