Yes true, but when you demand evidence, and one of those guys cannot provide any, then it doesn't matter how loud they shout. It only makes the look like a fool, and then they will be dismissed as whackjobs (or trolls).
I still know people who don't believe Obama has a birth certificate, because he's actually Kenyan, and/or think he's a Muslim.
Has there been any turn on Fox after they had both those stories were running through their headlines when the evidence was clearly against them?
I also live in a small community where people frequently make up unsupported claims, often with ulterior motives, and get a large following of ignorant people to protest and shout down/up legislation without evidence.
Further, you don't receive chain emails from you family/friends/coworkers? I get them all the time telling me about the latest fatalities from aspartame and how glade products are fire hazards. Sometimes even mundane things like: Did you know?Ohio has no natural lakes! Just to see if I'm paying attention I guess.
I wish your comment was the truth but it isn't in my experience.
If you want to post things that can only be seen by a particular group of your contacts, you can do that. And then only those people will get it.
Hoah! That public/private button (next to post) is awesome! Did not see it and could not find it in help.
Its trivially simple
K, I'll admit to having a little interface retardation.
In light of further evidence, I revise my previous post, this service is 10times better than facebook status because I can post only to my friends or only to my family or only to my coworkers instead of censoring myself to not offend any of the three. Well it will be awesome, if they sign up.
My Facebook addicted aunts and friends who are excited to update from their bathrooms don't know I've got their statuses hidden.
I'm still their "friends" because we are still what I would consider "friends", we've got each other's contact info and life stats for the times we actually care what the other is doing.
However, in buzz they are going to see me automatically added to their followers and then opting out.
I know I'm late to the conversation but I didn't get buzz till today.
The...good?: like facebook but for google with more features in your posts and no spam from games (yet). Also it's new and as we've previously discussed, boredom can kill.
The bad:
- automatic friending.
- Beyond that it looks like people can choose to follow me without my consent. Of course I can block them later, but not till they've rooted through my posts I assume. Anyone else see some problems like this?
- Everything also seems to be public by default and I'm having trouble figuring out how to change these things and I'm worried Eric disabled them.
In short, my privacy fears came true and expectations for something new were not met.
Do the privacy concerns of broadcasting details of your life not bother you?
A little, but like I said in another post, my grandma and my boss are friended there and if there is anything I feel they can both see, I'm not worried about it screwing over future employment opportunities.
Of course if I ever wanted to disperse pics of me with a beer bong, I'm back to email where I can (easily) choose who can and cannot see it.
In my opinion, the result of democracy should be that everyone can do as they please as long as their actions do not hurt "little ones".
I always figured the result of democracy would be the majority making the rules for what everyone else can and can't do. "Tyranny of the majority" has always been a buzzword for the cautions of democracy.
Given the story we're replying to I think my hypotheses is working out better.
I think if they had maybe a bill of rights and a good "separation of powers" ensuring a clear judicial branch to enforce it. I might be biased from personal experience, but even thats not going so good here.
I don't think I'll ever see myself getting caught up in social media networks - especially with Google's recent views on privacy.
Well if you use social networks like me, you have your boss, your parents and your grandma all friended: so the "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place," is already pre-enforced for you.
I will be happily handing google pictures of myself well-dressed along with flattery of my great family and coworkers.
Where is this backlash that CNET is talking about? I've never heard any express any worries about Google having too much information about them outside of Slashdot.
I do hear about this, but my friends are the type to read/..
You may be right about the lack of public concern; I'm not sure how we could get a survey of public opinion on this.
most people are happily handing over the every detail of their lives to Facebook
Many don't understand what they are doing; I had some non-tech-savy friends review my web-development-homework awhile back they were freaked out that I could log their IP addresses, swipe their clipboards and read their referrers. Some were ready to go to the google-opt-out-village after I explained that I wasn't hacking their computer and that's just what they send to every internet host.
The reason/.ers are freaked out is because we know about data mining and see the implications that are there. A little education about how all of their anonymous Google searches can be traced back to them and people _would_ backlash.
I already find the regular changes to their interface and lack of actual content annoying.
This is exactly what I hate about facebook, and is exactly what I hated about myspace before my friends and I made the leap to facebook to escape all that crap into facebook's nice unfeatured interface where you could find real information about people. Most of my friends are already on gmail, and I for one will be delighted to try out keeping in contact using a new interface without all the "features" that facebook has been adding to please the teenyboppers.
I don't need to know what animals in what pretend farm my acquaintances from highschool just "bought" in some pathetic online farming game. That is not the same as staying in touch. It has nothing to do with their real lives.
I hide farmville, astrograph, mobwars and what not, and hide statuses of most friends I don't hang out with. If you want to contact them in the future, you can still send them messages and check their profile info. Facebook has been trying (and doing rather well IMHO) to let you opt out of seeing all that crap your friends want to do.
I don't use my Gmail account much. If this takes off I won't use it at all
Chillax, you won't have to use buzz to use gmail. Its just a feature you can activate. Don't want it, don't activate it.
Does it really matter whom you upload your private data to? Once it is out of your hands, it does not matter if it is with google, facebook, yahoo or msn
Well, since I have friends who won't leave certain networks, now my data will be with all of them!
What advantages do the social networking sites have over simple email.
My reason is the ability to have 150 "friends" that I can check up on and message anytime, while blocking the status updates (chain emails) of 140 of them until I'm interested. Also people who tend to be quiet or don't think you will be concerned about a relationship/job change or move, will post that information on their status page when they would otherwise not notify you; you can quickly flip to their status without sorting through the "spam-from-friends" folder in your email.
I also feel rather pretentious emailing the 50 or so people who will at some time be concerned about a move or some such event, but not about updating my Facebook info where they can check it when they care.
But overall, you either like the social networking differences or you don't. It looks like email works better for you, but for me, social networking is best and I am delighted that I might be able to link that up with my gmail account.
And I'm wishing I started a family facebook/email seperate from my friend facebook/email, because I don't want my grandma
to know about the boozing festival we had last week end for our childhood friend's birthday
or about the booze fest we had at work to celebrate the success of our last delivery.
A year ago some of my friends got put on my family's email news list, and often that bothers them or embarrasses me. I would totally prefer to be able to wall people off from stuff outside their group, giving that friends, family, work and other acquaintances already meet at the same gmail account.
men dump me right before Valentines day and then try to fix thing afterward just to avoid the day all together
Perfect! I've been browsing these suggestions all day, getting more and more worried about what I'll have to pull off to impress her, until I came across this one, and realized what I have to do!
all she really wants (and I know because she made of a point of telling me repeatedly, including emails) is a heart-shaped box of candy from CVS. OK then...
SHE'S LYING!!! Every time a girl has told me "All I want for $day is $gift" and I gave her exactly that, she reacts with "All you got me for $day was $gift?!?!?!"
Even the saved emails chains won't help in your defense; the prosecution will counter you with something like "You should've known..."
Well there is only one who was celebrated on the 14th, and unfortunately from wikipedia:
Of the Saint Valentine whose feast is on February 14, nothing is known except his name and that he was buried at the Via Flaminia north of Rome on February 14.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes true, but when you demand evidence, and one of those guys cannot provide any, then it doesn't matter how loud they shout. It only makes the look like a fool, and then they will be dismissed as whackjobs (or trolls).
I still know people who don't believe Obama has a birth certificate, because he's actually Kenyan, and/or think he's a Muslim.
Has there been any turn on Fox after they had both those stories were running through their headlines when the evidence was clearly against them?
I also live in a small community where people frequently make up unsupported claims, often with ulterior motives, and get a large following of ignorant people to protest and shout down/up legislation without evidence.
Further, you don't receive chain emails from you family/friends/coworkers? I get them all the time telling me about the latest fatalities from aspartame and how glade products are fire hazards. Sometimes even mundane things like: Did you know?Ohio has no natural lakes! Just to see if I'm paying attention I guess.
I wish your comment was the truth but it isn't in my experience.
If you want to post things that can only be seen by a particular group of your contacts, you can do that. And then only those people will get it.
Hoah! That public/private button (next to post) is awesome! Did not see it and could not find it in help.
Its trivially simple
K, I'll admit to having a little interface retardation.
In light of further evidence, I revise my previous post, this service is 10times better than facebook status because I can post only to my friends or only to my family or only to my coworkers instead of censoring myself to not offend any of the three. Well it will be awesome, if they sign up.
I did notice, and I hate it!
My Facebook addicted aunts and friends who are excited to update from their bathrooms don't know I've got their statuses hidden.
I'm still their "friends" because we are still what I would consider "friends", we've got each other's contact info and life stats for the times we actually care what the other is doing.
However, in buzz they are going to see me automatically added to their followers and then opting out.
We'll see how that goes.
I know I'm late to the conversation but I didn't get buzz till today.
The...good?: like facebook but for google with more features in your posts and no spam from games (yet). Also it's new and as we've previously discussed, boredom can kill.
The bad:
- automatic friending.
- Beyond that it looks like people can choose to follow me without my consent. Of course I can block them later, but not till they've rooted through my posts I assume. Anyone else see some problems like this?
- Everything also seems to be public by default and I'm having trouble figuring out how to change these things and I'm worried Eric disabled them.
In short, my privacy fears came true and expectations for something new were not met.
How about getting a real social life, and leaving this to the social nerds?
We're talking about buzz here, not /.
Need to say something to a bunch of people? Write a bloody mail!
...um...is that a mail?
"Hi guys! I'm on the toilet!"
See if we were on buzz, I could just "stop following" you right there, but we are on ./ which does not give me the privilege.
Don't like my reply? "Stop following" me! Oh wait, can't do that here, maybe if we were talking on Buzz.
BTW facebook has the "ignore" and "hide" options and unfriend if they pm you too much, I believe twitter is also "stop following"
Do the privacy concerns of broadcasting details of your life not bother you?
A little, but like I said in another post, my grandma and my boss are friended there and if there is anything I feel they can both see, I'm not worried about it screwing over future employment opportunities.
Of course if I ever wanted to disperse pics of me with a beer bong, I'm back to email where I can (easily) choose who can and cannot see it.
They might even arrest one or 2 people.
Or maybe they'll censor sites where the computer literate can gather and talk about how oppressive Australian censorship is.
In my opinion, the result of democracy should be that everyone can do as they please as long as their actions do not hurt "little ones".
I always figured the result of democracy would be the majority making the rules for what everyone else can and can't do. "Tyranny of the majority" has always been a buzzword for the cautions of democracy.
Given the story we're replying to I think my hypotheses is working out better.
I think if they had maybe a bill of rights and a good "separation of powers" ensuring a clear judicial branch to enforce it. I might be biased from personal experience, but even thats not going so good here.
You've been chosen as the next target of Anonymous. Start running, robot.
Yeah, they'll reply to comments. Oooh, Scary!
Officially Australian is NOT and American state
Not for long, we here in the US like to free countries from oppressive regimes especially if they get in the way of our industries.
Our game and film industries seem to be having some trouble over there, so PREPARE FOR FREEDOM AUSTRALIANS!
Senator Joyce claimed that publications featuring small-breasted women were encouraging paedophilia
That slippery slope could go both ways. I mean, don't those monster fatties encourage bestiality?
I don't think I'll ever see myself getting caught up in social media networks - especially with Google's recent views on privacy.
Well if you use social networks like me, you have your boss, your parents and your grandma all friended: so the "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place," is already pre-enforced for you.
I will be happily handing google pictures of myself well-dressed along with flattery of my great family and coworkers.
Where is this backlash that CNET is talking about? I've never heard any express any worries about Google having too much information about them outside of Slashdot.
I do hear about this, but my friends are the type to read /..
There is a chain email going around my family (who aren't ./ types) about the google/nsa partnership. That issue seems to be on many news organizations minds as well: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS354US354&q=google+nsa&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
You may be right about the lack of public concern; I'm not sure how we could get a survey of public opinion on this.
most people are happily handing over the every detail of their lives to Facebook
Many don't understand what they are doing; I had some non-tech-savy friends review my web-development-homework awhile back they were freaked out that I could log their IP addresses, swipe their clipboards and read their referrers. Some were ready to go to the google-opt-out-village after I explained that I wasn't hacking their computer and that's just what they send to every internet host.
The reason /.ers are freaked out is because we know about data mining and see the implications that are there. A little education about how all of their anonymous Google searches can be traced back to them and people _would_ backlash.
I already find the regular changes to their interface and lack of actual content annoying.
This is exactly what I hate about facebook, and is exactly what I hated about myspace before my friends and I made the leap to facebook to escape all that crap into facebook's nice unfeatured interface where you could find real information about people. Most of my friends are already on gmail, and I for one will be delighted to try out keeping in contact using a new interface without all the "features" that facebook has been adding to please the teenyboppers.
I don't need to know what animals in what pretend farm my acquaintances from highschool just "bought" in some pathetic online farming game. That is not the same as staying in touch. It has nothing to do with their real lives.
I hide farmville, astrograph, mobwars and what not, and hide statuses of most friends I don't hang out with. If you want to contact them in the future, you can still send them messages and check their profile info. Facebook has been trying (and doing rather well IMHO) to let you opt out of seeing all that crap your friends want to do.
I don't use my Gmail account much. If this takes off I won't use it at all
Chillax, you won't have to use buzz to use gmail. Its just a feature you can activate. Don't want it, don't activate it.
what Google really needs to attract those people is becoming...a good tool for productive people...I would advise starting with games
I'm not sure I understand where you are going; could you clear that up a little?
Does it really matter whom you upload your private data to? Once it is out of your hands, it does not matter if it is with google, facebook, yahoo or msn
Well, since I have friends who won't leave certain networks, now my data will be with all of them!
well if they have farmville then count me out
Presumably there will be an opt out?
There already is:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google_opt_out_feature_lets_users
What advantages do the social networking sites have over simple email.
My reason is the ability to have 150 "friends" that I can check up on and message anytime, while blocking the status updates (chain emails) of 140 of them until I'm interested. Also people who tend to be quiet or don't think you will be concerned about a relationship/job change or move, will post that information on their status page when they would otherwise not notify you; you can quickly flip to their status without sorting through the "spam-from-friends" folder in your email.
I also feel rather pretentious emailing the 50 or so people who will at some time be concerned about a move or some such event, but not about updating my Facebook info where they can check it when they care.
But overall, you either like the social networking differences or you don't. It looks like email works better for you, but for me, social networking is best and I am delighted that I might be able to link that up with my gmail account.
but my email for cheating swinging gay porn is at yahoo, so no problem there.
We all have pro-email and personal email
And I'm wishing I started a family facebook/email seperate from my friend facebook/email, because I don't want my grandma
to know about the boozing festival we had last week end for our childhood friend's birthday
or about the booze fest we had at work to celebrate the success of our last delivery.
A year ago some of my friends got put on my family's email news list, and often that bothers them or embarrasses me. I would totally prefer to be able to wall people off from stuff outside their group, giving that friends, family, work and other acquaintances already meet at the same gmail account.
men dump me right before Valentines day and then try to fix thing afterward just to avoid the day all together
Perfect! I've been browsing these suggestions all day, getting more and more worried about what I'll have to pull off to impress her, until I came across this one, and realized what I have to do!
all she really wants (and I know because she made of a point of telling me repeatedly, including emails) is a heart-shaped box of candy from CVS. OK then...
SHE'S LYING!!! Every time a girl has told me "All I want for $day is $gift" and I gave her exactly that, she reacts with "All you got me for $day was $gift?!?!?!"
Even the saved emails chains won't help in your defense; the prosecution will counter you with something like "You should've known..."
FYI.
Pick a St. Valentine, any St. Valentine.
There were at least three.
Well there is only one who was celebrated on the 14th, and unfortunately from wikipedia:
Of the Saint Valentine whose feast is on February 14, nothing is known except his name and that he was buried at the Via Flaminia north of Rome on February 14.
"Surprise, no Valentine's Day present!"
And you can you use the same surprise over and over since you'll have a fresh relationship next year; brilliant!