I'm just wondering if there's any IT personnel who are used to Windows, then migrate to Linux would ever touch the code. At the most they would probably recompile the kernel and installing tarballs.
So far of all the people that I know who had an IT job does not really know how to program.
On the other hand, the real IT pros who knows how to edit code would probably smart enough to at least leave comments in the code, or else how can they debug their code afterwards?
I don't agree to that. I would argue that before one should make a rebuttal, at least they should see the title of the article in question. Appearantly that Mr. Moody does not know that an Operating System with known bugs are better than an Operating System with unknown bugs. The fact of the matter is not about how many bugs an OS has, it is the matter of time spent on fixing the bugs and the time used to patch these bugs by the system adminstrator. As all Linux user knows, open source allows many to look over the code, and possibly spot errors. Also this allow much more developers to think of the solution to such bugs, shortening the time. It had been known that critical bugs are fixed within a day or even a few hours of its discovery, and unparalleled feat by the competition, let it be M$ or Sun or any other OS. But then all the time spent fixing the bugs would be wasted if the system adminstrator does not fix it in time. Moody's article is about security, and saying that a statistic that BugTraq posted comparing to its market share would showthe best operating system on earth is absolutely absurd. Apparently, Moody had the idea of that statistic all around. The more known bugs, the better it is to a system. As indicated above, the more known bugs would mean less unknown bugs within that particular version of software, therefore the user do not need to wait for its developers to make a patch for the software while either suffer downtime or risk an all open attack by an malicious cracker. Personally I would not run the other Unixes as they have lower rates of bug discovery, driving paranoia further. Linux zealots, as Moody indicated in his article, insist that Linux would run forever and a lot less prone to crash is true, while he, possibly have no experience with the OS, argues that this is a bad thing. Geez, I wonder who funded him to write this article. I've been running my Linux box as non-stop as I can (i do share a computer with a windows-only user, therefore it cannot be on Linux every day), and it does not present problems if I ever put Windows under the same situation. Resources would start draining until they're all gone and the system will hang, sooner or later. I do know why Moody was arguing that the system would not crash as such a system is utopian and would not happen. But the fact of the matter is if one crashes under Linux, it is not going to bring the whole operating system to a halt and reboot. This is completely not true for the "competition's" offerings. Moody's argument for Linux is the worst operating system is lack of support and subjective, as his misinterpretation of BugTraq's statistic shows. Even I, as an Grade 12 English student (not to mention I'm not native English) am taught to propose an arguement with solid supports. Moody should have run both system himself and learn the strength and weakness before he put up an argument. An columnist, such as Moody, put up an haphazardly supported argument is such a shame.
You're example is damn hell true. For the ongoing war, they seems not to get that information is going to be free, rather if they put up against it or not. I mean we're tracked everyday and we "steal" (in their words) singer's music everyday. The death of Napster would not matter because they cannot shut down all the other sources. C'mon people, accept the fact that there's no way to prevent anyone from sharing music! Also some legal bullshit, you cannot save lyrics on your computer! If anyone know lyrics.ch, they used to be a searchable server that gives lyrics in plain text and now they're with that java BS that scrolls way too fast and prevents you from saving it on computer. I mean, what the hell is the media trying to do? To so call protect the artists (BTW many didn't make up their songs anyways, so technically they should be called singers IMO)? If they want to do it like that, then I'll just not buy any CDs. It would be great if all the napster users stop buying CDs for these blood sucking money hogging media companies and artists.
Heck yeah. If I cannot post something on slashdot just to express my opinion just because of some BS software giant is preventing me from doing that, I'll sue him for preventing me from exercize my right of free speech. Besides, the disclaimer here is that our opinions as a reader is not associated with us, so why not M$ ask us with permission first to remove the posts?
If you flip around ZDNet's computer magazines, you'd only find that AMD's Athlon is not so better when AMD got the 6?? MHz chip and PIII only marginally slower, while they didn't mention loudly that what they're talking about is the expensive server oriented Xeon PIII. Or a recent article about Linux not ready for the desktop, while I basically perform all the tasks that I do with W95 and more (how about serving friends mp3 as a FTP server by default from install?) I don't think ZDNet is clueless, it's more like ZDNet spreading propaganda. Most likely they're backed by Wintel and AOL and such. My opinions, if I'm wrong I apologize. Calyth
I think that's a blind spot thing because you'll find the white dots are gradually fade to gray from your point of focus, and if you put your head close enough to the monitor, they don't work. Kinda like that dot and a X thing that I used to do in Elementary
I've been wondering why when I started my little thread with what I see in High School (I'll mention that next time I'll post, I don't like having a bunch of female programmers semi-flaming me.), the rebuttals are extreme! First, read the wording. I do apologize that I use Most as the generalization for girls that goes online, but I never said all. I know that female pros do exist, but it's not very common among all the people that I know, except that my friend's mome is a sysadmin. I'm very happy to see women in the field of computers, and I'm not the kinda guy who says male rules (I may have an incline toward that way, but hey, who's completely neutral on something?) I don't know why I'm starting to get "Anonymous Cowards" start stuffing things into my mouth, which I didn't said, or at least not in the same magnitude. I may have forgotten to remember, but the person why defined bug in computers is a female who found a moth in the printer, right? The things that I see among the female users at wher I am (BC, Canada), an high school, is that I don't really find girls at the lower age group defined in the original article interested in computer tech. Everything has an exception, and there are female programming pros, linux pros (I haven't encouter one, but I believe there's one out here, if you're one, send me a pic,hehe =). But my point is that in my local area of all the girls that I've encountered, none of they are obsessed with technology, or at least have advanced knowledge compared to others. And that was the point. I don't find any in my IT 12 class, and I can see some in my CCNA course, but they're not having extremely well progress and frequently asked questions.
I do wish to see some more girls interested in computers, cause I don't like the situation in Silicon Valley.. there's too much guys there.
Again, refer to my "rephrasing" I should have said that I'm refering to the lower age groups. I know there are certain female pros out there who exist, but somewhat spotty. I've always wonder if females in general is not interested in technical stuff (some do, don't flame me on this one, som do). Slashdot need an age group in the user preference, I'm not that old! That's the reason why I cannot find the female pros out there as easily as those of you who're in computer tech companies.
Actually I'm not the stereotyping that you're talking about. In fact, I'm happy to see female tech support on the phone, as long as they're helpful and get me out of trouble (Don't expect me to be able to solve every problem on the face of the earth) Well you call what I said was stereotyping, and isn't yours as bad as mine? I might be stuck in a job that I don't want (not McDonalds), but if I do come across a femae who built a design company, I'm more than happy to see that happening. Maybe if you stop stereotyping guys who commented on girls like I did, then they might come across some female computer pros and stop commenting them that way.
Well maybe I should say some women, ranging 13-20 (or higher, depends) do go to those kinda sites. Maybe I haven't look at the right places, but you don't see lots of female tech around. (Well occasionally I do hear them on the phone) I think I forgot to mention that the girls in linuxchix.org is probably way better on Linux than I do.. I'm still a newbie *sob sob....* You can sure call that stereotyping, but heck, that's what I find in the lower range group. Most ladies in that age group that I know doesn't even know the control panel in Windows well, not to mention Linux. Whenever I mention that they seem to be scared.... See what I'm saying here. (For those of you who don't look at BSB sites and are good tech girls, please forgive and forget my comments)
Well, most of the girls in that 13-30 age group are looking sites about N'SYNC (or BSB, whatever they like) and gossip about their lifes and chat about those horrible groups. Maybe this is the main reason why I haven't see some female computer pros. They can live with Windows and their fan sites and ICQ (or AOL for that matter) Admit it ladies, I'm not trying to be dominant as a guy here, but I haven't blown away by females in computer field. Happy to be corrected, but Mad to be bombed.......
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I'm just wondering if there's any IT personnel who are used to Windows, then migrate to Linux would ever touch the code. At the most they would probably recompile the kernel and installing tarballs.
So far of all the people that I know who had an IT job does not really know how to program.
On the other hand, the real IT pros who knows how to edit code would probably smart enough to at least leave comments in the code, or else how can they debug their code afterwards?
I don't agree to that. I would argue that before one should make a rebuttal, at least they should see the title of the article in question. Appearantly that Mr. Moody does not know that an Operating System with known bugs are better than an Operating System with unknown bugs. The fact of the matter is not about how many bugs an OS has, it is the matter of time spent on fixing the bugs and the time used to patch these bugs by the system adminstrator. As all Linux user knows, open source allows many to look over the code, and possibly spot errors. Also this allow much more developers to think of the solution to such bugs, shortening the time. It had been known that critical bugs are fixed within a day or even a few hours of its discovery, and unparalleled feat by the competition, let it be M$ or Sun or any other OS. But then all the time spent fixing the bugs would be wasted if the system adminstrator does not fix it in time. Moody's article is about security, and saying that a statistic that BugTraq posted comparing to its market share would showthe best operating system on earth is absolutely absurd. Apparently, Moody had the idea of that statistic all around. The more known bugs, the better it is to a system. As indicated above, the more known bugs would mean less unknown bugs within that particular version of software, therefore the user do not need to wait for its developers to make a patch for the software while either suffer downtime or risk an all open attack by an malicious cracker. Personally I would not run the other Unixes as they have lower rates of bug discovery, driving paranoia further. Linux zealots, as Moody indicated in his article, insist that Linux would run forever and a lot less prone to crash is true, while he, possibly have no experience with the OS, argues that this is a bad thing. Geez, I wonder who funded him to write this article. I've been running my Linux box as non-stop as I can (i do share a computer with a windows-only user, therefore it cannot be on Linux every day), and it does not present problems if I ever put Windows under the same situation. Resources would start draining until they're all gone and the system will hang, sooner or later. I do know why Moody was arguing that the system would not crash as such a system is utopian and would not happen. But the fact of the matter is if one crashes under Linux, it is not going to bring the whole operating system to a halt and reboot. This is completely not true for the "competition's" offerings. Moody's argument for Linux is the worst operating system is lack of support and subjective, as his misinterpretation of BugTraq's statistic shows. Even I, as an Grade 12 English student (not to mention I'm not native English) am taught to propose an arguement with solid supports. Moody should have run both system himself and learn the strength and weakness before he put up an argument. An columnist, such as Moody, put up an haphazardly supported argument is such a shame.
You're example is damn hell true. For the ongoing war, they seems not to get that information is going to be free, rather if they put up against it or not. I mean we're tracked everyday and we "steal" (in their words) singer's music everyday. The death of Napster would not matter because they cannot shut down all the other sources. C'mon people, accept the fact that there's no way to prevent anyone from sharing music! Also some legal bullshit, you cannot save lyrics on your computer! If anyone know lyrics.ch, they used to be a searchable server that gives lyrics in plain text and now they're with that java BS that scrolls way too fast and prevents you from saving it on computer. I mean, what the hell is the media trying to do? To so call protect the artists (BTW many didn't make up their songs anyways, so technically they should be called singers IMO)? If they want to do it like that, then I'll just not buy any CDs. It would be great if all the napster users stop buying CDs for these blood sucking money hogging media companies and artists.
Heck yeah. If I cannot post something on slashdot just to express my opinion just because of some BS software giant is preventing me from doing that, I'll sue him for preventing me from exercize my right of free speech. Besides, the disclaimer here is that our opinions as a reader is not associated with us, so why not M$ ask us with permission first to remove the posts?
If you flip around ZDNet's computer magazines, you'd only find that AMD's Athlon is not so better when AMD got the 6?? MHz chip and PIII only marginally slower, while they didn't mention loudly that what they're talking about is the expensive server oriented Xeon PIII. Or a recent article about Linux not ready for the desktop, while I basically perform all the tasks that I do with W95 and more (how about serving friends mp3 as a FTP server by default from install?) I don't think ZDNet is clueless, it's more like ZDNet spreading propaganda. Most likely they're backed by Wintel and AOL and such. My opinions, if I'm wrong I apologize. Calyth
I think that's a blind spot thing because you'll find the white dots are gradually fade to gray from your point of focus, and if you put your head close enough to the monitor, they don't work. Kinda like that dot and a X thing that I used to do in Elementary
I've been wondering why when I started my little thread with what I see in High School (I'll mention that next time I'll post, I don't like having a bunch of female programmers semi-flaming me.), the rebuttals are extreme!
First, read the wording. I do apologize that I use Most as the generalization for girls that goes online, but I never said all. I know that female pros do exist, but it's not very common among all the people that I know, except that my friend's mome is a sysadmin. I'm very happy to see women in the field of computers, and I'm not the kinda guy who says male rules (I may have an incline toward that way, but hey, who's completely neutral on something?) I don't know why I'm starting to get "Anonymous Cowards" start stuffing things into my mouth, which I didn't said, or at least not in the same magnitude.
I may have forgotten to remember, but the person why defined bug in computers is a female who found a moth in the printer, right?
The things that I see among the female users at wher I am (BC, Canada), an high school, is that I don't really find girls at the lower age group defined in the original article interested in computer tech. Everything has an exception, and there are female programming pros, linux pros (I haven't encouter one, but I believe there's one out here, if you're one, send me a pic,hehe =). But my point is that in my local area of all the girls that I've encountered, none of they are obsessed with technology, or at least have advanced knowledge compared to others. And that was the point.
I don't find any in my IT 12 class, and I can see some in my CCNA course, but they're not having extremely well progress and frequently asked questions.
I do wish to see some more girls interested in computers, cause I don't like the situation in Silicon Valley.. there's too much guys there.
Again, refer to my "rephrasing" I should have said that I'm refering to the lower age groups. I know there are certain female pros out there who exist, but somewhat spotty. I've always wonder if females in general is not interested in technical stuff (some do, don't flame me on this one, som do). Slashdot need an age group in the user preference, I'm not that old! That's the reason why I cannot find the female pros out there as easily as those of you who're in computer tech companies.
Actually I'm not the stereotyping that you're talking about. In fact, I'm happy to see female tech support on the phone, as long as they're helpful and get me out of trouble (Don't expect me to be able to solve every problem on the face of the earth) Well you call what I said was stereotyping, and isn't yours as bad as mine? I might be stuck in a job that I don't want (not McDonalds), but if I do come across a femae who built a design company, I'm more than happy to see that happening. Maybe if you stop stereotyping guys who commented on girls like I did, then they might come across some female computer pros and stop commenting them that way.
Well maybe I should say some women, ranging 13-20 (or higher, depends) do go to those kinda sites. Maybe I haven't look at the right places, but you don't see lots of female tech around. (Well occasionally I do hear them on the phone)
I think I forgot to mention that the girls in linuxchix.org is probably way better on Linux than I do.. I'm still a newbie *sob sob....*
You can sure call that stereotyping, but heck, that's what I find in the lower range group. Most ladies in that age group that I know doesn't even know the control panel in Windows well, not to mention Linux. Whenever I mention that they seem to be scared.... See what I'm saying here.
(For those of you who don't look at BSB sites and are good tech girls, please forgive and forget my comments)
Well, most of the girls in that 13-30 age group are looking sites about N'SYNC (or BSB, whatever they like) and gossip about their lifes and chat about those horrible groups. Maybe this is the main reason why I haven't see some female computer pros. They can live with Windows and their fan sites and ICQ (or AOL for that matter) Admit it ladies, I'm not trying to be dominant as a guy here, but I haven't blown away by females in computer field. Happy to be corrected, but Mad to be bombed.......