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  1. Re:Why use DLs? on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    The issue with that is the inability to find the identifier for the person who is being banned. What do you think the response would be to a bouncer saying "We are banning you. Give us you name and DOB." With the additional information of age, height, weight and eye colour a search can be done and instead of trying to match a face with 500 picture you only get ten.

    I agree though that addresses should not be stored. DL# is a convenience as there could be two Tom Smiths born on the same day but DLs are unique.

  2. Re:Why use DLs? on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    Any system that records personal information is prone to abuse and exploitation. The solution is to make the consequences of that misuse so high that it is not worth the risk.

  3. Re:I went somewhere once that did this on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    Actually we are both wrong. The Victoria system takes a picture of the front of the license so modifying the back is irrelevant.

  4. Re:I went somewhere once that did this on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    Which makes that licence no longer valid ID and therefore you can be denied service.

  5. Why use DLs? on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    because Victoria is a tourist town and requiring a membership would cut into business. There is also the issue with the cost, creation and tracking of membership cards. Everyone has to show ID to get into bars these days so that is what they use.

  6. Re:Keep the Idiots out. on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    That is a risk. There is also a simple solution to that; slander laws. Just point out to the bar in question that what is happening is slander and they could be sued for quite a bit of cash. They will change the database quite quickly.

  7. Missed the point on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    This is not an ID verification system; it is an system designed to deny service to bad patrons.

  8. Re:Keep the Idiots out. on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 1

    Because it is on the scanned license. The system has a search function by height, weight, gender etc. The bar can pull up a list of possibles and then compare photographs from the DL.

  9. Keep the Idiots out. on Bars' Scanning of ID Violates BC Privacy Laws · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most of the problems in bars in Victoria are caused by a very few people. They cause a problem at one club, get kicked out, go to the club down the street and repeat the process. They ruin the evening for everyone around them but they don't care because they just want to make trouble. Maybe if they were banned from every bar if they caused trouble in one tey would think twice before causing that trouble. Since when is making trouble at a bar a right?
    The system is designed to inform all bars who have the system that someone has been banned. The simplest way to do it is to use drivers license numbers as they are unique to each person. Now one may say that they should only track the license numbers of individuals who cause issue but just think about trying to get that number as you are throwing someone out. You also have to check to see if they are banned as they come in.
    As for miss-use of the information, there are plenty of civil and criminal penalties to make that not worth the risk.

  10. Bats are not linked. on Radar Could Save Bats From Wind Turbines · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For a bat to learn that something is dangerous it must encounter the danger. The problem is the only way a bat would know a wind turbine is dangerous is by dying. I can see it now. The bat thinks "that weird noise is connected to that dangerous place. I guess I should avoid it in the future" as it plummets to the ground due to burst lungs. Even if one bat could learn the danger and survive, every other bat would have to go through the same process. When we use distinctive noises to ward off animals we use their already known distress calls. There is no learning on the part of the animal.

  11. 60% to 70% still dead on Radar Could Save Bats From Wind Turbines · · Score: 1

    This does not solve the problem.By decreasing activity by 30% to 40% will only decreas the deaths by that percentage. That is still quite e few dead bats