USENET has always been far more than a "mailing list", and I could do things to control/filter/sort messages to my liking with Yarn and slrn that I can't even touch with the web-based forum software I've seen (and I've seen a lot of it).
I really wish web-based forum software would catch up. Even USENET in the early 90's far surpassed it in many respects. Most web forums are nice for posting pictures, but horrible in terms of threading and controlling what actually shows up in your reading list.
Killfiles and regex-controlled score files that can both sort and enhance/block messages based on reader-defined criteria. Very very powerful, something the DOS-based SOUP reader I used to use (Yarn) did back in the early 90's, and something which I've not yet seen even roughly approximated in a web-based forum.
Folks who say that USENET is "antiquated" have no idea of its potential, or how experienced users were able to utilize it in practice.
If you are the sole copyright holder, you can release the code under more then one license if you so desire. That can result in some interesting situations, and the end result might not always be what you want, but as far as I know it's perfectly legal.
BTW - I don't really fit into any party, but the Libertarians come closest to a fit for me. God, I hate that we are only ever given two choices. Can't we ever get anyone to run for office besides Dumb and Dumber?
It sometimes happens. I voted for Jesse Ventura (he ran as an Independent and won).:-)
Of course, some might argue that Dumb and Dumber might've been better than a wrestler for governor, but I found him to be refreshing during his term. At least he let you know where he actually stood on issues, something other MN candidates at the time weren't always known for...
Don't all successful ie useful OS's rely on Unix as the core?
Not really. Besides obvious examples like Windows, there are a number of large server operating systems still in use which predate UNIX (z/OS, MCP, OS 1100), and there are a fair number of devices out there which use operating systems which are not derived from the UNIX family (QNX, Cisco IOS, etc.).
UNIX is perhaps the most visible server OS these days. A little weird for folks like me... when I got my BSCS in the early and mid-1980's, we used several operating systems including MS-DOS, MacOS, OS 1100, VAX/VMS, and CDC's NOS, but we didn't have any access to a UNIX variant at all in the data center.:-)
FWIW, Unisys has accomplished much the same thing with MCP (compatible with older Burroughs A-series and B-series mainframes going back into the mid 1960's, and OS 2200 (compatible with the 2200-series and 1100-series platform all the way back to the UNIVAC 1108).
I don't know how many Unisys mainframe shops are left, but there are still several major ones in the airline industry, and I've seen Burroughs-compatible Clearpath servers in the strangest places. Those things are quite scalable.
Windows NT could run 16-bit VIO OS/2 applications, yes. Not very useful after IBM released the 32-bit version of OS/2 2.0 in 1992. There are some older text utilities that one could run, but most useful OS/2 software after that point was 32-bit.
As an aside, only on the Internet can a discussion about NASA go off on a tangent about interpretation of the Bible.
Wow, you must have boring conversations in real life.:-)
I'm kidding, but I can remember having dozens of multi-hour conversations with friends that meandered all over the place. Surely that can't be an uncommon occurrence?
It's just obvious. The reason for IT's growth during late 90's and early 2000's was because it was new, great technology. Now its getting common.
You must be referring to PC-based IT or Internet-centric IT? Other forms of IT have existed in various forms since the early to mid 1960's, and arguably before. Heck, my current employer has existed as an airline communications company for over 60 years now.:-)
I remember using DCF in a previous position for technical documents in a TS environment, and I remember it using various dot codes (e.g.,.PG, etc.) for formatting, pagination, etc. It wasn't too bad to work with.:-)
I also remember using AppleWorks on an Apple II in the early 80's and using similar text-based markup.
I love my Nokia 770. I use VNC to access Windows and Linux desktops elsewhere in the house, and I also use it for LOTS of other things including reading PDFs and e-books, viewing msps offline via Maemo Mapper (and sometimes as a basic GPS), running various Palm programs via Garnet VM, etc.
In fact, right now I'm writing this via Firefox via VNC from my 770.:-)
Yes, unfortunately. They don't understand that complex applications sometimes require vertical subject matter experts, not just experts in the vanilla technologies involved, and that one person with extensive applications expertise working on an issue can sometimes save the company far more money than throwing a dozen inexpensive bodies at the problem.
Thankfully, the two places that I've worked which had critical systems (one a major airline, the other an airline-related company providing real-time services to airlines) have understood this. But not all companies do, or managers, at least in my experience. And sometimes it costs their employer dearly.
Actually, given the nature of some of the procedural complications involved with using offshore resources located in different time zones and the amount of follow-up work which is sometimes involved, the actual costs of using such resources are often considerably greater than initially presented, and sometimes end up being greater than they would have been were the original two native US resources simply left in place.
There ain't no free lunch, and cheaper front-end labor costs are only part of the picture.
Since when do people forego their paychecks in order to be jurors? I've been on jury duty for two weeks, and my employer continued to pay me as required by law.
Folks in rural areas with already-weak analog signals and no cable options will probably think differently, although there is probably always satellite TV in most locations. Still, the DTV conversion will completely remove an option for a certain number of people due to DTV broadcast range limitations.
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USENET has always been far more than a "mailing list", and I could do things to control/filter/sort messages to my liking with Yarn and slrn that I can't even touch with the web-based forum software I've seen (and I've seen a lot of it).
I really wish web-based forum software would catch up. Even USENET in the early 90's far surpassed it in many respects. Most web forums are nice for posting pictures, but horrible in terms of threading and controlling what actually shows up in your reading list.
Killfiles and regex-controlled score files that can both sort and enhance/block messages based on reader-defined criteria. Very very powerful, something the DOS-based SOUP reader I used to use (Yarn) did back in the early 90's, and something which I've not yet seen even roughly approximated in a web-based forum.
Folks who say that USENET is "antiquated" have no idea of its potential, or how experienced users were able to utilize it in practice.
If you are the sole copyright holder, you can release the code under more then one license if you so desire. That can result in some interesting situations, and the end result might not always be what you want, but as far as I know it's perfectly legal.
Heaven help those who forget that all-important period at the end of IDENTIFICATION-DIVISION :-) :-)
It sometimes happens. I voted for Jesse Ventura (he ran as an Independent and won). :-)
Of course, some might argue that Dumb and Dumber might've been better than a wrestler for governor, but I found him to be refreshing during his term. At least he let you know where he actually stood on issues, something other MN candidates at the time weren't always known for...
Not really. Besides obvious examples like Windows, there are a number of large server operating systems still in use which predate UNIX (z/OS, MCP, OS 1100), and there are a fair number of devices out there which use operating systems which are not derived from the UNIX family (QNX, Cisco IOS, etc.).
UNIX is perhaps the most visible server OS these days. A little weird for folks like me ... when I got my BSCS in the early and mid-1980's, we used several operating systems including MS-DOS, MacOS, OS 1100, VAX/VMS, and CDC's NOS, but we didn't have any access to a UNIX variant at all in the data center. :-)
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FWIW, Unisys has accomplished much the same thing with MCP (compatible with older Burroughs A-series and B-series mainframes going back into the mid 1960's, and OS 2200 (compatible with the 2200-series and 1100-series platform all the way back to the UNIVAC 1108).
I don't know how many Unisys mainframe shops are left, but there are still several major ones in the airline industry, and I've seen Burroughs-compatible Clearpath servers in the strangest places. Those things are quite scalable.
Windows NT could run 16-bit VIO OS/2 applications, yes. Not very useful after IBM released the 32-bit version of OS/2 2.0 in 1992. There are some older text utilities that one could run, but most useful OS/2 software after that point was 32-bit.
I suspect *ANY* product released immediately after a crappy product like Vista would do well, at least initially.
That *is* a lot of money to give to an intern, and some of us have had more fun during our careers than some of those interns will ever see.
Writing languages and compiler optimizers isn't that hard. Try writing software to US Government specs. :-)
Why not go back to FF 3.0? It's still being maintained, and it's still as stable as a rock.
Sometimes the experienced gained is well worth it. Of course, that's an individual call...
Wow, you must have boring conversations in real life. :-)
I'm kidding, but I can remember having dozens of multi-hour conversations with friends that meandered all over the place. Surely that can't be an uncommon occurrence?
You must be referring to PC-based IT or Internet-centric IT? Other forms of IT have existed in various forms since the early to mid 1960's, and arguably before. Heck, my current employer has existed as an airline communications company for over 60 years now. :-)
I remember using DCF in a previous position for technical documents in a TS environment, and I remember it using various dot codes (e.g., .PG, etc.) for formatting, pagination, etc. It wasn't too bad to work with. :-)
I also remember using AppleWorks on an Apple II in the early 80's and using similar text-based markup.
My Nokia 770 displays PDF documents rather nicely, thank you. :-)
I love my Nokia 770. I use VNC to access Windows and Linux desktops elsewhere in the house, and I also use it for LOTS of other things including reading PDFs and e-books, viewing msps offline via Maemo Mapper (and sometimes as a basic GPS), running various Palm programs via Garnet VM, etc.
In fact, right now I'm writing this via Firefox via VNC from my 770. :-)
You're right. There are laws regarding termination in many states (e.g., MN and GA), but not payment. That seems to be a company policy thing.
In MN, you are entitled by law to a reimbursement of $10 per day and $0.27 per mile. Not sure about other states.
Yes, unfortunately. They don't understand that complex applications sometimes require vertical subject matter experts, not just experts in the vanilla technologies involved, and that one person with extensive applications expertise working on an issue can sometimes save the company far more money than throwing a dozen inexpensive bodies at the problem.
Thankfully, the two places that I've worked which had critical systems (one a major airline, the other an airline-related company providing real-time services to airlines) have understood this. But not all companies do, or managers, at least in my experience. And sometimes it costs their employer dearly.
Actually, given the nature of some of the procedural complications involved with using offshore resources located in different time zones and the amount of follow-up work which is sometimes involved, the actual costs of using such resources are often considerably greater than initially presented, and sometimes end up being greater than they would have been were the original two native US resources simply left in place.
There ain't no free lunch, and cheaper front-end labor costs are only part of the picture.
Since when do people forego their paychecks in order to be jurors? I've been on jury duty for two weeks, and my employer continued to pay me as required by law.
Folks in rural areas with already-weak analog signals and no cable options will probably think differently, although there is probably always satellite TV in most locations. Still, the DTV conversion will completely remove an option for a certain number of people due to DTV broadcast range limitations.
I play with C, C++, and Fortran on a regular basis, and well-written Fortran is a lot easier to deal with (IMO) than the other two...
While I generally agree, you obviously don't know much about the airline industry, where new Fortran development still happens all the time. :-)