You could make exactly the opposite argument with exactly the same evidence (i.e. none): that the decision should be made by someone not at immediate risk of death because they'll be more likely to make the safer-for-others choices and clearly identifying targets rather than making the safer-for-them choices and shooting anything that moves.
Haven't read a whole lot about the US drone program, specifically in Pakistan, have you?
Of course, the issues there are less with the robotics aspect, and more a "using explosives where a scalpel would do" kinda thing.
So how do you program them without said human's intervention? Humans are fallible so all things produced by them are also fallible.
not what i meant. yes, there will be bugs and innocents will be killed. but humans also fallible. that's something we don't need to speculate on. i'd rather have a software engineer coding the rules of engagement in a quiet, calm environment with their peers reviewing and re-reviewing them, adding multiple levels of failsafes, than a soldier that just saw his buddy's brains splattered on the pavement and gun has jammed and has multiple bad guys bearing down on him.
You're either forgetting or ignoring another, very important aspect of humanity - namely, the ability to feel compassion, shame, empathy, etc.
I wouldn't let a machine pet a kitten because machines lack the ability to understand things like pain; why the hell would I want to program them to kill?
What I find entertaining is the Naive thinking these will be used in the theater of war. They want to use these in the American cities.
My concern precisely.
In the event the feds were to declare some sort of universal martial law, I would much prefer human soldiers to robotic ones.
For starters, two of my brothers are soldiers. They'd sooner go AWOL than murder their own families, or anyone else's. Do robots suffer from that sort of compassionate episode?
One would think that a self-proclaimed "gear head" would know the difference between an oil galley [sic] and a crankcase.
One would think that a smart-ass attempting to mock somebody for using a certain term would have bothered to look said term up before posting, to avoid looking like a jackass.
Properly maintained, the common internal combustion engine can keep going for a very, very long time - I've seen several that passed the half-a-million mile mark, a few of which are still going strong today.
FWIW, and again assuming proper maintenance, your car's engine is one of the least likely parts to fail. Except maybe the floorboards.
So, the idea is that the grooves in the piston will create little eddies of air that separate the combustion chamber from the oil galley, right?
Here's the problem - the air that forms said eddies has to come from somewhere, and there's only two options: the combustion chamber, or the oil galley.
Still, to a gear head such as myself, it's still a pretty cool idea.
Our government vehemently believes it has the right to remove you from your home and incarcerate you with no charges or due process.
Does anyone believe that a government with such a mercurial attitude towards civil liberties wouldn't resort to assassinating citizens who makes a nuisance of themselves?
I said i can record what i see and you build a FLIR straw man.
Just because you can't come up with an argument for it, doesn't make it a straw man argument.
Fact is, FLIR cameras are real, people can buy them, they very much can see through solid walls (being IR and all), and it is quite illegal for cops to use them without a warrant. But you seem to think either A) you can use them to spy on people in their own homes with impunity, or B) that the technology doesn't exist (even though it obviously does). Or maybe C) you're just angry and spouting off whatever foam happens to hit your mouth at the moment.
As I said, i believe I have the right to record any spectra my eye can detect, IR and FLIR are not things a normal eye can detect.
So... you don't understand how cameras work, then? Color me not surprised.
Again, I'm not saying this particular guy isn't a moron.
What I'm saying is that when you state such a lofty expectation for behavior in politicians, you pretty much ensure that the only people who will ever qualify for said positions are people who spend their lives being groomed for it. Which leads to political dynasties. Which, IMO, generally suck for the people who aren't part of the aforementioned powerful families.
Actually that is where I read it. It clearly says since the mid '70s.
It also clearly says that, while the levitating is not new, the 3D movement is. Next time, try reading the entire summary before commenting.
Yea, you know what gets me? We went from flight to landing people on celestial bodies in, what, 40 years of aeronautics? Given the same amount of time, 'acoustic levitation' researchers have gone from one speaker to... several... speakers...
That's hardly professional or mature for an elected official, inside joke or not.
This is a mentality I just can't get down with.
OK, so maybe resigning in Klingon wasn't the best decision he could have made; but, when you start pointing out a certain expectation for the 'professional or mature' attitude of elected officials, you're pretty much assuring that the only people who will fit the bill are the same kind of career politicians that have been fucking things up for your entire life.
You should find out how many of those animals are local, and how many are imported from out of the area or out of state. Many shelters now import dogs to fill their cages. The humane society in Nampa, Idaho actually advertised on Craigslist, wanting to buy puppies so they could resell 'em. (I saw the ad myself.)
Wow - that's fucked up, man.
I decided "FUCK the 'humane' society" a few years ago, when the local Animal Control officer informed me that our HSUS facility puts down more animals than they do.
No, I usually work for one local (no-kill) shelter in particular, because I know the people who run it, they always seem to be just short of what they need to survive, and (here's the selfish part) it's pretty close to my house.
Didn't even bother to look at the 'reasonably prudent' link, did ya?
Personally, I still can't get over the fact that you think roofing a quarter acre of open space is a reasonable suggestion. I guess I can say goodbye to my garden, and grass, and trees...
OK, well there's the crux of the issue - you believe you have a right, when you really don't. How does this make you any different than, say, a religious fundamentalist that wants to ban homosexuality, because he believes he has a right to do so?
I believe i have the right to record anything my eye can legally see.
Well, aside the fact that you don't, a video camera sees a lot more than your eye does, such as the IR spectrum. Remember when Sony first came out with the HandyCam, and it was discovered that if you turned on the night-sight during the day, it could see through people's clothing? Do you honestly think you have a right to digitally undress people? Do you think they have the right to do the same to you?
How about FLIR cameras? Those can see right through a solid wall, so when they become cheap enough to be ubiquitous, are you really trying to tell me that you think you have a right to stand in front of someone's house, recording everything they do inside (something the government has decided even they can't do legally, without a warrant)? Think, man.
I forget where I read it, but while Honey Boo-Boo is extremely irritating, the mother is extremely responsible with regards to the money the show is bringing in for her child. Its locked up until her child is 18, unlike what the majority of people due with their children's television/movie earnings.
Oh, well, then that makes whoring out your child for personal gain perfectly OK. I guess the childhood obesity isn't really bad, either, the mom is just protecting her from pedos - fat kids are harder to kidnap, right?
"Credit where credit due" sort of thing.
I just did, although we obviously disagree on what they should be getting credit for.
Yea, I loved how my parents did everything out in the open; made it a heck of a lot easier to work around all those restrictions since I knew what they were.
(This actually isn't true - my parents were smart enough to know better)
"I was hit on the head by a meteorite once, so everyone should always wear hard-hats. By the way, I wasn't actually ever hit on the head by a meteorite."
www.coinwarz.com - you input your hashrate and it will calculate which crypto is currently the most profitable (of course, as with everything, you have to use caution).
I managed to earn ~1.8BTC by mining Unobtanium right after it was introduced for a few days. I probably would have mined 0.1BTC in that time. So, I mined UNO, then sold some when an exchange started accepting them, sold some more when the price rose and still have about 100 left (the price should rise again after the block reward halves).
Some cryptos have difficulty that fluctuates wildly. You can write a script that switches your miners to it when the difficulty gets low enough, then switch back to BTC once it rises enough to be less profitable than BTC.
Ah, good, thanks for the resources - I was just thinking the other day, 'You know, I spend entirely too much time with my family..."
I, personally, watch very little on the 'big four' networks, however this trend is a disturbing one -- especially for those of us in markets that aren't served by all the networks. My market has no NBC,
I presume by "My market," you're talking about OTA broadcasts? Having only recently discovered the joys of watching Parks and Recreation, I feel for ya.
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You could make exactly the opposite argument with exactly the same evidence (i.e. none): that the decision should be made by someone not at immediate risk of death because they'll be more likely to make the safer-for-others choices and clearly identifying targets rather than making the safer-for-them choices and shooting anything that moves.
Haven't read a whole lot about the US drone program, specifically in Pakistan, have you?
Of course, the issues there are less with the robotics aspect, and more a "using explosives where a scalpel would do" kinda thing.
So how do you program them without said human's intervention? Humans are fallible so all things produced by them are also fallible.
not what i meant. yes, there will be bugs and innocents will be killed. but humans also fallible. that's something we don't need to speculate on. i'd rather have a software engineer coding the rules of engagement in a quiet, calm environment with their peers reviewing and re-reviewing them, adding multiple levels of failsafes, than a soldier that just saw his buddy's brains splattered on the pavement and gun has jammed and has multiple bad guys bearing down on him.
You're either forgetting or ignoring another, very important aspect of humanity - namely, the ability to feel compassion, shame, empathy, etc.
I wouldn't let a machine pet a kitten because machines lack the ability to understand things like pain; why the hell would I want to program them to kill?
What I find entertaining is the Naive thinking these will be used in the theater of war.
They want to use these in the American cities.
My concern precisely.
In the event the feds were to declare some sort of universal martial law, I would much prefer human soldiers to robotic ones.
For starters, two of my brothers are soldiers. They'd sooner go AWOL than murder their own families, or anyone else's. Do robots suffer from that sort of compassionate episode?
One would think that a self-proclaimed "gear head" would know the difference between an oil galley [sic] and a crankcase.
One would think that a smart-ass attempting to mock somebody for using a certain term would have bothered to look said term up before posting, to avoid looking like a jackass.
Properly maintained, the common internal combustion engine can keep going for a very, very long time - I've seen several that passed the half-a-million mile mark, a few of which are still going strong today.
FWIW, and again assuming proper maintenance, your car's engine is one of the least likely parts to fail. Except maybe the floorboards.
So, the idea is that the grooves in the piston will create little eddies of air that separate the combustion chamber from the oil galley, right?
Here's the problem - the air that forms said eddies has to come from somewhere, and there's only two options: the combustion chamber, or the oil galley.
Still, to a gear head such as myself, it's still a pretty cool idea.
Our government vehemently believes it has the right to remove you from your home and incarcerate you with no charges or due process.
Does anyone believe that a government with such a mercurial attitude towards civil liberties wouldn't resort to assassinating citizens who makes a nuisance of themselves?
So you did; I hereby apologize and retract my previous rant.
And some of us will just be stuck on the terrible kerning the ad uses on its font, either way.
Dear Lord, it's all in Comic Sans!!!!
MY EYES! AIIIIIEEEE!!!!
I said i can record what i see and you build a FLIR straw man.
Just because you can't come up with an argument for it, doesn't make it a straw man argument.
Fact is, FLIR cameras are real, people can buy them, they very much can see through solid walls (being IR and all), and it is quite illegal for cops to use them without a warrant. But you seem to think either A) you can use them to spy on people in their own homes with impunity, or B) that the technology doesn't exist (even though it obviously does). Or maybe C) you're just angry and spouting off whatever foam happens to hit your mouth at the moment.
As I said, i believe I have the right to record any spectra my eye can detect, IR and FLIR are not things a normal eye can detect.
So... you don't understand how cameras work, then? Color me not surprised.
Again, I'm not saying this particular guy isn't a moron.
What I'm saying is that when you state such a lofty expectation for behavior in politicians, you pretty much ensure that the only people who will ever qualify for said positions are people who spend their lives being groomed for it. Which leads to political dynasties. Which, IMO, generally suck for the people who aren't part of the aforementioned powerful families.
Actually that is where I read it. It clearly says since the mid '70s.
It also clearly says that, while the levitating is not new, the 3D movement is. Next time, try reading the entire summary before commenting.
Yea, you know what gets me? We went from flight to landing people on celestial bodies in, what, 40 years of aeronautics? Given the same amount of time, 'acoustic levitation' researchers have gone from one speaker to... several... speakers...
WTF, science?
That's hardly professional or mature for an elected official, inside joke or not.
This is a mentality I just can't get down with.
OK, so maybe resigning in Klingon wasn't the best decision he could have made; but, when you start pointing out a certain expectation for the 'professional or mature' attitude of elected officials, you're pretty much assuring that the only people who will fit the bill are the same kind of career politicians that have been fucking things up for your entire life.
You should find out how many of those animals are local, and how many are imported from out of the area or out of state. Many shelters now import dogs to fill their cages. The humane society in Nampa, Idaho actually advertised on Craigslist, wanting to buy puppies so they could resell 'em. (I saw the ad myself.)
Wow - that's fucked up, man.
I decided "FUCK the 'humane' society" a few years ago, when the local Animal Control officer informed me that our HSUS facility puts down more animals than they do.
No, I usually work for one local (no-kill) shelter in particular, because I know the people who run it, they always seem to be just short of what they need to survive, and (here's the selfish part) it's pretty close to my house.
Didn't even bother to look at the 'reasonably prudent' link, did ya?
Personally, I still can't get over the fact that you think roofing a quarter acre of open space is a reasonable suggestion. I guess I can say goodbye to my garden, and grass, and trees...
I believe i have the right
OK, well there's the crux of the issue - you believe you have a right, when you really don't. How does this make you any different than, say, a religious fundamentalist that wants to ban homosexuality, because he believes he has a right to do so?
I believe i have the right to record anything my eye can legally see.
Well, aside the fact that you don't, a video camera sees a lot more than your eye does, such as the IR spectrum. Remember when Sony first came out with the HandyCam, and it was discovered that if you turned on the night-sight during the day, it could see through people's clothing? Do you honestly think you have a right to digitally undress people? Do you think they have the right to do the same to you?
How about FLIR cameras? Those can see right through a solid wall, so when they become cheap enough to be ubiquitous, are you really trying to tell me that you think you have a right to stand in front of someone's house, recording everything they do inside (something the government has decided even they can't do legally, without a warrant)? Think, man.
OK, so it appears you do know what schizophrenia is, but can't distinguish it from good ol' fashioned, regular paranoia.
Take your meds. And maybe a nap, you sound like you could use a nap.
I forget where I read it, but while Honey Boo-Boo is extremely irritating, the mother is extremely responsible with regards to the money the show is bringing in for her child. Its locked up until her child is 18, unlike what the majority of people due with their children's television/movie earnings.
Oh, well, then that makes whoring out your child for personal gain perfectly OK. I guess the childhood obesity isn't really bad, either, the mom is just protecting her from pedos - fat kids are harder to kidnap, right?
"Credit where credit due" sort of thing.
I just did, although we obviously disagree on what they should be getting credit for.
Where in the hell did you get "grown children" from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Yea, I loved how my parents did everything out in the open; made it a heck of a lot easier to work around all those restrictions since I knew what they were.
(This actually isn't true - my parents were smart enough to know better)
"I was hit on the head by a meteorite once, so everyone should always wear hard-hats. By the way, I wasn't actually ever hit on the head by a meteorite."
TL;DR What??
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sarcasm
People nowadays will not bother being inconvenienced unless you have awesome stuff
I take it you don't spend a lot of time in airports?
With all the junk on TV, I'm amazed that Duck Dynasty is what set her off. Good luck to you.
I've actually heard someone bitch about Duck Dynasty and praise Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo in the same sentence.
Reminds me of why I 'cut the cord' half a decade ago.
I disagree with GP and P; this trend is very positive.
How can you disagree with my post, which makes no statements that merit disagreement?
www.coinwarz.com - you input your hashrate and it will calculate which crypto is currently the most profitable (of course, as with everything, you have to use caution).
I managed to earn ~1.8BTC by mining Unobtanium right after it was introduced for a few days. I probably would have mined 0.1BTC in that time. So, I mined UNO, then sold some when an exchange started accepting them, sold some more when the price rose and still have about 100 left (the price should rise again after the block reward halves).
Some cryptos have difficulty that fluctuates wildly. You can write a script that switches your miners to it when the difficulty gets low enough, then switch back to BTC once it rises enough to be less profitable than BTC.
Ah, good, thanks for the resources - I was just thinking the other day, 'You know, I spend entirely too much time with my family..."
I, personally, watch very little on the 'big four' networks, however this trend is a disturbing one -- especially for those of us in markets that aren't served by all the networks. My market has no NBC,
I presume by "My market," you're talking about OTA broadcasts? Having only recently discovered the joys of watching Parks and Recreation, I feel for ya.