RedHat is not selling Linux or GNU tools it is convenient to think so but in reality it is plainly not true.
I do not buy RedHat CD's because they have the latest greatest Linux or Tools on them but because they are easy to install and maintain.
RedHat sells the work they but into putting all these utilities together in a convienient and usable format. I would gladly pay the the $50 for that. It's a lot of work and I think they are doing a great job and obviously 400 000 other people think the same thing.
Also I am willing to buy my RedHat CD because I know that that money does not just go into pockets but are actually used to advance the cause of Linux and to help fund other projects that make Linux a better project.
The GNU License says that you cannot sell the software for an unreasonable amount of money. RedHat is not doing that. I do think that SCO is selling their product for an unreasonable amount of money and that is why I'm not using it.
I believe that the Linux community is not anti capitalism or even believe you should not be paid for work you do we just believe that you should not get paid an excuberant amount of money for inverior work.
I also believe that someone outside the Linux community have no say in what RedHat does with Linux or the GNU tools that come with it. But I do believe that they are towing a very thin line and that the Linux community will keep them there.
The question being asked is how on earth can this materialize. Is it possible.
Questions: 1. There isn't enough schools with computers. (You are quite right but there is a few schools that do have computer labs most of these was paid out of funds collected by the students themselves but there is.)
2. How are they going to maintain these systems if they move over to Linux and WP. Again I can comfortably administrate a 160 computer lab with linux installed. It would be easy to get students involved to keep the labs operational (for a very small fee compared to comercial offerings.)
The problems that was mentioned so far is not really that significant and can easilly be overcome. Eg. I'm sure that labs can be shared by scholls in the same area I'm sure you can get people for cheap to help setup and maintain the lab.
The biggest problem in these schools is Linux and applications themselves.
SA schools do not use Word Processors in their labs. Very rorelly will you see this being used. The labs are normally used for something like Computers Science invariably given by someone with less than a years computer knowledge. In most cases around half the class knows more about the su bject than the teacher.
The only advantages and programs that a school in SA really needs is course ware. (Presenting multimedia courses as well as testing ). This is sorelly lacking on Linux (in anycase I have not found a project yet that is usefull).
Give me that type of software or the money to develop that type of software for linux and I will get the goverment to pay for Linux installations and maintenance of the software.
Linux is already in most institutional orginitations on Tertiary level but they arestill not in the Educational labs and until it gets there Linux would be useless to schools.
I'll gladly install Linux and Wordperfect on the school in my surrounding area. But will they be using it ?
I've been typing for around 12 years now 10 of those 12 years was spend in the QWERTY world so I was pretty fast.
Here is just a few things that I noticed when switching over. This after almost a year of using the dvorak layout and still typing faster on the qwerty layout.
1. With Dvorak you tend to make more mistakes.
2. Dvorak have to be setup and this causes problems when youn need to fix your computer.
3. Nobody else can use your console and this is sometimes an atvantage (yes they can and do telnet/ssh/rlogin in).
Advantages: 1. Keys are placed in more logical arrangement. (A new typist must start looking at the hame keys and then move to the outside)
2. To reach the same speed with the Dvorak as the QWERTY you type much ligter (not as much noise).
3. It's ligter on the fingers I spend 8 hours in front of a computer after 8 hours with a Qwerty keyboard you hurt really bad Dvorak solved that for me.
4. You learn to touch type with Dvorak that I could never really pick up with the Qwerty. (Yes I could type faster than most secretaries. But I still use 8 fingers and only occasionally my pinky. I'm starting to touch type aftter about 2 years of fultime usage.)
5. The most impartant reason to use a dvorak keyboard is of course the coolness factor. Very few people can use the dvorak keyboard and feel really uncomfortable using it so they tend to leave my computer alone when I'm not there.
I'll have to test my typing speed again but I think I'm still under my Qwerty speed but that doesn't really matter because I have increased the quality of my Linux experience by switching to the dvorak keyboard.
Linux kernel was developed by Linus because he thought he could do it better than a computer science professor with years of experience what arrogance.
The whole GNU project was founded on the permise that there could be something better. What development tools are you currently using ?
Most open source software was designed to be better than another piece of software.
To be able to do this you need to be arrogant, and a few other non flattering personal attributes assosiated with youth.
The secret is that the open source (actually open development) environment allows for this and rewards you if you where right and flames you if yo where wrong. But you still need to try.
RMS made a major contribution GNU is the license that most of us use and of course this comes up at least once a week.
The answer is very simply who cares. Whether it's called GNU/LINUX or Linux (Linux being just the kernel) I can setup a linux system with no GNU tools. Again something like GNOME runs on top of Linux on top of GNU software on top of X. But something like a router can easilly be setup to just run on top of Linux.
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RedHat is not selling Linux or GNU tools it is convenient to think so but in reality it is plainly not true.
I do not buy RedHat CD's because they have the latest greatest Linux or Tools on them but because they are easy to install and maintain.
RedHat sells the work they but into putting all these utilities together in a convienient and usable format. I would gladly pay the the $50 for that. It's a lot of work and I think they are doing a great job and obviously 400 000 other people think the same thing.
Also I am willing to buy my RedHat CD because I know that that money does not just go into pockets but are actually used to advance the cause of Linux and to help fund other projects that make Linux a better project.
The GNU License says that you cannot sell the software for an unreasonable amount of money. RedHat is not doing that. I do think that SCO is selling their product for an unreasonable amount of money and that is why I'm not using it.
I believe that the Linux community is not anti capitalism or even believe you should not be paid for work you do we just believe that you should not get paid an excuberant amount of money for inverior work.
I also believe that someone outside the Linux community have no say in what RedHat does with Linux or the GNU tools that come with it. But I do believe that they are towing a very thin line and that the Linux community will keep them there.
I think this is a great idea.
The question being asked is how on earth can this materialize. Is it possible.
Questions:
1. There isn't enough schools with computers. (You are quite right but there is a few schools that do have computer labs most of these was paid out of funds collected by the students themselves but there is.)
2. How are they going to maintain these systems if they move over to Linux and WP. Again I can comfortably administrate a 160 computer lab with linux installed. It would be easy to get students involved to keep the labs operational (for a very small fee compared to comercial offerings.)
The problems that was mentioned so far is not really that significant and can easilly be overcome. Eg. I'm sure that labs can be shared by scholls in the same area I'm sure you can get people for cheap to help setup and maintain the lab.
The biggest problem in these schools is Linux and applications themselves.
SA schools do not use Word Processors in their labs. Very rorelly will you see this being used. The labs are normally used for something like Computers Science invariably given by someone with less than a years computer knowledge. In most cases around half the class knows more about the su bject than the teacher.
The only advantages and programs that a school in SA really needs is course ware. (Presenting multimedia courses as well as testing ). This is sorelly lacking on Linux (in anycase I have not found a project yet that is usefull).
Give me that type of software or the money to develop that type of software for linux and I will get the goverment to pay for Linux installations and maintenance of the software.
Linux is already in most institutional orginitations on Tertiary level but they arestill not in the Educational labs and until it gets there Linux would be useless to schools.
I'll gladly install Linux and Wordperfect on the school in my surrounding area. But will they be using it ?
Again pro DVORAK.
I've been typing for around 12 years now 10 of those 12 years was spend in the QWERTY world so I was pretty fast.
Here is just a few things that I noticed when switching over. This after almost a year of using the dvorak layout and still typing faster on the qwerty layout.
1. With Dvorak you tend to make more mistakes.
2. Dvorak have to be setup and this causes problems when youn need to fix your computer.
3. Nobody else can use your console and this is sometimes an atvantage (yes they can and do telnet/ssh/rlogin in).
Advantages:
1. Keys are placed in more logical arrangement. (A new typist must start looking at the hame keys and then move to the outside)
2. To reach the same speed with the Dvorak as the QWERTY you type much ligter (not as much noise).
3. It's ligter on the fingers I spend 8 hours in front of a computer after 8 hours with a Qwerty keyboard you hurt really bad Dvorak solved that for me.
4. You learn to touch type with Dvorak that I could never really pick up with the Qwerty. (Yes I could type faster than most secretaries. But I still use 8 fingers and only occasionally my pinky. I'm starting to touch type aftter about 2 years of fultime usage.)
5. The most impartant reason to use a dvorak keyboard is of course the coolness factor. Very few people can use the dvorak keyboard and feel really uncomfortable using it so they tend to leave my computer alone when I'm not there.
I'll have to test my typing speed again but I think I'm still under my Qwerty speed but that doesn't really matter because I have increased the quality of my Linux experience by switching to the dvorak keyboard.
Is it really such a bad thing.
Linux kernel was developed by Linus because he thought he could do it better than a computer science professor with years of experience what arrogance.
The whole GNU project was founded on the permise that there could be something better. What development tools are you currently using ?
Most open source software was designed to be better than another piece of software.
To be able to do this you need to be arrogant, and a few other non flattering personal attributes assosiated with youth.
The secret is that the open source (actually open development) environment allows for this and rewards you if you where right and flames you if yo where wrong. But you still need to try.
RMS made a major contribution GNU is the license that most of us use and of course this comes up at least once a week.
The answer is very simply who cares. Whether it's called GNU/LINUX or Linux (Linux being just the kernel) I can setup a linux system with no GNU tools. Again something like GNOME runs on top of Linux on top of GNU software on top of X. But something like a router can easilly be setup to just run on top of Linux.