What the *fuck* are you talking about? There's plenty of stuff that can be done. The only reason that they're not being done is that the wealthy would have to foot the bill, and they don't want to.
Sure, lots of stuff can be done, none of it is going to change the outcome...
That is the critical point that keeps getting missed... We aren't going to cut current levels of CO2 by 40% or 70% or whatever in 30 or 50 years, they will keep going up...
None of the changes will cut anything, perhaps slow the growth a bit, but the outcome remains the same...
Much like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...
I have to say... I have three Windows 8.0 Pro licences that I purchased at launch when they were cheap... I've tried it several times, never could stand it, just wasn't finished...
Recently I bought a new Dell laptop that came with Windows 8.1 and was pleasantly surprised at the improvements.
While my main machine will probably run Windows 7 until Windows 10 comes out, I've upgraded several other machines from 7 to 8.1 now using my existing licenses.
I have to say, had Windows 8 launched as 8.1 stands today, I think most of the hate would have been gone, it is "cleaned up" and an improvement in many ways over 8.0.
Most of those "unlimited" services weren't Microsoft, or Google, or other such very large companies that can afford a hundred million dollars for a proper back end system.
10TB of data used to be a lot. Today? Meh, single hard drives that size are about to come out, 10 USB flash drives can hold that these days.
A Terabyte isn't what it used to be... Just wait until consumers get 4K video cameras...:)
OneDrive isn't meant for "backup". Neither is Google Drive or DropBox for that matter...
Services like CrashPlan, Carbonite, and Backblaze are what backup is for...
The "drive" services are meant to be cloud storage of actual files that you actually use, which is why MS Office will save directly to OneDrive if you like. I personally save locally to my OneDrive folder and let the app upload and sync in the background.
That isn't "backup", that is nice handy storage without having to thumb drive it.
You all must have a different OneDrive than I do...
Is it as fast as DropBox? Maybe, maybe not... It is fast enough...
It auto backups our pictures and videos from our phones, it downloads anything I need quickly, it fully synced 850GB of data soon enough that I don't actually recall how long it took, but it wasn't very long...
For "free" I don't expect rocket performance, just "good enough" performance, and it does that.
While you are correct, none of the nerd ideas are going to help should that come to pass.
Encrypting our OneDrives is not going to make a difference if my government decides to lock me up because I'm white (or black or any other color).
It is focused on the wrong problem. Hiding from the NSA isn't likely to work. Not having a NSA or a government that does such things requires solutions and actions FAR beyond cloud storage.
What was done to the Japanese was wrong. Then again so was slavery. What has been done to innocent people in the past ten years in the name of "The War on Terror" is also wrong.
And all the protests in the world did nothing to stop it, did they?
If people in power decide they don't like you, your options are limited.
All useful data reveals something about the user. Even benign stuff can reveal a user's personality or tastes or desires depending on the content. That information can be later used in marketing, or in the worst case scenario, used against the person in a legal attack (or worse).
Perhaps, but my family pictures of our recent vacation to Disney World wouldn't reveal much.
You know what they WOULD reveal? That we stood in front of the same 25 places that 10,000 other families did and took the same 200 pictures that everyone else did because we all went to a mass market consumer entertainment park meant to part us with our dollars in return for fantasy and fun for the whole family.
Nothing in our family pictures would tell you anything more than that just did.
Or have you never heard of FaceBook? Our pictures are posted there, for all the world to see. We don't care that much. We are boring (to everyone else) people, as most people really are... (even if they don't want to admit it).
Perhaps... But I'm not under the false allusion that the data being on my local hard drive is any safer from the NSA.
If the NSA wanted to read my local hard drive, they could do so I'm sure. Either there is a back door in Windows, or they could somehow get something installed on my computer to put a back door in...
Or, you know, since they are the government, when I'm not home, they could just break into my house and physically copy the hard drive.:) I'm sure they could do that without my noticing.
Thankfully for me, I have nothing the NSA would care about. I'm completely harmless. I'm a married middle class worker who pays his taxes and has no interest in harming anyone.
the vast majority of home users don't require significant upload bandwidth
You're quite right, even with cloud storage...
The average home user may well take some videos and pictures on vacation or for a holiday, then end up with 50GB to upload... Once in awhile...
Even if it took 3 or 4 days to upload, so what? Few people generate that often enough to matter, even a 5 megabit upload would be fine for most people.
3TB would take 14 hours to upload, assuming Microsoft could take it that fast.
My monthly bandwidth use, measured by my router, for both up and downstream traffic? About 7TB per month.
Like I've said, I'm a heavy user... not normal at all, but people like me do exist.
None of that is illegal content, maintaining a VPN, running remote desktop, keeping streaming music on, have kids who watch everything via streaming video (we don't have cable or satellite), etc. Also, the multiple backups to multiple cloud providers add to that, it is split about 2/3 download to 1/3 upload.
So it takes a few days to upload my music collection, it will only take a couple minutes to upload new albums individually, and I'll be able to access it all from anywhere.
^ This...
I have to say, until you experience the joy of simply having all your files online for you any time, any where, on any device, you don't know what you're missing.
I can tell you for 100% certainty that I can upload 10GB files.
If other people cannot, I have no idea why, perhaps open a support ticket?
But I do know the limit is 10GB now. I do hope that limit gets raised, I have 5 files in my OneDrive folder right now that are over 10GB in size, otherwise everything uploaded just fine.
In fairness, I would imagine they reserve the right to throttle heavy users...
That being said... What would you upload? Do you really have 250TB of files to upload? If you just copy and rename the files, don't you think they have a data deduplication system to compensate for that?
Well of course... I'm sure they have some terms and conditions that provide them some limits, and they always have the ultimate protection. If you're really a pain, they can offer you a refund and cancel your service. But that is always an option for any service provider, isn't it?
I'm sure they have thought about that, a few people may well upload 5TB, or 10TB... But someone, somewhere, just to be a pain, will try uploading 500TB... They'll probably cut that user off at some point, or throttle them...
Look at Carbonite... They offer "unlimited" backup, but if you read the fine print, after various datapoints they throttle. That is why I no longer use them, I switched to Crashplan and Backblaze, who don't throttle (as much, I'm not convinced they don't to some extent).
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You need to come to grips that there are things in this world you are not qualified to have a reliable opinion on.
And you need to come to grips that just saying that and trying to force your views on everyone else is going to end in a bad way.
I'd hate to see you tackled running across the White House lawn, like your friends.
You make jokes like this, but there are far more people against your position than you think.
If your side simply tries to ram it down everyone's throat, you may find yourself at war.
A western lifestyle is neither necessary nor the best option for much of the world.
Says who? You?
The problem with such statements is they are made as if they are simple fact, when in truth they are just opinion.
What the *fuck* are you talking about? There's plenty of stuff that can be done. The only reason that they're not being done is that the wealthy would have to foot the bill, and they don't want to.
Sure, lots of stuff can be done, none of it is going to change the outcome...
That is the critical point that keeps getting missed... We aren't going to cut current levels of CO2 by 40% or 70% or whatever in 30 or 50 years, they will keep going up...
None of the changes will cut anything, perhaps slow the growth a bit, but the outcome remains the same...
Much like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...
If you rebate the tax on a per capita basis the poor should end up with more.
So, what you're REALLY saying is that you want to transfer more wealth from the rich to the poor?
I have to say... I have three Windows 8.0 Pro licences that I purchased at launch when they were cheap... I've tried it several times, never could stand it, just wasn't finished...
Recently I bought a new Dell laptop that came with Windows 8.1 and was pleasantly surprised at the improvements.
While my main machine will probably run Windows 7 until Windows 10 comes out, I've upgraded several other machines from 7 to 8.1 now using my existing licenses.
I have to say, had Windows 8 launched as 8.1 stands today, I think most of the hate would have been gone, it is "cleaned up" and an improvement in many ways over 8.0.
Looking forward to 10...
Virgin is a wealthy company backed by a very wealthy man.
This is a setback, but crashes happen.
If everyone had given up on airplanes in the early days because of a few deaths, then we'd all be taking the train today.
Most of those "unlimited" services weren't Microsoft, or Google, or other such very large companies that can afford a hundred million dollars for a proper back end system.
10TB of data used to be a lot. Today? Meh, single hard drives that size are about to come out, 10 USB flash drives can hold that these days.
A Terabyte isn't what it used to be... Just wait until consumers get 4K video cameras... :)
OneDrive isn't meant for "backup". Neither is Google Drive or DropBox for that matter...
Services like CrashPlan, Carbonite, and Backblaze are what backup is for...
The "drive" services are meant to be cloud storage of actual files that you actually use, which is why MS Office will save directly to OneDrive if you like. I personally save locally to my OneDrive folder and let the app upload and sync in the background.
That isn't "backup", that is nice handy storage without having to thumb drive it.
You all must have a different OneDrive than I do...
Is it as fast as DropBox? Maybe, maybe not... It is fast enough...
It auto backups our pictures and videos from our phones, it downloads anything I need quickly, it fully synced 850GB of data soon enough that I don't actually recall how long it took, but it wasn't very long...
For "free" I don't expect rocket performance, just "good enough" performance, and it does that.
While you are correct, none of the nerd ideas are going to help should that come to pass.
Encrypting our OneDrives is not going to make a difference if my government decides to lock me up because I'm white (or black or any other color).
It is focused on the wrong problem. Hiding from the NSA isn't likely to work. Not having a NSA or a government that does such things requires solutions and actions FAR beyond cloud storage.
What was done to the Japanese was wrong. Then again so was slavery. What has been done to innocent people in the past ten years in the name of "The War on Terror" is also wrong.
And all the protests in the world did nothing to stop it, did they?
If people in power decide they don't like you, your options are limited.
Yep, as it is, I'm using about 850GB of my OneDrive now. Do I have more to put there? Meh, maybe...
The important stuff is there, the full system backup is handled by proper backup services.
All useful data reveals something about the user. Even benign stuff can reveal a user's personality or tastes or desires depending on the content. That information can be later used in marketing, or in the worst case scenario, used against the person in a legal attack (or worse).
Perhaps, but my family pictures of our recent vacation to Disney World wouldn't reveal much.
You know what they WOULD reveal? That we stood in front of the same 25 places that 10,000 other families did and took the same 200 pictures that everyone else did because we all went to a mass market consumer entertainment park meant to part us with our dollars in return for fantasy and fun for the whole family.
Nothing in our family pictures would tell you anything more than that just did.
Or have you never heard of FaceBook? Our pictures are posted there, for all the world to see. We don't care that much. We are boring (to everyone else) people, as most people really are... (even if they don't want to admit it).
What a gift to the NSA!
Perhaps... But I'm not under the false allusion that the data being on my local hard drive is any safer from the NSA.
If the NSA wanted to read my local hard drive, they could do so I'm sure. Either there is a back door in Windows, or they could somehow get something installed on my computer to put a back door in...
Or, you know, since they are the government, when I'm not home, they could just break into my house and physically copy the hard drive. :) I'm sure they could do that without my noticing.
Thankfully for me, I have nothing the NSA would care about. I'm completely harmless. I'm a married middle class worker who pays his taxes and has no interest in harming anyone.
:) Normal people aren't uploading anything that requires encryption.
My family vacation pictures, my saved documents, etc... None of that is really worth caring about...
If I encrypt before uploading, it becomes a big fat pain in the butt to use and might as well not bother, just thumb drive it.
the vast majority of home users don't require significant upload bandwidth
You're quite right, even with cloud storage...
The average home user may well take some videos and pictures on vacation or for a holiday, then end up with 50GB to upload... Once in awhile...
Even if it took 3 or 4 days to upload, so what? Few people generate that often enough to matter, even a 5 megabit upload would be fine for most people.
^ The above post is why you should never, ever use the Internet while under the influence of... anything... :)
I have a FIOS 150/150 connection to my home...
The fastest? 500/500...
At that speed?
3TB would take 14 hours to upload, assuming Microsoft could take it that fast.
My monthly bandwidth use, measured by my router, for both up and downstream traffic? About 7TB per month.
Like I've said, I'm a heavy user... not normal at all, but people like me do exist.
None of that is illegal content, maintaining a VPN, running remote desktop, keeping streaming music on, have kids who watch everything via streaming video (we don't have cable or satellite), etc. Also, the multiple backups to multiple cloud providers add to that, it is split about 2/3 download to 1/3 upload.
So it takes a few days to upload my music collection, it will only take a couple minutes to upload new albums individually, and I'll be able to access it all from anywhere.
^ This...
I have to say, until you experience the joy of simply having all your files online for you any time, any where, on any device, you don't know what you're missing.
While you might be right, his words were:
"Luckily I had most of it already local otherwise it would take a long time to download all of my data from the cloud."
He said "most of it"... that is why I replied with my surprise and question...
...so I am forced to remove my data
I don't understand this... you didn't have local copies of everything?
While I have lots stored in the cloud, every single bit of it is local as well.
We are a long way off from where I'd ever consider storing stuff ONLY in the cloud.
1TB ought to be enough for anybody
Ha! Someone had to say it...
That would work too...
I can tell you for 100% certainty that I can upload 10GB files.
If other people cannot, I have no idea why, perhaps open a support ticket?
But I do know the limit is 10GB now. I do hope that limit gets raised, I have 5 files in my OneDrive folder right now that are over 10GB in size, otherwise everything uploaded just fine.
In fairness, I would imagine they reserve the right to throttle heavy users...
That being said... What would you upload? Do you really have 250TB of files to upload? If you just copy and rename the files, don't you think they have a data deduplication system to compensate for that?
"unlimited" always means unlimited up to a point
Well of course... I'm sure they have some terms and conditions that provide them some limits, and they always have the ultimate protection. If you're really a pain, they can offer you a refund and cancel your service. But that is always an option for any service provider, isn't it?
I'm sure they have thought about that, a few people may well upload 5TB, or 10TB... But someone, somewhere, just to be a pain, will try uploading 500TB... They'll probably cut that user off at some point, or throttle them...
Look at Carbonite... They offer "unlimited" backup, but if you read the fine print, after various datapoints they throttle. That is why I no longer use them, I switched to Crashplan and Backblaze, who don't throttle (as much, I'm not convinced they don't to some extent).