You realize a large portion of our 'poor history of wild animal conservation' is a direct result of factory farming, right?
The Bureau of Land Management wild horse slaughters being famous examples - tens of thousands of wild horses driven from public lands and slaughtered or sold, because cattle barons insist they need the space for their livestock.
I used to work in the IT dept. for a company that replaced forklift drivers with highly automated forklifts
An aside: From what I've noticed, it's not the 'low-wage/no-skill' jobs that are being automated out of existence, but more the mid-range work in both terms of skill required and pay rate: Forklift operators, machinists, welders, et. al. are the ones losing jobs to robots, not fast food workers.
We can fantasize all day about minimum wage based myths of automation, but the reality of the matter is that it's not the poor who are being automated out of work, it's the middle class.
Toyota flooring cover were sticking the pedals down when pushed down hard by the user. That's quite different, in this case he took his feet off and the car didn't start accelerating as if there was no tomorrow.
It wasn't the floor mats, that was bogus shit they concocted to suppress the real issue with their control software.
So, was any of that ever proven, you know, scientifically? Because from what I read, the "proof" of Toyota's alleged bad behavior was 100% based on the opinions of people in a courtroom, rather than empirical data.
I just don't like people that gain pleasure from needlessly slaughtering wild creatures
Yea, I don't like it when people make baseless assumptions because their preconceived notions and attitudes prevent them from even attempting to see the world from a viewpoint other than the one cemented behind their own eyes.
Heel-toeing is not a manual-transmission thing, you know.
But it is manual-only. In an automatic, you'd use left-foot-braking instead. From your link:
"It involves operating the throttle and brake pedals simultaneously with the right foot, while facilitating normal activation of the clutch with the left foot. "
If it's not manual only, why are you working the clutch with your left foot?
What? You can heel-toe in an automatic. The left foot stays on the dead-pedal, like always.
Hey, you're the one that superfluously mentioned manual transmissions. Since you know what the term means, assume my comment is directed at anyone who may have been confused by yours.
As I told my cable provider, "I am not paying you to spy on me, or limit what content I can access, or control how I access said conten. I am paying you for X amount of bandwidth over Y number of days, nothing more, nothing less. Let's keep this relationship professional, shall we?"
OK, so it didn't have all that much effect on my service, but I do feel a hell of a lot better throwing it in their faces every chance I get.
Kidding aside, a better question to ask them would be, 'which is preferable: to have a handful of your numbers die quickly and relatively painlessly every year, or have hundreds of thousands of your numbers die slow, painful deaths from starvation and/or disease?"
So which should we be using in famine stricken areas of Africa? Which did the people pick? Surprisingly, it seems that, given the choice, people pick the slow painful method. Why would you assume deer would choose the opposite?
Um, because deer aren't sentient beings capable of high-level rationalization, unlike humans? C'mon, man, you have to know you're grasping here.
Note that I never said it was a good question, just better.
You haven't been keeping up on the current insanity/stupidity driven ammo market.
Haven't I? My in-laws run a chain of gun shops.
Which probably has something to do with the fact that I know about most ammo buying rushes before they happen, and can get in on the ground floor, before prices jump too much:)
FWIW, though,.270 Winchester isn't a popular "buy-out" round, like.223 or 9mm. Even when the other shelves are pretty much bare, I can still find plenty of deer ammo on the cheap.
As for the "that, or ammo is insanely expensive where you hail from," we're talking about Alaska.... no need to guess.
Fair enough. Hey, what are the regulations on interstate sale of privately owned ammo? I could make a mint...
The worst pedal arrangement I've ever seen was in a manual transmission Mini Cooper S. That floorboard was designed for a goddamn stick-man. Seriously, I'm not a very big dude, and even I had trouble heel-toeing to the brake pedal without accidentally catching the edge of the clutch pedal.
Long story short, unless Tesla outsourced the pedal design to Mini, it could be worse.
Hunters with high-velocity rifles/sniper scopes/drones/helicopters vs. an unarmed animal? When one side has such a massively asymmetric advantage it is ridiculous to label the activity as a sport. I laugh at those pathetic people. They should be embarrassed to even admit that they are mentally stunted enough to even want to do it.
Yea, just like all those people who use a computer to do billions of mathematical calculations, instead of breaking out the ol' stone tablet and chisel. Pathetic fucking losers.
When the activity is no longer necessary, then it's a pastime. Where your goal is to inflict suffering.
Actually, the goal is to achieve the kill without causing undue suffering. Which is why you often have a hard time finding an open spot at the shooting range in the weeks leading up to deer season: all the hunters are out sighting in their rifles, to ensure an accurate shot.
If my goal was to inflict suffering, I'd just go buy a pound of factory-farm produced beef.
So they limit the rifle hunters to a smaller window as they can potentially harm the game population to a point where they are now over hunting. The bow hunters aren't a threat to the game populations as they take in far less prey.
Takes are metered by way of permitting. If someone is taking more game than they are legally permitted to, they are poaching, regardless of what hunting method they use.
It takes a few dollars worth of ammo to take down an animal.
What on earth are you hunting for/with?
I mean, OK, if we're talkin' bears, I can see having to pump a few rounds into the SOB to take it down.
But if you're using "a few dollars worth of ammo" to take out, say, a deer or other mid size to small game... you're doin' it wrong. That, or ammo is insanely expensive where you hail from.
Besides, I've never been to a supermarket that serves venison.
They don't have venison in the US? Every supermarket has venison in the UK, even the cheapest ones like Lidl and Aldi. They don't have a big selection, though.
Not at your typical, mass-market grocery store. At least, not at any of the ones around here, can't speak for other areas of the country. In the US, "meat," at least in supermarket terms, equals beef/chicken/pork. Occasionally you'll see oddities like bison or ostrich, but it's rare and typically prohibitively expensive.
I've seen venison a few times at the storefronts for some of the local farms and slaughterhouses, although it's typically a seasonal affair; I'd rather spend $12 on a tag, $10 on fuel, $1 on a round of.270 Winchester, and go shoot one of my own, rather than spend $6.99/lb at some boutique market.
Conservation is a big part of the culture around these parts.
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You realize a large portion of our 'poor history of wild animal conservation' is a direct result of factory farming, right?
The Bureau of Land Management wild horse slaughters being famous examples - tens of thousands of wild horses driven from public lands and slaughtered or sold, because cattle barons insist they need the space for their livestock.
I used to work in the IT dept. for a company that replaced forklift drivers with highly automated forklifts
An aside: From what I've noticed, it's not the 'low-wage/no-skill' jobs that are being automated out of existence, but more the mid-range work in both terms of skill required and pay rate: Forklift operators, machinists, welders, et. al. are the ones losing jobs to robots, not fast food workers.
We can fantasize all day about minimum wage based myths of automation, but the reality of the matter is that it's not the poor who are being automated out of work, it's the middle class.
If ever a Slashdot post existed that deserved a +6 mod, I think this is the one.
Your opinion has been noted and summarily ignored.
Have a nice Tolkien Appreciation Day.
I don't disagree, I was merely answering the question as to what OP's rationale may be.
What makes you think no tax applies to a barter transaction?
The fact that no treasury notes change hands, if I were a bettin' man.
Now they'll be able to choose between a free-to-try or paid model.' Good news for developers, perhaps not as good for customers.
Customers?
Like, all of both of them?
Toyota flooring cover were sticking the pedals down when pushed down hard by the user. That's quite different, in this case he took his feet off and the car didn't start accelerating as if there was no tomorrow.
It wasn't the floor mats, that was bogus shit they concocted to suppress the real issue with their control software.
So, was any of that ever proven, you know, scientifically? Because from what I read, the "proof" of Toyota's alleged bad behavior was 100% based on the opinions of people in a courtroom, rather than empirical data.
I'm not a Luddite at all. I love new technology.
... unless it's firearm technology, apparently.
I just don't like people that gain pleasure from needlessly slaughtering wild creatures
Yea, I don't like it when people make baseless assumptions because their preconceived notions and attitudes prevent them from even attempting to see the world from a viewpoint other than the one cemented behind their own eyes.
Heel-toeing is not a manual-transmission thing, you know.
But it is manual-only. In an automatic, you'd use left-foot-braking instead. From your link:
"It involves operating the throttle and brake pedals simultaneously with the right foot, while facilitating normal activation of the clutch with the left foot. "
If it's not manual only, why are you working the clutch with your left foot?
What? You can heel-toe in an automatic. The left foot stays on the dead-pedal, like always.
Yeah, better kill the ones that have a good life in nature as well, these animals must sure be darn tasty.
Well, if the hippies at Whole Foods aren't complete liars, "free-range" animals are tastier than their restrictively caged counterparts.
Weird that some people balk about hunting, but don't think twice about what those labels at the grocery store really mean.
Hey, you're the one that superfluously mentioned manual transmissions. Since you know what the term means, assume my comment is directed at anyone who may have been confused by yours.
The thing is, you have no use for heel-toe in a Tesla. Not only is it not a manual, it does not have gears at all.
Huh?
Heel-toeing is not a manual-transmission thing, you know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...
..grats for showing the world how you can totally miss the point bud.
No, I get that you're a Luddite, I just refuse to accept your worldview.
As I told my cable provider, "I am not paying you to spy on me, or limit what content I can access, or control how I access said conten. I am paying you for X amount of bandwidth over Y number of days, nothing more, nothing less. Let's keep this relationship professional, shall we?"
OK, so it didn't have all that much effect on my service, but I do feel a hell of a lot better throwing it in their faces every chance I get.
Kidding aside, a better question to ask them would be, 'which is preferable: to have a handful of your numbers die quickly and relatively painlessly every year, or have hundreds of thousands of your numbers die slow, painful deaths from starvation and/or disease?"
So which should we be using in famine stricken areas of Africa? Which did the people pick? Surprisingly, it seems that, given the choice, people pick the slow painful method. Why would you assume deer would choose the opposite?
Um, because deer aren't sentient beings capable of high-level rationalization, unlike humans? C'mon, man, you have to know you're grasping here.
Note that I never said it was a good question, just better.
You haven't been keeping up on the current insanity/stupidity driven ammo market.
Haven't I? My in-laws run a chain of gun shops.
Which probably has something to do with the fact that I know about most ammo buying rushes before they happen, and can get in on the ground floor, before prices jump too much :)
FWIW, though, .270 Winchester isn't a popular "buy-out" round, like .223 or 9mm. Even when the other shelves are pretty much bare, I can still find plenty of deer ammo on the cheap.
As for the "that, or ammo is insanely expensive where you hail from," we're talking about Alaska.... no need to guess.
Fair enough. Hey, what are the regulations on interstate sale of privately owned ammo? I could make a mint...
The worst pedal arrangement I've ever seen was in a manual transmission Mini Cooper S. That floorboard was designed for a goddamn stick-man. Seriously, I'm not a very big dude, and even I had trouble heel-toeing to the brake pedal without accidentally catching the edge of the clutch pedal.
Long story short, unless Tesla outsourced the pedal design to Mini, it could be worse.
Hey look, some idiot hit the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal and it's "news" because it was a Tesla.
It was "news" when it happened to Toyota, too.
Your sacred cow, eh, eets not so sacred.
Hunters with high-velocity rifles/sniper scopes/drones/helicopters vs. an unarmed animal? When one side has such a massively asymmetric advantage it is ridiculous to label the activity as a sport. I laugh at those pathetic people. They should be embarrassed to even admit that they are mentally stunted enough to even want to do it.
Yea, just like all those people who use a computer to do billions of mathematical calculations, instead of breaking out the ol' stone tablet and chisel. Pathetic fucking losers.
When the activity is no longer necessary, then it's a pastime. Where your goal is to inflict suffering.
Actually, the goal is to achieve the kill without causing undue suffering. Which is why you often have a hard time finding an open spot at the shooting range in the weeks leading up to deer season: all the hunters are out sighting in their rifles, to ensure an accurate shot.
If my goal was to inflict suffering, I'd just go buy a pound of factory-farm produced beef.
So they limit the rifle hunters to a smaller window as they can potentially harm the game population to a point where they are now over hunting. The bow hunters aren't a threat to the game populations as they take in far less prey.
Takes are metered by way of permitting. If someone is taking more game than they are legally permitted to, they are poaching, regardless of what hunting method they use.
Who the fuck is interested in a 'fair fight'?
In this circumstance?
Luddites.
It takes a few dollars worth of ammo to take down an animal.
What on earth are you hunting for/with?
I mean, OK, if we're talkin' bears, I can see having to pump a few rounds into the SOB to take it down.
But if you're using "a few dollars worth of ammo" to take out, say, a deer or other mid size to small game... you're doin' it wrong. That, or ammo is insanely expensive where you hail from.
Besides, I've never been to a supermarket that serves venison.
They don't have venison in the US? Every supermarket has venison in the UK, even the cheapest ones like Lidl and Aldi. They don't have a big selection, though.
Not at your typical, mass-market grocery store. At least, not at any of the ones around here, can't speak for other areas of the country. In the US, "meat," at least in supermarket terms, equals beef/chicken/pork. Occasionally you'll see oddities like bison or ostrich, but it's rare and typically prohibitively expensive.
I've seen venison a few times at the storefronts for some of the local farms and slaughterhouses, although it's typically a seasonal affair; I'd rather spend $12 on a tag, $10 on fuel, $1 on a round of .270 Winchester, and go shoot one of my own, rather than spend $6.99/lb at some boutique market.
Conservation is a big part of the culture around these parts.