Sure, they will likely fix these bugs eventually, but why couldn't they fix the bugs _before_ release and ship a working product?
1. If you want a piece of bug-free software, go download TeX. 2. There are plenty of people willing to install and play the game now, bugs and all. Why should those people have to wait? If you're one of the people who insists on no bugs, fine, wait a year or two and buy the game then, get all the patches and the latest video card drivers (some bugs are caused by drivers, not games). Let me play it now, you can wait.
I have never played a Bethesda game that worked on release date
That's obviously an overstatement (maybe true for very strict definitions of "work"), but I'll say this: I have a ton of hours into Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim, and when I think back about my experiences with those games I'm not frustrated from the bugs, I'm thinking about everything I enjoyed about them. Launch bugs aren't going to be around forever, and before you know it there's going to be mods released for Fallout 4 (I will be surprised if there is not already a naked chicks mod). This is what I expect from Bethesda, I expect a fun game that can very quickly get changed into a hundred different versions based on what you want to install. If there are in fact any game-stopping bugs then I expect the developer to fix them quickly, I don't have a reason to expect otherwise. I really don't care about things moving around the world when they shouldn't as long as I can enjoy the main game. I look at those little glitches and they only make me laugh when I do something like kill something and their body launches a mile into the air doing cartwheels.
But, like I said, if you want to wait, feel free to wait. No one is forcing you to buy the game now. But don't make me wait because you insist on a game that is as close to bug-free as possible. I'll play through a game like this multiple times anyway, I don't need everything to be perfect on the first go.
OK, well, then that's a pretty stupid fucking point. I'm not one of "the democrats", so hopefully you'll give me a pass if I think everyone should be paying taxes and that we should stop giving subsidies to companies making record profits, regardless of their industry and their product.
You mean 100% of the Africans who survived the famine caused by the loss of fossil fuel enabled fertilizers?
Wait, now there's no fertilizer either? Why does that need to happen? Why do you think that moving our power production away from fossil fuels necessarily means that things like fertilizer have to go away? You're saying it's not possible to get rid of most of the coal and heavy oil CO2-producing power plants without also getting rid of fertilizer? What about cars? If half the vehicles on the road switch from gas to electric does that also mean that the fertilizer industry goes belly up? Why are you claiming that two things that are seemingly unrelated (power generation and fertilizer manufacture) are necessarily so intertwined that reduction in one of them necessarily leads to the elimination of the other? You're saying it's not at all possible to switch to a more renewable energy generation system without also completely destroying the fertilizer industry?
your grandparents who starved to death when AGW "remediation" efforts bankrupted all western countries to the point they could no longer pay pensions and thus allowed all the elderly to die.
And, again, you think I'M the alarmist. That is a fucking ridiculous scenario. Those efforts will not bankrupt a single country, let alone all of them. Get a grip on your fever dreams and come back to reality. See the Citigroup report for reasons why they will not bankrupt any country at all.
When was the right time to stop using charcoal to smelt steel? Or to use whale oil to light lamps? When the market dictates we change.
Ahh, the almighty free market, the one that made it so that we had to bail out the banks because they fucked up and everyone else had to pay for it rather than let them go bankrupt and let other companies who didn't make the same mistakes buy up their assets and continue forward. That free market? I've got news for you: the free market does not exist in a vacuum. It is not a sentient being, it is made of fallible and stupid people. It is composed of the kind of people who see their industry fading into oblivion and decide to spend millions or billions of dollars on politicians to artificially prop up their failing and fading empire. That's the free market you want to put so much faith in. I don't share your faith, I want to see action, not hoping that everything works out. Hope is not a strategy.
I know economics and peak theory about 1000x better than you do, and will crush you if you try.
Ooooh, you're going to "crush" me, are you? How about the reports that Exxon did their studies starting in the 70s, and that their own scientists concluded that the "greenhouse effect" (as it was called then) was caused by their own products, and then they did an about-face and put out a massive amount of marketing and PR (using those helpful fellows from the tobacco industry, no less) to spread the disinformation that their products are actually OK and not responsible for any bad things that might happen to your little planet? How about the assertion that we have so much oil currently in storage and in reserve here in the US that if we burned it all we would seriously damage the environment? You don't give a shit about that, because you believe in the "free economy (sponsored by ExxonMobile(tm))", and you think that we can go along pumping 35+ billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere year over year and it will have zero effect on anything worldwide just because you can write out a chemistry equation. Tell you what: if you can get 10% of published science papers to agree with your "theory", then maybe it deserves something other than a dismissive wave. Otherwise, at present, virtually every published and peer-reviewed paper disagrees with you. So you'll excuse me if I think you're full of shit and if I question your motives.
It doesn't offend me, I just notice when some armchair statistician throws out his heavy opinion of some study being "bullshit" based on literally nothing other than the feeling in his gut. Why even bother to post your opinion if you're just going to discount a study and show literally no evidence to the contrary?
It's not a logical fallacy, it's a risk/reward equation. Break down the problem into the risk and reward of action versus inaction and decide what to do from there. The answer should be obvious. What is the risk of taking action on climate change? What are the possible things that can go wrong if we do that? What is the reward? What is the reward with inaction on climate change? What is the risk?
Why do you think that oil company profits and Hollywood accounting have anything at all to do with each other? These issues are not related, and I would imagine that the majority of people think that both of them are pretty ridiculous.
You're talking about it as if there isn't any cost. Do you have ANY idea how many people will starve TO DEATH if fuel becomes more expensive? Is it really worth murdering 50 million Africans in the most horrible way possible to prevent a disaster that might only be real in your mind?
And people who believe that CO2 causes temperatures to rise are the alarmists. Right.
Citigroup released a report not long ago which showed that investing in renewable energy was the more profitable way forward. In other words, that it is actually more expensive to keep using fossil fuels. Also consider this: if much of the civilized world stops using fossil fuels to generate power, will you expect the price of fuel oil to go up or down?
And, how about this: if solar power becomes a cheap reality, what is that going to do for the quality of life of those 50 million Africans?
Here's another question for you: can we continue to use fossil fuels indefinitely? If not, what is the appropriate time to begin moving to alternatives? That time obviously isn't now, according to you, so what metrics do we need to hit before it would be a good idea to start heading in the direction of renewable energy?
I came back with this: you predicted the path that would intersect with Earth. We observed the area where it should have been at a given time and found nothing was there.
So your "come back" to the hypothetical that an asteroid would hit us is to state that hey, new data shows it's not going to hit us. OK. Fantastic come back.
This is nothing to worry about, though. As we know with 100% certainty, the rate of output of greenhouse gases has zero effect on the global climate. My gut tells me that we can double the amount of CO2 we release every year and see no meaningful change in any measured statistic.
Still waiting for low lying islands to go underwater. Let that happen, then I will give your ideas a second look.
That's the attitude that keeps any meaningful change from happening. Let the mass disasters start to happen, then we'll try to figure out a solution, because it definitely won't be too late by then and fuck all of the people living near sea level anyway. Once the refugees are knocking on your door, maybe you'll give a shit then, right? Why bother to improve the energy economy of the entire planet unless there is a specific need to do it immediately, right? God forbid the fossil fuel companies wouldn't be able to post record profits for another year, when there is no more coal or oil in the ground then we can start talking about deploying things like solar and wind power. Let's use up everything we possibly can, and then start figuring out what to do next. No fucking need to try and plan for the future here, because we're all a bunch of fucking idiots just out to consume everything we possibly can.
If an asteroid was going to hit the planet in 10 years I bet you would wait until you could see it in the sky before you start thinking about if we should do anything.
What conclusion do you reach because the ice is at a high level right now? What information do you gather from that data point?
We wouldn't want to be skeptical of the scientists, right?
We should be skeptical of everything - the government and their subsidies, the record profits of fossil-fuel companies, the motivations of those companies, their marketing campaigns, their political contributions, and yes, even science in general. In fact, skepticism is pretty much at the core of the scientific method.
Then do your own study and show your own data, no one cares about your personal opinion.
Here's something fun to do: block all requests to wordpress.com and wordpress.org and then go around to news sites and wherever you can think of and notice how many things are broken - images won't load, CSS won't load, etc. A lot more sites are running on Wordpress than you think, regardless of what your "gut" is telling you. It's hard to see it because of how the sites look, but a lot of sites host a lot of resources on Wordpress servers. And, thankfully, reality doesn't depend on whether or not you want to "buy" it.
Then we've found the real WTF: sequential assignment of user IDs. Instead of relying on MySQL AUTO_INCREMENT, it should be using random_int(0, 999999999) or the like.
Right, security through obscurity is the obvious solution. If you fix the symptom then it's like the problem isn't even there.
There can't be be a case if *everyone* is allowed to assume the moniker and there is no qualification based on philosophy.
Nonsense, they define their agenda very clearly right here:
Why are we protesting, you ask?
Here is a list of many of the things we are protesting against...
* The White House's continued attacks on 'whistleblowers'.
* The NSA's illegal and unconstitutional spying on ALL American citizens.
* The corrupt courts and unconstitutional rulings against us.
* Our City, County, State, and Federal politicians creating unjust and unconstitutional taxes, laws, and fees against the people without any representation or regard for our rights and freedoms.
* The continued arrests of the people for exercising our constitutional rights.
* The detainment of political prisoners who risked everything to keep the American people informed, safe, and free.
* The continued physical, verbal, and emotional abuse being brought upon the people by law enforcement personnel.
* The use and expansion of the FBI, DHS, NSA, and other government agencies for the sole purpose of silencing free speech, and treating us like terrorists.
* The use of the media to mislead us and divide the people into warring factions, or to keep the masses uninformed and blissfully ignorant of the truth about what is happening in the world around us.
* The continuing wars that have no purpose except to keep the elite wealthy and powerful, while the rest of the world suffers from death, poverty, disease, famine, etc.
* The corporate control of all aspects of our daily lives.
* The constant poisoning of our food, water, and air.
* The allowance of rapists, molesters, and pedophiles to harm our children, while innocents are treated like criminals.
* The use of propaganda to spread fear, lies, and distrust among the people.
* The continued mistreatment of indigenous people around the world and illegal occupations of tribal lands for the sake of global expansion and development.
* The recent government shutdown without any regard for the well-being of the people.
* The mistreatment of war veterans.
* The allowance of rape culture and lack of any real justice in our courtrooms.
* Lack of transparency within our government, and the illegal use of secret courts to detain and prosecute innocent civilians.
This is, by far, not a complete list of the grievances we hold against our own government bodies, or the governments of other nations, but it shows a great and severe illness within our society; a global systemic failure that cannot continue.
You don't support the constant poisoning of our food, water, and air, do you? What about distrust among the people, are you one of those pro-distrust non-persons? I bet you are...
I would support Anonymous, but it doesn't look like they're protesting against that orca that was caught on video punting that seal. I can't really get behind a cause that is pro-seal-punting.
I think it's a non-issue for the majority of users, period. The news seems to be that if you can trick your target into installing something then you can control that device from any other device.
Even better: it appears that both the client and server are multi-platform. They claim you can control your victims from an Android device as well. The say that it works on all Unix variants, but that those offer fewer features (unspecified). It seems like they are pointing toward a Java package as the multi-platform malware.
Someone posted an "article" to Linkedin with several of the claimed features:
Ghostery does help some, but I highly doubt it will ever near 100% in terms of stopping tracking. As posted elsewhere in this thread, Privacy Badger would be another extension to look into. I don't see a problem with running multiple extensions. Adblock plus is fine for just stopping ads, and obviously Noscript is the heavy-handed way to stop a lot of this stuff also.
When you load the Facebook Connect code from a third-party site, that is Facebook tracking you. Facebook knows that your browser requested their code from the other site. They can tell which site it is. They know that you visited that site. And, if you happen to have a valid login session at Facebook or did recently, then the site you visited probably also knows your identity on Facebook. All of this data gathering is part of the ability to post to Facebook. That is how Facebook makes its money, it sells data like that. Keep in mind that you don't pay to use Facebook. You are not Facebook's customer, you are Facebook's product. Their customers are the companies that buy your data, including which sites you visit and which articles you read.
My point is that what I suggested is completely different from what ISPs are doing right now. When you host a site, does some random ISP pay you when their customer visits it? No? Then it's not the same thing, is it? What I suggested is more along the lines of what cable TV was supposed to be when it started, not ISPs that provide access to the internet in the first place. I don't expect an ISP to create what I'm talking about, that's not their job.
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Sure, they will likely fix these bugs eventually, but why couldn't they fix the bugs _before_ release and ship a working product?
1. If you want a piece of bug-free software, go download TeX.
2. There are plenty of people willing to install and play the game now, bugs and all. Why should those people have to wait? If you're one of the people who insists on no bugs, fine, wait a year or two and buy the game then, get all the patches and the latest video card drivers (some bugs are caused by drivers, not games). Let me play it now, you can wait.
I have never played a Bethesda game that worked on release date
That's obviously an overstatement (maybe true for very strict definitions of "work"), but I'll say this: I have a ton of hours into Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim, and when I think back about my experiences with those games I'm not frustrated from the bugs, I'm thinking about everything I enjoyed about them. Launch bugs aren't going to be around forever, and before you know it there's going to be mods released for Fallout 4 (I will be surprised if there is not already a naked chicks mod). This is what I expect from Bethesda, I expect a fun game that can very quickly get changed into a hundred different versions based on what you want to install. If there are in fact any game-stopping bugs then I expect the developer to fix them quickly, I don't have a reason to expect otherwise. I really don't care about things moving around the world when they shouldn't as long as I can enjoy the main game. I look at those little glitches and they only make me laugh when I do something like kill something and their body launches a mile into the air doing cartwheels.
But, like I said, if you want to wait, feel free to wait. No one is forcing you to buy the game now. But don't make me wait because you insist on a game that is as close to bug-free as possible. I'll play through a game like this multiple times anyway, I don't need everything to be perfect on the first go.
OK, well, then that's a pretty stupid fucking point. I'm not one of "the democrats", so hopefully you'll give me a pass if I think everyone should be paying taxes and that we should stop giving subsidies to companies making record profits, regardless of their industry and their product.
You mean 100% of the Africans who survived the famine caused by the loss of fossil fuel enabled fertilizers?
Wait, now there's no fertilizer either? Why does that need to happen? Why do you think that moving our power production away from fossil fuels necessarily means that things like fertilizer have to go away? You're saying it's not possible to get rid of most of the coal and heavy oil CO2-producing power plants without also getting rid of fertilizer? What about cars? If half the vehicles on the road switch from gas to electric does that also mean that the fertilizer industry goes belly up? Why are you claiming that two things that are seemingly unrelated (power generation and fertilizer manufacture) are necessarily so intertwined that reduction in one of them necessarily leads to the elimination of the other? You're saying it's not at all possible to switch to a more renewable energy generation system without also completely destroying the fertilizer industry?
your grandparents who starved to death when AGW "remediation" efforts bankrupted all western countries to the point they could no longer pay pensions and thus allowed all the elderly to die.
And, again, you think I'M the alarmist. That is a fucking ridiculous scenario. Those efforts will not bankrupt a single country, let alone all of them. Get a grip on your fever dreams and come back to reality. See the Citigroup report for reasons why they will not bankrupt any country at all.
When was the right time to stop using charcoal to smelt steel? Or to use whale oil to light lamps? When the market dictates we change.
Ahh, the almighty free market, the one that made it so that we had to bail out the banks because they fucked up and everyone else had to pay for it rather than let them go bankrupt and let other companies who didn't make the same mistakes buy up their assets and continue forward. That free market? I've got news for you: the free market does not exist in a vacuum. It is not a sentient being, it is made of fallible and stupid people. It is composed of the kind of people who see their industry fading into oblivion and decide to spend millions or billions of dollars on politicians to artificially prop up their failing and fading empire. That's the free market you want to put so much faith in. I don't share your faith, I want to see action, not hoping that everything works out. Hope is not a strategy.
I know economics and peak theory about 1000x better than you do, and will crush you if you try.
Ooooh, you're going to "crush" me, are you? How about the reports that Exxon did their studies starting in the 70s, and that their own scientists concluded that the "greenhouse effect" (as it was called then) was caused by their own products, and then they did an about-face and put out a massive amount of marketing and PR (using those helpful fellows from the tobacco industry, no less) to spread the disinformation that their products are actually OK and not responsible for any bad things that might happen to your little planet? How about the assertion that we have so much oil currently in storage and in reserve here in the US that if we burned it all we would seriously damage the environment? You don't give a shit about that, because you believe in the "free economy (sponsored by ExxonMobile(tm))", and you think that we can go along pumping 35+ billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere year over year and it will have zero effect on anything worldwide just because you can write out a chemistry equation. Tell you what: if you can get 10% of published science papers to agree with your "theory", then maybe it deserves something other than a dismissive wave. Otherwise, at present, virtually every published and peer-reviewed paper disagrees with you. So you'll excuse me if I think you're full of shit and if I question your motives.
It doesn't offend me, I just notice when some armchair statistician throws out his heavy opinion of some study being "bullshit" based on literally nothing other than the feeling in his gut. Why even bother to post your opinion if you're just going to discount a study and show literally no evidence to the contrary?
It's not a logical fallacy, it's a risk/reward equation. Break down the problem into the risk and reward of action versus inaction and decide what to do from there. The answer should be obvious. What is the risk of taking action on climate change? What are the possible things that can go wrong if we do that? What is the reward? What is the reward with inaction on climate change? What is the risk?
Why do you think that oil company profits and Hollywood accounting have anything at all to do with each other? These issues are not related, and I would imagine that the majority of people think that both of them are pretty ridiculous.
You're talking about it as if there isn't any cost. Do you have ANY idea how many people will starve TO DEATH if fuel becomes more expensive? Is it really worth murdering 50 million Africans in the most horrible way possible to prevent a disaster that might only be real in your mind?
And people who believe that CO2 causes temperatures to rise are the alarmists. Right.
Citigroup released a report not long ago which showed that investing in renewable energy was the more profitable way forward. In other words, that it is actually more expensive to keep using fossil fuels. Also consider this: if much of the civilized world stops using fossil fuels to generate power, will you expect the price of fuel oil to go up or down?
And, how about this: if solar power becomes a cheap reality, what is that going to do for the quality of life of those 50 million Africans?
Here's another question for you: can we continue to use fossil fuels indefinitely? If not, what is the appropriate time to begin moving to alternatives? That time obviously isn't now, according to you, so what metrics do we need to hit before it would be a good idea to start heading in the direction of renewable energy?
I came back with this: you predicted the path that would intersect with Earth. We observed the area where it should have been at a given time and found nothing was there.
So your "come back" to the hypothetical that an asteroid would hit us is to state that hey, new data shows it's not going to hit us. OK. Fantastic come back.
& what if their efforts do not work?
A better question is what happens if the models are correct and we do nothing.
What a flat trajectory may look like.
This is nothing to worry about, though. As we know with 100% certainty, the rate of output of greenhouse gases has zero effect on the global climate. My gut tells me that we can double the amount of CO2 we release every year and see no meaningful change in any measured statistic.
Still waiting for low lying islands to go underwater. Let that happen, then I will give your ideas a second look.
That's the attitude that keeps any meaningful change from happening. Let the mass disasters start to happen, then we'll try to figure out a solution, because it definitely won't be too late by then and fuck all of the people living near sea level anyway. Once the refugees are knocking on your door, maybe you'll give a shit then, right? Why bother to improve the energy economy of the entire planet unless there is a specific need to do it immediately, right? God forbid the fossil fuel companies wouldn't be able to post record profits for another year, when there is no more coal or oil in the ground then we can start talking about deploying things like solar and wind power. Let's use up everything we possibly can, and then start figuring out what to do next. No fucking need to try and plan for the future here, because we're all a bunch of fucking idiots just out to consume everything we possibly can.
If an asteroid was going to hit the planet in 10 years I bet you would wait until you could see it in the sky before you start thinking about if we should do anything.
What conclusion do you reach because the ice is at a high level right now? What information do you gather from that data point?
We wouldn't want to be skeptical of the scientists, right?
We should be skeptical of everything - the government and their subsidies, the record profits of fossil-fuel companies, the motivations of those companies, their marketing campaigns, their political contributions, and yes, even science in general. In fact, skepticism is pretty much at the core of the scientific method.
Then do your own study and show your own data, no one cares about your personal opinion.
Here's something fun to do: block all requests to wordpress.com and wordpress.org and then go around to news sites and wherever you can think of and notice how many things are broken - images won't load, CSS won't load, etc. A lot more sites are running on Wordpress than you think, regardless of what your "gut" is telling you. It's hard to see it because of how the sites look, but a lot of sites host a lot of resources on Wordpress servers. And, thankfully, reality doesn't depend on whether or not you want to "buy" it.
Then we've found the real WTF: sequential assignment of user IDs. Instead of relying on MySQL AUTO_INCREMENT, it should be using random_int(0, 999999999) or the like.
Right, security through obscurity is the obvious solution. If you fix the symptom then it's like the problem isn't even there.
The emoji of the people in the sauna shows them as being naked. This is highly offensive to most religious people.
I don't think Finns really give a shit. If you're worried about seeing naked people then you probably shouldn't go to Finland.
Are emojis even characters? Or just graphics?
What's the difference between a character and a graphic?
There can't be be a case if *everyone* is allowed to assume the moniker and there is no qualification based on philosophy.
Nonsense, they define their agenda very clearly right here:
Why are we protesting, you ask?
Here is a list of many of the things we are protesting against...
* The White House's continued attacks on 'whistleblowers'.
* The NSA's illegal and unconstitutional spying on ALL American citizens.
* The corrupt courts and unconstitutional rulings against us.
* Our City, County, State, and Federal politicians creating unjust and unconstitutional taxes, laws, and fees against the people without any representation or regard for our rights and freedoms.
* The continued arrests of the people for exercising our constitutional rights.
* The detainment of political prisoners who risked everything to keep the American people informed, safe, and free.
* The continued physical, verbal, and emotional abuse being brought upon the people by law enforcement personnel.
* The use and expansion of the FBI, DHS, NSA, and other government agencies for the sole purpose of silencing free speech, and treating us like terrorists.
* The use of the media to mislead us and divide the people into warring factions, or to keep the masses uninformed and blissfully ignorant of the truth about what is happening in the world around us.
* The continuing wars that have no purpose except to keep the elite wealthy and powerful, while the rest of the world suffers from death, poverty, disease, famine, etc.
* The corporate control of all aspects of our daily lives.
* The constant poisoning of our food, water, and air.
* The allowance of rapists, molesters, and pedophiles to harm our children, while innocents are treated like criminals.
* The use of propaganda to spread fear, lies, and distrust among the people.
* The continued mistreatment of indigenous people around the world and illegal occupations of tribal lands for the sake of global expansion and development.
* The recent government shutdown without any regard for the well-being of the people.
* The mistreatment of war veterans.
* The allowance of rape culture and lack of any real justice in our courtrooms.
* Lack of transparency within our government, and the illegal use of secret courts to detain and prosecute innocent civilians.
This is, by far, not a complete list of the grievances we hold against our own government bodies, or the governments of other nations, but it shows a great and severe illness within our society; a global systemic failure that cannot continue.
You don't support the constant poisoning of our food, water, and air, do you? What about distrust among the people, are you one of those pro-distrust non-persons? I bet you are...
I would support Anonymous, but it doesn't look like they're protesting against that orca that was caught on video punting that seal. I can't really get behind a cause that is pro-seal-punting.
I think it's a non-issue for the majority of users, period. The news seems to be that if you can trick your target into installing something then you can control that device from any other device.
The video here shows remote control of a Windows machine from an Android device:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse...
It appears that both the server and client are multi-platform, possibly as Java packages.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse...
Even better: it appears that both the client and server are multi-platform. They claim you can control your victims from an Android device as well. The say that it works on all Unix variants, but that those offer fewer features (unspecified). It seems like they are pointing toward a Java package as the multi-platform malware.
Someone posted an "article" to Linkedin with several of the claimed features:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse...
This knowledge - and more - can be yours by visiting omnirat.eu (while supplies last).
Ghostery does help some, but I highly doubt it will ever near 100% in terms of stopping tracking. As posted elsewhere in this thread, Privacy Badger would be another extension to look into. I don't see a problem with running multiple extensions. Adblock plus is fine for just stopping ads, and obviously Noscript is the heavy-handed way to stop a lot of this stuff also.
When you load the Facebook Connect code from a third-party site, that is Facebook tracking you. Facebook knows that your browser requested their code from the other site. They can tell which site it is. They know that you visited that site. And, if you happen to have a valid login session at Facebook or did recently, then the site you visited probably also knows your identity on Facebook. All of this data gathering is part of the ability to post to Facebook. That is how Facebook makes its money, it sells data like that. Keep in mind that you don't pay to use Facebook. You are not Facebook's customer, you are Facebook's product. Their customers are the companies that buy your data, including which sites you visit and which articles you read.
Oh, you're talking about the unquantifiable "creepy factor" when you use the term "worst". I assumed you were referring to the data set in TFA.
My point is that what I suggested is completely different from what ISPs are doing right now. When you host a site, does some random ISP pay you when their customer visits it? No? Then it's not the same thing, is it? What I suggested is more along the lines of what cable TV was supposed to be when it started, not ISPs that provide access to the internet in the first place. I don't expect an ISP to create what I'm talking about, that's not their job.