Exactly. AC keeps claiming "Sun licensed it as BSD" as a reason why "BSD is The Way"...which could be true philosophically, but it's not factual as it's CDDL.
Sorry, I tried to continue our original argument and you decided to throw some demand for evidence in my face. Claiming objective humor is an extraordinary claim so I would expect you to provide extraordinary evidence.
I'm making no claim what his reasons were for posting it, but it seems pretty clear. The conclusion is right there -- within easy jumping distance. If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, Occam's Razor demands that we consider that it might actually be an elephant.
Stating "funny jokes are funny" implies some objective metric of humor. I reject that premise.
We can say "he was just joking" all we want but when he goes and acts in a suspiciously similar mindset during his professional duties, the laughter stops. Or at least, it should.
they were "affiliated." As in, "officially attached to or connected."
The article doesn't explain the connection
People have been picking up on this already and noting that the word of the guy responsible for deciding what "affiliated" means is of questionable impartiality.
If they had thought the NMSPRI was a violent organization, they would have just nailed her on that instead of bothering with her association with a third party through 2 members.
FreeBSD has had ZFS for what, over five years now? They are the reason it exists in any actual use (OpenSolaris/Illumos don't count) on any non-Sun/Oracle platform.
God forbid it take the Linux guys longer to get it up and running when Sun purposely licensed it to be difficult to do so on Linux.
And Linux's wannabee ZFS competitor BTRFS (oooh, look at us) sucks so bad it can't get off the ground.
So, this being Linux, some guys* also designed Btrfs to do the same things in the meantime. How dare they!? Sun released ZFS after 4 years of work; Btrfs, 2. Presumably they were working under more of an "agile" setup? Which doesn't really make sense for an FS but hey.
So what does Linux do.... import (steal) ZFS from OpenZFS/FreeBSD
It's called porting, and I don't see how you can call it "stealing" in any honest way.
and start posting about how great all their work with ZFS is, and how Linux bloggers now say 'oh yeah, ZFS is actually solid, so we can use it'. As if they are the only/first ones to certify ZFS.
If you actually skim the article he is saying ZFS On Linux is ready, not ZFS itself.
Thing is, ZFS was always solid. When bashing ZFS Linux was really just babbling about ZFS's more open and free BSD License and their own failure of BTRFS.
Was there bashing of it? Being on Slashdot only since 2007/8 I thought it was more Linux people being irked that they couldn't play with it due to the licensing rather than saying it was crap.
Also, I really hope you're aware that the CDDL and the BSD License(s) are not the same thing. ZFS is CDDL.
If you want an integrated system that just works, try FreeBSD.
You're using "just works" and ZFS in the same argument? With a straight face? The intersection of "Just Works" and people who use ZFS has to be pretty small. If you want Just Works just slap an ext3 or ext4 partition on your desktop and be done with it.
* Interestingly, Wikipedia says Btrfs is (was?) actually an Oracle project. Oracle, of course, bought Sun, which made ZFS. So maybe "competitor" isn't entirely accurate?
Um, technically Firefox (2004) is a branch of a rebrand (Mozilla Suite, 1998) of an open-sourced product (Netscape Communicator, 1997) that was the successor of a commercial suite (Netscape Navigator, 1994) written by the same guys who did Mosaic back in 1993.
Apparently IE was also based on Mosaic around the same time. But did IE end up in the same boat as Windows 1.0-3.0 where nobody actually used it willingly until 3.1? 3.0 was August 1996, then 6.0 sat and chilled from 2001 until 2006.
With the amount of redesigning they've done with IE over the last several years I hardly think it's accurate to say Firefox is more of a reinvention. It was a long evolution that kept getting new names and teams working on it (although the Mozilla Suite lives on as SeaMonkey today, too).
P.S: For some bizarre reason, the IE Wikipedia article jumps from 1.5 to 8 in their main narrative. Um...pretty sure 6 was pretty noteworthy for a long time...
I'd better register Flingity-Flingity.com before somebody else adds it to their list of ridiculous, meaningless Web 2.0 names to use.
Pingly, Vimeo, Hulu, Bing, Twitter...they all sound like effeminate names you give your cat.
Gotta butch up the place. How about PixShitter...PixelHaul...FaceServe (does what it says on the box but probably would get sued by facebook)....PosterGun?
Okay, yes, it's the degradation of the experience as a whole, not the actual program itself. The spark plug analogy is a bit off...it'd be more like transplanting the engine from one car into another and just kind of hooking up all the tubes and wires and hoping for the best.
As in it is nothing to do with the software itself but the system and environment in which it is run, changing the software won't change the system it runs on.
But updating the software to accommodate system changes will get it working again (probably).
Or you could just stay on the same OS forever (the life of the software), I suppose.
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Exactly. AC keeps claiming "Sun licensed it as BSD" as a reason why "BSD is The Way"...which could be true philosophically, but it's not factual as it's CDDL.
Sorry, I tried to continue our original argument and you decided to throw some demand for evidence in my face. Claiming objective humor is an extraordinary claim so I would expect you to provide extraordinary evidence.
I'm making no claim what his reasons were for posting it, but it seems pretty clear. The conclusion is right there -- within easy jumping distance. If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, Occam's Razor demands that we consider that it might actually be an elephant.
Stating "funny jokes are funny" implies some objective metric of humor. I reject that premise.
We can say "he was just joking" all we want but when he goes and acts in a suspiciously similar mindset during his professional duties, the laughter stops. Or at least, it should.
they were "affiliated." As in, "officially attached to or connected."
The article doesn't explain the connection
People have been picking up on this already and noting that the word of the guy responsible for deciding what "affiliated" means is of questionable impartiality.
If they had thought the NMSPRI was a violent organization, they would have just nailed her on that instead of bothering with her association with a third party through 2 members.
until the other student groups learned to defend themselves against it.
So how did they? Not-open membership?
Funny is in the eye of the beholder. I don't find a trained marine punching a professor in the face funny regardless of what he was saying.
Anything about yourself or your family life leaves you vulnerable to blackmail.
So basically, you have a family life at all. The first thing the bad guys on TV do these days is put a gun to the wife's or kid's head.
Whoops! No job for you. Either that, or you're willing to let your family die...does that make you a sociopath?
No, sun purposefully licensed it as BSD to be easy to use anywhere.
No, ZFS is CDDL licensed. ZFS is not BSD licensed. If it were BSD, Linux could pull it in trivially. That's the whole point.
hes using just works with the word freebsd. and yes it does, freebsd is not a distribution slapped together with blah blah blah
Well then this is offtopic. The whole rest of the conversation is about ZFS, not BSD vs. Linux in general.
She knew they had been convicted of murder. She visited one of them in prison.
FTFY
Well, he did do Andromeda...if that was a Hercules joke.
Or is this a Europe vs. U.S. difference? Europe being not that big and having a long history with tons of dead people all needing to be buried.
For comparison, picture the U.S. burying all of its dead in Texas for its entire (only 250 year) history. Would we even run out of space?
FreeBSD has had ZFS for what, over five years now? They are the reason it exists in any actual use (OpenSolaris/Illumos don't count) on any non-Sun/Oracle platform.
God forbid it take the Linux guys longer to get it up and running when Sun purposely licensed it to be difficult to do so on Linux.
And Linux's wannabee ZFS competitor BTRFS (oooh, look at us) sucks so bad it can't get off the ground.
So, this being Linux, some guys* also designed Btrfs to do the same things in the meantime. How dare they!? Sun released ZFS after 4 years of work; Btrfs, 2. Presumably they were working under more of an "agile" setup? Which doesn't really make sense for an FS but hey.
So what does Linux do.... import (steal) ZFS from OpenZFS/FreeBSD
It's called porting, and I don't see how you can call it "stealing" in any honest way.
and start posting about how great all their work with ZFS is, and how Linux bloggers now say 'oh yeah, ZFS is actually solid, so we can use it'. As if they are the only/first ones to certify ZFS.
If you actually skim the article he is saying ZFS On Linux is ready, not ZFS itself.
Thing is, ZFS was always solid. When bashing ZFS Linux was really just babbling about ZFS's more open and free BSD License and their own failure of BTRFS.
Was there bashing of it? Being on Slashdot only since 2007/8 I thought it was more Linux people being irked that they couldn't play with it due to the licensing rather than saying it was crap.
Also, I really hope you're aware that the CDDL and the BSD License(s) are not the same thing. ZFS is CDDL.
If you want an integrated system that just works, try FreeBSD.
You're using "just works" and ZFS in the same argument? With a straight face? The intersection of "Just Works" and people who use ZFS has to be pretty small. If you want Just Works just slap an ext3 or ext4 partition on your desktop and be done with it.
* Interestingly, Wikipedia says Btrfs is (was?) actually an Oracle project. Oracle, of course, bought Sun, which made ZFS. So maybe "competitor" isn't entirely accurate?
Hey, they have secret dinosaurs living in the center of the Earth and Wi-Fi killing people; it can't be any worse.
*does Smith vigorous hand-flap*
I used to play Sauerbraten until that one release where they suddenly doubled the movement speed. That was a shock.
90% of everything is crap.
Um, technically Firefox (2004) is a branch of a rebrand (Mozilla Suite, 1998) of an open-sourced product (Netscape Communicator, 1997) that was the successor of a commercial suite (Netscape Navigator, 1994) written by the same guys who did Mosaic back in 1993.
Apparently IE was also based on Mosaic around the same time. But did IE end up in the same boat as Windows 1.0-3.0 where nobody actually used it willingly until 3.1? 3.0 was August 1996, then 6.0 sat and chilled from 2001 until 2006.
With the amount of redesigning they've done with IE over the last several years I hardly think it's accurate to say Firefox is more of a reinvention. It was a long evolution that kept getting new names and teams working on it (although the Mozilla Suite lives on as SeaMonkey today, too).
P.S: For some bizarre reason, the IE Wikipedia article jumps from 1.5 to 8 in their main narrative. Um...pretty sure 6 was pretty noteworthy for a long time...
People are stupid and shit doesn't work.
Welcome to life
they learned, the US got away with it
The U.S. got away with not launching any nukes? It was concluded the Russian satellite detection system malfunctioned.
What I was going to say. How much could they exercise their morals if they were conquered by the USSR?
As usual it's a question of idealism vs. pragmatism
"correct mistakes" made in drawing the border with Finland
i.e. "we wanted more of it"
You just go ahead and let us know whether you still feel like a smug bastard when it turns out he's right.
"Pingly" also sounds vaguely like a 6-year-old boy referring to his genitals
I'd better register Flingity-Flingity.com before somebody else adds it to their list of ridiculous, meaningless Web 2.0 names to use.
Pingly, Vimeo, Hulu, Bing, Twitter...they all sound like effeminate names you give your cat.
Gotta butch up the place. How about PixShitter...PixelHaul...FaceServe (does what it says on the box but probably would get sued by facebook)....PosterGun?
Okay, yes, it's the degradation of the experience as a whole, not the actual program itself. The spark plug analogy is a bit off...it'd be more like transplanting the engine from one car into another and just kind of hooking up all the tubes and wires and hoping for the best.
As in it is nothing to do with the software itself but the system and environment in which it is run, changing the software won't change the system it runs on.
But updating the software to accommodate system changes will get it working again (probably).
Or you could just stay on the same OS forever (the life of the software), I suppose.