The Loongson-3 uses the MIPS instruction set. It's about time the world started breaking free from the awful x86 architecture. I know there is some x86 emulation in the -3, but I'm really hoping that the primary architecture for now and the future will be MIPS.
And 10 watts is damned good for a 4-core chip, especially for a 65 nm process.
the single largest contributor to global warming is the burning of coal
and the single largest coal burning nation is china
But the global climate is being affected by the total CO2 in the atmosphere, not so much by what gets spewed out in any particular year. China came rather late to the industrial revolution, so its contribution to the CO2 burden is rather small. As I said, the cumulative anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere is still overwhelmingly the fault of the U.S.
The U.S. should start taking its responsibility seriously.
I thought someone would try to spin Bush's words. Here is what he actually said on August 9, 2008:
Georgia is a sovereign nation and its territorial integrity must be respected.
My paraphrase captured Bush's meaning perfectly. I did not take the above quote out of context, nor have I distorted it in any way.
The quote above is from an official transcript of Bush's actual words when the crisis began. The world sniggered of course; Bush's hypocrisy was breathtaking. So as is normal with him, many official "clarifications" and "interpretations" came out later. These don't change the fact that Bush said what he said.
China had our example to go by, and they refused to heed that lesson. Consequently, the onus is on them to fix their own problems, much as we have done.
Climate change is still the greatest global environmental threat, by far. And the cumulative mass of anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere, the major cause of global warming, is still overwhelmingly American. Why not do something about it?
I'm not saying that the US's total irresponsibility about what it's doing to the climate of the Earth absolves the Chinese. But Americans would look far less like hypocrites if they solved their own problems -- or at least made some sincere effort to start solving them -- before lecturing other countries so aggressively about theirs.
Indeed. The US would have far more influence in the world by simply not being so embarrassingly hypocritical. (One of many, many examples: Bush telling the Russians that they have no right to invade other countries. Gag. Cringe.)
For example, one can take a 6AM train from Hakata (Fukuoka) and be in Hiroshima at 7:05AM.
Very impressive. Many commuters in the U.S. take longer than that to reach their jobs every day. With trains that fast, the possibilities are mind boggling. Imagine Portland as a suburb of Seattle, or vice versa!
The US would be too afraid of terrorists attacking it to risk building it.
Don't fuck over the rest of the world and the rest of the world won't fuck you. This principle has apparently not been simple enough for American to understand.
Religion is a major part of the world, and there NEEDS to be an understanding of it taught at schools so that people understand what it's all about. Not as an "indoctrination", but as an "education". If the schools DON'T teach [comparative religion], you end up with people not being able to accurately question religious beliefs, or completely misunderstand things about the people around them (e.g. the view that it seems many "lesser educated" people in the US have about Muslims)
You see, educating kids about other religions so they can "[question] religious beliefs" is the LAST thing the fundamentalist creationists want.
However, I fail to comprehend why someone in Arizona should be paying into a fund to support flooding in Louisiana.
Because the Arizonan wants oil? The U.S. imports a lot of it from Mexico -- specifically, from the Cantarell supergiant oil field. Can you guess where that field is located? Right: the Gulf of Mexico.
First of all, have you heard of the Trail of Tears? The number of people forcibly moved was not in the millions, but it was easily in the tens of thousands.
Second, guess how George W. Bush got the land for building a stadium for his Texas Rangers baseball team. (Hint: the land was not voluntarily relinquished.)
Umm, newsflash, politicians in the US generally vote on more then a couple of things a term. Demanding that everybody be voted out of office for one or two bad votes is demanding a lot.
It's called accountability. A crook might be a crook just once in his life, but we're still throwing him in jail.
Any politico who voted for the Patriot Act deserves to be in jail, but I will settle for throwing him out of office. If that means dumping nearly every current incumbent, too bad.
Hint: anything can be mass manufactured, from papyrus to pyramids to shoes.
Not if the raw materials are limited. Check out what papyrus is made from, and compare the abundance of that material to wood fiber for paper. Repeat with vellum.
Paper was by far not an obvious invention. I am pretty sure you can't make it (without looking up the recipe), despite knowing in general what it is. The process is very unobvious. So no one should be surprised that Europeans were still scraping sheepskin for writing material 1500 years after China had paper.
Without paper, printed books would have stayed rare, and the Renaissance would never have happened. Europeans owe China a lot.
You mean, can't be answered.
Envy can't be answered, true. And as the saying goes, "against stupidity and ignorance, the gods themselves strive in vain".
Thanks for a fair and thoughtful reply. I don't have the time to do it justice, so I'll comment on just a few points.
So being able to read the same pictograms from a thousand years ago today just means the pictogram meaning hasn't changed much, not that the language hasn't changed.
Yes, one of the advantages of using ideograms rather than an alphabet is that their meanings are independent of pronunciation and even of language.
An interesting fact is that 3000-year-old Chinese poems still rhyme. Some don't, but most of them still do. And the poems still make perfect sense. This suggests very strongly that Chinese has not changed much over the millenia; it is still one language, one culture, and one civilization.
What is perhaps worth considering is why, when China discovered America hundreds of years before Europe, and gunpowder thousands of years earlier, was it the European cultures that took these discoveries and turned them into spaceflight, guns, and a world empire. China wasn't any less greedy or Imperial, or any more moral, so what was it?
This is a key question. Chinese scholars have been pondering it for over a century and have not come close to a satisfying answer. I am not a scholar, but that isn't going to stop me from offering an opinion.
China's four great inventions were separated in time by centuries. Whatever impact thay had on China was gradual; the rate of change was almost imperceptible. To someone of that time, his life did not seem much different from that of his father's, or his grandfather's, or his great grandfather's. There was never anything new under the sun, or so it seemed, so why bother to search? You would only be wasting your time.
In contrast, Europe benefited from a collossal flood of Chinese technology in the 14th, 15th, and 16th centuries, thanks to the Mongol invasions. The compass made possible the Age of Discovery; paper and the printing press began a time of plenty in books; and gunpowder eventually ended feudalism. To get some idea of how huge the flood of technology was from East to West, check out Joseph Needham's "Science and Civilization in China" -- all seven massive volumes of it. And here is what Francis Bacon, one of the first scientists, had to say:
For these three [compass, gunpowder, and print press] have changed the whole face and state of things throughout the world, insomuch that no empire, no sect, no star seems to have exerted greater power and influence in human affairs than these mechanical discoveries.-- Novum Organum (1620)
Change in Europe was like a hurricane, often destructive of course, but also bringing fresh air. A man living during the Renaissance could see some massive advances in his own lifetime, never mind his father's or grandfather's. There were indeed some new things under the sun, and many of them were clearly beneficial. So the incentive to look for more was irresistible, and Europe began overtaking China.
Darkman, you are a perfect example of those Westerners who are determined to ignore the contributions made by China to global civilization.
Paper in one form or another was around since 3500 BC. The concept was nothing new, only the materials, so the Chinese got the idea from the west.
Wrong. Have you any idea how paper is made? Any idea at all? If you compared the papermaking process to papyrus, for example, you would see that they were completely different. Hint: paper's huge advantage is that it can be mass manufacturered; it may well have been the first mass manufactured item in history. And I think even you would be hard pressed to deny that paper has had a profound impact on civilization.
Yes, those Olympics so riddled with fraud and disgraceful conditions, that they hardly deserve mention in the annals of sport?
The 2001 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City was much worse, a snake pit of corruption.
Westerners such as yourself are still reluctant to acknowlege their debt to China.
Remember the Olympic opening ceremonies in Beijing? The four great inventions shown there -- paper, printing press, gunpowder, compass -- have had an enormous impact on Europe. Take the printing press: nearly every historian, East or West, agrees that this invention was the key to lifting Europe out of the dark ages and igniting the Renaissance. Despite enormous quantities of evidence that China had the press almost a thousand years before Gutenberg, many Westerners continue to insist that he was the inventor. That is laughable -- and also revealing.
Greek literature has a continuous history of nearly three thousand years.
I dispute the "continuous" part. Modern Greeks can't read the Iliad untranslated. And the translation destroys most of the poetic aspects of the original, such as rhyme and meter. The Greeks don't really have a continous civilization.
Yes. For example, the influence of the Kalevala is pervasive in Finland. But how many people outside that country have even heard of the epic, much less read it? Finland is a separate civilization.
The Chinese culture hasn't changed fundamentally. For example, poems written during the Qin dynasty are still readable today, and they rhyme just as well now as they did then.
Can modern Italians read poets like Virgil or Horace in the original Latin? Not without extensive, specialized education. Whereas any modern Chinese with basic literacy can read and understand the Book of Songs, which contains poetry from periods even earlier than the Qin.
Slashdot Mirror
And 10 watts is damned good for a 4-core chip, especially for a 65 nm process.
We were talking about the Kyoto treaty, which the U.S. has not even ratified, much less bothered to implement.
and the single largest coal burning nation is china
But the global climate is being affected by the total CO2 in the atmosphere, not so much by what gets spewed out in any particular year. China came rather late to the industrial revolution, so its contribution to the CO2 burden is rather small. As I said, the cumulative anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere is still overwhelmingly the fault of the U.S.
The U.S. should start taking its responsibility seriously.
My paraphrase captured Bush's meaning perfectly. I did not take the above quote out of context, nor have I distorted it in any way.
The quote above is from an official transcript of Bush's actual words when the crisis began. The world sniggered of course; Bush's hypocrisy was breathtaking. So as is normal with him, many official "clarifications" and "interpretations" came out later. These don't change the fact that Bush said what he said.
At least the other countries are trying. The US isn't even bothering to start.
Can you define what you mean by "middle class"?
Climate change is still the greatest global environmental threat, by far. And the cumulative mass of anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere, the major cause of global warming, is still overwhelmingly American. Why not do something about it?
I'm not saying that the US's total irresponsibility about what it's doing to the climate of the Earth absolves the Chinese. But Americans would look far less like hypocrites if they solved their own problems -- or at least made some sincere effort to start solving them -- before lecturing other countries so aggressively about theirs.
Indeed. The US would have far more influence in the world by simply not being so embarrassingly hypocritical. (One of many, many examples: Bush telling the Russians that they have no right to invade other countries. Gag. Cringe.)
Very impressive. Many commuters in the U.S. take longer than that to reach their jobs every day. With trains that fast, the possibilities are mind boggling. Imagine Portland as a suburb of Seattle, or vice versa!
Don't fuck over the rest of the world and the rest of the world won't fuck you. This principle has apparently not been simple enough for American to understand.
That was exactly what the Soviets did: they spent hugely on their military and bankrupted their country.
You are living proof of George Santayana's advice: you have failed to learn from history and therefore are doomed to repeat it.
I would love to know the subsidy (federal, state, local) for the highways.
You see, educating kids about other religions so they can "[question] religious beliefs" is the LAST thing the fundamentalist creationists want.
So? Has the land been returned to the Cherokee, Choctaw, etc.? They are still suffering, and the whites are still benefiting.
Because the Arizonan wants oil? The U.S. imports a lot of it from Mexico -- specifically, from the Cantarell supergiant oil field. Can you guess where that field is located? Right: the Gulf of Mexico.
First of all, have you heard of the Trail of Tears? The number of people forcibly moved was not in the millions, but it was easily in the tens of thousands.
Second, guess how George W. Bush got the land for building a stadium for his Texas Rangers baseball team. (Hint: the land was not voluntarily relinquished.)
It's called accountability. A crook might be a crook just once in his life, but we're still throwing him in jail.
Any politico who voted for the Patriot Act deserves to be in jail, but I will settle for throwing him out of office. If that means dumping nearly every current incumbent, too bad.
Not if the raw materials are limited. Check out what papyrus is made from, and compare the abundance of that material to wood fiber for paper. Repeat with vellum.
Paper was by far not an obvious invention. I am pretty sure you can't make it (without looking up the recipe), despite knowing in general what it is. The process is very unobvious. So no one should be surprised that Europeans were still scraping sheepskin for writing material 1500 years after China had paper.
Without paper, printed books would have stayed rare, and the Renaissance would never have happened. Europeans owe China a lot.
You mean, can't be answered.
Envy can't be answered, true. And as the saying goes, "against stupidity and ignorance, the gods themselves strive in vain".
So being able to read the same pictograms from a thousand years ago today just means the pictogram meaning hasn't changed much, not that the language hasn't changed.
Yes, one of the advantages of using ideograms rather than an alphabet is that their meanings are independent of pronunciation and even of language.
An interesting fact is that 3000-year-old Chinese poems still rhyme. Some don't, but most of them still do. And the poems still make perfect sense. This suggests very strongly that Chinese has not changed much over the millenia; it is still one language, one culture, and one civilization.
What is perhaps worth considering is why, when China discovered America hundreds of years before Europe, and gunpowder thousands of years earlier, was it the European cultures that took these discoveries and turned them into spaceflight, guns, and a world empire. China wasn't any less greedy or Imperial, or any more moral, so what was it?
This is a key question. Chinese scholars have been pondering it for over a century and have not come close to a satisfying answer. I am not a scholar, but that isn't going to stop me from offering an opinion.
China's four great inventions were separated in time by centuries. Whatever impact thay had on China was gradual; the rate of change was almost imperceptible. To someone of that time, his life did not seem much different from that of his father's, or his grandfather's, or his great grandfather's. There was never anything new under the sun, or so it seemed, so why bother to search? You would only be wasting your time.
In contrast, Europe benefited from a collossal flood of Chinese technology in the 14th, 15th, and 16th centuries, thanks to the Mongol invasions. The compass made possible the Age of Discovery; paper and the printing press began a time of plenty in books; and gunpowder eventually ended feudalism. To get some idea of how huge the flood of technology was from East to West, check out Joseph Needham's "Science and Civilization in China" -- all seven massive volumes of it. And here is what Francis Bacon, one of the first scientists, had to say:
Change in Europe was like a hurricane, often destructive of course, but also bringing fresh air. A man living during the Renaissance could see some massive advances in his own lifetime, never mind his father's or grandfather's. There were indeed some new things under the sun, and many of them were clearly beneficial. So the incentive to look for more was irresistible, and Europe began overtaking China.
Oops, make that the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.
Paper in one form or another was around since 3500 BC. The concept was nothing new, only the materials, so the Chinese got the idea from the west.
Wrong. Have you any idea how paper is made? Any idea at all? If you compared the papermaking process to papyrus, for example, you would see that they were completely different. Hint: paper's huge advantage is that it can be mass manufacturered; it may well have been the first mass manufactured item in history. And I think even you would be hard pressed to deny that paper has had a profound impact on civilization.
Yes, those Olympics so riddled with fraud and disgraceful conditions, that they hardly deserve mention in the annals of sport?
The 2001 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City was much worse, a snake pit of corruption.
[Other loads of envy and ignorance: ignored]
Remember the Olympic opening ceremonies in Beijing? The four great inventions shown there -- paper, printing press, gunpowder, compass -- have had an enormous impact on Europe. Take the printing press: nearly every historian, East or West, agrees that this invention was the key to lifting Europe out of the dark ages and igniting the Renaissance. Despite enormous quantities of evidence that China had the press almost a thousand years before Gutenberg, many Westerners continue to insist that he was the inventor. That is laughable -- and also revealing.
I dispute the "continuous" part. Modern Greeks can't read the Iliad untranslated. And the translation destroys most of the poetic aspects of the original, such as rhyme and meter. The Greeks don't really have a continous civilization.
Yes. For example, the influence of the Kalevala is pervasive in Finland. But how many people outside that country have even heard of the epic, much less read it? Finland is a separate civilization.
Can modern Italians read poets like Virgil or Horace in the original Latin? Not without extensive, specialized education. Whereas any modern Chinese with basic literacy can read and understand the Book of Songs, which contains poetry from periods even earlier than the Qin.