The lie of communism is "work hard today and we'll all live in paradise tomorrow". The lie of capitalism is "work hard today and you'll live in paradise tomorrow". It's very similar, but way more personal. And the reason it "works" is that in communism, blaming the system cannot be debunked. In capitalism, you'll easily find someone saying that it's just your fault when it fails, even though the system is just as rigged to keep those in power in power and those without without.
So the US didn't deliver weapons to Saddam for the gulf war so he cleans up the blunder with the Shah whose weapons (the 4th largest stockpile of cutting edge tech of the time, no less, courtesy of the US of A) fell into the hands of that bearded towelhead?
No, I questioned why invading Iran is good and invading Kuwait is bad. What makes one better than the other? As long as Saddam kept invading Iran he was our buddy, but when he noticed that, hey, he could much easier grab the oil fields over there he was suddenly no longer the bulwark against The Evil but became The Evil himself.
In other words, yes, we knew that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. We had the delivery slips to prove it.
They're by far not the only catalog retailer that got killed by the internet.
Yes, they should have been what Amazon is now. They had it all going for them. They had the whole logistic and infrastructure in place, all they had to do is to simply trade catalog for online presence.
For this, though, you need managers that actually see past their quarter report and can anticipate trends. Old, entrenched corporations rarely have that.
That's true if, and only if, you can't milk it for about 3 generations longer than you actually live. That's ridiculous. And hardly an incentive to ever create anything again if you already made enough that you and your great-grandchildren can still live off it.
It's never been faster from creation to commercialization than today. And at the same time copyright has never been longer.
Yes, that bit about Iraq was rough. I mean, sure, as an ally of the US you should be prepared to be stabbed in the back when you're no longer needed, but what you did with Saddam was really awful. Just 'cause he attacked the wrong dictatorship. And because a prez needed something to distract from a dirty dress that he didn't even wear himself.
But discussing history with someone from the US is always a blast. You never know just how fucked up his world view is. That's not to say that there aren't any people from the US that actually do know a thing or two about history, but it's amazing just how many only got the 'murrica-is-numba-one indoctrination.
I don't know if they exactly know what it would mean. Many former East Germans (you know, the ones living in the commie land) desperately tried to get to the west, often risking limb and life to "make it over".
Now, 25 years after the reunion of the two Germanys, you have quite a few people in the East that wish the GDR would reemerge. They feel betrayed and even that they're worse off than they were back in the GDR.
People only see the glamorous bits. Never the ugly ones.
Ok, capitalism as our form of economy and doing business is on the way out. Capitalism itself would be a pretty good idea, I think we should try it once again if we get around to it.
Unfortunately I don't have any numbers at hand how many people were killed by the US in various wars around the globe to prove that capitalism has the bigger dick.
Ok, it proved that they are the bigger dick, that at least I give you.
You do know that you can almost take this word for word, replace some of the protagonists and countries and switch "capitalism" and "communism" without actually losing meaning.
With maybe the eating of dogs being not something you'd witness often in the US, granted.
Personal computer? I'd love to have one, can you offer one? A PERSONAL computer that I actually own?
I don't mean some hardware and software that I get to pay for where the maker (or even someone else) retains the right to dictate what can and cannot run on it, and if, for how long.
The laws of supply and demand don't apply anymore. Can you actually buy what you want? What you want can probably not even be built because some corporation holds a patent hostage that doesn't allow someone who would build it for you to build it, so you have to instead buy their inferior, spyware riddled crap. Can you get the internet access you want? Or does the monopoly of a certain cable company hold you hostage to pay through the nose for a crappy line with nonexistent support because they bought the local government to ensure that nobody can compete with them? Can you get the food you want? Or did some soda corporation decide that it's not in their interest to offer the flavor you want and they bully the local cornerstore into not offering any competing sodas if they want to get the discount they need to stay competitive?
The laws of supply and demand would meant that you, as the customer, decide in the end what gets produced because producers would want to supply what you demand because you would buy what you want and those not offering what you want are left out in the cold and will eventually die off, and if nobody offered it, someone would step in and open a business to offer it for it is what the market demands. That is what the law of supply and demand would dictate.
Just because people want something, not knowing what they really get into, doesn't mean it's a good thing. People don't start shooting heroin for the withdrawal effects, ya know?
Funny. Especially considering that the very idea of royalties due to copyright are anathema to capitalism because they pretty much outlaw one of its cornerstones: Competition.
I don't know what it's gonna be replaced by, but capitalism in its actual sense is already dead. The key features are in many areas already gone or on the way out, with competition and the demand side as the decider of the "best" product being two of the most important parts that are already gone or pretty much gone in most areas.
Where they still exist, capitalism still works pretty well. Where they don't, well, it's been replaced by a corporate dictate of products and prices.
We rely on it for our bullshit bingo. Don't teach managers to talk like people, those speeches they tend to hold in front of all of us would get a lot more boring if we can't do our beer betting pool anymore!
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The lie of communism is "work hard today and we'll all live in paradise tomorrow". The lie of capitalism is "work hard today and you'll live in paradise tomorrow". It's very similar, but way more personal. And the reason it "works" is that in communism, blaming the system cannot be debunked. In capitalism, you'll easily find someone saying that it's just your fault when it fails, even though the system is just as rigged to keep those in power in power and those without without.
So the US didn't deliver weapons to Saddam for the gulf war so he cleans up the blunder with the Shah whose weapons (the 4th largest stockpile of cutting edge tech of the time, no less, courtesy of the US of A) fell into the hands of that bearded towelhead?
No, I questioned why invading Iran is good and invading Kuwait is bad. What makes one better than the other? As long as Saddam kept invading Iran he was our buddy, but when he noticed that, hey, he could much easier grab the oil fields over there he was suddenly no longer the bulwark against The Evil but became The Evil himself.
In other words, yes, we knew that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. We had the delivery slips to prove it.
Great, so we're learning from the loser now?
They're by far not the only catalog retailer that got killed by the internet.
Yes, they should have been what Amazon is now. They had it all going for them. They had the whole logistic and infrastructure in place, all they had to do is to simply trade catalog for online presence.
For this, though, you need managers that actually see past their quarter report and can anticipate trends. Old, entrenched corporations rarely have that.
That's true if, and only if, you can't milk it for about 3 generations longer than you actually live. That's ridiculous. And hardly an incentive to ever create anything again if you already made enough that you and your great-grandchildren can still live off it.
It's never been faster from creation to commercialization than today. And at the same time copyright has never been longer.
If you replace "integrate" with "assimilate" (very much in the Borg sense), you actually have a correct statement there.
Yes, that bit about Iraq was rough. I mean, sure, as an ally of the US you should be prepared to be stabbed in the back when you're no longer needed, but what you did with Saddam was really awful. Just 'cause he attacked the wrong dictatorship. And because a prez needed something to distract from a dirty dress that he didn't even wear himself.
But discussing history with someone from the US is always a blast. You never know just how fucked up his world view is. That's not to say that there aren't any people from the US that actually do know a thing or two about history, but it's amazing just how many only got the 'murrica-is-numba-one indoctrination.
Yes, that. Preferably without a management engine that is controlled by ... god only knows who.
I don't know if they exactly know what it would mean. Many former East Germans (you know, the ones living in the commie land) desperately tried to get to the west, often risking limb and life to "make it over".
Now, 25 years after the reunion of the two Germanys, you have quite a few people in the East that wish the GDR would reemerge. They feel betrayed and even that they're worse off than they were back in the GDR.
People only see the glamorous bits. Never the ugly ones.
Ok, capitalism as our form of economy and doing business is on the way out. Capitalism itself would be a pretty good idea, I think we should try it once again if we get around to it.
Unfortunately I don't have any numbers at hand how many people were killed by the US in various wars around the globe to prove that capitalism has the bigger dick.
Ok, it proved that they are the bigger dick, that at least I give you.
You do know that you can almost take this word for word, replace some of the protagonists and countries and switch "capitalism" and "communism" without actually losing meaning.
With maybe the eating of dogs being not something you'd witness often in the US, granted.
Personal computer? I'd love to have one, can you offer one? A PERSONAL computer that I actually own?
I don't mean some hardware and software that I get to pay for where the maker (or even someone else) retains the right to dictate what can and cannot run on it, and if, for how long.
The laws of supply and demand don't apply anymore. Can you actually buy what you want? What you want can probably not even be built because some corporation holds a patent hostage that doesn't allow someone who would build it for you to build it, so you have to instead buy their inferior, spyware riddled crap. Can you get the internet access you want? Or does the monopoly of a certain cable company hold you hostage to pay through the nose for a crappy line with nonexistent support because they bought the local government to ensure that nobody can compete with them? Can you get the food you want? Or did some soda corporation decide that it's not in their interest to offer the flavor you want and they bully the local cornerstore into not offering any competing sodas if they want to get the discount they need to stay competitive?
The laws of supply and demand would meant that you, as the customer, decide in the end what gets produced because producers would want to supply what you demand because you would buy what you want and those not offering what you want are left out in the cold and will eventually die off, and if nobody offered it, someone would step in and open a business to offer it for it is what the market demands. That is what the law of supply and demand would dictate.
Do you honestly feel like this is the case?
Just because people want something, not knowing what they really get into, doesn't mean it's a good thing. People don't start shooting heroin for the withdrawal effects, ya know?
If you dissociate "the US" from "people living in the US" then you're actually right.
Well, judging from how capitalism fares, I have a hard time telling what exactly the failure here is.
Mostly that of the people. Capitalism is harder to debunk and more personal, but it's still the same lie as communism.
Hey boss, I found something new.
It offers more of money and less of you.
They were demonized? Care to elaborate, apparently it didn't arrive over here across the pond.
Funny. Especially considering that the very idea of royalties due to copyright are anathema to capitalism because they pretty much outlaw one of its cornerstones: Competition.
I don't know what it's gonna be replaced by, but capitalism in its actual sense is already dead. The key features are in many areas already gone or on the way out, with competition and the demand side as the decider of the "best" product being two of the most important parts that are already gone or pretty much gone in most areas.
Where they still exist, capitalism still works pretty well. Where they don't, well, it's been replaced by a corporate dictate of products and prices.
We rely on it for our bullshit bingo. Don't teach managers to talk like people, those speeches they tend to hold in front of all of us would get a lot more boring if we can't do our beer betting pool anymore!
Water finds jack shit. Water has no will and no agency. And no fucking memory either, while we're at it!
Why do you hate bananas?