First, you that insist on the cheapest possible prices so that you can buy multiple iCrap products for your "digital lifestyle" that must be the newest, flashiest, most over-specced toy on the market this second are to blame for the currrent bubble in tech manufacturing. You, American consumption whores, are the cause of the bloat that is Chinese manufacturing and the deaths through environmental degradation, economic relocation, and the resultant suicide and other "explosive" stories we see in our (consumer driven) media today.
Second, Blaming Apple is resonable because the true "genious" of Steve Jobs was the marketing of the aforementioned iCrap. He was not so much a tech innovator, he just had an eye for how to market the ideas of others and leverage that into a massively profitable juggernaut. At the same time he realized that the manufacturing power of the west could be used for tech items just as it is used to create the "fashion industry" products with equal price/cost/value ratios. What I mean there is that the price is much, much greater than the cost, which is only slightly higher than the real comparative value of the product. Gucci, like Apple, is made in China (as are most "fashion" apparel goods) with equal profit margins. Apple succeeds at marketing their over-priced fashion stuff better than apparel manufacturers, that is all.
"Apple is being blamed only because they are successful" Well, yes and no. They are being blamed because at the prices they are charging they could be making the products in the US and still be making a profit, just not as disgustingly ginormous a profit. They are being blamed because, by sitting at the top they set a standard that others lust after. They, like Google, are at the top and draw the lightening. It just comes with the territory and they know it. So the CEO must make pronouncements about how "they care about all their employees". Oh yeah, right.
Finally, the headline talks about "Xhengzhou" which is what caught my attention. The only part of China where you can have names like that (and I never saw that name there) is in the Northwest Uygher areas. If Foxconn was building a plant there it would be fantastic because the people there are some of the poorest in China. The main province, Xinghai, is predominantly Muslim and the "global war on terror" provided the Chinese with an acceptable excuse for closing the province to foreigners and terrorizing the Muslim citizens while giving all the land and opportunity to Han Chinese shipped in for the purpose. Exactly the same as what is going on in Tibet (Xizang province), and other regions that are not prodominantly Han already. What caught my attention was the miss-spelling of Zhengzhou, a huge city whose population is greater than any city in the US (and that you probably never heard of) and that sits right on the Yangtze river, which means that all the industrial waste from the manufacturing will poison the hundreds of millions of people downstream all the way to Shanghai. Brilliant planning. So, the story is that Apple is going to more fully empower the richest and most powerful (and most racist in some sense of the word) people in China at the expense of the poorest minorities, the environment and the American consumer whores; it's probably a good idea that I don't write the summaries for/.
oh, so you are sucking up the four color cool-aid by the gallon! if you weren't using all that crusty stuff you wouldn't need an expensive win7 phone, you could get by with something on your wrist watch just to make phone calls. Then you would be truly kool.
Thank you for correctlng that, i have a meego tablet (WeTab) that I dual boot with fedora 15, oh that was hard to do, the special rooting program, mmmm in the app store for it actually, the community forum with full instructions on installing fedora, ubuntu and win7, oh what a lock-down.
I agree. I have the WeTab, which is an ExoPC but with a Yum distro based OS which they call the WETABOS but which is Meego skinned with a tablet interface. I rooted it (well that is a gross exaggeration, it is made to be played with, god bless those Germans) and installed fedora 15 with gnome 3. it rocks, but still needs to be played with. Many people have already installed ubuntu but there is absolutely no reason why you could not install debian, it is an awesome piece of hardware. And, let me say, that G3 on a tablet just plain rocks, but then I like G3 and fedora from the get-go, so i am prejudiced
Well, as a happy gnome 3 user i would hardly accept being called "afraid of change". But I find the ribbon really, really hard to use. I don't find the choices to be "intuitive" or useful. I tried, the first month on my new job, and went back to libreoffice. I just had to get work done and not have to look for stuff, stuff like "undo". Then I never did find the "notes" where I could add notes to a document with a quick key combination, or with anything. I just gave it up.
So, while I am sure that some people have found it useful, just as I prefer G3, I didn't. I notice that the people I work with have dumbed it down to being a zero-feature text editor as well. when they have a list to make the type "1" then ")" then "tab" then the question or whatever. It is considered a sign of mastery to be able to bullet lists! So, what I see is what I agree with, big surprise.
Hold on hold on, This was a broad generalization that was mistakenly attached to Shakespearean speech at some time in the past. I believe that the problem comes from the source of our "standard" speech which is thought to be based in Midlands British English. Compare that to the Australian which is fairly certain to be based in Southern British English (and some argue especially Cockney, from South London, but this seems a bit tight a specification). In the Chespeake Bay of VA/MD/DE there is a little island that claims to have very authentic midlands speech, which is incomprehensible to everyone else in the world.
Yes, American English might have begun in the midlands, but there were multiple sources from other places and times, as well as other forces that have acted on it. The original statement was challenged and, as usual with mistaken assertions that catch peoples attention, has been repeated to the point where people not only believe it but also apply is falsely to inapplicable situations.
BTW. Shakespeare's play were performed in London, for a London, elite audience. Probably not the midlands type of folks either.
Thanks for a little sense in this bitch fight. I have said previously, I use G3, a lot and in work and home environments. It took time, I gave it and now prefer it. I find G2 to be slower and less intuitive now, and I can say that since I have it still in an Ubuntu LTS laptop my wife uses. My daughter uses and loves KDE for her graphics workstation, but I don't. Saying that one is any great amount better than the others is sheer foolishness, however. I like and adapted to G3, it is not that big a deal. Grow up and focus on something that needs your attention, like SOPA, or occupy or something that actually is worth caring about
Yeah, i would have to say that the school board member was in the "lost generation if he couldn't answer any of these, I'm 56, use math to do my taxes and got all the sample questions correct. How the hell did he miss any of them?
I was living in China over a period when the dominant modes of transportation changed dramatically along with the income and availability of rich foods. It is not just one aspect that creates fatter people.
In this period, the availability of fast food (KFC, Pizza Hut and Burger King most commonly, but also eating more meat in their diet overall and larger amounts of oil in the cooking) increased on a fairly straight line that went from about 1 outlet per square kilometer (for fast food in a city) to twenty outlets per square kilometer over about 12 years. That obviously had an effect on the more affluent city dwellers. But, keep in mind that while fast food for us is cheap, for them it is the price of one or two days worth of regular, chinese food. (a bowl of beef noodles--standard breakfast and/or lunch is about 6 RMB at a noodle restaurant while a chicken "burger" is about 23 RMB)
But the greatest change has been in transport. When I arrived in 2000, I saw families having picnics under highway overpasses that had smooth concrete areas for the parents to learn how to ride a bicycle. It was the first step from walking to bicycling. Most drivers had been trained in the military and were the chosen few that had a license. My license was bigger than my passport in fact. Nowadays, 12 years later, most people ride either a bicycle or, more importantly, an electric bicycle. The e-bikes are ubiquitous in cities without hills, while gas powered scooters are everywhere in cities where there are ups and downs. I brought an e-bike back this summer and it is a big hit in Florida. As well, cars now belong to everyone. Not just the business owners, but mid-level managers, teachers, and any upwardly mobile entrepreneur has a car.
The effect is there for anyone to see. When you see someone riding on an old "push-bike" they will be the old Chinese standard: thin, strong, tight and active. Those on e-bikes are beginning to spread and hang over the seat a bit on each side. They are not flabby and overweight, but in an intermediate stage.
The car drivers are soft, flabby and show all the signs of impending obesity if they haven't achieved it yet.
My wife has been back in Kunming for the last month. In that time she has lost more than 7 kilos by just eating traditional Chinese food, walking everywhere and being Chinese ( and she is Dutch, not Chinese). The difference and the causes are pretty obvious, at least in this anecdote.
You do realize that all the charities that use Gates money are also given free copies of Windows to run, and required to use it don't you? Built in to every agreement with the charity is a promise to use Windows software exclusively; or so says a friend who worked for the charity before leaving in disgust at the mercantile aspect of the "gift" process.
where we are at now is, because of the meme you are using/ projecting/ supporting, a country run not by the elected government or reasonable officials but instead by the corporations who pay rich people to shape public policy to suit short term gain for the corporations. If we had the same government that we had in the 50s and 60s we would have governmental control of the corporations in a way that protects us from the destructive effects of what we see going on around us today.
As you clean out your desk in tears, rage and confusion, remember that you supported the process that led to your loss.
yes, this is not news, even ten years ago when i used windows and needed to DL soething I never went to download.com, once burned twice never.
BTW, this does come up over and over, let's just stop caring that windows slut companies (like CNET) package stuff like this and assume that they do it. A better story would be about a company that doesn't. Or an AV company that has a good product that is not bloated and costs a reasonable yearly fee, or other USEFUL stuff (at least for the poor, sad, benighted windows users out there) I mean, since this isn't TYotLD (the year of the etc.) we ought to at least show mercy and compassion for others, there is no value in hassling people just because they are crack addicted right?
I worked at a place for two years (but not in the "IT" area) where the IT "professionals" were responsible for speakers in the classrooms, lightbulbs and switches, and the debacle where they installed a punchcard system for a bunch of foreign teachers and expected them to meekly submit. The head of IT finally fought his way out of the lightbulbs and considered it a major victory. Then they bought their own server for 200 email addresses, with an incompetent admin, and claimed that it was impossible to expand up to include the student body (2000 students). It was always broken and the only thing they were efficient at was dropping your email as soon as you left.
I was just musing about comments overheard at work. About how iTunes kept breaking and they didn't know what to do. They downloaded another copy and it was still broken, so they were cut off from their music. Frankly, i just kept quiet. I used to care enough to try to help, but they don't want the help, they want somebody to fix. Just download and install one of the dozens of other music players doesn't work for them, they bought all their music through iTunes and they can't access it without iTunes (or at least that is what they think, and I don't want to burst their bubbles).
I don't even talk about why I run fedora on a VM because it just confuses them and makes them think I am a nerd or a geek and I don't think I really deserve it, I just like what I am used to, is what I say when asked. Case closed.
My wife: we went to the ATT store (I needed a GSM SIM card for my Chinese made phone) and she spent two hours looking, comparing features and etc on the Samsung, an HTC and the iPhone 4. The Samsung won hands down. I wanted her to buy the HTC, but she wasn't impressed. The salesman was pitching the iPhone, but she wasn't impressed. She just plain loves that phone.Case closed, she is a Samsung fan boy.
BTW, I used to teach some lessons to the managers at the Samsung screen (monitor, etc) factory in China. These folks were really top notch and the system in place was quite exceptional.
Cocaine, as I recall, is not physically addicting, in that it does not replace a naturally occurring chemical in the body. Heroin/ Morphine do that, as does alcohol. I am still unclear about exactly what mechanism nicotine replaces, but feel certain that this is just a failure of knowledge on my part. Now, let's talk about cocaine realistically and honestly. I used a great deal of cocaine in the 70s and early 80s. Didn't really like it though, and finally decided that i really didn't want it any more. There was no withdrawal, no pain, confusion or disconnect from reality like I had when I quit cigarettes and alcohol at other times. It was no more difficult than quitting marijuana, which I did by dumping the remains of a baggie in the trash and saying "that is it."
So what is the problem with cocaine? It is described as "habituation" Essentially, you just get used to it and you like it. Now this is very different from real addiction UNLESS there is an underlying mental illness (or perhaps one triggered by the cocaine use that I never experienced) that feeds the habituation with the idea that the user must have the drug to go on. Then there is a sense of loss from quitting the drug. While the psychological pain can be,well, painful, it cannot compare with the side-effects from real withdrawal. BTW,my grandfather died of alcohol withdrawal because he and my grandmother refused to admit that he was an alcoholic. In the hospital they didn't give him any treatment for alcoholism and he died of the DTs. Sad, really sad. That is real addiction.
I have also had "discussions " on this topic with muslim students in the last three weeks. I showed a video where a presenter at TED referred to evolution and change RE collaboration. When the presenter used the idea of evolutionary change resulting in better and greater collaboration the students disagreed because evolution is anti-religious in their view. Other presenters who just talked about how this wonderful new thing called collaboration was changing interaction were accepted. Same ideas, same references outside of the presentation but the simple reference to evolution made one right and one wrong. Referring to this the students say that you cannot accept anything a believer in evolution says. Case closed, or should I say, mind closed.
While these are not the brightest lights on the Christmas tree (little muslim/christian humor there) they are people who will go back feeling justified in their faith and feeling that they have stood up for their beliefs. rather than strengthen that sense, I just back off and tell them clearly that I do believe that evolution has proven itself to be the best explanation of change in the world and that ignoring that is a sign of a weak mind. Not popular, but it ends the discussion. I also got a bad evaluation from those two, predominantly muslim, classes. HMMMMM.
yo dude, wise up. It is NOT the king that wants this. Every time someone gets convicted the king pardons them and helps them get out of the country. It is the people that do it, especially politicians who want to get popular support from the yellow shirt majority who revere the king. So, back off, while there are some.... interesting.... aspects to the king's life, he is not the source of the laws and he is vehement in his denial of them.
And chill out on the xenophobia, it just makes you look like a cave dweller
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Yeah, that was what i was waiting for someone to challenge
First, you that insist on the cheapest possible prices so that you can buy multiple iCrap products for your "digital lifestyle" that must be the newest, flashiest, most over-specced toy on the market this second are to blame for the currrent bubble in tech manufacturing. You, American consumption whores, are the cause of the bloat that is Chinese manufacturing and the deaths through environmental degradation, economic relocation, and the resultant suicide and other "explosive" stories we see in our (consumer driven) media today.
Second, Blaming Apple is resonable because the true "genious" of Steve Jobs was the marketing of the aforementioned iCrap. He was not so much a tech innovator, he just had an eye for how to market the ideas of others and leverage that into a massively profitable juggernaut. At the same time he realized that the manufacturing power of the west could be used for tech items just as it is used to create the "fashion industry" products with equal price/cost/value ratios. What I mean there is that the price is much, much greater than the cost, which is only slightly higher than the real comparative value of the product. Gucci, like Apple, is made in China (as are most "fashion" apparel goods) with equal profit margins. Apple succeeds at marketing their over-priced fashion stuff better than apparel manufacturers, that is all.
"Apple is being blamed only because they are successful" Well, yes and no. They are being blamed because at the prices they are charging they could be making the products in the US and still be making a profit, just not as disgustingly ginormous a profit. They are being blamed because, by sitting at the top they set a standard that others lust after. They, like Google, are at the top and draw the lightening. It just comes with the territory and they know it. So the CEO must make pronouncements about how "they care about all their employees". Oh yeah, right.
Finally, the headline talks about "Xhengzhou" which is what caught my attention. The only part of China where you can have names like that (and I never saw that name there) is in the Northwest Uygher areas. If Foxconn was building a plant there it would be fantastic because the people there are some of the poorest in China. The main province, Xinghai, is predominantly Muslim and the "global war on terror" provided the Chinese with an acceptable excuse for closing the province to foreigners and terrorizing the Muslim citizens while giving all the land and opportunity to Han Chinese shipped in for the purpose. Exactly the same as what is going on in Tibet (Xizang province), and other regions that are not prodominantly Han already. /.
What caught my attention was the miss-spelling of Zhengzhou, a huge city whose population is greater than any city in the US (and that you probably never heard of) and that sits right on the Yangtze river, which means that all the industrial waste from the manufacturing will poison the hundreds of millions of people downstream all the way to Shanghai. Brilliant planning. So, the story is that Apple is going to more fully empower the richest and most powerful (and most racist in some sense of the word) people in China at the expense of the poorest minorities, the environment and the American consumer whores;
it's probably a good idea that I don't write the summaries for
oh, so you are sucking up the four color cool-aid by the gallon! if you weren't using all that crusty stuff you wouldn't need an expensive win7 phone, you could get by with something on your wrist watch just to make phone calls. Then you would be truly kool.
Thank you for correctlng that, i have a meego tablet (WeTab) that I dual boot with fedora 15, oh that was hard to do, the special rooting program, mmmm in the app store for it actually, the community forum with full instructions on installing fedora, ubuntu and win7, oh what a lock-down.
Still, i have never seen my tablet as a "do nothing,consume only" piece of crap. Iam a human, I mess with shit.
I agree. I have the WeTab, which is an ExoPC but with a Yum distro based OS which they call the WETABOS but which is Meego skinned with a tablet interface. I rooted it (well that is a gross exaggeration, it is made to be played with, god bless those Germans) and installed fedora 15 with gnome 3. it rocks, but still needs to be played with. Many people have already installed ubuntu but there is absolutely no reason why you could not install debian, it is an awesome piece of hardware. And, let me say, that G3 on a tablet just plain rocks, but then I like G3 and fedora from the get-go, so i am prejudiced
Well, as a happy gnome 3 user i would hardly accept being called "afraid of change". But I find the ribbon really, really hard to use. I don't find the choices to be "intuitive" or useful. I tried, the first month on my new job, and went back to libreoffice. I just had to get work done and not have to look for stuff, stuff like "undo". Then I never did find the "notes" where I could add notes to a document with a quick key combination, or with anything. I just gave it up.
So, while I am sure that some people have found it useful, just as I prefer G3, I didn't. I notice that the people I work with have dumbed it down to being a zero-feature text editor as well. when they have a list to make the type "1" then ")" then "tab" then the question or whatever. It is considered a sign of mastery to be able to bullet lists! So, what I see is what I agree with, big surprise.
Hold on hold on, This was a broad generalization that was mistakenly attached to Shakespearean speech at some time in the past. I believe that the problem comes from the source of our "standard" speech which is thought to be based in Midlands British English. Compare that to the Australian which is fairly certain to be based in Southern British English (and some argue especially Cockney, from South London, but this seems a bit tight a specification). In the Chespeake Bay of VA/MD/DE there is a little island that claims to have very authentic midlands speech, which is incomprehensible to everyone else in the world.
Yes, American English might have begun in the midlands, but there were multiple sources from other places and times, as well as other forces that have acted on it. The original statement was challenged and, as usual with mistaken assertions that catch peoples attention, has been repeated to the point where people not only believe it but also apply is falsely to inapplicable situations.
BTW. Shakespeare's play were performed in London, for a London, elite audience. Probably not the midlands type of folks either.
Thanks for a little sense in this bitch fight. I have said previously, I use G3, a lot and in work and home environments. It took time, I gave it and now prefer it. I find G2 to be slower and less intuitive now, and I can say that since I have it still in an Ubuntu LTS laptop my wife uses. My daughter uses and loves KDE for her graphics workstation, but I don't. Saying that one is any great amount better than the others is sheer foolishness, however. I like and adapted to G3, it is not that big a deal. Grow up and focus on something that needs your attention, like SOPA, or occupy or something that actually is worth caring about
Yeah, i would have to say that the school board member was in the "lost generation if he couldn't answer any of these, I'm 56, use math to do my taxes and got all the sample questions correct. How the hell did he miss any of them?
I was living in China over a period when the dominant modes of transportation changed dramatically along with the income and availability of rich foods. It is not just one aspect that creates fatter people.
In this period, the availability of fast food (KFC, Pizza Hut and Burger King most commonly, but also eating more meat in their diet overall and larger amounts of oil in the cooking) increased on a fairly straight line that went from about 1 outlet per square kilometer (for fast food in a city) to twenty outlets per square kilometer over about 12 years. That obviously had an effect on the more affluent city dwellers. But, keep in mind that while fast food for us is cheap, for them it is the price of one or two days worth of regular, chinese food. (a bowl of beef noodles--standard breakfast and/or lunch is about 6 RMB at a noodle restaurant while a chicken "burger" is about 23 RMB)
But the greatest change has been in transport. When I arrived in 2000, I saw families having picnics under highway overpasses that had smooth concrete areas for the parents to learn how to ride a bicycle. It was the first step from walking to bicycling. Most drivers had been trained in the military and were the chosen few that had a license. My license was bigger than my passport in fact. Nowadays, 12 years later, most people ride either a bicycle or, more importantly, an electric bicycle. The e-bikes are ubiquitous in cities without hills, while gas powered scooters are everywhere in cities where there are ups and downs. I brought an e-bike back this summer and it is a big hit in Florida. As well, cars now belong to everyone. Not just the business owners, but mid-level managers, teachers, and any upwardly mobile entrepreneur has a car.
The effect is there for anyone to see. When you see someone riding on an old "push-bike" they will be the old Chinese standard: thin, strong, tight and active. Those on e-bikes are beginning to spread and hang over the seat a bit on each side. They are not flabby and overweight, but in an intermediate stage.
The car drivers are soft, flabby and show all the signs of impending obesity if they haven't achieved it yet.
My wife has been back in Kunming for the last month. In that time she has lost more than 7 kilos by just eating traditional Chinese food, walking everywhere and being Chinese ( and she is Dutch, not Chinese). The difference and the causes are pretty obvious, at least in this anecdote.
You do realize that all the charities that use Gates money are also given free copies of Windows to run, and required to use it don't you? Built in to every agreement with the charity is a promise to use Windows software exclusively; or so says a friend who worked for the charity before leaving in disgust at the mercantile aspect of the "gift" process.
crocodile dundee? WTF?
where we are at now is, because of the meme you are using/ projecting/ supporting, a country run not by the elected government or reasonable officials but instead by the corporations who pay rich people to shape public policy to suit short term gain for the corporations. If we had the same government that we had in the 50s and 60s we would have governmental control of the corporations in a way that protects us from the destructive effects of what we see going on around us today.
As you clean out your desk in tears, rage and confusion, remember that you supported the process that led to your loss.
yes, this is not news, even ten years ago when i used windows and needed to DL soething I never went to download.com, once burned twice never.
BTW, this does come up over and over, let's just stop caring that windows slut companies (like CNET) package stuff like this and assume that they do it. A better story would be about a company that doesn't. Or an AV company that has a good product that is not bloated and costs a reasonable yearly fee, or other USEFUL stuff (at least for the poor, sad, benighted windows users out there) I mean, since this isn't TYotLD (the year of the etc.) we ought to at least show mercy and compassion for others, there is no value in hassling people just because they are crack addicted right?
I worked at a place for two years (but not in the "IT" area) where the IT "professionals" were responsible for speakers in the classrooms, lightbulbs and switches, and the debacle where they installed a punchcard system for a bunch of foreign teachers and expected them to meekly submit. The head of IT finally fought his way out of the lightbulbs and considered it a major victory. Then they bought their own server for 200 email addresses, with an incompetent admin, and claimed that it was impossible to expand up to include the student body (2000 students). It was always broken and the only thing they were efficient at was dropping your email as soon as you left.
I was just musing about comments overheard at work. About how iTunes kept breaking and they didn't know what to do. They downloaded another copy and it was still broken, so they were cut off from their music. Frankly, i just kept quiet. I used to care enough to try to help, but they don't want the help, they want somebody to fix. Just download and install one of the dozens of other music players doesn't work for them, they bought all their music through iTunes and they can't access it without iTunes (or at least that is what they think, and I don't want to burst their bubbles).
I don't even talk about why I run fedora on a VM because it just confuses them and makes them think I am a nerd or a geek and I don't think I really deserve it, I just like what I am used to, is what I say when asked. Case closed.
My wife: we went to the ATT store (I needed a GSM SIM card for my Chinese made phone) and she spent two hours looking, comparing features and etc on the Samsung, an HTC and the iPhone 4. The Samsung won hands down. I wanted her to buy the HTC, but she wasn't impressed. The salesman was pitching the iPhone, but she wasn't impressed. She just plain loves that phone.Case closed, she is a Samsung fan boy.
BTW, I used to teach some lessons to the managers at the Samsung screen (monitor, etc) factory in China. These folks were really top notch and the system in place was quite exceptional.
Cocaine, as I recall, is not physically addicting, in that it does not replace a naturally occurring chemical in the body. Heroin/ Morphine do that, as does alcohol. I am still unclear about exactly what mechanism nicotine replaces, but feel certain that this is just a failure of knowledge on my part.
Now, let's talk about cocaine realistically and honestly. I used a great deal of cocaine in the 70s and early 80s. Didn't really like it though, and finally decided that i really didn't want it any more. There was no withdrawal, no pain, confusion or disconnect from reality like I had when I quit cigarettes and alcohol at other times. It was no more difficult than quitting marijuana, which I did by dumping the remains of a baggie in the trash and saying "that is it."
So what is the problem with cocaine? It is described as "habituation" Essentially, you just get used to it and you like it. Now this is very different from real addiction UNLESS there is an underlying mental illness (or perhaps one triggered by the cocaine use that I never experienced) that feeds the habituation with the idea that the user must have the drug to go on. Then there is a sense of loss from quitting the drug. While the psychological pain can be,well, painful, it cannot compare with the side-effects from real withdrawal. BTW,my grandfather died of alcohol withdrawal because he and my grandmother refused to admit that he was an alcoholic. In the hospital they didn't give him any treatment for alcoholism and he died of the DTs. Sad, really sad. That is real addiction.
It is quite lovely when prepared Sichuan style. My whole family loves them
I have also had "discussions " on this topic with muslim students in the last three weeks. I showed a video where a presenter at TED referred to evolution and change RE collaboration. When the presenter used the idea of evolutionary change resulting in better and greater collaboration the students disagreed because evolution is anti-religious in their view. Other presenters who just talked about how this wonderful new thing called collaboration was changing interaction were accepted. Same ideas, same references outside of the presentation but the simple reference to evolution made one right and one wrong. Referring to this the students say that you cannot accept anything a believer in evolution says. Case closed, or should I say, mind closed.
While these are not the brightest lights on the Christmas tree (little muslim/christian humor there) they are people who will go back feeling justified in their faith and feeling that they have stood up for their beliefs. rather than strengthen that sense, I just back off and tell them clearly that I do believe that evolution has proven itself to be the best explanation of change in the world and that ignoring that is a sign of a weak mind. Not popular, but it ends the discussion. I also got a bad evaluation from those two, predominantly muslim, classes. HMMMMM.
I'm so glad to see that British law is so transparent;)>
yo dude, wise up. It is NOT the king that wants this. Every time someone gets convicted the king pardons them and helps them get out of the country. It is the people that do it, especially politicians who want to get popular support from the yellow shirt majority who revere the king. So, back off, while there are some .... interesting.... aspects to the king's life, he is not the source of the laws and he is vehement in his denial of them.
And chill out on the xenophobia, it just makes you look like a cave dweller
MBAs know how to run companies... into the dirt anyway. I have no respect for them, they live in the same mucky world as lawyers
you been modded to the top so i just have to be a ditto head