Web server on a 328p? I'm betting it can't do any server-side scripting at all...?
Sure you can. An Arduino WizNet adapter has the whole TCP/IP stack on it, so all you need on the 328p is the TCP client code. 32K is more space than you might think when it's all your code.
I agree that the sewage treatment plants need to be upgraded and a closed loop via distilation or reverse osmosis would be expensive but might be the best way to make sure 100% of the bad stuff doesn't make it out.
Maybe you can try going to poor towns in West Virginia and tell them that they have to spend millions of dollars on new sewage treatment plants because of toothpaste and skin soap.
Frankly, I think it is weird that they're even throwing it out.
So they decided to plead guilty to 21 misdemeanor criminal charges and pay a $400,000 fine instead of finding a use for it. If there was a use for it they could have avoided all of that.
Your second point seems a tad weak as before being stuck on the bead, said pollutants are floating freely in the water the organisms large and small breath.
Who says they are "floating freely in the water"? These beads will soak up oils that normally float on top of the water, and carry it down into the water to life that otherwise does not come in contact with those oils.
However, I am questioning the quality of your water treatment process if this is actually a problem.
Have you ever heard of "Ocean Spray"? They grow lots and lots of cranberries. The crush the cranberries to make juice. They flush the dead cranberry skins down the drain. The local sewage treatment plant has terrible issues because the massive amount of cranberry residue screws with the chemical processes in the sewage treatment plant so that none of the sewage gets treated properly.
The moral of the story is that sewage treatment plants are designed to handle the standard sewage that we all dump down the drain and they are not prepared to handle stuff that is not expected.
Maybe YOU are willing to put up with a big increase in your local taxes to pay for the extra equipment needed?
because there are people who cannot stand the concept of paying a tiny fraction more
really? have you priced makeup products in the drugstore? the prices are outrageous. Anyone who is paying $15 for a tiny bottle of soap will also pay $16 or $17 without batting an eyelash
Well again, yes it will sort out if you give it enough time. The question is how long does it take?
again is there some special reason why we need to spend billions and billions to upgrade our sewage treatment plants to accomodate the idiots out there who are too lazy or stupid to use a proper washcloth to wash their faces?
A medical centrifuge accelerates this process dramatically....
really? how long will it take you to filter sewage with a medical centrifuge?
And if not, then we need to look at other means of processing the water. Possibly some sort of industrial centrifuge would be a good idea?
Why why why does every single municipal sewage treatment plant on the entire planet need a massive upgrade because there are people out there who cannot stand the concept of having dead skin cells on their faces?
if you are too broke to buy a new car and too broke to pay a professional mechanic then you will most certainly learn a lot about auto repair because you don't really have any other choice.
The video game development industry is so super-saturated with a glut of often-unqualified programmers, their wages, benefits and working conditions are usually worse than those for burger flippers.
It's also filled with idiots like Curt Schilling who think it's perfectly okay to take money from the government while simultaneously lambasting those who take money from the government, who think it's okay to run a company completely out of money without giving any warning to shareholders, employees, etc.
Maybe it's better now, but not that long ago I recall many an update announcement for Java where the update specifically stated as not being available on Apple.
java integrates with linux components such as d-bus that are not present on OSX. If they fix a bug in the d-bus interface, you're not going to see an equivalent update for OSX.
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Web server on a 328p? I'm betting it can't do any server-side scripting at all...?
Sure you can. An Arduino WizNet adapter has the whole TCP/IP stack on it, so all you need on the 328p is the TCP client code. 32K is more space than you might think when it's all your code.
I agree that the sewage
treatment plants need to be upgraded and a closed loop via distilation or reverse osmosis would be expensive but might be the best
way to make sure 100% of the bad stuff doesn't make it out.
Maybe you can try going to poor towns in West Virginia and tell them that they have to spend millions of dollars on new sewage treatment plants because of toothpaste and skin soap.
sometimes I wonder how we managed to crawl out of the mud and become humans without having an effective exfoliant
I don't care
Yeah that's why you have taken the time to write so many posts
Yeah, I can go googling around and try to find out....but maybe I got other things to google tonight.)
while you are busy "googling" you might try reading the ingredients list on your hand lotion
And guess what, the microbeads have a lower density than water. So they should be filterable by that method.
guess what, the beads don't get a chance to settle to the bottom.
"should", what a lovely word. As a computer person you should know full well that it is not the same word as "shall"
Frankly, I think it is weird that they're even throwing it out.
So they decided to plead guilty to 21 misdemeanor criminal charges and pay a $400,000 fine instead of finding a use for it. If there was a use for it they could have avoided all of that.
because the average american takes that long to decide on a new brand of toothpaste
I don't see the actual harm that microbeads are supposed to cause.
most ignorant people aren't stupid enough to brag about it
My understanding of the process is
wrong
I don't know how much energy that would gobble.
You're an idiot. ;)
Microbead manufacturers will reform and will start manufacturing non-toxic naturally dis-integrable microbead.
Yeah just like how the oil companies reformed and started using safer methods to transport oil after they learned their lessons from massive spills.
oh wait, they didn't
Your second point seems a tad weak as before being stuck on the bead, said pollutants are floating freely in the water the organisms large and small breath.
Who says they are "floating freely in the water"? These beads will soak up oils that normally float on top of the water, and carry it down into the water to life that otherwise does not come in contact with those oils.
However, I am questioning the quality of your water treatment process if this is actually a problem.
Have you ever heard of "Ocean Spray"? They grow lots and lots of cranberries. The crush the cranberries to make juice. They flush the dead cranberry skins down the drain. The local sewage treatment plant has terrible issues because the massive amount of cranberry residue screws with the chemical processes in the sewage treatment plant so that none of the sewage gets treated properly.
The moral of the story is that sewage treatment plants are designed to handle the standard sewage that we all dump down the drain and they are not prepared to handle stuff that is not expected.
Maybe YOU are willing to put up with a big increase in your local taxes to pay for the extra equipment needed?
because there are people who cannot stand the concept of paying a tiny fraction more
really? have you priced makeup products in the drugstore? the prices are outrageous. Anyone who is paying $15 for a tiny bottle of soap will also pay $16 or $17 without batting an eyelash
So if you're not filtering out microbeads one can assume you're also not filtering out oils...
well if you bothered to learn how sewage treatment plants remove oils from water, you would see that the process does not involve a filter.
Well again, yes it will sort out if you give it enough time. The question is how long does it take?
again is there some special reason why we need to spend billions and billions to upgrade our sewage treatment plants to accomodate the idiots out there who are too lazy or stupid to use a proper washcloth to wash their faces?
A medical centrifuge accelerates this process dramatically....
really? how long will it take you to filter sewage with a medical centrifuge?
And if not, then we need to look at other means of processing the water. Possibly some sort of industrial centrifuge would be a good idea?
Why why why does every single municipal sewage treatment plant on the entire planet need a massive upgrade because there are people out there who cannot stand the concept of having dead skin cells on their faces?
if you are too broke to buy a new car and too broke to pay a professional mechanic then you will most certainly learn a lot about auto repair because you don't really have any other choice.
Probably usually the other way around. People who are disposed towards programming will also tend towards more computer gaming.
Probably not, it was my exposure to programming video games where I witnessed the miserable lonely lives of video gamers.
The video game development industry is so super-saturated with a glut of often-unqualified programmers, their wages, benefits and working conditions are usually worse than those for burger flippers.
It's also filled with idiots like Curt Schilling who think it's perfectly okay to take money from the government while simultaneously lambasting those who take money from the government, who think it's okay to run a company completely out of money without giving any warning to shareholders, employees, etc.
Taught me that it's possible to write interesting non-trivial user interfaces on machines as primitive as Apple II
Until Java tries to sue you, like they did Android.
Yeah I'll remember that, the next time I sit down to write my own JVM
Maybe it's better now, but not that long ago I recall many an update announcement for Java where the update specifically stated as not being available on Apple.
java integrates with linux components such as d-bus that are not present on OSX. If they fix a bug in the d-bus interface, you're not going to see an equivalent update for OSX.
You forgot: . . . and not check the licensing conditions of all those 3rd party packages.
so java is the only language which has this problem?