My post was not flamebait. I resent the fact that it was marked -1 flamebait.
The problem with moderation is that it oppresses unpopular views.
My Karma is now negative because I expressed an opinion some people didn't agree with. Well, why don't you clever moderators explain how the 3rd Secret of Fatima does, in fact, refer to the assassination attempt. You can't, because the facts have been distorted to a ludicrous level in order to make it "fit". There is no logical connection between the two, only irrationality. Explain why the Catholic church did not protect the pope - you can't because the prophecy was applied to the event after the fact with no substantive logical reasoning.
>The only thing more pathetic than your >praise-baiting is the fact that it apparently >worked. Maybe slashdotters really are as dumb as >they act; they bought your line.
sweeping generalization - many types of people read/. including trolls, scientists, engineers, programmers, students,...
>Exploiting the open source community for WHAT >precisely, fool? To help develop the system?
To spread acceptance, and make it a complete viable system I presume.
> They don't need help with that; the system >is already far ahead of what Linux has achieved, > and in about a third the time.
It could be the greatest system in the world, but if 0 people use it, it is worthless to Lucent other than as a research vehicle.
This is a pretty good move IMO - good for Lucent, good for OS researchers/implementors.
> Here, watch. This'll probably get moderated > up, just because of the following:
> LINUX RULES DUDE! OPEN SOURCE FOREVER!!! DAMN > THE MAN! PROPERTY SUCKS!!! BRING ON THE NEW > SOCIALISM!!! BSD SUCKS!!! COMPANIES SUCK! > METALLICA SUCKS! I LOVE LIMP BIZKIT!!!
please
> Oh, wait, nevermind. I'm not an idiot after > all.
Well, it is possible that you are not an idiot. It is fairly obvious you don't understand or care about licensing issues which are extremely important in this business.
> Ignore all that crap in caps. Apparently a > Slashdot Moron[tm] invaded my head for a second.
Your juvenile insults are not necessary and, in fact, refect poorly on your ability to present a logical/real argument here.
If you have tangible substantive arguments, post them. If you do not, that is your freedom but I will not encourage it.
> Does it bother any of you that you could > easily be replaced by a post bot that would just > regurgitate the same set of five or six > arguments over and over again?
They should have used pgcc, egcc with better flags, or VC++. What flags did they use?
The comparison is totally bogus. I like Alphas, but price/performance is not there. bytemark for unix: http://www.math.vanderbilt.edu/~mayer/linux/bmark. html
Test system Athlon 700, Asus K7M, 384 MB PC133, Cheetah ST318203LW Not overclocked:-)
Reading specs from/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/specs gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
(cut and paste this table to a fixed font editor/term program, sorry but pre doesn't seem to work)
You can see that these scores are better. Dunno about the neural net weirdness - NN blows up and makes the FP index way off. I would expect a KX133 Athlon 850 to outperform my 700. And I'm not using any of the high speed math libraries which would help.
BYTEmark* Native Mode Benchmark ver. 2 (10/95) Index-split by Andrew D. Balsa (11/97) Linux/Unix* port by Uwe F. Mayer (12/96,11/97)
TEST : Iterations/sec. : Old Index : New Index : : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233* --------------------:------------------:-------- -----:------------ NUMERIC SORT : 528.24 : 13.55 : 4.45 STRING SORT : 51.58 : 23.05 : 3.57 BITFIELD : 1.3486e+08 : 23.13 : 4.83 FP EMULATION : 50.599 : 24.28 : 5.60 FOURIER : 8949.6 : 10.18 : 5.72 ASSIGNMENT : 5.0644 : 19.27 : 5.00 IDEA : 1059.3 : 16.20 : 4.81 HUFFMAN : 410.32 : 11.38 : 3.63 NEURAL NET : 15241 : 24483.02 : 10298.45 LU DECOMPOSITION : 354.4 : 18.36 : 13.26 ==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS========================== INTEGER INDEX : 18.045 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 166.002 Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0 ==============================LINUX DATA BELOW=============================== C compiler : gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) libc : unknown version MEMORY INDEX : 4.417 INTEGER INDEX : 4.569 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 92.072 Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38 * Trademarks are property of their respective holder.
Anyone have a KX133 Athlon 850? Please post your scores.
None of the things you bulleted are unique to Christianity.
Christianity is an amalgamation of numerous historical religious myths.
Christianity is the Microsoftian innovator of religions.
Horus of Egypt
Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger42, with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
He was a child teacher in the Temple and was baptized when he was 30 years old.44 Horus was also baptized by "Anup the Baptizer," who becomes "John the Baptist."
He had 12 disciples.
He performed miracles and raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.
He walked on water.
Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.
He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light, the Messiah, God's Anointed Son, the Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God, the Word" etc.
He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the Lamb, Lion and Fish ("Ichthys").
Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father."46
Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One," long before the Christians duplicated the story.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the unscrupulous foreign governments using PSXs for weapons systems be voiding their warranty if they opened the case?
What if an IC burned out or something. There goes a couple hundred bucks down the drain!
My post was not flamebait. I resent the fact that it was marked -1 flamebait.
The problem with moderation is that it oppresses unpopular views.
My Karma is now negative because I expressed an opinion some people didn't agree with. Well, why don't you clever moderators explain how the 3rd Secret of Fatima does, in fact, refer to the assassination attempt. You can't, because the facts have been distorted to a ludicrous level in order to make it "fit". There is no logical connection between the two, only irrationality. Explain why the Catholic church did not protect the pope - you can't because the prophecy was applied to the event after the fact with no substantive logical reasoning.
-pitmaster
>The only thing more pathetic than your >praise-baiting is the fact that it apparently >worked. Maybe slashdotters really are as dumb as >they act; they bought your line.
/. including trolls, scientists, ...
sweeping generalization - many types of
people read
engineers, programmers, students,
>Exploiting the open source community for WHAT
>precisely, fool? To help develop the system?
To spread acceptance, and make it a complete
viable system I presume.
> They don't need help with that; the system
>is already far ahead of what Linux has achieved,
> and in about a third the time.
It could be the greatest system in the world,
but if 0 people use it, it is worthless to
Lucent other than as a research vehicle.
This is a pretty good move IMO - good for Lucent,
good for OS researchers/implementors.
> Here, watch. This'll probably get moderated
> up, just because of the following:
> LINUX RULES DUDE! OPEN SOURCE FOREVER!!! DAMN
> THE MAN! PROPERTY SUCKS!!! BRING ON THE NEW
> SOCIALISM!!! BSD SUCKS!!! COMPANIES SUCK!
> METALLICA SUCKS! I LOVE LIMP BIZKIT!!!
please
> Oh, wait, nevermind. I'm not an idiot after
> all.
Well, it is possible that you are not an idiot.
It is fairly obvious you don't understand or
care about licensing issues which are extremely
important in this business.
> Ignore all that crap in caps. Apparently a
> Slashdot Moron[tm] invaded my head for a second.
Your juvenile insults are not necessary and,
in fact, refect poorly on your ability to
present a logical/real argument here.
If you have tangible substantive arguments, post
them. If you do not, that is your freedom
but I will not encourage it.
> Does it bother any of you that you could
> easily be replaced by a post bot that would just > regurgitate the same set of five or six
> arguments over and over again?
Nobody is forcing you to read them.
They should have used pgcc, egcc with better flags, or VC++. What flags did they use?
. html
:-)
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/specs gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
- -----:------------
The comparison is totally bogus. I like Alphas, but price/performance is not there.
bytemark for unix:
http://www.math.vanderbilt.edu/~mayer/linux/bmark
Test system
Athlon 700, Asus K7M, 384 MB PC133,
Cheetah ST318203LW
Not overclocked
flags:
-s -static -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -mpentiumpro -march=pentiu mpro -malign-functions=4 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -malign-double -fschedule-insns2 -mwide-multiply
Reading specs from
(cut and paste this table to a fixed font editor/term program, sorry but pre doesn't seem to work)
You can see that these scores are better. Dunno about the neural net weirdness - NN blows up and makes the FP index way off. I would expect a KX133 Athlon 850 to outperform my 700. And I'm not using any of the high speed math libraries which would help.
BYTEmark* Native Mode Benchmark ver. 2 (10/95)
Index-split by Andrew D. Balsa (11/97)
Linux/Unix* port by Uwe F. Mayer (12/96,11/97)
TEST : Iterations/sec. : Old Index : New Index
: : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*
--------------------:------------------:-------
NUMERIC SORT : 528.24 : 13.55 : 4.45
STRING SORT : 51.58 : 23.05 : 3.57
BITFIELD : 1.3486e+08 : 23.13 : 4.83
FP EMULATION : 50.599 : 24.28 : 5.60
FOURIER : 8949.6 : 10.18 : 5.72
ASSIGNMENT : 5.0644 : 19.27 : 5.00
IDEA : 1059.3 : 16.20 : 4.81
HUFFMAN : 410.32 : 11.38 : 3.63
NEURAL NET : 15241 : 24483.02 : 10298.45
LU DECOMPOSITION : 354.4 : 18.36 : 13.26
==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS==========================
INTEGER INDEX : 18.045
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 166.002
Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0
==============================LINUX DATA BELOW===============================
C compiler : gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
libc : unknown version
MEMORY INDEX : 4.417
INTEGER INDEX : 4.569
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 92.072
Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38
* Trademarks are property of their respective holder.
Anyone have a KX133 Athlon 850? Please post your scores.
-pitmaster
Christianity is an amalgamation of numerous historical religious myths.
Christianity is the Microsoftian innovator of religions.
Horus of Egypt
- Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger42, with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
- He was a child teacher in the Temple and was baptized when he was 30 years old.44 Horus was also baptized by "Anup the Baptizer," who becomes "John the Baptist."
- He had 12 disciples.
- He performed miracles and raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.
- He walked on water.
- Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
- He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.
- He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light, the Messiah, God's Anointed Son, the Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God, the Word" etc.
- He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the Lamb, Lion and Fish ("Ichthys").
- Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father."46
- Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One," long before the Christians duplicated the story.
reference: http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htmCorrect me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the unscrupulous foreign governments using PSXs for weapons systems be voiding their warranty if they opened the case?
What if an IC burned out or something. There goes a couple hundred bucks down the drain!
-pitmaster