You know I think if very interesting that no one has brought any religious aspects into this. I guess I will since no one else has attempted it. First of all, I don't want anyone thinking that I am going to bend any truth or that I sacrifice truth for religion. I am a biochemist and science is very important to me. I am also a Christian and feel that these views should be touched on in this matter, especially pertaining to the vegan beliefs.
I. First I feel I should bring up that I have never met an intelectually honest Christian Vegan. I don't know that there are any out there. I believe this to be caused by the fact that the Christian beliefs put humans ABOVE animals in every aspect. God made us special compared to his other creations. He gave us a soul and cared for us above all others. The first thing you're probably going to say to this is that if God put us in charge of animals, we should take care of them. This is of course true, but he values us over them and for this reason it is better that animals die than people. It is better to raise an animal for organs and kill it to save a human than to let that human die.
II. God is not a Vegan. Not only does He intend us to eat animals, but in the Old Testament times, He required that animals be sacrificed to Him as gifts and symbols of our recognition of His Ultimate authority as well as signs of His future sacrifice of His son for our sins.
III. Does this give us the right to torture animals for no or little gain? No, it is still our responsibility to watch over God's creation. Does this mean we should put animals above ourselves or even on our level? No, we were made special by God in His image (understand this is more a spiritual image than physical) and were given souls like no other being ever.
IV. Finally I'll conclude. As a Christian and a scientist, I feel that growing organs for humans in animals has basically no down-side that compares to the benifit of saving a human life. The methods for growing these organs should be without torture to the animals, however, for we are their caretakers. This is probably one of the greatest medical oppertunities to come along since the vaccine.
I hope you all understand what I have said. If I have somehow offended someone, please understand that it was entirely unintentional. These are my true beliefs and what I have found to be most true in my heart and through the science I know and live. Thank you. GiGabyte02
The truth is: None of this really matters. First of all, there is NO way to catalogue the complete molecular structure of anything (much less a human). This is due to the fact that the position of the electrons in the electron cloud CANNOT be measured or predicted and they never will be. If you could code a human, you could never recompile him/her on the other end for the same reason. Also, it appears everyone has the dillusion that we could somehow line up a stream of tachyons and send this imposible code. This is of course imposible and if it were, we could cause SERIOUS problems by simply setting up a sensor and turn off the stream when they are detected. Because they are detected before they are fired according to all of you. You could turn off the machine as soon as they are detected, never fire them at all, and make one heck of an unpleasant paradox to ponder. Give up on breaking the speed of light. It is a limit we cannot change or meet and we should just learn to live with that fact.
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You know I think if very interesting that no one has brought any religious aspects into this. I guess I will since no one else has attempted it. First of all, I don't want anyone thinking that I am going to bend any truth or that I sacrifice truth for religion. I am a biochemist and science is very important to me. I am also a Christian and feel that these views should be touched on in this matter, especially pertaining to the vegan beliefs.
I. First I feel I should bring up that I have never met an intelectually honest Christian Vegan. I don't know that there are any out there. I believe this to be caused by the fact that the Christian beliefs put humans ABOVE animals in every aspect. God made us special compared to his other creations. He gave us a soul and cared for us above all others. The first thing you're probably going to say to this is that if God put us in charge of animals, we should take care of them. This is of course true, but he values us over them and for this reason it is better that animals die than people. It is better to raise an animal for organs and kill it to save a human than to let that human die.
II. God is not a Vegan.
Not only does He intend us to eat animals, but in the Old Testament times, He required that animals be sacrificed to Him as gifts and symbols of our recognition of His Ultimate authority as well as signs of His future sacrifice of His son for our sins.
III. Does this give us the right to torture animals for no or little gain? No, it is still our responsibility to watch over God's creation.
Does this mean we should put animals above ourselves or even on our level? No, we were made special by God in His image (understand this is more a spiritual image than physical) and were given souls like no other being ever.
IV. Finally I'll conclude.
As a Christian and a scientist, I feel that growing organs for humans in animals has basically no down-side that compares to the benifit of saving a human life. The methods for growing these organs should be without torture to the animals, however, for we are their caretakers. This is probably one of the greatest medical oppertunities to come along since the vaccine.
I hope you all understand what I have said. If I have somehow offended someone, please understand that it was entirely unintentional. These are my true beliefs and what I have found to be most true in my heart and through the science I know and live.
Thank you.
GiGabyte02
The truth is: None of this really matters. First of all, there is NO way to catalogue the complete molecular structure of anything (much less a human). This is due to the fact that the position of the electrons in the electron cloud CANNOT be measured or predicted and they never will be. If you could code a human, you could never recompile him/her on the other end for the same reason. Also, it appears everyone has the dillusion that we could somehow line up a stream of tachyons and send this imposible code. This is of course imposible and if it were, we could cause SERIOUS problems by simply setting up a sensor and turn off the stream when they are detected. Because they are detected before they are fired according to all of you. You could turn off the machine as soon as they are detected, never fire them at all, and make one heck of an unpleasant paradox to ponder. Give up on breaking the speed of light. It is a limit we cannot change or meet and we should just learn to live with that fact.