This is what's called a hobby. It's considered perfectly healthy and even recommended by psychiatric professionals for people who do nothing but sit around at home and wallow, or are singularly focused on their careers.
Those of you who say this guy needs to get a life or has too much time on his hands are just jealous because you haven't done anything this neat with your lives.
You can deny it, but when we get down to it really it's the heart of the matter.
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
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The gun manufacturers are not being sued for/making/ guns. They are being sued for/purposely/ and/knowingly/ putting the guns into the hands of criminals buy flooding the market with significantly more guns than there would be legit buyers, making it easy to go down the street and buy one.
Just like saying tobacco companies are being sued for the stupid choices the smokers make is BS. If tobacco wouldn't predatorily market to children and teens, pump extra nicotine in and deny it and play all sorts of other tricks and just sell straight tobacco they would have no problems. And if the gun makers just made guns and let them be used for what they would instead of trying to get them to criminals in order to sell more, they would have no problems.
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Moral of the story: provided you have nothing to lose, you can turn corporate bully techniques against them. For a year or two, anyway - only lawyers remember it now.
With the one word standing out in memory, McLibel, this sounds a lot worse on the McDonalds side of things than it actually was, given the rest of the story. If more than the lawyers remembered the details it wouldn't sound as bad for them as it does with just that word.
I'll probably remember the word McLibel for the rest of my life (now that you've mentioned it here) but forget what it means, just thinking that it sounds bad and probably involves McDonald's.
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That way you get your undocumented modifications already included!!
Of course financial folk would go for this--that way you don't have to pay for your people to make the undocumented changes. Never mind the cost of the OS.
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They call it a copy/right/, but in the U.S. at least provisions for copyright (and patent) protection are granted to congress by the constitution in order "to promote the progress of science and useful arts," which pretty much means you have an obligation to continue using your exclusive right to progress or you should lose it. Just like if you fail to enforce your copyright or especially your trademark you could lose the right to enforce it.
Now sure, they say that not being able to copy Word 2.0 forces us to buy word2k but there are plenty of other alternatives. Like WordPerfect, does MS get a copyright on them all of a sudden because they might keep their software from advancing? I'm as likely to use a free word processor (and if you doubt me, there/are/ some out there) as I am to use Word 2.0 or WP 3.0 anyways--except that I already own multiple legits of WP 3 so that copying isn't an issue--so how can they argue that losing copyright on their abandonware will undercut sales of their advancing stuff?
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DNA based computers might be much more sensitive to the effects of radiation, or other mutagenic factors. I can just see the label on the computer, " Caution, the hacker general has determined that smoking causes crashes ".
Hmm, I don't know but I'm pretty sure this is only a problem during self-replication of DNA. People grow new cells a lot (and that's why we're so mutation/carcinogen prone) but your computer shouldn't be making any new DNA structures; any that are going to exist are going to be made at the factory, which is the only place they need to really worry about radiation/carcinogens/etc.
I would be concerned about the possibility of your computer infecting you with a biologically active virus....
There is/no/ way this could happen. As one other person who responded to you pointed out, who ironically had score 1 even tho' he raised better (more insightful?) points than yours, viruses can't even cross-infect from one/species/ to another. However, the danger of viruses spreading from computer to computer of this design would be heightened because they would operate on the molecular level rather than the code level. Of course because the computing components are just structures and not cells with any way of replicating the virus would rely on the code level for replication but could infect on the molecular level. Yeah, something like that; wait till the stuff actually comes out, then I'll design one, work this stuff out. For educational purposes only, of course.
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Okay, I've got an idea, a sort of hybrid thing of what you've been talking about.
People are saying this is an impractical idea for a number of reasons, such as it's a pain to reboot, what platforms to support etc. But since we're talking about putting a boot sector on a CD, we've got a new option: Put a bootable, minimal games-oriented linux kernel on the CD, along with the game and drivers/libs needed to play it. Now, linux users who want to use the game can just put it in after boot and install the game on their HD. Non-linux (or linux who don't mind rebooting) users with a standard spec pc could just put in the CD and reboot. If they use windows they should be used to it.
This allows games to be developed for linux (or any other pc os) and have the audience of windows (or any other pc os) users. Most exclusive windows users I know don't run any other tasks concurrently with playing their "cool games" (i.e. stuff other than mah-jong/solitaire/minesweeper that you might do while downloading or chatting) aside from the regular background stuff that starts up with windows. Nor would they mind a reboot for a particularly cool game. And when Quake 4 shows stunningly better performance than Unreal 2 Tournament after the former is released like this and the latter as a standard windows game, they will definitely prefer the higher performance.
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There's something called small-claims court. That's where you take a $10+court costs suit. It's impossible for that type of suit to "hog time" from a malpractice suit.
Joe Blow the average computer user doesn't need to be able to get past IP spoofing and rerouting. Are you insinuating that there are no computer-savvy people in the entire state of Colorado? There are enough people there that are knowledgeable enough to trace spam back to the U.S., dedicated enough to stop it, and who get spam that sooner or later one of them will be hit by something originating from Colorado. All it takes is a couple suits, and really, how expensive are a couple small claims suits? Remember this is not the same court in which doctors are sued for malpractice (or OJs for wrongful death, whatever). Then all spam from that state could shut down.
Furthermore, IANAL but you could probably sue somebody from any state for spamming you in Colorado if you tracked them to the U.S.
Not sure on this though.
BTW, don't most businesses identify themselves in their spam, because it is after all for advertisement purposes, no? So wouldn't you know where they were no matter how re-routed and spoofed they were?
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Opera is obviously manufactued by the NSA. Who else but the U.S. government would charge for what others consider to be free?
Well, most of us would figure it'd be free to not put a company's software on your machines but evidently microsoft thinks there should be a charge for that too.
The U.S. government isn't allowed to charge for software anyway, to my knowledge anything authored by a government program they have to release to the public or keep to themselves. (I read something like that in the license of some government produced software. we're not allowed to charge each other for it either tho')
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Exactly. I know this place which makes fake IDs identical to real ones complete with the holograms except for one minor detail, and they are a registered business. That is their sole source of revenue and it's legal because a) it doesn't say "Driver's License" in the same place a real one says "Driver's License" and b) they are required to come with a sticker saying something about how it's just a novelty for entertainment only. Or some crap. Yeah, right. They know people are going to peel those off and cover up the place where the words "Driver's License" should be and use them illegally, but that's not their fault. It's your problem if you do that, you're the one breaking the law if you peel the sticker and pretend to be 21, not them.
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Napster wasn't shut down because it did anything illegal, it was shut down because in fervantly protection free speech, it failed to provide a reasonable system through which someone could request the removal of material that was harmful to them.
Sorry, that just isn't true. If it were, then email, irc, usenet and the web would all have to be shut down. To go to your example, I could post bombmaking instructions to any of them without being permanently removed. I could be using an anonymous remailer for three of them and for irc, they could ban my IP from the server but I would probably be at the library and could just go to one of the other myriad libraries in the area. Or I could take advantage of the fact that my ISP uses dynamic IPs and use a diff. username each time, but then I risk getting reported and tracked so I would prob. do the library thing. Napster was actually the/easiest/ protocol to deal with individual users on who were acting up. So you see any of these four major protocols is worse than napster. Napster was shut down because it's/primary purpose/ was exchange of mp3's, a majority of which were copyrighted, a majority of those by RIAA clients.
BTW photos can't be put up on Napster. have you ever even used the fscking service on which you are commenting? You can put mp3's in your directory for d/l and there are chat channels where you can type stuff. That's it. IRC is 100x more dangerous. Also if you didn't notice large numbers of ppl w/ mettalica songs were systematically removed from the system at one point. How hard would it be to do that to people doling out credit card numbers, as well as logging their IP to report to their provider? You can't hide behind a wall of anonymity with napster, at least not without being seriously being traceable, the way you can with other protocols. So then the law tracks them down and prosecutes them. Whereas we know of people distributing credit card numbers elsewhere online who haven't been caught.
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Most people I know don't give a shit about piracy. They install illegit copies of software off discs they borrowed from friends and only buy things that require a CD to run (if they're not clever enough to crack) or if nobody they know has it. We're not just talking kids here, we're talking people in their forties even and up I know who do this. That's the majority of people I know. Sure, most of them pay lip-service to the whole anti-piracy idea but just do it anyway. (just like they all pay lip-service to speed limits but are almost always 10 over) Now if an entire protocol were squashed which has myriad legit uses (i.e. searching gnutella for hack103.zip, a free program, is much easier than searching the web) in the name of stopping an illegal activity most of us do anyway, there would be considerable outrage. It would be like illegalizing the web to stop porn, or outlawing usenet to stop hate groups, or outlawing SMTP/POP to prevent conspiracies and bombing plots and such via email. After all if they're going to argue that gnutella is intended to flout copyright then the web must have been intended for porn, usenet must have been intended for spewing hate messages and email must have been intended for secretly planning violent activity by that same logic, right?
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Triple digit!?
Gosh, I still haven't gotten past/3/ in the four or five months I've been on. And I've posted some pretty profound stuff too.
Oh well, at least I got moderator access twice in the last two weeks. ( but the first time I didn't use it and let the 3 days run out, 'cus I was too busy posting in all the good discussions )
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Simmah down now!! Jesus fucking christ!!
No, it's not stealing. If I take a recording from an artist, that's stealing. If I re-record an artist's work off of a recording I bought from them, that's no more stealing than repeating the spoken word of a famous person to a friend. They're an artist, right? They worked out those words, and they gotta make a living! What fucking right do I have to steal!! For that matter, what fucking right do I have to even hear the words spoken? That's right, It's my goddamn responsibility to make sure I've paid before I hear a "name" celebrity speak because "artists have a right to control the use of their work".
I'm sorry, but once it's out there, it's out there. If you let loose with something you can't control it, except with shrink-wrap contracts. Don't like it? Don't publish your work. Most recognized "great" artists from another genre, the one most associated w/ the term "artist", don't. You ever think maybe if musicians didn't ever duplicate recordings the really good ones could sell their unduplicated masters for a mint? Then they don't have to worry who makes what, it isn't their problem. Or get them under contract, easier to control just one person. Like you see prints made and sold of paintings but if it's somebody real famous they're pretty much all posthumous. Same thing.
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If you like the sound of say, a rabid cat howling on a fence late at night, you'll love her stuff.
Are you kidding? I made a bootleg recording of the neighborhood rabid cat posse howling in the alley outside my window and play it every night to go to sleep! (yes, it's now considered bootleg. The lead howler somehow got signed to a big 5 label, hired a lawyer, claimed that it was a live performance and took me to court in order to confiscate my recording)
(then I met with the cat and his lawyer and pointed out that cats couldn't enter into legally binding contracts or own property, intellectual or otherwise, so the label could claim ownership of the cats' material if they figured this out; I proceeded to hold this over his head until he handed (pawed?) my tape back)
End of story
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(anymore) but most of the artists I hear on "alternative" radio are signed to major labels and I can't tell which ones aren't?
What about wierd al? I like him, he hasn't been on MTV in/quite/ a while and when we was it was almost always late at night. (I don't hear him on radio either ftm) He recently spoke out in favor of Napster, and even, specifically/his/ music being on it on the theory that it sells more CDs. But is volcano records in RIAA? It never says on the CD case but I thought I heard somewhere it was part of universal or warner or something, and they have the usual cut&paste "don't bloody copy this CD" legalese printed on it. So that doesn't help at all, back to square one.
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It (potentially) only takes a single employee to monitor all people in the nation, provided they are fluent with computers and they aren't monitoring them all simultaneously, only adding files and switching back and forth to whoever is the biggest priority (percieved "threat") at a given time. Most of it is automated, with word and pattern searching you don't need to/read/ the bloody emails 'til you find something importnant. That's the point. Somebody pointed out here that they don't care about you're next week's shopping list. Bull caca!! They could know where you are at any moment, based on past communications and inferences, and how predictible a person you are. They are known to keep track of people who purchase "suspicious" items in case an odd crime comes up to which that can be linked,(like say a building blows up in my town and I just bought two large bags of fertilizer online three months ago;they'll knock down my door first, probably arrest me just on that) and are also known to keep track of people's political views in order to trail essentially the unpopular ones (they call them ones with "criminal associations" but we know that's bull)
Just to make the point, how many pedophiles has the FBI put away in the past couple decades? How many serial killers? And how many political dissidents? They care about all of us, they watch all of us, no that does not take immense resources, and yes we all have something to fear. The bureau is a menace, they are not "The Good Guys" because they are at the point where they are attempting to mandate how we think. In a democracy that is wrong, and the first step to restoring the US from so-called democracy status to democracy status is to remove the FBI menace.
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Yes, "move all files beginning with 'a' to 'foo'" would be preferable to "move a* foo" because the latter is ambiguous, e.g., is that "move a * foo"? The standard Unix semantics are far too ambiguous when it comes to the command line.
Too bad there isn't a mod down for (Stupid) cause I would've been tempted to use it here, but I had to settle for posting instead. "mv a* foo" is not ambiguous. It is not "mv a * foo". "a*" represents a single filename inclusive of all files in pwd starting with "a". The only reason to expand the a* with whitespace would be if you were speaking it which you wouldn't be because the guy asked about typing, plus it only takes a fairly simple AI to figure out stuff like that and put 2 & 2 together. "mv a * foo" makes no sense, therefore we meant "mv a* foo". I could write that sophistication of parser myself. Natural language is what's ambiguous, to give an example from below: Like removing a directory called "root". You could say "remove all from root" which could translate to "rm -rf/" and "rm -rf root". Both "/" and "root" are called "root" in nat-lang. Saying "remove all from root" could wipe your entire filesystem, and you couldn't use my above parser trick because "rm -rf/" is perfectly legal and non-redundant and "mv * a foo" isn't. There are many perfectly valid reasons why you might want to wipe the entire mounted volume and it isn't the computer's business assuming what you want to do. So nat-lang is what's hopelessly ambiguous and the command line, in any form, is what's just fine.
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The other distros are hopelessly out of date. You can auto-d/l all relevant packages after just installing the base system. Or you could auto d/l all packages into an archive diretory leaving them compressed until such time as you need to install them, selecting the ones you need using the fancy semi-graphical package manager interface. Or you could make an ISO image of the contents of that directory and once you burned a CD you could delete it all.
You can also have it update automatically the day a new version of your favorite package comes out, but you don't care about the convenient features, you prefer the ones that tie you down so never mind.
But yes, they do provide images of the "official" distribution cd. I'm not sure where on which part of which site but I am 100% certain I read in their official documentiation on debian.org under "how do I get debian" that they provide cd images. Vendors also custom mix their own debian cds to sell too from packages but they do have imags they provide.
Also bear in mind there is much more to the world than just you. I have installed more debian systems from floppy than from the CD set that I bought. I can't see how the point of the distro would be not to have to d/l the packages--if it weren't for the distro, there would be no packages to download! Most of the installs I've done there was no CD drive available and so after the ten-floppy base set was installed I let it loose on the modem and the whiz-bang package installer went and got everything else I'd picked off its list while I was away.
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This is what's called a hobby. It's considered perfectly healthy and even recommended by psychiatric professionals for people who do nothing but sit around at home and wallow, or are singularly focused on their careers.
Those of you who say this guy needs to get a life or has too much time on his hands are just jealous because you haven't done anything this neat with your lives.
You can deny it, but when we get down to it really it's the heart of the matter.
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Pay attention before you post.
/making/ guns. They are being sued for /purposely/ and /knowingly/ putting the guns into the hands of criminals buy flooding the market with significantly more guns than there would be legit buyers, making it easy to go down the street and buy one.
The gun manufacturers are not being sued for
Just like saying tobacco companies are being sued for the stupid choices the smokers make is BS. If tobacco wouldn't predatorily market to children and teens, pump extra nicotine in and deny it and play all sorts of other tricks and just sell straight tobacco they would have no problems. And if the gun makers just made guns and let them be used for what they would instead of trying to get them to criminals in order to sell more, they would have no problems.
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Moral of the story: provided you have nothing to lose, you can turn corporate bully techniques against them. For a year or two, anyway - only lawyers remember it now.
With the one word standing out in memory, McLibel, this sounds a lot worse on the McDonalds side of things than it actually was, given the rest of the story. If more than the lawyers remembered the details it wouldn't sound as bad for them as it does with just that word.
I'll probably remember the word McLibel for the rest of my life (now that you've mentioned it here) but forget what it means, just thinking that it sounds bad and probably involves McDonald's.
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That way you get your undocumented modifications already included!!
Of course financial folk would go for this--that way you don't have to pay for your people to make the undocumented changes. Never mind the cost of the OS.
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They call it a copy/right/, but in the U.S. at least provisions for copyright (and patent) protection are granted to congress by the constitution in order "to promote the progress of science and useful arts," which pretty much means you have an obligation to continue using your exclusive right to progress or you should lose it. Just like if you fail to enforce your copyright or especially your trademark you could lose the right to enforce it.
/are/ some out there) as I am to use Word 2.0 or WP 3.0 anyways--except that I already own multiple legits of WP 3 so that copying isn't an issue--so how can they argue that losing copyright on their abandonware will undercut sales of their advancing stuff?
Now sure, they say that not being able to copy Word 2.0 forces us to buy word2k but there are plenty of other alternatives. Like WordPerfect, does MS get a copyright on them all of a sudden because they might keep their software from advancing? I'm as likely to use a free word processor (and if you doubt me, there
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DNA based computers might be much more sensitive to the effects of radiation, or other mutagenic factors. I can just see the label on the computer, " Caution, the hacker general has determined that smoking causes crashes ".
/no/ way this could happen. As one other person who responded to you pointed out, who ironically had score 1 even tho' he raised better (more insightful?) points than yours, viruses can't even cross-infect from one /species/ to another. However, the danger of viruses spreading from computer to computer of this design would be heightened because they would operate on the molecular level rather than the code level. Of course because the computing components are just structures and not cells with any way of replicating the virus would rely on the code level for replication but could infect on the molecular level. Yeah, something like that; wait till the stuff actually comes out, then I'll design one, work this stuff out. For educational purposes only, of course.
Hmm, I don't know but I'm pretty sure this is only a problem during self-replication of DNA. People grow new cells a lot (and that's why we're so mutation/carcinogen prone) but your computer shouldn't be making any new DNA structures; any that are going to exist are going to be made at the factory, which is the only place they need to really worry about radiation/carcinogens/etc.
I would be concerned about the possibility of your computer infecting you with a biologically active virus....
There is
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How many score 5s have you actually gotten?
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Okay, I've got an idea, a sort of hybrid thing of what you've been talking about.
People are saying this is an impractical idea for a number of reasons, such as it's a pain to reboot, what platforms to support etc. But since we're talking about putting a boot sector on a CD, we've got a new option: Put a bootable, minimal games-oriented linux kernel on the CD, along with the game and drivers/libs needed to play it. Now, linux users who want to use the game can just put it in after boot and install the game on their HD. Non-linux (or linux who don't mind rebooting) users with a standard spec pc could just put in the CD and reboot. If they use windows they should be used to it.
This allows games to be developed for linux (or any other pc os) and have the audience of windows (or any other pc os) users. Most exclusive windows users I know don't run any other tasks concurrently with playing their "cool games" (i.e. stuff other than mah-jong/solitaire/minesweeper that you might do while downloading or chatting) aside from the regular background stuff that starts up with windows. Nor would they mind a reboot for a particularly cool game. And when Quake 4 shows stunningly better performance than Unreal 2 Tournament after the former is released like this and the latter as a standard windows game, they will definitely prefer the higher performance.
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There's something called small-claims court. That's where you take a $10+court costs suit. It's impossible for that type of suit to "hog time" from a malpractice suit.
Joe Blow the average computer user doesn't need to be able to get past IP spoofing and rerouting. Are you insinuating that there are no computer-savvy people in the entire state of Colorado? There are enough people there that are knowledgeable enough to trace spam back to the U.S., dedicated enough to stop it, and who get spam that sooner or later one of them will be hit by something originating from Colorado. All it takes is a couple suits, and really, how expensive are a couple small claims suits? Remember this is not the same court in which doctors are sued for malpractice (or OJs for wrongful death, whatever). Then all spam from that state could shut down.
Furthermore, IANAL but you could probably sue somebody from any state for spamming you in Colorado if you tracked them to the U.S. Not sure on this though.
BTW, don't most businesses identify themselves in their spam, because it is after all for advertisement purposes, no? So wouldn't you know where they were no matter how re-routed and spoofed they were?
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It's time to spell Katz right in your subject line or else shut up about "Hemos what'll it be" when it's Katz's IP at issue.
I believe in people being intelligent too but there's a difference just repeating that mantra and actually doing something to be intelligent.
So AC, what'll it be?
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Opera is obviously manufactued by the NSA. Who else but the U.S. government would charge for what others consider to be free?
Well, most of us would figure it'd be free to not put a company's software on your machines but evidently microsoft thinks there should be a charge for that too.
The U.S. government isn't allowed to charge for software anyway, to my knowledge anything authored by a government program they have to release to the public or keep to themselves. (I read something like that in the license of some government produced software. we're not allowed to charge each other for it either tho')
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Exactly. I know this place which makes fake IDs identical to real ones complete with the holograms except for one minor detail, and they are a registered business. That is their sole source of revenue and it's legal because a) it doesn't say "Driver's License" in the same place a real one says "Driver's License" and b) they are required to come with a sticker saying something about how it's just a novelty for entertainment only. Or some crap. Yeah, right. They know people are going to peel those off and cover up the place where the words "Driver's License" should be and use them illegally, but that's not their fault. It's your problem if you do that, you're the one breaking the law if you peel the sticker and pretend to be 21, not them.
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Napster wasn't shut down because it did anything illegal, it was shut down because in fervantly protection free speech, it failed to provide a reasonable system through which someone could request the removal of material that was harmful to them.
/easiest/ protocol to deal with individual users on who were acting up. So you see any of these four major protocols is worse than napster. Napster was shut down because it's /primary purpose/ was exchange of mp3's, a majority of which were copyrighted, a majority of those by RIAA clients.
Sorry, that just isn't true. If it were, then email, irc, usenet and the web would all have to be shut down. To go to your example, I could post bombmaking instructions to any of them without being permanently removed. I could be using an anonymous remailer for three of them and for irc, they could ban my IP from the server but I would probably be at the library and could just go to one of the other myriad libraries in the area. Or I could take advantage of the fact that my ISP uses dynamic IPs and use a diff. username each time, but then I risk getting reported and tracked so I would prob. do the library thing. Napster was actually the
BTW photos can't be put up on Napster. have you ever even used the fscking service on which you are commenting? You can put mp3's in your directory for d/l and there are chat channels where you can type stuff. That's it. IRC is 100x more dangerous. Also if you didn't notice large numbers of ppl w/ mettalica songs were systematically removed from the system at one point. How hard would it be to do that to people doling out credit card numbers, as well as logging their IP to report to their provider? You can't hide behind a wall of anonymity with napster, at least not without being seriously being traceable, the way you can with other protocols. So then the law tracks them down and prosecutes them. Whereas we know of people distributing credit card numbers elsewhere online who haven't been caught.
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
Most people I know don't give a shit about piracy. They install illegit copies of software off discs they borrowed from friends and only buy things that require a CD to run (if they're not clever enough to crack) or if nobody they know has it. We're not just talking kids here, we're talking people in their forties even and up I know who do this. That's the majority of people I know. Sure, most of them pay lip-service to the whole anti-piracy idea but just do it anyway. (just like they all pay lip-service to speed limits but are almost always 10 over) Now if an entire protocol were squashed which has myriad legit uses (i.e. searching gnutella for hack103.zip, a free program, is much easier than searching the web) in the name of stopping an illegal activity most of us do anyway, there would be considerable outrage. It would be like illegalizing the web to stop porn, or outlawing usenet to stop hate groups, or outlawing SMTP/POP to prevent conspiracies and bombing plots and such via email. After all if they're going to argue that gnutella is intended to flout copyright then the web must have been intended for porn, usenet must have been intended for spewing hate messages and email must have been intended for secretly planning violent activity by that same logic, right?
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
Triple digit!? /3/ in the four or five months I've been on. And I've posted some pretty profound stuff too.
Gosh, I still haven't gotten past
Oh well, at least I got moderator access twice in the last two weeks. ( but the first time I didn't use it and let the 3 days run out, 'cus I was too busy posting in all the good discussions )
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
I wonder what Beowulf would think of all this.
Prob'ly just get upset and go kill a few more monsters to unwind.
Perhaps a Grendel of Grendels?
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
So that makes about 204 KW just for the computers (when working at full speed only, OK)!
Compaq: "two 350W ATX power supplies for the whole tree should do it."
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
Can you imagine... a beowulf cluster of these?
/my/ supercomputer.
hrmmmmm...
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't trust Compaq building
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
Simmah down now!! Jesus fucking christ!!
No, it's not stealing. If I take a recording from an artist, that's stealing. If I re-record an artist's work off of a recording I bought from them, that's no more stealing than repeating the spoken word of a famous person to a friend. They're an artist, right? They worked out those words, and they gotta make a living! What fucking right do I have to steal!! For that matter, what fucking right do I have to even hear the words spoken? That's right, It's my goddamn responsibility to make sure I've paid before I hear a "name" celebrity speak because "artists have a right to control the use of their work".
I'm sorry, but once it's out there, it's out there. If you let loose with something you can't control it, except with shrink-wrap contracts. Don't like it? Don't publish your work. Most recognized "great" artists from another genre, the one most associated w/ the term "artist", don't. You ever think maybe if musicians didn't ever duplicate recordings the really good ones could sell their unduplicated masters for a mint? Then they don't have to worry who makes what, it isn't their problem. Or get them under contract, easier to control just one person. Like you see prints made and sold of paintings but if it's somebody real famous they're pretty much all posthumous. Same thing.
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
If you like the sound of say, a rabid cat howling on a fence late at night, you'll love her stuff.
Are you kidding? I made a bootleg recording of the neighborhood rabid cat posse howling in the alley outside my window and play it every night to go to sleep! (yes, it's now considered bootleg. The lead howler somehow got signed to a big 5 label, hired a lawyer, claimed that it was a live performance and took me to court in order to confiscate my recording)
(then I met with the cat and his lawyer and pointed out that cats couldn't enter into legally binding contracts or own property, intellectual or otherwise, so the label could claim ownership of the cats' material if they figured this out; I proceeded to hold this over his head until he handed (pawed?) my tape back)
End of story
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
(anymore) but most of the artists I hear on "alternative" radio are signed to major labels and I can't tell which ones aren't?
/quite/ a while and when we was it was almost always late at night. (I don't hear him on radio either ftm) He recently spoke out in favor of Napster, and even, specifically /his/ music being on it on the theory that it sells more CDs. But is volcano records in RIAA? It never says on the CD case but I thought I heard somewhere it was part of universal or warner or something, and they have the usual cut&paste "don't bloody copy this CD" legalese printed on it. So that doesn't help at all, back to square one.
What about wierd al? I like him, he hasn't been on MTV in
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
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It (potentially) only takes a single employee to monitor all people in the nation, provided they are fluent with computers and they aren't monitoring them all simultaneously, only adding files and switching back and forth to whoever is the biggest priority (percieved "threat") at a given time. Most of it is automated, with word and pattern searching you don't need to /read/ the bloody emails 'til you find something importnant. That's the point. Somebody pointed out here that they don't care about you're next week's shopping list. Bull caca!! They could know where you are at any moment, based on past communications and inferences, and how predictible a person you are. They are known to keep track of people who purchase "suspicious" items in case an odd crime comes up to which that can be linked,(like say a building blows up in my town and I just bought two large bags of fertilizer online three months ago;they'll knock down my door first, probably arrest me just on that) and are also known to keep track of people's political views in order to trail essentially the unpopular ones (they call them ones with "criminal associations" but we know that's bull)
Just to make the point, how many pedophiles has the FBI put away in the past couple decades? How many serial killers? And how many political dissidents? They care about all of us, they watch all of us, no that does not take immense resources, and yes we all have something to fear. The bureau is a menace, they are not "The Good Guys" because they are at the point where they are attempting to mandate how we think. In a democracy that is wrong, and the first step to restoring the US from so-called democracy status to democracy status is to remove the FBI menace.
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
What if you're an atheist?
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
Yes, "move all files beginning with 'a' to 'foo'" would be preferable to "move a* foo" because the latter is ambiguous, e.g., is that "move a * foo"? The standard Unix semantics are far too ambiguous when it comes to the command line.
/" and "rm -rf root". Both "/" and "root" are called "root" in nat-lang. Saying "remove all from root" could wipe your entire filesystem, and you couldn't use my above parser trick because "rm -rf /" is perfectly legal and non-redundant and "mv * a foo" isn't. There are many perfectly valid reasons why you might want to wipe the entire mounted volume and it isn't the computer's business assuming what you want to do. So nat-lang is what's hopelessly ambiguous and the command line, in any form, is what's just fine.
Too bad there isn't a mod down for (Stupid) cause I would've been tempted to use it here, but I had to settle for posting instead. "mv a* foo" is not ambiguous. It is not "mv a * foo". "a*" represents a single filename inclusive of all files in pwd starting with "a". The only reason to expand the a* with whitespace would be if you were speaking it which you wouldn't be because the guy asked about typing, plus it only takes a fairly simple AI to figure out stuff like that and put 2 & 2 together. "mv a * foo" makes no sense, therefore we meant "mv a* foo". I could write that sophistication of parser myself. Natural language is what's ambiguous, to give an example from below: Like removing a directory called "root". You could say "remove all from root" which could translate to "rm -rf
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?
The other distros are hopelessly out of date. You can auto-d/l all relevant packages after just installing the base system. Or you could auto d/l all packages into an archive diretory leaving them compressed until such time as you need to install them, selecting the ones you need using the fancy semi-graphical package manager interface. Or you could make an ISO image of the contents of that directory and once you burned a CD you could delete it all.
You can also have it update automatically the day a new version of your favorite package comes out, but you don't care about the convenient features, you prefer the ones that tie you down so never mind.
But yes, they do provide images of the "official" distribution cd. I'm not sure where on which part of which site but I am 100% certain I read in their official documentiation on debian.org under "how do I get debian" that they provide cd images. Vendors also custom mix their own debian cds to sell too from packages but they do have imags they provide.
Also bear in mind there is much more to the world than just you. I have installed more debian systems from floppy than from the CD set that I bought. I can't see how the point of the distro would be not to have to d/l the packages--if it weren't for the distro, there would be no packages to download! Most of the installs I've done there was no CD drive available and so after the ten-floppy base set was installed I let it loose on the modem and the whiz-bang package installer went and got everything else I'd picked off its list while I was away.
Ever get the impression that your life would make a good sitcom?
Ever follow this to its logical conclusion: that your life is a sitcom?