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In York (England) (where the streets are called gates, the gates are called bars and the bars are called pubs) there is a street called Whip-Ma-Whop-Ma Gate (true) where it is legal to take your drunken Wife and beat her sober.
As far as the law they metioned for York, being able to shoot a scotsman with bow and arrow... I believe that the actual law says that you are _required_ to shoot a scotsman approaching city walls.
And the television license law... well that pays for the BBC. The BBC channels do not have commercials, they get all their money from license fees and selling their show abroad. --
Hmmmm.... I didn't spot the download link... and I specifically looked for it... anyways... and when I said free I meant free as in speech... the GPL doesn't prevent you from charging but it does say that Source Code should be available... anywho thanks Steve --
Last time I visited the cygnus home page I was delighted to find a utility called cygwin. This was a piece of software which gave me a bash prompt and GCC or my windows boxen at work. "Fantastic" I thought... at least I can feel a little more at home on these systems. So I downloaded it felt quite happy using it... obviously not the same as *nix box but definately better than the WinNT shell. Any way, on hearing the news about the RH/Cygnus merger (buy out) I visited the cygnus site, and I now find that CygWin requires purchase. I found this strange as most of the tools GNU tools, bash, gcc etc. I couldn't find any where to download the source etc. Is this in contravention of GPL? I'm not an expert... any thoughts? --
Cracking is a term used to describe the process of breaking the security of a software system. Whether it be a game, an application or on a remote server. This way the term "craking a computer" fits but "hacking a comupter" is just plain bad English (the only way I can see of hacking a computer is with an axe). Hacking is a term used to describe people who spend alot of time enjoying programming... if you class people like Alan Cox with members of 2600 it gets scary. --
the first thing you hear after that is how users got screwed because the product in question wasn't Open Source!
To be honest the only thing thats needs to be open source in the instance of databases, is the interface... if you use an open source database interface, that allows you to change the underlying database at will (open source implementation of ODBC?) it means you can choose your database, and make sure its the best for your needs... and if things change you can reasses the situation, and change the database engine if you fell you need to... --
Slashdot is definitely a community! Not neccessarily a community in the sense of a neighbourhood... but a community all the same.
You're right/.'s a website about Geek stuff. Cool, that makes us that read it a community of Geeks. An online community of geeks... a digitribe if you will.
All the pointers he gave were just to give you an idea of what to write about. If it had just said write an application for a documentary on/. would you have known what to write? I don't think I would have written mine as quickly as I did without them. He by no means will want you to stick rigidly to that format.
As far as friends are concerned, I guess that isn't the right phrase... but there are names you start to recognise... like hawk or Enoch Root or Che Guevarra etc.
I think its a great idea... the program will hopefully show a varied bunch of guys and gals who share one thing... the fact they read/. I just hope you guys in the states get to see it, 'cause there's a lot more of you/.'ers in the US than there are here in the UK!! --
I'm not entirely sure where you're leading here. I understand your argument that we should look at common usage to decide on our standards, but we should also look at quality. A better parallel to this may be to look VHS vs. BetaMac. BetaMac was by far the better format but VHS caught on faster and won. Now we have two digital TV standards DSB and 8-VSB. One of the major reasons for purchasing a Digital TV system is for improved sound/picture quality, but if the standard we implement degrades from this benefit, by being prone to echoes from buildings etc., why bother?
The next question is, if we have a DigitalTV standard that stops certain technical innovations being released (or even being possible according to the article), have we chosen the right standard? We could of course ask, who would really want to watch TV on a mobile phone? But the arguments are still the same! The US is falling behind in Digital TV because the networks are implementing an inferior standard.
Anyway... the good thing is they've used linux!! I wonder if we'll see anything coming back to the community from Nokia! It would be nice to have the Digital TV decoding algorithms etc. --
Palm top computing and networking are fairly different animals so seperating them can't be a bad thing.
Now for the emerging strategic market segments!
"1) handheld operating system licensing."
What exactly this means, I'm not sure... I'd like to think that they will be offering the Palm Pilot with a choice of OS(e.g. Linux, WinCE, Propriety), but more likely they are looking at selling their own PalmOS to other manufacturers (taking on MS and WinCE?).
Another major computer mannufacturer is "supporting" Linux. Its good news. I'm glad. But, I'm going to reserve judgement for a while. There's really not enough on the site just yet to make me smile fully. In fact some of the comments on the site at the moment don't make me smile at all.
The only page with any useful information on is the "Developers" page. Of course this is good, as thats what we want, to be able to support the tosh range. TEC say:
"We at Toshiba would like to offer good comunication channel between people developing device drivers and system utility programs for Toshiba PCs and Toshiba. "
Well this sounds great! But the next paragraph is:
"These information are available with conditions. (Not all free give away). Please request clearly, what you want to do? what kind of information you need, so on. Please understand we are just started to approach in this free field. That's why we will cope case by case, in case of the content need time for answer it or can not give information back. "
Ok maybe I'm not taking it in the right spirit, and I agree they are definitely making the right noises, but I want to see more from them. Ultimately it will help their business, because us geeks won't just want to buy their systems, chances are we will.
I'm looking forward to seeing how it all develops, and seeing more "support" for Linux in the computing world.
Now all I have to do is make my company see the light. Could be a long time coming though, they've just replaced all their Sun Servers with NT Servers. I couldn't even convince them to use PostgreSQL or MySQL on a linux box instead of buying SQL Server and 300 user licenses. --
Yup, starbuck should, I've just tried a rawhide installation, and the default, for my install was enlightnement...but it could've just as easily been K, or windowmaker...its just how decided to install. And its been up for 5 hours now without a problem...I guess RH6.0 will definately be along soon!!
The reason I think that a lot of compnaies will shell out shedloads rather than use free/open opensource software is that they want a comeback. If the system they just installed to run their company fails due to problem with the system...they want to be able to sue the backside of someone for loss of earnings (or whatever the corporate equivalent is). I'm not advocating this, I'm advocating linux but its the world we live in I'm afraid!
Of course in the opens ource/linux community haven't license and stability issues always been our drive!! We bash M$ Windoze because of its increasingly poor stability...and we want to keep our 'free' - (that's free in the open source sense) - software truly 'free'. I'm right behind RedHat for pushing GNOME, and if you want RedHat with KDE why not use Linux-Mandrake and you get the nice asscii penguin at the login screen:)
Steve -- "You can have it fast. You can have it cheap. You can have it right. Pick two..." Or pick Linux
I use Red Hat myself (well mandrake, but it amounts to the same), but what Big Blue have done is exactly what you ghave just said they ahve highlighted the open source community ina way that no one else has the profile to do...the reason they used RedHat is becaues its the distribution that was in the back of the book they bought, not becaues its any better or worse than any other distribution, or UNIX derivative, I wouldn't have been surprised to see the same article arounf FreeBSD but it was RedHat and Linux...and mighty top stuff it was too!!
Of course distributions have to be market led, and this means that a new distribution won't be released until the Company concerned is ready with all the updates of the distribution...
I have been running kernel 2.2.2 without any problem...but I'm guessing most distros will want all of their distribution to be up to speed...after all what goods a 2.2.x dist if you can't install/configure the damn thing...and heck if people like us don't test new kernels it'll take a damn site longer for the dists to update!!
BTW I've noticed several Rawhide packages linked to glibc2.1 and the number is increasing...could thi mean that the culmination of stable Kernel 2.2.x, Gnome 1.0(1) and possibly glibc 2.1 might lead to RH6.0??
-- "You can have it fast You can have it cheap You can have it right Pick two..." or pick Linux
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As far as the law they metioned for York, being able to shoot a scotsman with bow and arrow... I believe that the actual law says that you are _required_ to shoot a scotsman approaching city walls.
And the television license law... well that pays for the BBC. The BBC channels do not have commercials, they get all their money from license fees and selling their show abroad.
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"I was either onto something, or on something!"
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"I was either onto something, or on something!"
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"I was either onto something, or on something!"
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"I was either onto something, or on something!"
To be honest the only thing thats needs to be open source in the instance of databases, is the interface... if you use an open source database interface, that allows you to change the underlying database at will (open source implementation of ODBC?) it means you can choose your database, and make sure its the best for your needs... and if things change you can reasses the situation, and change the database engine if you fell you need to...
--
"I was either onto something, or on something!"
You're right /.'s a website about Geek stuff. Cool, that makes us that read it a community of Geeks. An online community of geeks... a digitribe if you will.
All the pointers he gave were just to give you an idea of what to write about. If it had just said write an application for a documentary on /. would you have known what to write? I don't think I would have written mine as quickly as I did without them. He by no means will want you to stick rigidly to that format.
As far as friends are concerned, I guess that isn't the right phrase... but there are names you start to recognise... like hawk or Enoch Root or Che Guevarra etc.
I think its a great idea... the program will hopefully show a varied bunch of guys and gals who share one thing... the fact they read /. I just hope you guys in the states get to see it, 'cause there's a lot more of you /.'ers in the US than there are here in the UK!!
--
"I was either onto something, or on something!"
The next question is, if we have a DigitalTV standard that stops certain technical innovations being released (or even being possible according to the article), have we chosen the right standard? We could of course ask, who would really want to watch TV on a mobile phone? But the arguments are still the same! The US is falling behind in Digital TV because the networks are implementing an inferior standard.
Anyway... the good thing is they've used linux!! I wonder if we'll see anything coming back to the community from Nokia! It would be nice to have the Digital TV decoding algorithms etc.
--
"I was either onto something, or on something!"
Now for the emerging strategic market segments!
"1) handheld operating system licensing."
What exactly this means, I'm not sure... I'd like to think that they will be offering the Palm Pilot with a choice of OS(e.g. Linux, WinCE, Propriety), but more likely they are looking at selling their own PalmOS to other manufacturers (taking on MS and WinCE?).
"2) enterprise computing solutions."
On a plam top? Discuss.
"3) wireline and wireless Internet services."
Good!
"4) portal sites."
Everybody want some /. pie!
"5) Palm-branded devices."
Errr, is that other than palm top computers?
--
"I was either onto something, or on something!"
The only page with any useful information on is the "Developers" page. Of course this is good, as thats what we want, to be able to support the tosh range. TEC say:
Well this sounds great! But the next paragraph is:
Ok maybe I'm not taking it in the right spirit, and I agree they are definitely making the right noises, but I want to see more from them. Ultimately it will help their business, because us geeks won't just want to buy their systems, chances are we will.
I'm looking forward to seeing how it all develops, and seeing more "support" for Linux in the computing world.
Now all I have to do is make my company see the light. Could be a long time coming though, they've just replaced all their Sun Servers with NT Servers. I couldn't even convince them to use PostgreSQL or MySQL on a linux box instead of buying SQL Server and 300 user licenses.
--
"I was either onto something, or on something!"
Yup, starbuck should, I've just tried a rawhide installation, and the default, for my install was enlightnement...but it could've just as easily been K, or windowmaker...its just how decided to install. And its been up for 5 hours now without a problem...I guess RH6.0 will definately be along soon!!
The reason I think that a lot of compnaies will shell out shedloads rather than use free/open opensource software is that they want a comeback. If the system they just installed to run their company fails due to problem with the system...they want to be able to sue the backside of someone for loss of earnings (or whatever the corporate equivalent is). I'm not advocating this, I'm advocating linux but its the world we live in I'm afraid!
Well that's two students at UMIST who wanna do this...but we'd prob have tot hink of something to test...wonder if we could Win98 not to crash at 0G??
Steve
--
"You can have it fast.
You can have it cheap.
You can have it right.
Pick two..." Or pick Linux
Of course in the opens ource/linux community haven't license and stability issues always been our drive!! We bash M$ Windoze because of its increasingly poor stability...and we want to keep our 'free' - (that's free in the open source sense) - software truly 'free'. I'm right behind RedHat for pushing GNOME, and if you want RedHat with KDE why not use Linux-Mandrake and you get the nice asscii penguin at the login screen :)
Steve
--
"You can have it fast.
You can have it cheap.
You can have it right.
Pick two..." Or pick Linux
I use Red Hat myself (well mandrake, but it amounts to the same), but what Big Blue have done is exactly what you ghave just said they ahve highlighted the open source community ina way that no one else has the profile to do...the reason they used RedHat is becaues its the distribution that was in the back of the book they bought, not becaues its any better or worse than any other distribution, or UNIX derivative, I wouldn't have been surprised to see the same article arounf FreeBSD but it was RedHat and Linux...and mighty top stuff it was too!!
Of course distributions have to be market led, and this means that a new distribution won't be released until the Company concerned is ready with all the updates of the distribution...
I have been running kernel 2.2.2 without any problem...but I'm guessing most distros will want all of their distribution to be up to speed...after all what goods a 2.2.x dist if you can't install/configure the damn thing...and heck if people like us don't test new kernels it'll take a damn site longer for the dists to update!!
BTW I've noticed several Rawhide packages linked to glibc2.1 and the number is increasing...could thi mean that the culmination of stable Kernel 2.2.x, Gnome 1.0(1) and possibly glibc 2.1 might lead to RH6.0??
--
"You can have it fast
You can have it cheap
You can have it right
Pick two..." or pick Linux
Ok, Ok I know I did something very stupid, I realised what I'd done 15min after the post...
But thanks very much for the help!!
Is there anyone who can help me...
/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/.. and if so why is it using these refs?? What can I do about this???
I'm pretty sure I followed the README file to the letter but I'm getting a problem when I
# make zImage
the output I get at the end is
checksum.c:200: redefinition of `csum_partial_copy'
checksum.c:105: `csum_partial_copy' previously defined here
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:188: Fatal error: Symbol csum_partial_copy already defined.
make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/lib'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/lib'
make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2
is this something to do with all the references to
Does anyone know where I can get a tar.gz or rpm for the NFS update >= 2.2beta40
Thanks In Advance