Here's a good question, one you'll probably despise. Why didn't you pay the Roots for the time they spent entertaining you? They get part of the money for the sales. Why don't you pay their agent who books their shows and makes them appear in public? Why not pay the label that made the recording you heard possible? Why not do all of these things instead of stealing their property? I don't have money to burn either, but I choose to give money to the industry so that it keeps acts like Everclear in silicon. Not to mention the Refreshments, Reel Big Fish and other bands I'm sure you think sold out. But their music is good, so reward them. Personally, I hope the RIAA nails yer ass.
the fact that some organization wants to own a bunch of noise is bullshit. _all_ information is free in my book (well, sensitive info will be witheld until this culture can handle it.)
How bout your social security number? Your Credit Card Number? Your home address and names of all pertinent members living there? Should this information be free as well? The artist who created the groupings of tones and chords and instruments is the owner of the rights. He/She/They choose to sell them to record companies who publish them. Why not give them credit for their work? You'll respond, I give them credit, I spread their name around. Big fscking deal, name recognition is only worth something if they can sell something with it (preferably the music they work very hard to create). I'd love for people to go back to analog too, but we're stuck in a digital millenium now.
I'm not saying the RIAA is always right. But copyright law is pretty obvious, you're allowed to make backup recordings for your own personal use. Therefore, you can say "haha I will make my duplicate recording and to hell with you." But piracy (what Napster is good at) is the issue at hand. BTW- where on the RIAA site did you see that they're trying to remove fair use backups? I looked but your url didn't point me anywhere obvious.
I will agree that suing Napster is ridiculous. However, we need to treat the problem. Suing them might bring back some reality to the internet world. So what if Metallica releases "sub-par" recordings (I, for one, believe that S&M was the most amazing thing I've heard in a good long while), DON'T BUY THEM. Go to their shows instead. Your working for a newspaper doesn't make the laws obvious to you. Nor does it make them absurd because they prevent you from reprinting things without asking others about reprinting their work.
So, I'm affected, but not nearly to the degree to the money machine.
That's correct, you're not affected nearly as bad, but you'd still be pissed if say 1,000 people had gyped you out of.50 each, that's $500. Little numbers add up quickly. To a band that's another gig at a small show. That's enough to replace a guitar or part of a sound board. So, it's still stealing, regardless. Don't make excuses for trespasses.
Yep, they're right too. You STOLE the music from the band. Yes. Stole. You took it without paying the appropriate fees to the band/record company/distributer/promoter. As someone who has worked in the industry, I can confidently say that most of the people don't deserve the cash (i.e. music directors at radio stations shouldnt make a cent) but that doesn't mean it's okay to steal from them. I'm all for selling appropriately priced singles in MP3 format on the web. Go for it, design the architecture, but until then don't use Napster as an excuse to not buy CDs. This why Tower Records and Virgin and millions of other record stores have listening stations.
I don't have a solution, but clinging to out-dated ideas of copyright isn't helping our civilization. I think until there *IS* a solution we cannot leave our own laws regarding intellectualy property. You said you were willing to continue paying for the work of the engineers, band members, roadies, etc by buying their work, so DO so. Don't just cheat them out of a hard earned nickel and copy it. Just because it's an easily transmitted thing doesn't make it less valuable.
They won't be affected? Are you on crack? Aside from the fact that once one of my friends buys the new album, and rips it to MP3 and distributes it to an entire world via FTP/Napster/Gnutella (thanks ABC news for fscking that one up last nite) I no longer need to BUY the CD to hear it. Thus, the band loses the nickel that they might've gotten from their record company (or more if they're smart like Metallica and keep their master tapes). What are the chances that you're friends will all make five copies of a second generation audio tape? What are the chances that they're friends will listen to it and say MY GOD what is wrong with your tape recorder. No one is requiring you to own multiple copies of a CD for home/office use. If you own the recording at home, then your MP3s are legal for work. Have you no clue regarding intellectual property? Just because someone thought it up and brought it into being DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS THEIRS. I swear, some of you people just don't fscking get it.
Probably. But thats b/c of the RIAA. One of the greediest groups around.
So they're greedy, they are protecting the rights that they hold. It's intellectual property. It's just like this: say you have a software program you care about. Let's say you wrote it. Now you find out that instead of people selling it, they're giving it away left and right using Napster. You'd be pissed, simply because they're taking cash from your pocket. Now you understand Metallica. They're greedy because they want to protect their rights? Bullshiznit. Come on, man, get a clue.
Not entirely the case. Rakoff was more interested in someone else (aside from the purchaser) repackaging the product in a form exactly like the original, but without giving the group any real credit for the thing. If you were to do this in your own home, it's a personal copy for backup's sake, if worse comes to worse. As long as you own the original recording, just xfering it to MP3 isn't illegal.
You said: Read it, liked it, a little annoyed at KSR's stock characters and stock subplots (does he have a humongous perl script to generate the requisite love triangle, bitch blonde goddess, facile politico, etc) and isn't James Cameron making a mini-series on it?
Okay, the point of the Mars series wasn't the characters, it was the PLANET. The evolution of the planet itself is what the series is about, not just the individual characters. Read beneath the surface a little. So you can transfer the characters names around in various stories, at least they feel a little more real and fleshed out for you than most modern scifi.
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And anon.penet.fi never really existed right? Hotmail accounts on library terminals really don't exist right? If someone wants it, privacy is available, through dummy accounts, through public terminals, it's all available. Granted these computers have hardware addresses, have IP addresses. It may never have been in the specs or was a considering, but it was still possible. Regardless, it's not myth. Don't act like it's not possible.
Okay, so here's the real deal. Since the beginning of the Info-Era, the anonymonity of the web promised us a place to let our inner most secrets out without accountability, we have tried to keep this feature an integral part of it. Unfortunately, now the government wants everyone to identify themselves fully, so they can psychoanalyze us and find out which one of us is the next UnaBomber. What's next,.sig-ing with our Social Sec #? Privacy is an issue if we want to make it one. In the meantime, we need to be willing to be accountable for our emails. If you don't want the gov't reading them, encrypt them.
To Monica- it's not our fault you didn't want the public to know you gave head to the Pres. It's not our fault it became public information either. But it is YOUR fault you were unwilling to be accountable for your own actions. That's the problem with the web, we have unmitigated freedom to be whoever we want to advertise ourselves as. So, let us protect our communications with crypto, and if we get caught doing something, let's blame ourselves and hold ourselves accountable. In the meantime, let's make the gov't at least have to work to break our crypto.
Sure, let's give them laptops so they can play solitaire during class. Maybe we could port a dumbed down version of Quake or Doom or Half-Life to these laptops for wireless LAN play during class. I can just hear the fragging waiting to happen. Face it, where there is a computer, there is a geek who will bypass the security, overclock the damn thing, and run a wireless Pr0n server from his jr. high school desk. Granted he'll run our lives after graduation, but I'd prefer he learned some history first. Oh, and by the way, thanks to the guy who wrote Solitaire for my eMate so I could goof off in my international studies class last year...
We can't agree on what's acceptable content on the web anymore. The lines are blurry because the cultural and societal norms are different everywhere the Net exists. What might be acceptable in the United States won't work in the UK, or in Japan. What works in Japan won't work here. Perhaps what we need is a universal standard of accountability for netizens. Netiquette is no longer enough to govern things, now that it's okay to wave a lawyer at anybody's ISP when their site might be conceivably defaming your cat, but only if translated into Polish or Portuguese. The only trouble is how we design such a system. We could spend twenty years letting post-modern deconstructionists and contextual modernists argue over what is and isn't acceptable, but that's not going to work either. How do we stop the flow of lawsuits to ISPs and get the individuals to be responsible for their content? Commentary and Discussion, as always, are welcome.
Now while I realize I am not an economics professor at a large Ivy League school, nor do I possess a degree in advanced macro-economics, I am about to grab hold of a degree in political science and music, so take my comment for what you will. Our government is preparing to stand by and do nothing in the face of the biggest trust since standard oil. While I realize breaking the company into pieces could be potentially hazardous to certain investors in the company, it's not hazardous to the industry. But as Neal said in the Cryptonomicon, some little old lady in Kentucky might not get her investment back if the dry goods store goes belly up, and the government gets their panties in a twist. (forgive my paraphrase, please). We shouldn't be afraid of whose money is in our coffers when we have to actually do something that is valuable.
So we're not going to do anything?! Wrong answer. We need to break them up. Open Source their dominant industries, that means Windows, that means Exchange. Break up the company into four areas: Media (MSNBC, MSN Gaming Zone, etc) Software (Office and the Like) Internet (explorer, exchange, outlook etc) and Operating Systems (windoze). While it would be naive to assume that they not partner internally and secretly, at least try and prevent it through due diligence requirements. From there, let them grow and fight over bandwidth, processors, and development architectures. But please god, don't let them stand simply because they have a few well placed bought-out politicians.
What scares me here is the causal link between Reed's clientele. George Dubya and Bill Gates. Money and political power go together better than peanut butter and jelly. Imagine the "Big Brother" style power of an M$/US Gov. alliance. Thoroughly scary. Kiss your anti-trust suit goodbye if they ally. More reason to vote third party...or...god forbid, Al Gore. When will we find a candidate who will actually SERVE us as constituents? I'd rather four more years of Bill than a M$USGov.
While Avid may have the market for postproduction in the Hollywood world, I'd contend that for DV editing, Apple's Final Cut Pro software is some of the best I've used. I've dabbled in Premiere 4, played with some light Avid work (the early mac stuff) but with FCP I feel at home finally.
Okay, so it has a pricetag the average consumer might poop themselves over, but it's worth every penny. I produce medium length (5-20 minute) videos for local campus groups at my university, and I've found that if you've got the cash to shell out for the camera ($1000 and UP!) you can afford a system to go with hit. Primary examples would include ProMax Technologies setups complete for a beginner or some guy with a pro-based background. No, there's not much out there in terms of PC stuff, not unless you want to drop $30k on a system. Granted, a G4 system may run up to $20k, but that will include a WHOLE lot of stuff that's worth your while.
Now while Digital Video is just a fledgling industry, there are some great sites to check out. I highly recommend the 2-pop.com site for questions about ANYTHING related to DV. Another good reference point is ProMax . Don't forget the Apple site for their software (FCP is WAY better than iMovie.
I think that the danger that an M$-style Trust embodies is, "You can't use a computer if you don't want to use our system." Since most of the free information that exists does so on the web and through computers, that's a much more dangerous threat. Now while that is not a danger now, due to the birth of Linux popularity, rebirth of Apple, what have you, it could've been a problem if it had gone unchecked. I'm not real sure this could happen in the Information world. Granted, pop culture (leo, bill clinton, associated idiocy, etc) is a stock of immense trade, hence the Hollywood Stock Exchange and its popularity, not to mention the oodles of websites devoted to worshipping the ground these popculture morons have spat upon, but the point is thus: Specialized information cannot be found at these pop-cul portals. You need someplace, ostensibly like Slashdot, to provide these things. As long as we can prevent the loss of the Slashdots, the 2-pop.coms and other such expert level sites, we're out of the woods and we've done our own anti-trust action. So if you're worried about AOL/TimeWarner, don't buy into their hype. Someone will always be there to disseminate this copyrighted broadcast to the masses.
"and as for depressed people, wll they need to get over it..."
Wow dude, you have never studied Psychology have you? The interesting thing about BiPolar Disorder (Manic Depression as it's sometimes called) is that you could tell someone with BPD they'd won $100 mil in the lottery and that wouldn't mean even short term happiness. It's a complete imbalance in the brain. Looking for God's love is irrelevant there, because in their state of depression they wouldn't be able to even fathom that they were lovable. As for your issue with psychotherapists...you're full of it. Don't deny it. Psychologists save more people than they bankrupt.
When I attended MacWorld this past January at Moscone, the Iomega had several Zip Disk prototype devices. There was a digital camera that wrote to Zip Disk (by Canon I think..) but most impressive was a deck sized player that played MP3s off of said Zip Disk. I bet that a portable wouldn't be far off if/when (the Iomega guy was remarkably tight-lipped about development time/stage) they release the deck version. I was very impressed, it had both digital and analog outs...sounded to me like it was close to primetime...
Exactly the opposite. Good public servants (statesmen and the like, not politicians) should not be required to leave while they still espouse the potential to do good in government. Why tie the hands of those who can get things done. Yes it permits those idiots who buy their way in to continue to do so, but we benefit from those who serve us their entire life. But the point is thus: we elect people to decide certain things for us. We pay them to be experts and to vote the way that best serves their community. We don't pay them to be pollsters, that's gross oversimplification. If we did that, we'd never accomplish anything. We'd all be deadlocked. Government is about compromise. It's about living together, and operating as a society. The plurality does not get the only voice. That's why we allow the minorities to speak (and exist) in our society. Simple. Complex. Either way, it's our system.
OmniGroup (http://www.omnigroup.com) has a good browser called OmniWeb (it's history feature's pretty detailed and they have a beta for OS X (server and DP3). Any other applications for OS X you want you can get from Stepwise.com Look for their software section. Nifty, ain't it?
Just for the record...this is a PC virus only affecting just Intel and AMD chips. Those of us using Motorolas are safe. Perhaps this is a product of the Bill Gates verdict....hmmmm:)
Re:Oh that poor Atari 800 :(
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Aw come on, slashdotting an Atari 800 is almost as much fun as watching BASEketball, and the section about roadkill on tape. It's like this: he put the damn thing up there, why not at least try and overload it. Besides, the smell of an Atari spontaneously combusting is a pleasant one, I've heard.
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How bout your social security number? Your Credit Card Number? Your home address and names of all pertinent members living there? Should this information be free as well? The artist who created the groupings of tones and chords and instruments is the owner of the rights. He/She/They choose to sell them to record companies who publish them. Why not give them credit for their work? You'll respond, I give them credit, I spread their name around. Big fscking deal, name recognition is only worth something if they can sell something with it (preferably the music they work very hard to create). I'd love for people to go back to analog too, but we're stuck in a digital millenium now.
That's correct, you're not affected nearly as bad, but you'd still be pissed if say 1,000 people had gyped you out of .50 each, that's $500. Little numbers add up quickly. To a band that's another gig at a small show. That's enough to replace a guitar or part of a sound board. So, it's still stealing, regardless. Don't make excuses for trespasses.
Yep, they're right too. You STOLE the music from the band. Yes. Stole. You took it without paying the appropriate fees to the band/record company/distributer/promoter. As someone who has worked in the industry, I can confidently say that most of the people don't deserve the cash (i.e. music directors at radio stations shouldnt make a cent) but that doesn't mean it's okay to steal from them. I'm all for selling appropriately priced singles in MP3 format on the web. Go for it, design the architecture, but until then don't use Napster as an excuse to not buy CDs. This why Tower Records and Virgin and millions of other record stores have listening stations.
So they're greedy, they are protecting the rights that they hold. It's intellectual property. It's just like this: say you have a software program you care about. Let's say you wrote it. Now you find out that instead of people selling it, they're giving it away left and right using Napster. You'd be pissed, simply because they're taking cash from your pocket. Now you understand Metallica. They're greedy because they want to protect their rights? Bullshiznit. Come on, man, get a clue.
Okay, the point of the Mars series wasn't the characters, it was the PLANET. The evolution of the planet itself is what the series is about, not just the individual characters. Read beneath the surface a little. So you can transfer the characters names around in various stories, at least they feel a little more real and fleshed out for you than most modern scifi.
And anon.penet.fi never really existed right? Hotmail accounts on library terminals really don't exist right? If someone wants it, privacy is available, through dummy accounts, through public terminals, it's all available. Granted these computers have hardware addresses, have IP addresses. It may never have been in the specs or was a considering, but it was still possible. Regardless, it's not myth. Don't act like it's not possible.
To Monica- it's not our fault you didn't want the public to know you gave head to the Pres. It's not our fault it became public information either. But it is YOUR fault you were unwilling to be accountable for your own actions. That's the problem with the web, we have unmitigated freedom to be whoever we want to advertise ourselves as. So, let us protect our communications with crypto, and if we get caught doing something, let's blame ourselves and hold ourselves accountable. In the meantime, let's make the gov't at least have to work to break our crypto.
Sure, let's give them laptops so they can play solitaire during class. Maybe we could port a dumbed down version of Quake or Doom or Half-Life to these laptops for wireless LAN play during class. I can just hear the fragging waiting to happen. Face it, where there is a computer, there is a geek who will bypass the security, overclock the damn thing, and run a wireless Pr0n server from his jr. high school desk. Granted he'll run our lives after graduation, but I'd prefer he learned some history first. Oh, and by the way, thanks to the guy who wrote Solitaire for my eMate so I could goof off in my international studies class last year...
So we're not going to do anything?! Wrong answer. We need to break them up. Open Source their dominant industries, that means Windows, that means Exchange. Break up the company into four areas: Media (MSNBC, MSN Gaming Zone, etc) Software (Office and the Like) Internet (explorer, exchange, outlook etc) and Operating Systems (windoze). While it would be naive to assume that they not partner internally and secretly, at least try and prevent it through due diligence requirements. From there, let them grow and fight over bandwidth, processors, and development architectures. But please god, don't let them stand simply because they have a few well placed bought-out politicians.
What scares me here is the causal link between Reed's clientele. George Dubya and Bill Gates. Money and political power go together better than peanut butter and jelly. Imagine the "Big Brother" style power of an M$/US Gov. alliance. Thoroughly scary. Kiss your anti-trust suit goodbye if they ally. More reason to vote third party...or...god forbid, Al Gore. When will we find a candidate who will actually SERVE us as constituents? I'd rather four more years of Bill than a M$USGov.
Okay, so it has a pricetag the average consumer might poop themselves over, but it's worth every penny. I produce medium length (5-20 minute) videos for local campus groups at my university, and I've found that if you've got the cash to shell out for the camera ($1000 and UP!) you can afford a system to go with hit. Primary examples would include ProMax Technologies setups complete for a beginner or some guy with a pro-based background. No, there's not much out there in terms of PC stuff, not unless you want to drop $30k on a system. Granted, a G4 system may run up to $20k, but that will include a WHOLE lot of stuff that's worth your while.
Now while Digital Video is just a fledgling industry, there are some great sites to check out. I highly recommend the 2-pop.com site for questions about ANYTHING related to DV. Another good reference point is ProMax . Don't forget the Apple site for their software (FCP is WAY better than iMovie.
Wow dude, you have never studied Psychology have you? The interesting thing about BiPolar Disorder (Manic Depression as it's sometimes called) is that you could tell someone with BPD they'd won $100 mil in the lottery and that wouldn't mean even short term happiness. It's a complete imbalance in the brain. Looking for God's love is irrelevant there, because in their state of depression they wouldn't be able to even fathom that they were lovable. As for your issue with psychotherapists...you're full of it. Don't deny it. Psychologists save more people than they bankrupt.
When I attended MacWorld this past January at Moscone, the Iomega had several Zip Disk prototype devices. There was a digital camera that wrote to Zip Disk (by Canon I think..) but most impressive was a deck sized player that played MP3s off of said Zip Disk. I bet that a portable wouldn't be far off if/when (the Iomega guy was remarkably tight-lipped about development time/stage) they release the deck version. I was very impressed, it had both digital and analog outs...sounded to me like it was close to primetime...
OmniGroup (http://www.omnigroup.com) has a good browser called OmniWeb (it's history feature's pretty detailed and they have a beta for OS X (server and DP3). Any other applications for OS X you want you can get from Stepwise.com Look for their software section. Nifty, ain't it?
Just for the record...this is a PC virus only affecting just Intel and AMD chips. Those of us using Motorolas are safe. Perhaps this is a product of the Bill Gates verdict....hmmmm :)
Aw come on, slashdotting an Atari 800 is almost as much fun as watching BASEketball, and the section about roadkill on tape. It's like this: he put the damn thing up there, why not at least try and overload it. Besides, the smell of an Atari spontaneously combusting is a pleasant one, I've heard.