...nobody should be compelled to assist them in any way.
Bingo! That's all that needs to be said. Everything else is philosophical masturbation.
I may have said this in the previous story, but I'll repeat it anyway; We should never allow anybody, ever to compel or prohibit speech of any kind, well, maybe, aside from controlling the decibel level, to prevent hearing damage.
WTF are you talking about?? I provided a solution. Abolish the damn secret courts, period. And I even provided a feeble method of doing so. You seem to live in a naive little world where the NSA, secret courts, et al abide by the law. Well, they don't, and nobody is trying to stop them. Regardless, to make any changes at all, the incumbent party (D/R) needs to be removed from power, and that takes informed conscientious voting. Without that, you're just yapping your mouth.
You're 'chipping away' with a paper chisel. It's pure show and no go. You have to start by making this a campaign issue. and then vote against any politician that wants to keep secret courts around. You have to convince the voters that secret courts are the devil's work. Now, since majority rule doesn't work with an ignorant, capricious, fickle majority, it's time to seek out alternatives. As they say, don't start vast projects with half vast ideas.
Well... yeah! That would make sense, wouldn't it? It means they're doing their job competently. The NSA itself existed for a long time before the public ever knew about it at all.
It's a secret court, with a secret oath, to the government and its masters. You won't find a copy of the constitution anywhere in the room, well maybe in the bathroom, on a roll, by the toilet...
Oh please, stop with this 'cut off funding' crap. It's a tear drop in the ocean. Most of NSA and CIA funding comes from the transport and sale of contraband, weapons, drugs, any other 'controlled' substance, and money laundering through the banks. Or do you actually believe that the Iran/Contra hearings put a stop to it? They are rogues in every sense of the word, and now they have the power to keep it going indefinitely.
An emperor, or a wannabe. As long as anybody can draw up a big enough army they will have one.
I don't.
Doesn't matter. You will either live in an empire or its colony. Choose the most benevolent one you can. That's just the way things will stay for the foreseeable future.
Who are we at war with?
Cold or hot, competing empires have been at war throughout all of history, each one replaced by or morphed into another. The natural desire for domination is not going anywhere, and war is its natural state.
...it's still not right for the USA to have done this.
Within the context of war and empire, I'm afraid it is the right thing to do. If you don't stay on the offensive, you will perish in this environment. Thems is jus' simple facts.
I don't know if it's invisible text, or just classified... There must be two 1st amendments, one for the school children and the other for the courts that basically says, "Ignore all that bullshit and lock 'em up."
Shit, the FBI and NSA, et al put the kibosh on that before the damn things hit the streets. Instead they made a law that prohibits the sale of full spectrum scanners to the public, like was supposed to make them secure...
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What, did they land too hard?
And 3oz is, what, just shy of a quarter pound?
With or without cheese?
...nobody should be compelled to assist them in any way.
Bingo! That's all that needs to be said. Everything else is philosophical masturbation.
I may have said this in the previous story, but I'll repeat it anyway; We should never allow anybody, ever to compel or prohibit speech of any kind, well, maybe, aside from controlling the decibel level, to prevent hearing damage.
WTF are you talking about?? I provided a solution. Abolish the damn secret courts, period. And I even provided a feeble method of doing so. You seem to live in a naive little world where the NSA, secret courts, et al abide by the law. Well, they don't, and nobody is trying to stop them. Regardless, to make any changes at all, the incumbent party (D/R) needs to be removed from power, and that takes informed conscientious voting. Without that, you're just yapping your mouth.
You're 'chipping away' with a paper chisel. It's pure show and no go. You have to start by making this a campaign issue. and then vote against any politician that wants to keep secret courts around. You have to convince the voters that secret courts are the devil's work. Now, since majority rule doesn't work with an ignorant, capricious, fickle majority, it's time to seek out alternatives. As they say, don't start vast projects with half vast ideas.
...t's still better than doing nothing.
Ah, you're one of those, eh? Yes, let's play charades. That will make us feel good enough to end any resistance.
It means they have to be able to justify, even if only to a secret court...
No, it doesn't. The secret courts are a rubber stamp and must be abolished unconditionally. We need zero tolerance for this kind of thing.
Statement by Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper...
"What we do not do, as we have said many times, is use our foreign intelligence capabilities to steal the trade secrets..."
Quoting a know liar... You're funny
I know of no such evidence WRT the NSA.
Well... yeah! That would make sense, wouldn't it? It means they're doing their job competently. The NSA itself existed for a long time before the public ever knew about it at all.
Sorry, that's classified. Ask again in 50 years or so, preferably before they burn the tapes.
It's a secret court, with a secret oath, to the government and its masters. You won't find a copy of the constitution anywhere in the room, well maybe in the bathroom, on a roll, by the toilet...
At the end of the ordeal they drove us home... Cops in the US are real bastards.
Really! the gall!
find it hard to believe the back doors are being built into all of these phones.
Why? It's a trivial process... And who cares where the phone is going? One size fits all.
That's not quite working out as well as planned.
But it's not to say we shouldn't do what we can.
Oh please, stop with this 'cut off funding' crap. It's a tear drop in the ocean. Most of NSA and CIA funding comes from the transport and sale of contraband, weapons, drugs, any other 'controlled' substance, and money laundering through the banks. Or do you actually believe that the Iran/Contra hearings put a stop to it? They are rogues in every sense of the word, and now they have the power to keep it going indefinitely.
Too bad the people with the resources to fight it are so cowardly and greedy.
What could possibly go wrong now?
Then "war and empire" are the wrong things to pursue.
Right and wrong are irrelevant. Somebody is always pursuing them. Choose your weapon to defend yourself.
Who wants an empire?
An emperor, or a wannabe. As long as anybody can draw up a big enough army they will have one.
I don't.
Doesn't matter. You will either live in an empire or its colony. Choose the most benevolent one you can. That's just the way things will stay for the foreseeable future.
Who are we at war with?
Cold or hot, competing empires have been at war throughout all of history, each one replaced by or morphed into another. The natural desire for domination is not going anywhere, and war is its natural state.
...it's still not right for the USA to have done this.
Within the context of war and empire, I'm afraid it is the right thing to do. If you don't stay on the offensive, you will perish in this environment. Thems is jus' simple facts.
Hans across the water (water)
Heads across the sky...
I don't know if it's invisible text, or just classified... There must be two 1st amendments, one for the school children and the other for the courts that basically says, "Ignore all that bullshit and lock 'em up."
Shit, the FBI and NSA, et al put the kibosh on that before the damn things hit the streets. Instead they made a law that prohibits the sale of full spectrum scanners to the public, like was supposed to make them secure...
This shows that touch screens are already obsolete...
If everybody did that then maybe they would try to do something to keep people from changing.
Yeah, by tacking on 'start-up' and reconnection fees, or making you sign a long term contract. Problem solved.