So you can argue and say they wouldn't present the application to AT&T until they could prove it was VoIP, however the fact that they said, and I quote: "Apple does not know if there is a VoIP element in the way the Google Voice application routes calls and messages, and whether VoIP technology is used over the 3G network by the application." Means they are lying about what they know about the application. It takes a 20 yo, me, 5 minutes to research all the technologies involved/used but a multibillion dollar corporation can't do it in over a weeks time? PLEASE! Dirty lying bastards are just trying to buy time..... this just proves they are (1) retarded (2) more likely, lying
I wasn't saying this is why it was denied, I'm just saying there are lying when they say:
"Apple is acting alone and has not consulted with AT&T about whether or not to approve the Google Voice application. No contractual conditions or non-contractual understandings with AT&T have been a factor in Appleâ(TM)s decision-making process in this matter."
This is the hint.......
Question 3. Does AT&T have any role in the approval of iPhone applications generally (or in certain cases)? If so, under what circumstances, and what role does it play? What roles are specified in the contractual provisions between Apple and AT&T (or any non-contractual understandings) regarding the consideration of particular iPhone applications?
Apple alone makes the final decisions to approve or not approve iPhone applications.
"There is a provision in Appleâ(TM)s agreement with AT&T that obligates Apple not to include functionality in any Apple phone that enables a customer to use AT&Tâ(TM)s cellular network service to originate or terminate a VoIP session without obtaining AT&Tâ(TM)s permission. Apple honors this obligation, in addition to respecting AT&Tâ(TM)s customer Terms of Service, which, for example, prohibit an AT&T customer from using AT&Tâ(TM)s cellular service to redirect a TV signal to an iPhone. From time to time, AT&T has expressed concerns regarding network efficiency and potential network congestion associated with certain applications, and Apple takes such concerns into consideration.
Question 4. Please explain any differences between the Google Voice iPhone application and any Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) applications that Apple has approved for the iPhone. Are any of the approved VoIP applications allowed to operate on AT&Tâ(TM)s 3G network?
Apple does not know if there is a VoIP element in the way the Google Voice application routes calls and messages, and whether VoIP technology is used over the 3G network by the application. Apple has approved numerous standard VoIP applications (such as Skype, Nimbuzz and iCall) for use over WiFi, but not over AT&Tâ(TM)s 3G network."
This is all speculation if you haven't guessed, but I feel something is going on. Considering the response is exactly the corporate BS
you'd expect. Similar to "I'm sorry you feel that way" and "Im happy to assist in any way necessary to resolve this problem",
but they don't care, and they don't want to resolve your problem.
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So you can argue and say they wouldn't present the application to AT&T until they could prove it was VoIP, however the fact that they said, and I quote: "Apple does not know if there is a VoIP element in the way the Google Voice application routes calls and messages, and whether VoIP technology is used over the 3G network by the application." Means they are lying about what they know about the application. It takes a 20 yo, me, 5 minutes to research all the technologies involved/used but a multibillion dollar corporation can't do it in over a weeks time? PLEASE! Dirty lying bastards are just trying to buy time..... this just proves they are (1) retarded (2) more likely, lying
I wasn't saying this is why it was denied, I'm just saying there are lying when they say: "Apple is acting alone and has not consulted with AT&T about whether or not to approve the Google Voice application. No contractual conditions or non-contractual understandings with AT&T have been a factor in Appleâ(TM)s decision-making process in this matter." This is the hint....... Question 3. Does AT&T have any role in the approval of iPhone applications generally (or in certain cases)? If so, under what circumstances, and what role does it play? What roles are specified in the contractual provisions between Apple and AT&T (or any non-contractual understandings) regarding the consideration of particular iPhone applications? Apple alone makes the final decisions to approve or not approve iPhone applications. "There is a provision in Appleâ(TM)s agreement with AT&T that obligates Apple not to include functionality in any Apple phone that enables a customer to use AT&Tâ(TM)s cellular network service to originate or terminate a VoIP session without obtaining AT&Tâ(TM)s permission. Apple honors this obligation, in addition to respecting AT&Tâ(TM)s customer Terms of Service, which, for example, prohibit an AT&T customer from using AT&Tâ(TM)s cellular service to redirect a TV signal to an iPhone. From time to time, AT&T has expressed concerns regarding network efficiency and potential network congestion associated with certain applications, and Apple takes such concerns into consideration. Question 4. Please explain any differences between the Google Voice iPhone application and any Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) applications that Apple has approved for the iPhone. Are any of the approved VoIP applications allowed to operate on AT&Tâ(TM)s 3G network? Apple does not know if there is a VoIP element in the way the Google Voice application routes calls and messages, and whether VoIP technology is used over the 3G network by the application. Apple has approved numerous standard VoIP applications (such as Skype, Nimbuzz and iCall) for use over WiFi, but not over AT&Tâ(TM)s 3G network." This is all speculation if you haven't guessed, but I feel something is going on. Considering the response is exactly the corporate BS you'd expect. Similar to "I'm sorry you feel that way" and "Im happy to assist in any way necessary to resolve this problem", but they don't care, and they don't want to resolve your problem.