Personally I'd be tempted arrange the screens so everyone else can see what others are doing, maybe not close enough to read the text, but enough to see nuddy pics, combine that with an internal messaging service so they can be grassed off. Then make any offenders undergo questioning from your other clients as to their morality
Oh, great, so I get to put up with Mrs. Ultra-Conservative-Christan's aversion to naked bodies? Frankly, I really don't give a shit if little old ladies can't handle seeing body parts that every normal person on the planet has.
Set the stations up to be private, and don't allow unsupervised children without a release from their parents.
And, as you make the equipment smaller you gain all kinds of advantages [...] A look at our cell phone technology tells you these things are possible, and that's not even getting into the nano possibilites
Part of the problem there is that there is very little in the way of electronics that can reliably operate for years or decades in space. Only recently has Intel started working on a radiation hardened pentium (thats a pentium I as I recall) for the space program. Never did hear what happened to that project.
You can't just order a bunch of chips from motorola and start building spacecraft. Shortly after launch they'd all be fried by radation.
We haven't made a serious improvement on the Space Shuttle since it was built!
Actually, at least one is getting a major instrumentation overhual, including all the fancy new glass-cockpit gadgets like those went into the 777.
However, I agree, they should have been spending more money on a cheaper reusable launch vehicle. They HAVE been spending money on it, and there are some pretty good designs, but nothing out of testing stages.
Yes, we've polluted enough here, lets go shit all over the rest of the solar system too.
Nevermind that we won't have technology to make space colonization profitable (or even self-sustaining) for decades, or the sense to limit our reproduction rates to something less than exponential, or the sense to see that allowing anyone and everyone to spill their rotten chromosomal load into our gene pool and keeping poor specimines of humanity around regardless of their physical fitness to anything other than swilling beer and cheetos in front of a 102 inch HDTV while watching pointless and stupid sitcoms is a phenominally good way to run a species into the ground.
My point of course is that humanity is philosphicaly very immature, and I don't think that we should go colonizing any other orbiting bodies until we can figure out how to live on this one, which is phenominaly forgiving from an environmental standpoint, without breeding like rats and dumping waste products all over the place.
I believe that NASA would be better off ditching all its long distance landers[...] for a decade or two. In that time it could plow some serious investment [...]into better propulsion technologies.
And what exactly would they be using these better propulsion technologies for? How many decades do you think they should sit around making new propulsion technology before they acutally USE it for something? Maybe we should do the same thing with computers, Intel should quite releasing new processors based on the same old stuff and spend a few years developing faster, better stuff and just chucking the intermediate designs in the waste bin.
It should be pretty obvious that what we have now is already profitable (unless you do something truly dumb-assed like Iridium), so theres not really any good reason NOT to use it. The technology can't be developed all that much faster anyway, we have to have time to test the stuff in space, and while its spending years propelling a probe, we're back here workign on the next model.
The vast majority of copiers cannot reasonably be caught.
Most artists already make little or no money on their recorded music.
Logical conclusion, artists will record their own music under their own copyrights and sell high quality MP3 online for small fees ($0.5-1).
Result, some people will buy their music online directly from the artist and many will take free copies. Small artists will make somewhat more from recorded music, large artists will make much less. RIAA will make nothing and will wither up into a dry little ball and die quietly.
I have no doubts that this will happen, because there is no longer a need for large distributers. Any $100 harddrive will store all the music any sane person can handle, so streaming music is not necessary. Any idiot with a band and half a brain can set up a website to sell their music online. Perhaps the business will move to studios that charge artists to record the music and handle selling it on the internet for them.
Heck, yeah! Lets sue them so we can all get $0.01 of the award money!
Of course, my point is that any money awared in class action lawsuits should go to a handful of good causes, not to 50 million people who aren't going to give half a shit if they get a miniscule portion of the money or not.
For example. You email Joe Blow regarding a post you saw on a forum about gardening. Little did you know that Joe Blow had earlier emailed someone else, whose email he got off a forsale newsgroup advertising hydroponics. Turns out the guy selling the hydroponics was suspected of selling drugs, because his hydro bill was high enough to set off a flag. Now Joe Blow is just a gardener, but he was dealing with a drug dealer, and now YOU are dealing with someone who has delt with a drug dealer. You automatically have a "relationship" with a drug dealer based on an indirect contact.
Hmm, lets see here, 6 degrees around the world, how many drug dealers and other undesirables do you suppose we are all linked to in just a couple steps?
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it is impossible to claim that there is no benefit to be had from computers and technology. It's quite simply the difference between working and working better
I would like to point out that having less to do, generally speaking, has not really improved the life of most Americans. A large portion of the population under age 25 don't know what to do with themselves if they aren't working or going to school.
At some point in the next few hundred years, the majority of the world population will probably have very little to do. Perpetual summer vacation.
No doubt there will be legions of artists and plenty of explorers pushing at the frontiers, but what of the rest of humanity?
At this point much effort is dedicated to improving the world around us, but not much toward improving ourselves.
I just hope that our education plans for the future will focus more on teaching children how to think and reason, and to think about why they do what they do, and what they ought to be doing. Perhaps they will learn that life isn't necessarily always about working less, but often about enjoying the work (of course, finding better ways to work is work in itself, but there is a logical end to the progression of reducing human workload).
I'm not expressing anti-technology sentiments here, I think it will be a great day when all people no longer have to work to survive (as opposed to working solely because they like the work), I'm just concerned that when that time comes, people will not be ready for it.
--All 'uploaded' files are split into small 64Kb blocks. 'File advertisements' are broadcast through out the network. Your Blocks application needs to be running to see them. When you do a 'search' you are actually searching the local list maintained by your Blocks application, searches are never broadcast.--
Holy Cow! Imagine how much network traffic that must generate! The search traffic on gnutella is bad enough, but this thing acutally transfers the files through the chain!? Jeez. I guess modem users aren't too big on using this network?
Its cool in that it makes it easy to see how many thousands of copies of the same file are floating around, and removes the direct client to client transfers.
I'd be interested to see how they handle traffic routing and such. Cool idea.
--For anyone to download a file from you using Gnutella, they must know your IP address. All an RIAA lawyer has to do is search Gnutella for some copyrighted recording, find it on your machine available for download, contact your ISP to find out who owns that address (or who was on it at some point in time, if it's DHCP), and then sue you.--
IINAL, but IMO to make it stick, they should have to prove that you do not, or did not at the time, have the CD/tape/8track of the music. Or have it checked out from the local library. Or have a friend over who had the CD.
IMO, it would also have to be a song that was not currently being played on the radio.
Quote: Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches. If they had done this comparatively simple task [...]
Simple?? SIMPLE?? How the HELL is that SIMPLE?
Just filter for what, song titles? That won't work, they'll just get renamed. Can't find a renamed version? No problem, just hop into the chat room and ask!
Maybe they could use some pattern matching software to play the file and see if its a Metallica song.. OOps, they'd have to release a new client to do that on everyones machine, and thats not exactly simple. And OOPs, the files can be zipped and Wrapstered, or obtusified in any number of other ways.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, the old business model of copyrighted, royalty paid music DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE! The only reason it ever worked was because only a few people could make near-perfect duplicates in large quantities. Now that anyone can do that (and put it on a CD even), that old business model should GO AWAY!
Guess I need to start hitting Preview huh? repost below.
>>Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches. If they had done this comparatively simple task>The straw that broke the camels back was being able to download their MI2 single from Napster before they had even finished recording it.
Not our problem. Once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back! The same problem existed before (studio employees stealing copies). If thats their bitch, tell them to fix the problem (sack the guy who stole the recording), not attack the new distribution channels.
Oops, damn HTML, sorry, repost below. >>Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches. If they had done this comparatively simple task>The straw that broke the camels back was being able to download their MI2 single from Napster before they had even finished recording it. Not our problem. Once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back! The same problem existed before (studio employees stealing copies). If thats their bitch, tell them to fix the problem (sack the guy who stole the recording), not attack the new distribution channels.
>>Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches. If they had done this comparatively simple task>The straw that broke the camels back was being able to download their MI2 single from Napster before they had even finished recording it. Not our problem. Once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back! The same problem existed before (studio employees stealing copies). If thats their bitch, tell them to fix the problem (sack the guy who stole the recording), not attack the new distribution channels.
I couldn't care less if Napster goes down, they are not the only game, just one of the first, and therefore the most visible.
What I care about is the outcome of the lawsuit. The position that copyrighted music has filled for the past few decades is comming to an end.
Distribution technology has reached a point that the business model of existing record companies is no longer the 'best' method for a large portion of the population.
Today making near-perfect copies of music is something anyone can do, not just the record companies. Distributing music to the masses is something anyone can do, not just the record companies. It seems to me that the nitch that record companies have filled, the reproduction and distribution of music, is now GONE, and the huge profits from that market will dissapear.
Attempting to maintain that market with laws is STUPID, it is not an economicly or technologicly sound business, and it should vanish, to be replaced by something shiny and new.
But wait, you say, the poor artists won't be able to make billions of dollars on their music any more! I say, so what? I'd rather listen to the music of someone dedicated to the production of art than the spewings of a rap-monster that just wants to get rich.
If the advance of technology wipes out a market, so be it, new markets will appear, and people will adapt.
"Linux spreads to the clueless mass desktop user who *just* *doesn't* *care* the way we do about security, our concerns will not matter." Which is why the operating system must be designed to take care of this transparently. The vast majority of home users should not have access to their system files, but should still be able to install new software. Perhaps some kind of encrypted, signed installation packages that the system can verify as valid, then install into the system for the user, without letting the braindead user get to the system (without knowing what they are doing) would be a workable solution for home users.
"Anyway, none of the computers that I ever owned ever had any kind of anti-virus software on them. Ever. Yet, I've never been infected."
Not having any anti-virus software, how can you be sure of that? Perhaps you just never noticed, or do you regularly examine all your EXE's and boot sectors?
Perhaps it would be better to say that you've never had a system failure that you could conclusivly track back to a virus.
"I personally believe that the vast majority of viruses on Win systems come from stupid people opening executables in the email attachments. I seriously believe that if EVERY EMAIL CLIENT simply disregarded (throw away) executable attachments, we'd see a HUGE decrease in virulent outbreaks. After all, we have FTP and the web for distributing programs. Using email for that purpose is a complete waste."
Unfortunately computers and the internet ought to be usable by the average joe as well as the technicly savvy. It is important that all users be able to share files easily, and safely.
The proper solution is to make it hard for the virus writters, not the users.
"OK, they want to block illegal mp3s. Whether or not you agree with this is a different issue. How about they analyze the packets, and, in the case of an mp3, check the ID3 tag to ensure whether or not it is illegally distributed, *then* decide if it should be blocked or not?" An obvious point is that just because a particular music select is copyrighted doesn't make it illegal. Many people own hundreds of CDs and would like to have them as MP3, but do not have the time/equipment/inclination to rip them personally.
Almost pratcial for a home user or small server perhaps, but there's no way I'm going to sit around and load CD's to do a multi-gigabyte backup of a corporate server every night.
Even if AOL decides to kill it, why does it matter? The concept is good, and the programming itself is not horribly complicated, it would not be difficult for some of us to quit babbling about how bad it is for AOL to be in control of something like this and write something that does the same thing under a more favorable license. -- Disclamer: Opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the owners of any networks which have been utilized to transmit this message. This should be obvious to anyone with half a brain, unfortunately, the owners of large networks tend to subscribe to the 'Cover Your Ass' business philosophy, thus disclamers are required to make them feel warm and fuzzy.
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Oh, great, so I get to put up with Mrs. Ultra-Conservative-Christan's aversion to naked bodies? Frankly, I really don't give a shit if little old ladies can't handle seeing body parts that every normal person on the planet has.
Set the stations up to be private, and don't allow unsupervised children without a release from their parents.
Given the complexity of the hardware they were using at the time, they probably could have rewritten the entire system in a couple days.
Part of the problem there is that there is very little in the way of electronics that can reliably operate for years or decades in space. Only recently has Intel started working on a radiation hardened pentium (thats a pentium I as I recall) for the space program. Never did hear what happened to that project.
You can't just order a bunch of chips from motorola and start building spacecraft. Shortly after launch they'd all be fried by radation.
Actually, at least one is getting a major instrumentation overhual, including all the fancy new glass-cockpit gadgets like those went into the 777.
However, I agree, they should have been spending more money on a cheaper reusable launch vehicle. They HAVE been spending money on it, and there are some pretty good designs, but nothing out of testing stages.
Yes, we've polluted enough here, lets go shit all over the rest of the solar system too.
Nevermind that we won't have technology to make space colonization profitable (or even self-sustaining) for decades, or the sense to limit our reproduction rates to something less than exponential, or the sense to see that allowing anyone and everyone to spill their rotten chromosomal load into our gene pool and keeping poor specimines of humanity around regardless of their physical fitness to anything other than swilling beer and cheetos in front of a 102 inch HDTV while watching pointless and stupid sitcoms is a phenominally good way to run a species into the ground.
My point of course is that humanity is philosphicaly very immature, and I don't think that we should go colonizing any other orbiting bodies until we can figure out how to live on this one, which is phenominaly forgiving from an environmental standpoint, without breeding like rats and dumping waste products all over the place.
And what exactly would they be using these better propulsion technologies for? How many decades do you think they should sit around making new propulsion technology before they acutally USE it for something? Maybe we should do the same thing with computers, Intel should quite releasing new processors based on the same old stuff and spend a few years developing faster, better stuff and just chucking the intermediate designs in the waste bin.
It should be pretty obvious that what we have now is already profitable (unless you do something truly dumb-assed like Iridium), so theres not really any good reason NOT to use it. The technology can't be developed all that much faster anyway, we have to have time to test the stuff in space, and while its spending years propelling a probe, we're back here workign on the next model.
Thats stupid, they should have to prove that you DID have contact with their proprietary info.
Sometimes American law makes me want to move to some nice North Pacific island chain.
Logical conclusion, artists will record their own music under their own copyrights and sell high quality MP3 online for small fees ($0.5-1).
Result, some people will buy their music online directly from the artist and many will take free copies. Small artists will make somewhat more from recorded music, large artists will make much less. RIAA will make nothing and will wither up into a dry little ball and die quietly.
I have no doubts that this will happen, because there is no longer a need for large distributers. Any $100 harddrive will store all the music any sane person can handle, so streaming music is not necessary. Any idiot with a band and half a brain can set up a website to sell their music online. Perhaps the business will move to studios that charge artists to record the music and handle selling it on the internet for them.
Heck, yeah! Lets sue them so we can all get $0.01 of the award money!
Of course, my point is that any money awared in class action lawsuits should go to a handful of good causes, not to 50 million people who aren't going to give half a shit if they get a miniscule portion of the money or not.
Hmm, lets see here, 6 degrees around the world, how many drug dealers and other undesirables do you suppose we are all linked to in just a couple steps?
I would like to point out that having less to do, generally speaking, has not really improved the life of most Americans. A large portion of the population under age 25 don't know what to do with themselves if they aren't working or going to school.
At some point in the next few hundred years, the majority of the world population will probably have very little to do. Perpetual summer vacation.
No doubt there will be legions of artists and plenty of explorers pushing at the frontiers, but what of the rest of humanity?
At this point much effort is dedicated to improving the world around us, but not much toward improving ourselves.
I just hope that our education plans for the future will focus more on teaching children how to think and reason, and to think about why they do what they do, and what they ought to be doing. Perhaps they will learn that life isn't necessarily always about working less, but often about enjoying the work (of course, finding better ways to work is work in itself, but there is a logical end to the progression of reducing human workload).
I'm not expressing anti-technology sentiments here, I think it will be a great day when all people no longer have to work to survive (as opposed to working solely because they like the work), I'm just concerned that when that time comes, people will not be ready for it.
--All 'uploaded' files are split into small 64Kb blocks. 'File advertisements' are broadcast through out the network. Your Blocks application needs to be running to see them. When you do a 'search' you are actually searching the local list maintained by your Blocks application, searches are never broadcast.--
Holy Cow! Imagine how much network traffic that must generate! The search traffic on gnutella is bad enough, but this thing acutally transfers the files through the chain!? Jeez. I guess modem users aren't too big on using this network?
Its cool in that it makes it easy to see how many thousands of copies of the same file are floating around, and removes the direct client to client transfers.
I'd be interested to see how they handle traffic routing and such. Cool idea.
--For anyone to download a file from you using Gnutella, they must know your IP address. All an RIAA lawyer has to do is search Gnutella for some copyrighted recording, find it on your machine available for download, contact your ISP to find out who owns that address (or who was on it at some point in time, if it's DHCP), and then sue you.--
IINAL, but IMO to make it stick, they should have to prove that you do not, or did not at the time, have the CD/tape/8track of the music. Or have it checked out from the local library. Or have a friend over who had the CD.
IMO, it would also have to be a song that was not currently being played on the radio.
Quote:
Lars has stated this publicly again and again.
Metallica basically asked for a filter to be
applied to Napster searches.
If they had done this comparatively simple
task [...]
Simple?? SIMPLE?? How the HELL is that SIMPLE?
Just filter for what, song titles? That won't work, they'll just get renamed. Can't find a renamed version? No problem, just hop into the chat room and ask!
Maybe they could use some pattern matching software to play the file and see if its a Metallica song.. OOps, they'd have to release a new client to do that on everyones machine, and thats not exactly simple. And OOPs, the files can be zipped and Wrapstered, or obtusified in any number of other ways.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, the old business model of copyrighted, royalty paid music DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE! The only reason it ever worked was because only a few people could make near-perfect duplicates in large quantities. Now that anyone can do that (and put it on a CD even), that old business model should GO AWAY!
Guess I need to start hitting Preview huh?
repost below.
>>Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches.
If they had done this comparatively simple task>The straw that broke the camels back was being able to download their MI2 single from Napster before they had even finished recording it.
Not our problem. Once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back! The same problem existed before (studio employees stealing copies). If thats their bitch, tell them to fix the problem (sack the guy who stole the recording), not attack the new distribution channels.
Oops, damn HTML, sorry, repost below. >>Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches. If they had done this comparatively simple task>The straw that broke the camels back was being able to download their MI2 single from Napster before they had even finished recording it. Not our problem. Once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back! The same problem existed before (studio employees stealing copies). If thats their bitch, tell them to fix the problem (sack the guy who stole the recording), not attack the new distribution channels.
>>Lars has stated this publicly again and again. Metallica basically asked for a filter to be applied to Napster searches. If they had done this comparatively simple task>The straw that broke the camels back was being able to download their MI2 single from Napster before they had even finished recording it. Not our problem. Once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back! The same problem existed before (studio employees stealing copies). If thats their bitch, tell them to fix the problem (sack the guy who stole the recording), not attack the new distribution channels.
I couldn't care less if Napster goes down, they are not the only game, just one of the first, and therefore the most visible.
What I care about is the outcome of the lawsuit.
The position that copyrighted music has filled for the past few decades is comming to an end.
Distribution technology has reached a point that the business model of existing record companies is no longer the 'best' method for a large portion of the population.
Today making near-perfect copies of music is something anyone can do, not just the record companies. Distributing music to the masses is something anyone can do, not just the record companies. It seems to me that the nitch that record companies have filled, the reproduction and distribution of music, is now GONE, and the huge profits from that market will dissapear.
Attempting to maintain that market with laws is STUPID, it is not an economicly or technologicly sound business, and it should vanish, to be replaced by something shiny and new.
But wait, you say, the poor artists won't be able to make billions of dollars on their music any more! I say, so what? I'd rather listen to the music of someone dedicated to the production of art than the spewings of a rap-monster that just wants to get rich.
If the advance of technology wipes out a market, so be it, new markets will appear, and people will adapt.
"Linux spreads to the clueless mass desktop user who *just* *doesn't* *care* the way we do about security, our concerns will not matter." Which is why the operating system must be designed to take care of this transparently. The vast majority of home users should not have access to their system files, but should still be able to install new software. Perhaps some kind of encrypted, signed installation packages that the system can verify as valid, then install into the system for the user, without letting the braindead user get to the system (without knowing what they are doing) would be a workable solution for home users.
"Anyway, none of the computers that I ever owned ever had any kind of anti-virus software on them. Ever. Yet, I've never been infected."
Not having any anti-virus software, how can you be sure of that? Perhaps you just never noticed, or do you regularly examine all your EXE's and boot sectors?
Perhaps it would be better to say that you've never had a system failure that you could conclusivly track back to a virus.
"I personally believe that the vast majority of viruses on Win systems come from stupid people opening executables in the email attachments. I seriously believe that if EVERY EMAIL CLIENT simply disregarded (throw away) executable attachments, we'd see a HUGE decrease in virulent outbreaks. After all, we have FTP and the web for distributing programs. Using email for that purpose is a complete waste."
Unfortunately computers and the internet ought to be usable by the average joe as well as the technicly savvy. It is important that all users be able to share files easily, and safely.
The proper solution is to make it hard for the virus writters, not the users.
"OK, they want to block illegal mp3s. Whether or not you agree with this is a different issue. How about they analyze the packets, and, in the case of an mp3, check the ID3 tag to ensure whether or not it is illegally distributed, *then* decide if it should be blocked or not?" An obvious point is that just because a particular music select is copyrighted doesn't make it illegal. Many people own hundreds of CDs and would like to have them as MP3, but do not have the time/equipment/inclination to rip them personally.
Almost pratcial for a home user or small server perhaps, but there's no way I'm going to sit around and load CD's to do a multi-gigabyte backup of a corporate server every night.
Would take even less if you used an incrimental backup system. Not much point in backing up everything every time.
Even if AOL decides to kill it, why does it matter? The concept is good, and the programming itself is not horribly complicated, it would not be difficult for some of us to quit babbling about how bad it is for AOL to be in control of something like this and write something that does the same thing under a more favorable license. -- Disclamer: Opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the owners of any networks which have been utilized to transmit this message. This should be obvious to anyone with half a brain, unfortunately, the owners of large networks tend to subscribe to the 'Cover Your Ass' business philosophy, thus disclamers are required to make them feel warm and fuzzy.