However, the university statement only says BSD Unix files have the clause removed. It's unclear if they X11 files with that clause are included or not.
He points out that Berkeley needs to be asked about this:
* The Regents of the University of California can be contacted about the
contents of xc/programs/Xserver/hw/sunLynx/fbio.h and asked if the
4-clause BSD license still applies to them.
But further not all of these files are under the standard BSD license. But other licenses that are similar but not identical.
The messy truth is that there is code copyrighted by the Regents in
XFree86 under *several* similar but distinct licenses. Some with an
advertising clause, some without. Some GPL-compatible, some not.
Note the text says: No copyright is claimed in the
United States under Title 17, U.S.Code. All Other Rights Reserved.
What they're saying here is that due to Title 17, Section 105 the software is not afforded copyright protection in the United States. However, in other countries it may still have copyright protection afforded to it. As such it still has a copyright notice.
What the heck does relying on your eqipment have to do with the number of pictures you take? You don't learn by taking good pictures. You learn by taking bad pictures, seeing what is wrong with them and then trying again. With film you have to take the picture and then later find out if you did any good. You can't realistically reproduce the exact conditions. So what you've learned is what didn't work. Next time you run into that situation you try what you think should work... oops it's still wrong because you didn't learn from the last time.
The only reliance you can end up with equipment wise is just by not knowing the fundamentals. Which as I pointed out in my previous post, even newer film cameras have lots of new automatic toys that are tempting.
I also find it odd that you think taking lots of pictures is a bad habit of digital people. I'd argue that film people tend to take lots of extra pictures. Why? Because they can't necessarily go back and take the same picture again. If they make a mistake, have bad film, etc... then they're hosed.
Digital people on the other hand can take lots of pictures when learning. Figure out what works and then take fewer pictures as they learn how to take good ones and verify that they are good.
Both systems have their inherent pluses and minuses but your arguments seem to be "Don't use digital because it's not as hard to use as film."
I don't think this is entirely fair to digital. I don't see how taking lots of pictures is a huge impediment to learning. In fact taking lots of pictures is exactly what you need to do.
If your camera has a RAW mode the only processing it will do is white balance. Most of the better digitals will let you adjust your white balance manually. Is it different then film? Yes. But if you're manually adjusting the white balance you're learning.
Digital offers some additional help in learning that you can't get from a film camera.
* Immediate feedback. You can get an idea if the picture you took is under or over exposed.
* The camera keeps track of the settings for you courtesy of EXIF. So when you lose your notebook you've still got the information you need.
* Histograms can be really useful in learning.
I'd agree that the automatic features are tempting to use and hurt your ability to learn the fundamentals. But if you get something reasonably new in a 35mm SLR you're going to find it has those issues too. So this isn't anything specific to digital (though all the digitals have this functionality). Basically, if you want to learn how to shoot good photos you need to learn the fundamentals and that means having some commitment to actually learning them. This is of course not unique to photography but true of most anything.
I will agree that the lense on the Digital Rebel isn't so hot. In fact I wouldn't recommend the Digital Rebel to anyone because you lose some of the flexibility of adjusting the camera how you want. But it's also not like most entry level cameras (which is exactly what the Digital Rebel is) come with great lenses, this is equally true of film camera/lense bundles.
Basically you're ignoring all the benefits of digital to learning. While at the same time critizing it for things that to some degree are equally true of film. That's not to say that digital is a great platform compared to film for learning. I'm just inclined to think you're picking on the wrong issues or at least coming across that way to me.
Right now I'd say there are a couple of fair problems with Digital for beginners:
* Price. A Digital SLR that gives you the flexibility to learn on is expensive. Right now digital cameras that are affordable for most people are probably point and shoots. This price may be traded off by film expenses however. It really depends on how much you plan on using the camera. However, we're starting to see the Digital SLR price drop. My original D30 was about twice as expensive as my 10D which is a better camera. This trend will continue and eventually the price negative will be against film.
* Focal Length Multiplier. Right now just about every digital camera has a smaller sensor than the size of 35mm film. For the Digital Rebel and the 10D this results in a multiplier of 1.6. This means if you want to take wide angle shots you'll need to buy a significantly more expensive lens to achieve the same effect. Say you want a 24mm lense for wide angle (a reasonable starter lense for wide angle work). You'd now have to buy a 15mm lense or shorter to get the same effect. Sooner or later though the multiplier effect will be removed by newer equipment.
* Accurate reproduction after the shot. It's difficult to get a computer and monitor adjusted so it properly reproduces the image you took. Many people really don't bother to do this at all. Which is a problem for digital. Is it your settings on the camera or is it your monitor that's making the shot look wrong? I think as people use computers more and more for digital media awareness and technology will help with this issue.
So right now film is probably the more affordable way to learn. But it has its own trade offs. Film costs, processing costs, having to write down camera settings so you can see what works and doesn't work, lack of immediate feedback, etc...
Frankly either way is fair way to learn. It just takes the committment, effort and the money (equipment and lenses aren't cheap really either way) to do it.
So is my car a robot because it can turn on the lights for me when it gets dark, lock my doors, maintain my speed, etc...
I don't think we saw much labor form HAL. He moved some pods around, opened doors, played chess, killed the crew.
Granted that HAL had a degree of intelligence that my car doesn't. But this isn't the AI Hall of Fame. It's the Robot Hall of Fame.
There are of course a variety of definitions of the term robot. Some of which would include HAL, some which would exclude HAL. Nowhere that I can tell do they define the term. That was my question. It still remains unanswered.
They inducted HAL 9000 which doesn't really seem like much of a robot to me. I mean I guess it can control the functions of the ship. I just never really thought of HAL as a robot.
Not everyone involved in the project is French. Nor do I imagine all of us agree with the stuff on the front of the main page. But as other people have pointed out to you, the site is still up, you just have to click through. So it's not really such a big deal now is it.
I'd point out that the tax that was voted on by the entire state is only in 3 or 4 counties. It seems somewhat of a violation of local control to have 3 or 4 counties being told how to tax by the rest of them... Which really isn't much different than the complaint the above poster had about the whole bridge thing being voted on by counties that wouldn't really be using that bridge...
No you think before posting... The CS models are USB only connectivity models. And the apcupsd people have figured out how to talk to them. And you can read the model number and serial number and a bunch of other stuff off of them.
And I happen to have one of the affected units. [root@stream RPMS]# apcaccess | egrep 'APCMODEL|SERIALNO' SERIALNO : AB0142147520 APCMODEL : Back-UPS 500
As usual slashdot provides the worst URL for the story. The URL in the story is simply the press release. This is their main site about it, has much better information about how to identify if your UPS is part of the recall... and links to a nice FAQ. Of course I'm still wondering what type of unit they will replace mine with.
That's precisely what I ask in the OpEd piece that I had been writing for a while and just finished this morning before this news broke. I've included a lot of details that aren't generally clear without a lot of digging or
without being really active in the Mandrake
community as I myself am.
The cost reduction wouldn't happen. Mandrake doesn't directly run their own mirrors. The mirrors are simply provided by people who want to provide mirrors. Only a couple of mirrors have access to Mandrake's cluster that has the originals on it. All the other site simply get it from those few sites.
Before this news broke I published an OpEd piece on my site this morning about this. This breaking only confirms my belief we should make a break for it.
I had something like this happen once before to me to a cordless phone charging stand that was in my kitchen. Something with sugar in it got underneath the charger and the ants made the charger their home. I'd guess someone left something sweet was around the computer. I haven't seen the comment since Apple's site isn't responding.
I just take the charger apart. Sprayed it with Lysol (yes this will kill ants). Put it in a plastic bag and left it. Next morning lots of dead ants. Then came cleanup followed by lots of drying. I also had to keep spraying for ants until eventually they quit coming back.
However the charger is still working nicely for me.:)
As someone else has already said the 3rd CD is mostly internationalization. It also has some devel packages. But most users probably don't need it.
However there is another reason for the 3rd CD being smaller. The first 2 CDs of the download CD are the same as their standard boxed set. Only the 3rd CD differs. The extra space on the 3rd CD is reserved for commercial apps they can't put on the download CDs but do include in the boxed versions.
Slashdot Mirror
But just to make things clearer here are the links to the advisories:
Subversion
CVS
I also put up a more clear description of the Subversion problem up on subversion site.
Debian Free Software Guidelines
This has probably been reverted to the 3-clause BSD license through the Regents' mass relicensing of such code; see ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.Lic ense.Change
However, the university statement only says BSD Unix files have the clause removed. It's unclear if they X11 files with that clause are included or not.
He points out that Berkeley needs to be asked about this:
* The Regents of the University of California can be contacted about the contents of xc/programs/Xserver/hw/sunLynx/fbio.h and asked if the 4-clause BSD license still applies to them.
But further not all of these files are under the standard BSD license. But other licenses that are similar but not identical.
The messy truth is that there is code copyrighted by the Regents in XFree86 under *several* similar but distinct licenses. Some with an advertising clause, some without. Some GPL-compatible, some not.
You can read his analysis on a thread on debian-legal.
There's also been extensive discussion of the new license on debian-legal. The discussion carries over from Jan into February too.
However other countries still may recognize that the US Government has a copyright in the work.
No copyright is claimed in the United States under Title 17, U.S.Code. All Other Rights Reserved.
What they're saying here is that due to Title 17, Section 105 the software is not afforded copyright protection in the United States. However, in other countries it may still have copyright protection afforded to it. As such it still has a copyright notice.
What the heck does relying on your eqipment have to do with the number of pictures you take? You don't learn by taking good pictures. You learn by taking bad pictures, seeing what is wrong with them and then trying again. With film you have to take the picture and then later find out if you did any good. You can't realistically reproduce the exact conditions. So what you've learned is what didn't work. Next time you run into that situation you try what you think should work... oops it's still wrong because you didn't learn from the last time.
The only reliance you can end up with equipment wise is just by not knowing the fundamentals. Which as I pointed out in my previous post, even newer film cameras have lots of new automatic toys that are tempting.
I also find it odd that you think taking lots of pictures is a bad habit of digital people. I'd argue that film people tend to take lots of extra pictures. Why? Because they can't necessarily go back and take the same picture again. If they make a mistake, have bad film, etc... then they're hosed.
Digital people on the other hand can take lots of pictures when learning. Figure out what works and then take fewer pictures as they learn how to take good ones and verify that they are good.
Both systems have their inherent pluses and minuses but your arguments seem to be "Don't use digital because it's not as hard to use as film."
I don't think this is entirely fair to digital. I don't see how taking lots of pictures is a huge impediment to learning. In fact taking lots of pictures is exactly what you need to do.
If your camera has a RAW mode the only processing it will do is white balance. Most of the better digitals will let you adjust your white balance manually. Is it different then film? Yes. But if you're manually adjusting the white balance you're learning.
Digital offers some additional help in learning that you can't get from a film camera.
* Immediate feedback. You can get an idea if the picture you took is under or over exposed.
* The camera keeps track of the settings for you courtesy of EXIF. So when you lose your notebook you've still got the information you need.
* Histograms can be really useful in learning.
I'd agree that the automatic features are tempting to use and hurt your ability to learn the fundamentals. But if you get something reasonably new in a 35mm SLR you're going to find it has those issues too. So this isn't anything specific to digital (though all the digitals have this functionality). Basically, if you want to learn how to shoot good photos you need to learn the fundamentals and that means having some commitment to actually learning them. This is of course not unique to photography but true of most anything.
I will agree that the lense on the Digital Rebel isn't so hot. In fact I wouldn't recommend the Digital Rebel to anyone because you lose some of the flexibility of adjusting the camera how you want. But it's also not like most entry level cameras (which is exactly what the Digital Rebel is) come with great lenses, this is equally true of film camera/lense bundles.
Basically you're ignoring all the benefits of digital to learning. While at the same time critizing it for things that to some degree are equally true of film. That's not to say that digital is a great platform compared to film for learning. I'm just inclined to think you're picking on the wrong issues or at least coming across that way to me.
Right now I'd say there are a couple of fair problems with Digital for beginners:
* Price. A Digital SLR that gives you the flexibility to learn on is expensive. Right now digital cameras that are affordable for most people are probably point and shoots. This price may be traded off by film expenses however. It really depends on how much you plan on using the camera. However, we're starting to see the Digital SLR price drop. My original D30 was about twice as expensive as my 10D which is a better camera. This trend will continue and eventually the price negative will be against film.
* Focal Length Multiplier. Right now just about every digital camera has a smaller sensor than the size of 35mm film. For the Digital Rebel and the 10D this results in a multiplier of 1.6. This means if you want to take wide angle shots you'll need to buy a significantly more expensive lens to achieve the same effect. Say you want a 24mm lense for wide angle (a reasonable starter lense for wide angle work). You'd now have to buy a 15mm lense or shorter to get the same effect. Sooner or later though the multiplier effect will be removed by newer equipment.
* Accurate reproduction after the shot. It's difficult to get a computer and monitor adjusted so it properly reproduces the image you took. Many people really don't bother to do this at all. Which is a problem for digital. Is it your settings on the camera or is it your monitor that's making the shot look wrong? I think as people use computers more and more for digital media awareness and technology will help with this issue.
So right now film is probably the more affordable way to learn. But it has its own trade offs. Film costs, processing costs, having to write down camera settings so you can see what works and doesn't work, lack of immediate feedback, etc...
Frankly either way is fair way to learn. It just takes the committment, effort and the money (equipment and lenses aren't cheap really either way) to do it.
It was Knight's Automated Roving Robot. Which was KARR, the evil version of KITT. KITT stood for Knight Industries Two Thousand.
One could always argue that HAL wasn't a robot because he didn't do what he was told or programmed to do. :)
So is my car a robot because it can turn on the lights for me when it gets dark, lock my doors, maintain my speed, etc...
I don't think we saw much labor form HAL. He moved some pods around, opened doors, played chess, killed the crew.
Granted that HAL had a degree of intelligence that my car doesn't. But this isn't the AI Hall of Fame. It's the Robot Hall of Fame.
There are of course a variety of definitions of the term robot. Some of which would include HAL, some which would exclude HAL. Nowhere that I can tell do they define the term. That was my question. It still remains unanswered.
Wasn't inducted but they did use a picture of the ASIMO. So they obviously think highly of it.
They inducted HAL 9000 which doesn't really seem like much of a robot to me. I mean I guess it can control the functions of the ship. I just never really thought of HAL as a robot.
Not everyone involved in the project is French. Nor do I imagine all of us agree with the stuff on the front of the main page. But as other people have pointed out to you, the site is still up, you just have to click through. So it's not really such a big deal now is it.
I'd point out that the tax that was voted on by the entire state is only in 3 or 4 counties. It seems somewhat of a violation of local control to have 3 or 4 counties being told how to tax by the rest of them... Which really isn't much different than the complaint the above poster had about the whole bridge thing being voted on by counties that wouldn't really be using that bridge...
Spiffy. I must have missed that option in the documentation.
No you think before posting...
The CS models are USB only connectivity models.
And the apcupsd people have figured out how to talk to them. And you can read the model number and serial number and a bunch of other stuff off of them.
And I happen to have one of the affected units.
[root@stream RPMS]# apcaccess | egrep 'APCMODEL|SERIALNO'
SERIALNO : AB0142147520
APCMODEL : Back-UPS 500
If you have apcupsd setup and the cable hooked up you can use the following command to find out your serial number:
apcaccess | grep SERIALNO
As usual slashdot provides the worst URL for the story. The URL in the story is simply the press release. This is their main site about it, has much better information about how to identify if your UPS is part of the recall... and links to a nice FAQ. Of course I'm still wondering what type of unit they will replace mine with.
You can read the piece here:& day=15&year=2003&t=00
http://ben.reser.org/rants/invisible.cgi?month=01
The cost reduction wouldn't happen. Mandrake doesn't directly run their own mirrors. The mirrors are simply provided by people who want to provide mirrors. Only a couple of mirrors have access to Mandrake's cluster that has the originals on it. All the other site simply get it from those few sites.
The piece is available for viewing here:& day=15&year=2003&t=00
http://ben.reser.org/rants/invisible.cgi?month=01
I had something like this happen once before to me to a cordless phone charging stand that was in my kitchen. Something with sugar in it got underneath the charger and the ants made the charger their home. I'd guess someone left something sweet was around the computer. I haven't seen the comment since Apple's site isn't responding.
:)
I just take the charger apart. Sprayed it with Lysol (yes this will kill ants). Put it in a plastic bag and left it. Next morning lots of dead ants. Then came cleanup followed by lots of drying. I also had to keep spraying for ants
until eventually they quit coming back.
However the charger is still working nicely for me.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m
It looks like they are going to do something different and that it won't be the mailing list. But it hasn't been implemented yet.
As someone else has already said the 3rd CD is mostly internationalization. It also has some devel packages. But most users probably don't need it.
However there is another reason for the 3rd CD being smaller. The first 2 CDs of the download CD are the same as their standard boxed set. Only the 3rd CD differs. The extra space on the 3rd CD is reserved for commercial apps they can't put on the download CDs but do include in the boxed versions.