turning on TV and doing something else is not really watching TV to me.
if you want to reduce your "watching" time just do like me : put the TV set in another room and buyb no tuner card or by one not usable under linux (like me)
yes french revolution changed everything (metric, calendar) system, but that was mainly to have something totally different from the monarchal system metric system design was based upon the rim of earth or something like that and it was decimal because people count in decimal... and it's easier to have only one counting system. even britts changed their complicated monetary system to simplification some tenth years ago (sheelings(?) went out) on the other side, the calendar changement did not last because it was not pratical. as for weight and volumes, it integrates very nicelly with the length system : you only have one logic, you do not have different rules depending on the measure you take so what ? you prefer illogical and complicated system ? that's ok since for you its easier because you are now used to it, but it is not better for that reason;-) BTW metric system is not oxolete, it is younger that gallons and miles and other measures... so its more hightech;-p
* for a country that built up a e-commerce in 1980 when you did not know it could be possible, that is not bad;-) (i am talking about the Minitel, ok that was 1200 bd down and 75 bd up, that was character mode only but what did you have that was nationally used in 80s ?);-)
* for a country that built up ATM (the CERN) its not so bad;-)
* http & web techs were built by swiss & french people, not so bad;-)
* well, i do not say french are better that us, that false (because incomparable since us are 300M people and french are 60M people). But france is not that silly backward country that you may think it is:-) and french bread is far better;-p
A few weeks ago, a lotus guy told me that IBM had bought apache patents or something so that they can use the Apache server for some of their products.
Well I just found it rather... hard to believe. But maybe there is some moves in the shadows ?
Hey ! don't tell IBM bought Apache or something. I just repeat something that was told to me by someone who was told by someone... you know the story...
So right now it is just a rumour, and anyone who propagate the rumour without any fact, so he be blamed ! (I do not want to see/. beeing accused of propagating *false* rumours... only *true* rumours must be told here;-D)
license mean copyright (or left), that is restriction definition about copy and use.
I you give something without copyright/left, it is less than public domain. It belongs to noone, that means anyone can take possession of it, then it can forbid even the creator to use the stuff.
note I am not sure at all of that, if anyone can check ?
Tell Caldera (DR-DOS) that M$ is afraid of illegal things...
Moreover, there is no way to tell they got stuff because reverse engeeniering is forbidden by M$ licence. However you can have a hint : if the code is buggy its M$'s own code, if the code is good that's "Free Soft Community" code;-)
But in fact the problem really is M$ can get BSD or even GPL code (illegal practices do not seem to annoy them), integrate them and after copyright the stuff. And even patent it. They did it with Open Internet technology from the W3C...
PS : illegal practices of M$ have not been proved in trials. That's my belief as an individual based on news.
I am currently working with the quality people in my company (as a computer consultant for them). What I learned of this work is that more and more companies build a quality system. I do not know about computer related companies however. If I do not know figures, it seems to me that the trend is getting stronger and stronger, because : * they can use cert as a marketing feature * they get good things back (better internal communication, better failure detection, generally... better organization)
As I already wrote, this does not mean you get a good product at the end, but it definitevely help not to do a bad one;-)
If computer corps did some procedure explaining how to introduce a new feature in a software, and how to test it, I think lots of bugs would be catched long before the product hit the market. But the problem is they just pour new features as soon as competitors introduce them in they own soft... no review, no desgin, few testing... look at M$ and meditate:-)
ISO 900x standards of quality ensure a company works in a good way. They do not tell what the company does is of good quality but when you do something well, you have better chances to get something good at the end...
If I sum everything up, it seems (I'll see the film in months in france:'-( ) the film is a bit short with the story.
You say maybe Lucas will use money to do the next. I think the more money, the less interesting (usally) a film is. Lucas' problem was he *had* not to deceive people (fanatics and non fanatics). Therefore it was hard for him to take risks (even if he wanted). My bet is next 2 films will not be different, because SW has become a legend, and you cannot let a legend crash, so you take little risk with it.
How do you prevent spamers to send different messages about the same product ?
You can build automatically different versions of a message and then say they are all different. More, there is no way to compare 2 such messages and say they are indeed the same (because an add of the same thing).
Therefore their claim that the message has not been sent to more than 10 people is technically right, but this is semantically false.
Ok for domain names as being virtual property. In fact you can say the same about patents (which can be bought). However there is a real change because domain names (and patents) are corporate property. Now that non corporate people buy / sell virtual property we can speak of "revolution" or at least a "turn". This was the same with the Internet and networking in general. As long as only corporations & organizations dealt with networking there was no revolution. But now that mass market come in, that's clearly a revolution.
my netscape 4.5 with NT Server 4 & SP 3 works fine... but an error message on top of my page. This is a failure connection messge sent by my firewall, but since the rest of the page displays correctly I though it was my network problem
anyway, just format your linux patition and run M$ Windows !
not necessarily, you may simulate an environment, if it is developped enough, you may get Intelligence/conciousness. And what a richer digital/virtual world we have if not the Net ?
Anyone read/saw "Ghost in the shell" ? quote : "I am born in the sea of information";-)
I am ready to agree to this, but only about algorithms
the thing is if an algorithm is something predictible and has no real intelligence in itself, the algorithm can manupulate knowledge tokens that in turn may carry intelligence.
Our bodies are made by molecules and there is no intelligence in relations between 2 pieces of proteins. I think that intelligence does not lay into algorithms but in what they manipulate. Look at the brain : my thinking is generated by electric pulses and chemistic elements
I wonder when Penrose wrote that book ? Ok I did not read it but what you present seems biased, but I really agree about : "This implies that human consciousness consists of more than a mere algorithm".
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turning on TV and doing something else is not really watching TV to me.
:-)
if you want to reduce your "watching" time just do like me : put the TV set in another room and buyb no tuner card or by one not usable under linux (like me)
well... music is better than junk shows on TV
and what is /. server configuration ?
yes french revolution changed everything (metric, calendar) system, but that was mainly to have something totally different from the monarchal system ;-) ;-p
metric system design was based upon the rim of earth or something like that and it was decimal because people count in decimal... and it's easier to have only one counting system. even britts changed their complicated monetary system to simplification some tenth years ago (sheelings(?) went out)
on the other side, the calendar changement did not last because it was not pratical.
as for weight and volumes, it integrates very nicelly with the length system : you only have one logic, you do not have different rules depending on the measure you take
so what ? you prefer illogical and complicated system ? that's ok since for you its easier because you are now used to it, but it is not better for that reason
BTW metric system is not oxolete, it is younger that gallons and miles and other measures... so its more hightech
* for a country that built up a e-commerce in 1980 when you did not know it could be possible, that is not bad ;-) (i am talking about the Minitel, ok that was 1200 bd down and 75 bd up, that was character mode only but what did you have that was nationally used in 80s ?) ;-)
;-)
;-)
:-) and french bread is far better ;-p
* for a country that built up ATM (the CERN) its not so bad
* http & web techs were built by swiss & french people, not so bad
* well, i do not say french are better that us, that false (because incomparable since us are 300M people and french are 60M people). But france is not that silly backward country that you may think it is
A few weeks ago, a lotus guy told me that IBM had bought apache patents or something so that they can use the Apache server for some of their products.
/. beeing accused of propagating *false* rumours... only *true* rumours must be told here ;-D)
Well I just found it rather... hard to believe. But maybe there is some moves in the shadows ?
Hey ! don't tell IBM bought Apache or something. I just repeat something that was told to me by someone who was told by someone... you know the story...
So right now it is just a rumour, and anyone who propagate the rumour without any fact, so he be blamed ! (I do not want to see
license mean copyright (or left), that is restriction definition about copy and use.
I you give something without copyright/left, it is less than public domain. It belongs to noone, that means anyone can take possession of it, then it can forbid even the creator to use the stuff.
note I am not sure at all of that, if anyone can check ?
Tell Caldera (DR-DOS) that M$ is afraid of illegal things...
;-)
Moreover, there is no way to tell they got stuff because reverse engeeniering is forbidden by M$ licence. However you can have a hint : if the code is buggy its M$'s own code, if the code is good that's "Free Soft Community" code
But in fact the problem really is M$ can get BSD or even GPL code (illegal practices do not seem to annoy them), integrate them and after copyright the stuff. And even patent it. They did it with Open Internet technology from the W3C...
PS : illegal practices of M$ have not been proved in trials. That's my belief as an individual based on news.
so why not given that money now ? why does he wait to die ? ;-)
and what better charity than all these poor Windows users who beta test his products ?
ok not for w2000 but for w3000 (just a few years later of course) ?
I agree with you but not on the last point.
;-)
:-)
I am currently working with the quality people in my company (as a computer consultant for them). What I learned of this work is that more and more companies build a quality system. I do not know about computer related companies however. If I do not know figures, it seems to me that the trend is getting stronger and stronger, because :
* they can use cert as a marketing feature
* they get good things back (better internal communication, better failure detection, generally... better organization)
As I already wrote, this does not mean you get a good product at the end, but it definitevely help not to do a bad one
If computer corps did some procedure explaining how to introduce a new feature in a software, and how to test it, I think lots of bugs would be catched long before the product hit the market. But the problem is they just pour new features as soon as competitors introduce them in they own soft... no review, no desgin, few testing... look at M$ and meditate
ISO 900x standards of quality ensure a company works in a good way. They do not tell what the company does is of good quality but when you do something well, you have better chances to get something good at the end...
How many computer corps are ISO 900x certified ?
If I sum everything up, it seems (I'll see the film in months in france :'-( ) the film is a bit short with the story.
You say maybe Lucas will use money to do the next. I think the more money, the less interesting (usally) a film is. Lucas' problem was he *had* not to deceive people (fanatics and non fanatics). Therefore it was hard for him to take risks (even if he wanted).
My bet is next 2 films will not be different, because SW has become a legend, and you cannot let a legend crash, so you take little risk with it.
How do you prevent spamers to send different messages about the same product ?
You can build automatically different versions of a message and then say they are all different. More, there is no way to compare 2 such messages and say they are indeed the same (because an add of the same thing).
Therefore their claim that the message has not been sent to more than 10 people is technically right, but this is semantically false.
I read somewhere the reason was a copyright problem with Meier's Civilization
Ok for domain names as being virtual property. In fact you can say the same about patents (which can be bought).
However there is a real change because domain names (and patents) are corporate property. Now that non corporate people buy / sell virtual property we can speak of "revolution" or at least a "turn". This was the same with the Internet and networking in general. As long as only corporations & organizations dealt with networking there was no revolution. But now that mass market come in, that's clearly a revolution.
my netscape 4.5 with NT Server 4 & SP 3 works fine... but an error message on top of my page. This is a failure connection messge sent by my firewall, but since the rest of the page displays correctly I though it was my network problem
;-)
anyway, just format your linux patition and run M$ Windows !
just kidding
If you can get an URL Iam very interested, because where I will probably never come accross that paper...
"i think its brain would melt.." : not necessarily because there is some very well structured sites
,-)
I suppose there should be some selecion of sites (discard newsgroups, porn sites, and Al Gore's site
not necessarily, you may simulate an environment, if it is developped enough, you may get Intelligence/conciousness. And what a richer digital/virtual world we have if not the Net ?
;-)
Anyone read/saw "Ghost in the shell" ?
quote : "I am born in the sea of information"
then will have to wait Windows 2010 or 2063 or even 3010 ;-)
read Descartes demonstration about "I think therefore I am", its not so tautological
NT server = girlfriend
3com switch = foreigner trainee student
linux server = nextdoor secretary (expert in powerPoint)
yep they have "intelligence" and gender
unless you consider bugs are "emergent behaviour" ?
;-)
I guess noone would reasonnably argue that bugs are some kind of intelligence... It would rather be the lack of
I am ready to agree to this, but only about algorithms
the thing is if an algorithm is something predictible and has no real intelligence in itself, the algorithm can manupulate knowledge tokens that in turn may carry intelligence.
Our bodies are made by molecules and there is no intelligence in relations between 2 pieces of proteins. I think that intelligence does not lay into algorithms but in what they manipulate. Look at the brain : my thinking is generated by electric pulses and chemistic elements
I wonder when Penrose wrote that book ? Ok I did not read it but what you present seems biased, but I really agree about : "This implies that human consciousness consists of more than a mere algorithm".