I think I will start charging publishers for the CO2 I produce complaining about thier bullshit. That CO2 is being used in the production of trees which in turn produce the paper the publishers use to print their books. So far, they have used this resource I provide them for free. Gone are the days when they can use my air and not pay a residual for the privilege.
Of course, it's all a bunch of hot air anyway... Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
In a general sense, this is correct. The IP addresses will be registered by a provider and appear to be from one location - AOL in Virginia.
However, this information is available without any type of scanning at all. IP registration databases already contain this information - "whois -h whois.arin.net ". The scan includes an ICMP echo request to see if the IP is up, and a traceroute to determine locational information.
By tracking the routers that packets flow through to reach your machine, they can put together a pretty good idea of where you're at, even though your IP is registered in VA. Router hostnames for big providers usually are indicative of thier location, i.e.
It is interesting to note that with the "open" sourcing of any of the
stolen source code, there is the potential for the exposure of a
multitude of new backdoors/vulnerabilities into MS apps and a
proliferation of new exploits in the coming months. While I dread
the initial flurry of activity, it will be a great benefit to get
these backdoors/vulnerabilities closed and patched once and for all.
Sean
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
I work just down the street. I plan to be there though I think I'll drag the suit downtown on a hanger. If anyone want's to meet before hand, let me know...
srbrown@nyx.net Sean Brown Linux Evangelist "I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
I would echo this perspective and add that I believe the two stories essentially reflect two different modes of storytelling about our life/cultural experience. Star Wars has long been tied to the myth making and storytelling of old. The influence of Joseph Campbell on Lucas' work has not been overlooked. The Star Wars epic roughly translates to Campbell's Hero's Journey told with a techno-mystical quality.
Mythological epics tell us about our values, ideals, beliefs and norms. They reflect the cutural values of society. This is the myth making of Star Wars. Good vs. Evil, the triumph of the hero, unseen forces known to few but acknowledged and respected by many.
Star Trek, on the other hand, translates those values into action and a plan/vision for the future. The end of poverty, the uninty of nations and worlds, the beauty of discovery. Star Trek doesn't really tell us what our values are but assumes a common thread of understanding. We all want an end to war and poverty. We all want to discover new life and learn about other places and things. The Prime Directive is a prime example of an acknowledgement of the intrinsic value of things different from "us." Of not wanting to harm, that which we want to understand.
The values are learned through myth and storytelling, i.e. Star Wars. The vision to put those values into action is exemplified in Star Trek.
However, I could be wrong. They could be just a couple cool movies made in Hollywood.
Sean Brown Linux Evangelist srbrown@nyx.nospam.net
Sean Brown Linux Evangelist "I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
I've heard Slashdot called a form of journalism, which seems a bit of a stretch apart from its homegrown essays. But I'm not willing to say it isn't journalism, either.
Again, the AP is relevant here as well -- most of the news in the local paper, especially the 'front page' is pulled from the AP, and the local reporters do little. Perhaps in larger cities this isn't true, but in Smalltown, USA, reporters don't do a lot of reporting.
My Comments: This is a valid point. I don't think journalism can be defined by the production of content. While the production of content (writing) constitutes one mode of journalism, the reproduction of content (as in the wire services) is another. The Utne Reader is a good example of reproducing content from numerous sources and making it available in one forum./. (and possible other weblogs) is doing the same thing using a the Internet as its medium.
I would argue that journalism is better defined by the content itself, i.e. current events, news, human interest, etc., rather than who produced it.
However, it would be nice to see more 'original content' on Slashdot though, if only to avoid giving Jon Katz a monopoly.
The possibilities are endless. With the/. addiction level running quite high, I can imagine any number of people willing to produce original content. "Watch out Jon. Your monopoly may not hold out for long;-)"
Sean Brown Sean Brown Linux Evangelist "I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
Agreed...by restricting the search to hostnames of www or ftp or news, they have eliminated from consideration all workstations which are also, directly connected to the Internet. As a survey of Web, FTP and News Server OS's, the results may be a little more representative.
However, not including.com,.org and.net (not to mention other top level domains) in the survey could also skew the results due to the differing roles the servers may play in different organizations.
Sean Sean Brown Linux Evangelist "I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
While a considered expert in the field of absurdus speculaitus, Doc Technical again asserts himself/herself as the preemminent source of supreme technical wisdom and knowledge by bringing to the fore this seminal study on the low level functioning of our favorite troubleshooting utility...PING. Without this great work, I feel I am truly missing the big picture. Thank you, Doc Technical, for again showing us how little we really know.
Slashdot Mirror
I think I will start charging publishers for the CO2 I produce complaining about thier bullshit. That CO2 is being used in the production of trees which in turn produce the paper the publishers use to print their books. So far, they have used this resource I provide them for free. Gone are the days when they can use my air and not pay a residual for the privilege.
Of course, it's all a bunch of hot air anyway...
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
In a general sense, this is correct. The IP addresses will be registered by a provider and appear to be from one location - AOL in Virginia.
However, this information is available without any type of scanning at all. IP registration databases already contain this information - "whois -h whois.arin.net ". The scan includes an ICMP echo request to see if the IP is up, and a traceroute to determine locational information.
By tracking the routers that packets flow through to reach your machine, they can put together a pretty good idea of where you're at, even though your IP is registered in VA. Router hostnames for big providers usually are indicative of thier location, i.e.
146.188.176.254 124.ATM2-0.XR2.BOS1.ALTER.NET
152.63.20.182 190.at-2-1-0.TR2.NYC8.ALTER.NET
152.63.2.241 124.at-6-0-0.TR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET
Look like the packet went through Boston to New York to DC.
It doesn't always work but gets you pretty close.
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
It is interesting to note that with the "open" sourcing of any of the
stolen source code, there is the potential for the exposure of a
multitude of new backdoors/vulnerabilities into MS apps and a
proliferation of new exploits in the coming months. While I dread
the initial flurry of activity, it will be a great benefit to get
these backdoors/vulnerabilities closed and patched once and for all.
Sean
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
I work just down the street. I plan to be there though I think I'll drag the suit downtown on a hanger. If anyone want's to meet before hand, let me know...
srbrown@nyx.net
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
Mythological epics tell us about our values, ideals, beliefs and norms. They reflect the cutural values of society. This is the myth making of Star Wars. Good vs. Evil, the triumph of the hero, unseen forces known to few but acknowledged and respected by many.
Star Trek, on the other hand, translates those values into action and a plan/vision for the future. The end of poverty, the uninty of nations and worlds, the beauty of discovery. Star Trek doesn't really tell us what our values are but assumes a common thread of understanding. We all want an end to war and poverty. We all want to discover new life and learn about other places and things. The Prime Directive is a prime example of an acknowledgement of the intrinsic value of things different from "us." Of not wanting to harm, that which we want to understand.
The values are learned through myth and storytelling, i.e. Star Wars. The vision to put those values into action is exemplified in Star Trek.
However, I could be wrong. They could be just a couple cool movies made in Hollywood.
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
srbrown@nyx.nospam.net
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
I've heard Slashdot called a form of journalism, which seems a bit of a stretch apart from its homegrown essays. But I'm not willing to say it isn't journalism, either.
/. (and possible other weblogs) is doing the same thing using a the Internet as its medium.
/. addiction level running quite high, I can imagine any number of people willing to produce original content. "Watch out Jon. Your monopoly may not hold out for long ;-)"
Again, the AP is relevant here as well -- most of the news in the local paper, especially the 'front page' is pulled from the AP, and the local reporters do little. Perhaps in larger cities this isn't true, but in Smalltown, USA, reporters don't do a lot of reporting.
My Comments:
This is a valid point. I don't think journalism can be defined by the production of content. While the production of content (writing) constitutes one mode of journalism, the reproduction of content (as in the wire services) is another. The Utne Reader is a good example of reproducing content from numerous sources and making it available in one forum.
I would argue that journalism is better defined by the content itself, i.e. current events, news, human interest, etc., rather than who produced it.
However, it would be nice to see more 'original content' on Slashdot though, if only to avoid giving Jon Katz a monopoly.
The possibilities are endless. With the
Sean Brown
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
Agreed...by restricting the search to hostnames of www or ftp or news, they have eliminated from consideration all workstations which are also, directly connected to the Internet. As a survey of Web, FTP and News Server OS's, the results may be a little more representative.
.com, .org and .net (not to mention other top level domains) in the survey could also skew the results due to the differing roles the servers may play in different organizations.
However, not including
Sean
Sean Brown
Linux Evangelist
"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." - Bob D.
While a considered expert in the field of absurdus speculaitus, Doc Technical again asserts himself/herself as the preemminent source of supreme technical wisdom and knowledge by bringing to the fore this seminal study on the low level functioning of our favorite troubleshooting utility...PING. Without this great work, I feel I am truly missing the big picture. Thank you, Doc Technical, for again showing us how little we really know.